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    1. [NCRowan] Re: Endsley
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Endsley/McBroom Descendants Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/728.4796.5653 Message Board Post: Don, My name is Mary Shaffer Pullin, My paternal Grandmother was Ida Mae Endsley Shaffer, daughter of william Granville and Eliza Frances Spurlock, I am looking for any information you may be able to share with me on the Endsley/McBroom family and thier Descendants. They had a son Alexander my gr. gr. gr. Grandfather I know nothing of his wife or thier children would you have any information on them. I would love to correspond with you. I dont have much to share, but I will share what I have. I will be anxiously awaiting your response. Sincerely Mary Shaffer Pullin

    12/04/2002 01:06:16
    1. [NCRowan] Re: ENDSLEY, MCBROOM
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Endsley/McBroom/Boyd/Keicher Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/728.4797 Message Board Post: Hi, I am a descendant of William Granville Endsley, My grandmother was Ida Mae Endsley Shaffer. I have just started my research on the Endsley family and would be very interested in any information you could share with me on them. I have Alexander L married to Mary Ann Boyd, I know Mary Ann's parents are Jeremiah Boyd and Susannah Keicher, I have some information on the Keicher family, and nothing on the Boyd family, do you know anything on this line. I would also be inteested in the McBroom family. I am also looking for information on Alexander L. Endsley's parents and siblings. I think his father may have also been named Alexander, his mother is unknown to me. I would appreciate any information you could share on any of these people.Please contact me at my Email address. I hope to hear from you soon. sincerely Mary Shaffer Pullin

