This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/5374.5552 Message Board Post: my grandfather, Charles Holshouser was from Rowan County and married a Maggie Goodman around that time frame.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nesbit Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/7027 Message Board Post: Looking for information on William Charles Nesbit, b. 1877. His father may have been William Oscar Nesbit, b. 1855. Also, his name may have been confused as Charles W Nesbit. If anyone has information, please pass it on. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/1227.6096 Message Board Post: William Oscar Nesbit may have been my g-g-grandfather. I have not been able to find parents for my g-grandfather William Charles Nesbit, b 1877. On FamilySearch.org, I found a Charles W Nesbit, age 2, in the 1880 Census. He had a brother John G., age 5. William Oscar's wife was listed as Ann McCormick. Ann's mother, Elizabeth, lived with them. She was aged 59. The census listed them as living in Brewers, Cabarrus County. Not sure this is correct as I believe my g-grandfather was from Rowan. Hope this might help and please let me know if this information matches what you have found. I am very interested in finding my g-grandfather's parents.

From: Kathryn Weiss <buckeye@thegrid.net> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:13:24 -0800 Subject: [RowanRoots] Early Backcountry Weddings Recently, the list had a discussion of early wedding traditions. My focus here being the period about 1750-1800, I enjoyed the following account of other, & somewhat more boisterous [I prefer exhuberent], wedding traditions. Perhaps some of you will enjoy this as well: "Albion's Seed Four British Folkways in America", David Hackett Fischer, Oxford Univ Press 1989 ISBN 0-19-506905-6 pp. 669-673 "Backcountry Marriage Ways: Border Origins of Bridal Customs" "Marriage customs among the people of the backcountry also derived from border roots. An ancient practice on the British borders was the abduction of brides. In Scotland, Ireland and the English border counties, the old custom had been elaborately regulated through many centuries by ancient folk laws which required payment of 'body price' and 'honor price.' Two types of abduction were recognized: voluntary abduction in which the bride went willingly but without her family's prior consent; and involuntary abduction in which she was taken by force. Both types of abduction were practiced as late as the eighteenth century....." "...But many backcountry marriages included mock abduction rituals that kept the old custom alive an a vestigial way. A wedding in the back-settlements was apt to be a wild affair. On the appointed day, the friends of the groom would set out for the wedding in a single party, mounted and heavily armed. They would stop at cabins along the way to fire a volley and pass around the whiskey bottle, then gallop on to the next. Their progress was playfully opposed by the bride's friends, also heavily armed, who felled trees along the road and created entanglements of grape vines and branches to block the passage of the groomsmen." "'Sometimes an ambuscade was formed by the way side, an undexpected discharge of several guns took place, so as to cover the wedding company with smoke. Let the reader imagine the scene which followed this discharge, the sudden spring of the horses, the shriek of the girls, and the chivalric bustle of their partners to save them from falling. Sometimes, in spite of all that could be done to prevent it, some were thrown to the ground; if a wrist, elbow or ankle happened to be sprained, it was tied with a handkerchief, and little more was thought or said about it.'(6)" "The two parties then came together and staged a contest in chich their champions raced for a beribboned bottle of whiskey. The results were celebrated with another explosive feu de joie. "'Two young men would single out to run for the bottle; the worse the path, the more logs, brush and deep hollow, the better, as obstacles afforded an opportunity for the greatest display of intrepidity and horsemanship. The English fox chase, in point of danger to their riders and their horses, was othing to this race for the bottle. The start was announced by an Indian yell, when logs, bursh, mud holes,hill and glen, were speedily passed by the rival ponies. The bottle was always filled for the occasion so that there was no use for judges; for the first who reached the door was presented with the prize, with which he returned in triumph to the company. On approaching them he announced his victory over his rival by a shrill whoop. At the head of the troop he gave the bottle to the groom and his attendants, and then to each pair in succession, to the rear of the line, giving each a dram, and then putting the bottle in the bosom of his hunting shirt, took his station in the company.'(7)" "Finally, both parties would assemble with invited guests from the neighborhood. these were 'bidden weddings,' which could be attended only by invitation. 'It often happened,' Kercheval remembered, "that some neighbors or relations, not being asked to the wedding, took offence; and the mode of revenge adopted by them on such occasions, was that of cutting off the manes, foretops and tales of the horses of the wedding company.'" "When all were assembled, the bride would be brought into the room by the best man -- not, significantly, by her father. The bride and groom put their right hands behind their backs, and their gloves were ceremonially removed by the best man and the bridesmaid, who took care to do so at exactly the same moment." "After the ceremony, there were more volleys, much whooping and an abundance of kissing, drinking and high hilarity. Then a dinner and dance would take place, with everyone joining in reels, sets and jigs while a fiddler scraped frantically in the corner. Before the wedding dinner, another mock-abduction was stated indoors; the bride was stolen by one party and 'recovered' by the other. During the dinner itself the party played still another abduction-game called stealing the shoe. While dinner went on, the young people crawled about beneath the table and some of the groomsmen tried to steal the bride's shoe while others sought to stop them. Four of the most beautiful girls and the most handsome men were appointed 'waiters' and had the honor of protecting her while at the same time they served the dinner. Their badge of office was an exquisitely embroidered white apron, on which the bride and her family had labored for many weeks before the wedding. If the bride lost her shoe, she could not dance until it was recovered by her champions in mock combat." "As the sun set upon this turbulent scene, the couple retired to their chamber, while hordes of well-wishers crowded round the bed and offered ribald advice. Yet another contest was staged at the foot of the marriage bed. After the couple was placed beneath the covers, the bridesmaids took turns throwing a rolled tocking over their shoulders at the bride. Then the groomsmen did the same, aiming at the groom. The first to his the mark was thought to be the next to marry. These games continued well into the night. When the wedding party finally left the chamber, a 'calithumpian serenade' took place outside -- the bells and whistles punctuated by uninhibited gunplay that sometimes caused a back-country wedding to be followed by a funeral. As morning approached, a bottle of Black Betty was sent to revive the bride and groom and the merriment continued, sometimes for several days" (6), (7) Kercheval, "A History of the Valley of Virginia" 58, 266-69 ______________________________

