If you need definitions of old medical terms, see the below web sites. >From another mailing list in the UK. Betty Pace To see the lists of the medical terms that you might uncover in old records follow these links: http://www.demon.co.uk/sfs/diseases.htm http://pcm.pcmedia.com.au/tags/docs/medical.html http://www.neonatology.org/classics/old.terms.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/2874.3799.3828.1.2 Message Board Post: Amazig my grandmother was Cora Beaman but that's not my purpose in writing this time. I received an e- amil that you are searching for Lillian Goldrup. If this is correct please cotact me. c_cusack_smith@hotmail.com

I read an article on Mamie McCubbins several years ago. She was married and had one daughter. I'm sorry I can't remember the source of the article. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> To: <NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [NCRowan] Ms. Mamie McCubbins > No, I am not related. Her files are a big genealogy help, despite some > errors.I didn't think Ms. Mamie ever married,but perhaps I am wrong. I > know her parents lived in Salisbury and perhaps she had siblings. Maybe > someone else on the list has more information. > Betty > From: "TN MAN" <tippytnn@fastmail.fm> > To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:42:44 -0600 > Subject: Re: [NCRowan] McCubbins Files - > HI Betty,is that McCUBBINS your relative? > this MbCUBBINS daughter is my great great > grandmother..... > - --------------------------------------------- > parents of Sarah/Sally Carr to be > John M. Carr III & Nancy Rogers - grand > daughter of John Carr Jr. & > Dorcas/Darcus McCubbins - great grand daughter > of John Carr Sr. & Louvisa > Isbell (Isbell is maiden name) - and great > great grand daughter of Robert > Carr & Mary Williams. > - --------------------------------------------- > they were in CLAIBORNE Counrt,TN.thanks Ray Moore. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

No, I am not related. Her files are a big genealogy help, despite some errors.I didn't think Ms. Mamie ever married,but perhaps I am wrong. I know her parents lived in Salisbury and perhaps she had siblings. Maybe someone else on the list has more information. Betty From: "TN MAN" <tippytnn@fastmail.fm> To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:42:44 -0600 Subject: Re: [NCRowan] McCubbins Files - HI Betty,is that McCUBBINS your relative? this MbCUBBINS daughter is my great great grandmother..... - --------------------------------------------- parents of Sarah/Sally Carr to be John M. Carr III & Nancy Rogers - grand daughter of John Carr Jr. & Dorcas/Darcus McCubbins - great grand daughter of John Carr Sr. & Louvisa Isbell (Isbell is maiden name) - and great great grand daughter of Robert Carr & Mary Williams. - --------------------------------------------- they were in CLAIBORNE Counrt,TN.thanks Ray Moore.

Hi Betty -- I am not real sure about this, but I think she was married to a former district clerk of Rowan. I can't think of his first name, but you will see she used some stationary that has his name. Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty A. Pace Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 5:21 PM To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRowan] Ms. Mamie McCubbins No, I am not related. Her files are a big genealogy help, despite some errors.I didn't think Ms. Mamie ever married,but perhaps I am wrong. I know her parents lived in Salisbury and perhaps she had siblings. Maybe someone else on the list has more information. Betty From: "TN MAN" <tippytnn@fastmail.fm> To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:42:44 -0600 Subject: Re: [NCRowan] McCubbins Files - HI Betty,is that McCUBBINS your relative? this MbCUBBINS daughter is my great great grandmother..... - --------------------------------------------- parents of Sarah/Sally Carr to be John M. Carr III & Nancy Rogers - grand daughter of John Carr Jr. & Dorcas/Darcus McCubbins - great grand daughter of John Carr Sr. & Louvisa Isbell (Isbell is maiden name) - and great great grand daughter of Robert Carr & Mary Williams. - --------------------------------------------- they were in CLAIBORNE Counrt,TN.thanks Ray Moore. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/5374.5554 Message Board Post: Charles M. Holshouser was the son of Allen Holshouser and Lydia Goodman. I did not find a marriage for the Mary Rose Harrison to a Holshouser in Rowan County. Any more info? Pat Beck

What is the book "Albion's Seed" about.. I am not familiar with the title. Julie Saltz -----Original Message----- From: Betty A. Pace [mailto:bapace2@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:26 AM To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRowan] Books like Albion's Seed From: Kathryn Weiss <buckeye@thegrid.net> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:33:58 -0800 Subject: [RowanRoots] Good Books I got my copy of Albion's Seed at Barnes & Noble a couple of years ago for $26. At 946 information-filled pages, I thought it was a bargain. It might still be in print. There is at least one companion volume entitled American Plantations. It is great addition to my library, particularly since I have ancestors in all but the most northern colonies. I highly recommend it. Anyone else have good books to recommend? Kathryn ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