    12/04/2002 12:58:20
    1. [NCRowan] Smith Cemetery Relocation - on hold
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. Forwarded by Wanda Williams--Notice the headstones transcribed for the Smiths at the end of this long thread. This shows perhaps what hard work can do to save our history. Betty Pace From: Brian Overton <BPOVERTON@DOT.STATE.NC.US> To: ww4411@aol.com Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 14:48:30 -0500 Subject: ROW input Wanda, Thank you for your email from last Friday. I did have a nice Thanksgiving. I have spoken with ROW about the recent legal notice concerning the Smith Cemetery. They said that currently they have put the cemetery relocation on hold with the intention of avoidance. You may want to pass this information on to others, as appropriate. Thank you, -Brian -- Brian Overton Archaeologist North Carolina Department of Transportation (919) 733-7844 ext 272 Dear Ms. Williams: Good news. I checked with my staff who in turn checked with DOT. Plans are being made to save your family cemetery. Please see the exchange of emails below. Thanks for bringing this matter to my attention. Dr. Jeffrey J. Crow, Deputy Secretary Office of Archives and History 4610 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4610 (919) 733-7305 *This message may not represent the policy of the Department of Cultural Resources. This email may be subject to North Carolina public records laws and could be disclosed to third parties. -----Original Message----- From: Renee Gledhill-Earley [mailto:renee.gledhill-earley@ncmail.net] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:52 PM To: Mary Pope Furr Cc: Sarah McBride; Jeff Crow; David Brook Subject: Re: [Fwd: FW: Please help me save my Schmidt/Smith Family Cemetery] Mary Pope: Thanks for the quick checking and good news. I won't be able to make it, but by cc I'm asking Sarah to go with you to check on the cemetery. Also, I've copied Jeff Crow and David so they'll know that NCDOT and SHPO/OSA are on this together. Renee Mary Pope Furr wrote: Archaeology was made aware of the cemetery last year, and when they spoke with construction they were told it would be avoided. Obviously this did not work itself out as the current plans show a cut through the cemetery and the graves relocated. Archaeology has already consulted with construction and ROW again and they are meeting to look at avoidance alternatives to prevent taking these graves. The Historic Architecture section has never been made aware of the cemetery and after speaking with the Archaeology section, I believe that it would be in our best interest to visit the site this coming Friday with members of the Archaeology staff and hopefully staff from OSA and HPO. There we can get a better idea about the eligibility of the site and it's boundaries. If it is eligible, then we'll have more of a plan for avoidance. Would you like to come with us on Friday? I know that Archaeology is also asking OSA to attend. Renee Gledhill-Earley wrote: Mary Pope: Will you please look into this. I see that Brian Overton has been in touch with the lady about it. So, I'll also check with him. With graves that old and connections, is there any possibility that it was looked at for something other than archaeology? Thanks, Renee Subject: FW: Please help me save my Schmidt/Smith Family Cemetery Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:38:40 -0500 From: Jeff Crow <JCrow@dcrmail.dcr.state.nc.us> To: David Brook <david.brook@ncmail.net>, "Steve Claggett (E-mail)" <steve.claggett@ncmail.net>, "Renee Gledhill-Earley (E-mail)" <renee.gledhill-earley@ncmail.net>What's the story on this cemetery? Is it being moved? What are the alternatives?Obviously, we are being subjected to a letter writing campaign. This is the most substantive one I've seen. Dr. Jeffrey J. Crow, Deputy Secretary Office of Archives and History 4610 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4610 (919) 733-7305 *This message may not represent the policy of the Department of Cultural Resources. This email may be subject to North Carolina public records laws and could be disclosed to third parties. -----Original Message----- From: Ww4411@aol.com [mailto:Ww4411@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 1:03 AM To: jeff.crow@ncmail.net Cc: david.brook@ncmail.net; renee.gledhill-early@ncmail.net Subject: Please help me save my Schmidt/Smith Family Cemetery Dear Mr. Crow: PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS BEFORE YOU READ! When I first saw the construction of I-85 at the Salisbury exit at Innes Street I knew it wouldn't be long until it reached the site of my old family cemetery and knew that it would again be in jeopardy of being disturbed. It has been saved twice from destruction....once when I-85 originally came through in the sixties when my Uncle John Ketchie (owner) gave right-a-way for the interstate with the understanding that the family cemetery would not be disturbed (that's why there is a curb to the left heading north bound from Salisbury in the interstate so not to go through the cemetery) Then after he died and the land was passed to my Aunt Brenda Ketchie Lylerly when Aldi wanted to buy the land....she asked that they not disturb the cemetery and they didn't. It is not abandoned...just very old...the last person I know buried there was in 1831. It's hard to even get to the cemetery....as the road was covered up during the Aldi construction and earth moving...and the no trespassing signs that were posted. So I parked on I-85 and climbed the fence back in April 2002 and sent emails to everyone possible to try and help save the cemetery...A Mr. Brian Overton, an archeologist with the NC D.O.T. responded back and forth with me for several weeks and then called me by telephone and told me that he had good news that the cemetery was not going to be disturbed and wasn't going to be moved....now in an article of the Salisbury Post on November 11, 2002, it stated it will be moved! Click here: Workers will move family cemetery The article was confusing because there are indeed headstones in the cemetery...and they are readable...just small in design. I went to the cemetery in August 2002, and tied fluorescent ribbons all around in the cemetery so if anybody with the D.O.T. happened upon it would plainly see that it was a cemetery. I also have digital pictures of the remaining Tombstones (6) which I can forward to you via email. The other markers were evidently of wood and no longer exist as the cemetery is over 200 years old! There is a 1759 Rowan Militia Patriot - George Michael Schmidt/Smith a Revolutionary Soldier - Jacob G. Smith, (Whig) and a Civil War Soldier - John D. Shenk Smith, (Infantry) all buried in this family cemetery. It has been estimated that there may be as many as 50-60 graves in the cemetery and I have not yet researched the rest. The Smith Cemetery is listed along with cemetery photos in a book, "Obscure Cemeteries of Rowan County," written by Dr. Kenneth Sells, June 1988. which is available in the History Room of the Rowan County Library at Salisbury, NC The original parcel of land was deeded to Peter Schmidt, first ancestor of my family to arrive in America. He was buried in the family cemetery after his death in 1775 along with his wife Barbara. His son, George Michael Schmidt/Smith Born: 1727 Died: Oct. 23, 1814 was one of the first German Settlers in Rowan County, Salisbury, NC He was a patriot who served in the Rowan County Militia of 1759, (same militia as Squire Boone and Daniel Boone), against the hostile Indians of the area protecting the citizens, even before he was naturalized as a US Citizen! (listed on 1759 Militia List in Rowan County Archives.) He was an appointed Justice of the first court ever held in Rowan in June of 1753, (Pg. 16, The Rowan Story, by James S. Brawley) to help lay out the land for the site of the new township and to select the name for it, (Salisbury) He continued as a Justice of the Peace until his death in 1814, serving Rowan County and it's Citizens. His name is on the first list of Rowan County Taxpayers, which was found in the old courthouse walls in 1944 by William D. Kizziah, Register of Deeds ( Pg. 351, The Rowan Story, by James S. Brawley) Certainly George M. Smith was one of Rowan County's "true" founding fathers of civic import. The Schmidt/Smith cemetery should be preserved. It is one of the oldest cemeteries in Rowan County and is indeed a very significant historical resource of early colonial Rowan County and Salisbury, NC. I am very distressed...I know that progress is inevitable but our heritage is being destroyed daily by new construction and a lot of times it can be avoided. The Old County Home Cemetery, which is currently proposed, is a total disgrace! The attempt by the N.C. D.O.T. to locate and notify family members occurred only after the state and county had made its decisions. The Newspaper article was incorrect in stating that I, Wanda T. Williams had been notified! I contacted them when construction first began and was told the Cemetery was not in their plans for right of way or destruction! I have rushed to notify all Schmidt/Smith, Ketchie Descendants of the N.C. D.O.T.'s plans to move our family cemetery which I was lead to believe was safe from demise. The N.C. D.O.T. has completed the four notices in the Salisbury Post conforming to their "legal" obligations. The sad truth is that there are a lot more descendants living out of state than the ones living in Salisbury, N.C. and a lot didn't even see the article in the paper. So my quest has been to let them know and to contact Mr. Eaton's office with the N.C. D.O.T. in opposition to the move. I am sorry to say that at this point in time, my efforts may be futile, but I will not get discouraged...not only due to the soiling of my personal heritage but of George Smith and my other ancestor's historical significance to the Trading Ford area, of Rowan County, and Salisbury, NC! Pleasehelp me stop this desecration. I have been told by local people that the SHPO will just turn a deaf ear. I sincerely hope this is not the case Can you, will you, help me? Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my email and for anything you might possibly do in my quest to save the family's cemetery. Respectfully, Wanda T. Williams gggg-grandaughter of George Michael Schmidt/Smith 269 Johnson Dairy Rd. Mooresville, NC 28115-9780 (704) 664-7595 #1 Headstone My Dear Wife Mary Smith (Bruner) Died Jan. 15, 1814 In The 81st Year of Her Age #2 Headstone In Memory of George Michael Smith (Schmidt) Who Departed This Life October 23rd In The Year Of Our Lord 1814 And In The Eighty Seventh Year Of His Age #3 Headstone In Memory of Rachel Rough (Smith) Wife of Daniel Rough Born In 1799 and Died Dec. 3, 1817 In the 18th Year Of Her Age #4 Headstone In Memory Of Michael H. Smith Son of William and Elizabeth Smith Born In The Year Of Our Lord April 11th 1807 Departed This Life October 9th, 1830 Aged 23 Years Five Months and 28 Days #5 Headstone In Memory of William Smith Departed This Life On The 5th of May 1819 #6 Headstone In Memory of David Smith Son of William and Elizabeth Smith Was Born in The Year of Our Lord April 7, 1798 Departed this Life January 22, 1831 Age 31 Years 9 Months and 15 Days