hi Betty,or anyone wanting to find places like you have..when you go to this site just type the name in feature name box the clik the state name box to pick a state. on right put county name.now go down clik search..when the result screen up.scroll down. now go on down and look for the lined about photos & word TERRASERVER..clik it and get aerial photos from satellites.now when it loads you can zoom in go in different directions. TERRASERVER lets you go everywhere on the earth. to go to other areas go to bottom of page.. type a place name..next screen has a list,clik it and it loads.a grrreat place!.find your house!.lots fun.Ray Moore. usgs topo mapping.... http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:52:27 +0000, "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> said: > Is Church Creek another name for one of the forks of Crane Creek? It it > clearly north of Dutch 2nd Creek > > I have a few drawings/maps of property in Rowan Co. in the vicinity of > Salisbury and south of Salisbury. I can see that Crane Creek has a North > Fork (runs near and past Salisbury to the south-west), a middle which > seems to be labeled just Crane Creek and then a South Fork, which also > heads south-west. Below that is Dutch Second Creek. All of these seem > to originate from the Yadkin River. > > Another drawing/map shows a Church Creek, apparently in the middle of all > of the above. Is Church Creek another name for one of the forks of Crane > Creek? It it clearly north of Dutch 2nd Creek, but I don't know how far > north since these drawings are not to scale probably and don't show any > miles. > > Betty Pace > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --BOOK by Glenna WHITEAKER WILDING formally of HARLAN,KY "TALES of a RIDGERUNNER.short stories of her dad CURREN http://www.angelfire.com/in3/louisrr/book.htm -- http://fastmail.fm - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place

Is Church Creek another name for one of the forks of Crane Creek? It it clearly north of Dutch 2nd Creek I have a few drawings/maps of property in Rowan Co. in the vicinity of Salisbury and south of Salisbury. I can see that Crane Creek has a North Fork (runs near and past Salisbury to the south-west), a middle which seems to be labeled just Crane Creek and then a South Fork, which also heads south-west. Below that is Dutch Second Creek. All of these seem to originate from the Yadkin River. Another drawing/map shows a Church Creek, apparently in the middle of all of the above. Is Church Creek another name for one of the forks of Crane Creek? It it clearly north of Dutch 2nd Creek, but I don't know how far north since these drawings are not to scale probably and don't show any miles. Betty Pace