From: Kathryn Weiss <buckeye@thegrid.net> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:33:58 -0800 Subject: [RowanRoots] Good Books I got my copy of Albion's Seed at Barnes & Noble a couple of years ago for $26. At 946 information-filled pages, I thought it was a bargain. It might still be in print. There is at least one companion volume entitled American Plantations. It is great addition to my library, particularly since I have ancestors in all but the most northern colonies. I highly recommend it. Anyone else have good books to recommend? Kathryn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7026.1 Message Board Post: Hi Brady, I saw the Overcash surname registered for you. Was your Overcash family also in Rowan Co., NC? I saw an old posting on a message board about a Margaret Overcash, who was born in Rowan Co., NC and moved to Tx. (Dallas area I think) ca. 1878/79. I am searching for info on my GG. grandfather, David F. Webb, b. 1850 in Rowan Co., NC. He is not listed in the 1880 cencus with his family in Rowan Co.,, but by 1881 he is in Gonzales Co., Tx. where he married. I have noticed there were Overcash familiesin the area where he lived in Rowan Co.; just wondering if there was a connection. (My David Webb had a sister named Margaret who was born in 1848. I can't find her after 1860. I have wondered if she might have married an Overcash, and this was a daughter who came to Tx.) Would appreciate any info you have! Thanks so much! Robin

Here is something that may be valuable for your research - The OldenTimes.com Historic Newspapers Online - Always FREE! I am a subscriber. Virginia Morris Brown http://theoldentimes.com/updates11172002.html http://theoldentimes.com/index.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Goolsby and Cole Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7029 Message Board Post: Somewhere in Rowen County NC My grgrgrgrgrgrgrandfather Drury Goolsby married Ann Bird Cole around 1765+/-. I would like to find his and/or her parents names, dob, and when they came to America and from where. Any info would be appreciated. thanks

HI Betty,is that McCUBBINS your relative? this MbCUBBINS daughter is my great great grandmother..... ----------------------------------------------- parents of Sarah/Sally Carr to be John M. Carr III & Nancy Rogers - grand daughter of John Carr Jr. & Dorcas/Darcus McCubbins - great grand daughter of John Carr Sr. & Louvisa Isbell (Isbell is maiden name) - and great great grand daughter of Robert Carr & Mary Williams. ----------------------------------------------- they were in CLAIBORNE Counrt,TN.thanks Ray Moore. On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:01:54 +0000, "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> said: > While we owe a great debt to Ms. Mamie McCubbins for her extensive > genealogy work (filmed by the LDS), I thought I would caution you against > accepting everything in her records as factual and complete. I have > found two errors in my own Pool family. > > 1) She said my Clayton Poole's wife was Susan Bogle, buried beside him. > However, the lady buried beside him was in fact Susan Isabella Julian. > These are my great grandparents and I have obits. > > 2) She didn't include all of the children in the will of my John Pool > (d.1832). When I got a copy of the will itself, I noticed she had left > out a few children. > > Use her records, but double-check the entries. > > Betty Pace > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --BOOK by Glenna WHITEAKER WILDING formally of HARLAN,KY "TALES of a RIDGERUNNER.short stories of her dad CURREN http://www.angelfire.com/in3/louisrr/book.htm -- http://fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web

Forwarded for further information. Probably available thru inter-library loan. Betty Pace From: "Linda Brunner" <lbrunner@netcarrier.com> To: NCGUILFO-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:45:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [NCGuilford] Albion's Seed For anyone interested in where various settlers came from in Britain to settle in the Colonies, the book called "Albion's Seed" is still in print and available in stores such as Borders and Barnes and Noble. It covers much more than just backcountry settlers in America. I don't have my copy handy, but I seem to remember that different groups in England settled in different parts of the Colonies. It's not only interesting history, it can give you clues to where early ancestors may have migrated from. For example, a lot of the English who came to Chester and Bucks County in the late 1600s came from Cheshire, whose capital is Chester, hence the name of Chester County in Pennsylvania. A number of those English settlers or their families later traveled down the great wagon road to Orange and Guilford Counties. It's a huge book, but it's one of my favorites, loaded with a lot of information and footnotes. It's a history book, rather than a genealogy book per se, but it really helped me understand a lot of what was happening early in our history and how different life was in those early days, because of where the settlers came from and who owned the colonies where they settled. It's a must read for history buffs and genealogists tracking early lines. Linda <another endorsement> Hello List, I had to email Linda and tell her how much I love my copy of Albion's Seed, and she suggested I tell you all. The book is amazing. It is more than 2 " thick (& I have the paperback copy) The author is David Hackeet Fischer and the subtitle is 'Four British Folkways in America.' I paid $21.95 for my copy at a genealogy seminar took it home and stayed up, most of the night reading a tiny part of it. (it is indexed) Maps, Statistics, Actuary tables, pedigrees, you name it... As I told Linda, It's not just history it's how they lived and why they did what they did... (no I don't get a cut of the profits <g>) I just think it is a wonderful book for people who are SERIOUS about their genealogy and history. Don't mean to offend anyone but, if you are just looking for names and dates, then it isn't the book for you. Sue