    12/03/2002 10:17:49
    1. [NCRowan] Re: John W. Crotts
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/5985.1 Message Board Post: My birth father was John Robert Crotts, born in Whitnel, NC in 1908. I think his maternal or maybe paternal mother was named Elizabeth or Amelia. I cannot find any information on this family. My mother divorced him when I was an infant and I was never allowed any contact with the Crotts relatives. Thanks for any info you can share.

    12/03/2002 07:44:06
    1. [NCRowan] LOOKING FOR JENETTA SMITH
    2. Bill and Patty Coleman
    3. Hi from Mexico, list. I see a lot of activity among the Smiths these days and thought I'd check again to see if anyone recognizes my g-g-grandmother, JENETTA SMITH. She was born in 1815 in Rowan County, NC, married GEORGE HILL August 15, 1843 in Davidson County, NC. Only time I find her on a census is 1850 in Davidson Co. GEORGE HILL, b. 1812, was the son of GEORGE HILL, b. abt. 1780 in Rowan County. On the 1815 tax list, he is found in Capt. Trentham's Company. That part of Rowan became Davidson Co. -- Reedy Creek area. If you have anyone in your lines named JENETTA, I'd appreciate knowing about her in case my Jenetta was married before she married GEORGE HILL. She would have been 28 at the time of her marriage to HILL. Thank you and hope some of you can help me with this. Patty http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cuernavaca

    12/03/2002 04:29:34
    1. [NCRowan] Re: William Smith
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/6954.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Richard, I'll do the same.

    12/03/2002 12:50:13
    1. [NCRowan] John Smith b1774 Rowan Co, NC s/o James Smith of N.J.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith/Anderson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7039 Message Board Post: John Smith b.1774 Rowan Co, NC married "unknown", said to be s/o James & Clara (Chloe) Anderson Smith. James Smith b. 1730 was from New Jersey. John & Unknown Smith's children are: John b. abt 1800 James b.abt 1802 Benjamin b.abt 1804 Joseph b.abt 1806 Nancy b.abt 1808 Sarah b.abt 1810 Lucy b.abt. 1812 Eliza b.abt. 1814 Ellen b.abt. 1816 Seeking any info on this family.

    12/02/2002 08:07:22
    1. [NCRowan] Re: William Smith
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/6954.1 Message Board Post: Hi V, Looks like we are going down the same path, if I find any thing, I will lete you Know, R.