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pethel, Pahel, Pehel, Petchel, Bastian, Shoaf, Speck, Pence, Overcash, Walter,Cook,Dancy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7026 Message Board Post: I am searching for information on the Pethel (Pahel, Pehel, Petchel, Pethell) Family from Rowan Co., NC mainly residing in the Atwell and Mt. Ulla area. The spelling of the name changed often, but I think it originally was Pahel. Some offsprings started changing the spelling within the families. I have found sons of one man with the name spelled three different ways. My family started with Andrew Pahel;b.abt.1740. His son Andrew;b.abt. 1770 and died around 1841. Anyone out there doing research on this family, please contact me or post message here.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brooks, Burnett(e), Cate, Choate, Doherty, Dopp, Ezell, Gillenwater, Goforth, Hinckley, Job(e),Leath, Love, Morris, Ostrander, Vincent, Wolf(e) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/5843.6375.6379.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Melanie, I'd be happy to share if I had more information about Jincy Wolfe, but what little I have is already posted. Pat Jones of Hardin County, TN, has done more research on the Wolfe family and may be able to help you. Thanks for the information you sent. Dianne Kenna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/1806.2186.2189.3413.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I hope this email finds you in great health! I would be most interested in purchasing a copy of your floppy disk for my records. I descend from the daughter of Robert and Leah Barclay, Rachel. LNash

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7025 Message Board Post: Would like to know the location of Whitaker Methodist Episcopal Cemetery. I don't think there is a church of this name anymore. I understand that the cemetery is overgrown. But was hoping someone could give me the directions. Thanks in advance.

Betty: I have a cousin named "Mary Van," with Van being her middle name. Perhaps that's what happened. Alice

Looking for any information on Davis' from Rowan County. My Jessie Davis born NC and parents born NC. Jessie is on the 1870 Lawrence Co AL census and apparently many Davis' in this part of Alabama mention being from Rowan County NC. I don't know his parents name, but hoping someone could help. Sam Austin austin64@bellsouth.net

Does anyone have a book that gives the Rowan Co. deed transfers from 1851? My source doesn't go that far. I am wondering if the below entry is an error in transcription or if it really reads this way. 07 May 1851, Book 40, Page 217, E. D. Austin, administrator of the estate of Joseph Poole, deceased, to Mary VanPoole, 300 acres joining the lands of Nathan Boger, H. L. Roberts and Misenheimer. (I think this VanPoole name should probably be Pool) Does this entry really say Mary VanPool, widow of Joseph Poole? Betty Pace

Perhaps useful to some. Betty Pace From: Kathryn Weiss <buckeye@thegrid.net> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:14:34 -0800 Subject: [RowanRoots] good Websites MEDITERRANEAN PASSES, LETTERS OF MARQUE, AND LIST OF SHIP'S REGISTERS, 1761-1776: PA Archives, http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/ships/pass2-16.txt INDIAN TRADERS: 1743 - 1775: PA Archives http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/xmisc/pass2-15.txt ______________________________

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Hi.....where did you find the Wilkes Road assessments ? > Always looking for new leads on Jacob Blair who appears on the 1800 Rowan Co. census, and in 1805 on the Wilkes Road assessments and 1810 census, and then settling finally by 1811 in Russell Co. VA. We don't know if Jacob ties to the rest of the Blair clan there or not, but there is an additional male in the household, that our group has never been to account for. Thanks, John Blair > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/7024 Message Board Post: Hi Deborah, Can your Thomas or Benjamin ,have any sons or grandsons born in Vinginia in 1820, name Robert Lee Pettit.Please e-mail me if you have any info. on Robert or on the familys of Thomas or Benjamin. Could sure uses your help. Thanks a lot Ruby e-mail is rnsutton1@earthlinks.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/7023 Message Board Post: Hi Deborah,

Always looking for new leads on Jacob Blair who appears on the 1800 Rowan Co. census, and in 1805 on the Wilkes Road assessments and 1810 census, and then settling finally by 1811 in Russell Co. VA. We don't know if Jacob ties to the rest of the Blair clan there or not, but there is an additional male in the household, that our group has never been to account for. Thanks, John Blair

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/1470.6357.1 Message Board Post: Hi Tammy, just a couple of notes here, the Edward Burleson who married Matilda McKissick, died in Buncombe Co., 1841 (his will is public record) and is not the same Edward Burleson of San Marcos, Texas fame. That was a different Edward Burleson altogether. Also, Matilda's father was indisputably Daniel McKissick, but not the same Capt. Daniel McKissick that was Jane Wilson's husband. There were several Daniel McKissicks, and it has been the subject of quite a bit of research. It is now clear that Captain Daniel McKissick is not the father of Matilda. I have quite a bit of the family's line here: www.michaelburlison.com/genealogy.htm