While we owe a great debt to Ms. Mamie McCubbins for her extensive genealogy work (filmed by the LDS), I thought I would caution you against accepting everything in her records as factual and complete. I have found two errors in my own Pool family. 1) She said my Clayton Poole's wife was Susan Bogle, buried beside him. However, the lady buried beside him was in fact Susan Isabella Julian. These are my great grandparents and I have obits. 2) She didn't include all of the children in the will of my John Pool (d.1832). When I got a copy of the will itself, I noticed she had left out a few children. Use her records, but double-check the entries. Betty Pace

Betty, Thank you for this wonderful site. Virginia Morris Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> To: <NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: [NCRowan] Albion's Seed > I had lost track of this web site (Albions Seed) and had forgotten how > interesting it is. > Betty Pace > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joyce Harris <joy_harr@swbell.net> > To: "'Betty A. Pace'" <bapace2@juno.com> > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:16:42 -0600 > Subject: RE: [PACE-L] Early Backcountry Weddings > > FYI, the following narrative that you posted from Rowan Roots as well as > other aspects of back county culture can be found on this interesting > web site: > http://xroads.virginia.edu/~UG97/albion/albion3.html > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/5374.5553 Message Board Post: iF YOUWILL GIVE ME SOME TIME, i WILL CHECK THIS OUT. Pat Beck, Holshouser descendent

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DARR Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/7028 Message Board Post: I'm looking for help in locating deeds of John Henry DARR(TARR, DERR). According to his will he is leaving to his wife :"...3 lots of land adjoining the same one of the deeds made to me in John Lopp Sen. name another In the name of Joseph Parks, another In the name of Thomas Coyl..." He also left property to his son "... tract of land containing one hundred and fifty acres the deed made to me by Japtha Durham, and also another tract of fifty acres the deed made to me by Joseph Haden & Thomas Durham in all two hundred acres..." I would appreciate any and all help. Thank you

I recognize a few of these names, including my ancestors Peter FRY (FREY) and Martin WALK, and the ELLROD and DOUTHIT families. These were all in what is now north-central to north-western Davidson county, near the Forsyth County line. TASH (TESCH) is also a Davidson Co. German name, also HANES (Phillip HAYNS) >BITLE, Jery >BOLINGBOUGH, Martin >COX, Jonah >DAVIS, John Sr. >DAVIS, Samuel >DOUTHET, Isaac >ELLROD, Jerema >FINE, John >FRY, Christian >FRY, George >FRY, Peter Sr. >FULTS, Jacob >FULTS, John >GARRETT, John >HARTMAN, James >HAYNS, Phillip >HOLLENSWORTH, James >HOPE, George >LEATHERMAN, Christian >LEATHERMAN, Jonah >MACKLEY, John >MICHAEL, Henry >POOL, Moses >POOLE, John >POOLE, William >SHOUGH, Adam >SHOUGH, Adam Jr. >SHOUGH, John >SHULTZ, Mark >SIMMERMAN, John >SLODLE, David >TASH, Adam >WALK, Martin >WARNER,Will >WEAVER, Jacob >WEST, Jacob >WILLIAMS, Vincent >WOOD, James > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://www.fmoran.com/

I had lost track of this web site (Albions Seed) and had forgotten how interesting it is. Betty Pace --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joyce Harris <joy_harr@swbell.net> To: "'Betty A. Pace'" <bapace2@juno.com> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:16:42 -0600 Subject: RE: [PACE-L] Early Backcountry Weddings FYI, the following narrative that you posted from Rowan Roots as well as other aspects of back county culture can be found on this interesting web site: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~UG97/albion/albion3.html

Does anyoen know where in Rowan Co. NC this Capt. Eakle/Eagle had the district which includes these Pool and Poole names? I am trying to identify the Pool/Pooles. Perhaps this district is now in another modern-day NC county. Betty Pace LOYALISTS (TORIES) OF ROWAN CO., NC - 1778 The following list of Loyalists in Rowan Co. NC in 1778 was found in the LDS film of the papers of Mamie McCubbins--LDS film 0019852 (families EAGLE to EPTING). THE SPELLINGS ARE THOSE IN THE TYPED PAPER ON THE FILM--the names on the film were not alphabetized. The 38 Nonjurors (Tories) reported in Capt. Eakles [Eagle's] District were in 1778: BITLE, Jery BOLINGBOUGH, Martin COX, Jonah DAVIS, John Sr. DAVIS, Samuel DOUTHET, Isaac ELLROD, Jerema FINE, John FRY, Christian FRY, George FRY, Peter Sr. FULTS, Jacob FULTS, John GARRETT, John HARTMAN, James HAYNS, Phillip HOLLENSWORTH, James HOPE, George LEATHERMAN, Christian LEATHERMAN, Jonah MACKLEY, John MICHAEL, Henry POOL, Moses POOLE, John POOLE, William SHOUGH, Adam SHOUGH, Adam Jr. SHOUGH, John SHULTZ, Mark SIMMERMAN, John SLODLE, David TASH, Adam WALK, Martin WARNER,Will WEAVER, Jacob WEST, Jacob WILLIAMS, Vincent WOOD, James