    12/02/2002 06:04:29
    1. [NCRowan] Re: Beefel, Beefil, Biffel, Biffle
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7009.1 Message Board Post: Hi Brady, I saw your query about James Biffle. I spent quite a bit of time researching his family. Most people have always thought that Martin Biffle, the son of Paul, died without issue because when his wife, Barbara Roadcap went into court to be made the executrix of his estate her name was the only name that appeared in the document. That assumption was incorrect. The reason that no children were named in the court record is that Martin and Barbara were only married for 20 years so that all children would have be minors. In fact Martin had at least two sons. One was Martin, jr. He received a land grant about 3 years after his father died and no further record has been found for him. The other son was named Adam. He was named for his grandfather who after his birth always referred to himself as Adam, Sr. Proof that there was two Adams comes in the 1800 census when Adam, Sr., John and Jacob are listed in Buncombe county and Adam, jr. is found in Rowan county li! sted as head of household #329. In the 1810 census we find Barbara listed as head of household in the same house number along with her son, his wife and a little boy. That little boy is James. I hope this is of help to you. Sincerely, Blanche

    12/02/2002 03:37:16
    1. [NCRowan] Re: John Redwine Estate
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: REDWINE, DAVIS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/0.2.1 Message Board Post: I have no Lydia Redwine in my research information. Sorry. Jenny

    12/02/2002 12:27:18
    1. [NCRowan] Lydia Redwine b 1814 Rowan Co. Who were her parents?
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Redwine - Boone Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5540/0VB.2ACI/7038 Message Board Post: Seeking info on Lydia b 1814. She married James P. Boone who was b 1814 in Tn. They settled Pope Co Ar between 1840 and 1850. 1790 Census - Benjamine & John Boone living in the vicinity of John Redwine. mitzi2@ix.netcom.com

    12/01/2002 09:11:51
    1. [NCRowan] Re: John Redwine Estate
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5540/0VB.2ACI/0.2 Message Board Post: I am looking for a Lydia Redwine b 1814. She married James P Boone who was b 1814 in Tn. Info I have is " Benjamine and John Boone living in the vicinity of John Redwine in Rowan Co, NC near Yoakin River". 1790 Rowan Census. Lydia and James P. Boone settled in Pope Co, Ark. between 1840 and 1850.

    12/01/2002 08:54:53
    1. [NCRowan] Redwine and Boone Families 1790 census Rowan, NC
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Redwine - Boone Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5540/0VB.2ACI/7037 Message Board Post: Any info on Benjamine & John Boone living in vicinity of John Redwine in Rowan Co, NC on Yoakin River. Seeking any info on Lydia, possibly Redwine maiden name, she was b 1814, married James P Boone b 1814 tn.

    12/01/2002 08:39:42
    1. [NCRowan] Re: MATHERLY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.msn.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/0VB.2ACI/656.1.1 Message Board Post: I believe that Isreal Matherly was possibly my grandfather's grandfather. (that is a GG??) However, my Matherly branch is from Pittsylvania County with my grandfather being Benjamin Harrison Matherly married to Minnie Bell Steele. His father was George Matherly (b.Pittsylvania County) who was married to Martha Barbour (Barber??). Minnie Bell Steele was the daughter of Lida Custer and Hiram Steele.

    12/01/2002 01:24:25
    1. Re: [NCRowan] PETER SCHMIDT SR. - ROWAN CO. GRAVEYARD
    2. Debra Rookard
    3. Betty and Wanda, I have a friend in KY who has just WON over the KY DOT regarding moving the graves of his ancestors, but not without considerable angst. Email me privately and I will put you in touch with him. I'm sure he'll be happy to share how he did it. He is currently writing a book about it. They will all do this to us if we allow them! They can be stopped, but we must become very aggressive and pro-active. Letters alone will not work. City Hall can be fought. I am not related, but do have Rowan County ancestors. Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> To: <NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:30 AM Subject: [NCRowan] PETER SCHMIDT SR. - ROWAN CO. GRAVEYARD : Notice that the grave of Peter Schmidt Sr. is involved, which I didn't : know. : Betty : ----- Forwarded Message ----- : From: Ww4411@aol.com : To: Stuball@icomnet.com, kkdavidson@yahoo.com, AKSENELICK@aol.com, : dantana@carolina.rr.com, pbbecksalisburync@cbi1.net, : flywileyp@hotmail.com, swinkie@easystreet.com, mwineka@salisburypost.com, : bapace2@juno.com, Rmcauley682@cs.com, jsp@carolina.rr.com : Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:06:44 EST : Subject: Email to the Attorney General of N.C. : Message-ID: <198.116dcb6c.2b1bd3e4@aol.com> : : Dear Mr. Roy Cooper - Attorney General of North Carolina : : PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS BEFORE YOU READ! : : When I first saw the construction of I-85 at the Salisbury exit at Innes : Street, Salisbury, NC; I knew it wouldn't be long until it reached the : site of my old family cemetery and knew that it would again be in : jeopardy of being disturbed. : It has been saved twice from destruction....once when I-85 originally : came through in the sixties when my Uncle John Ketchie (owner) gave : right-a-way for the interstate with the understanding that the family : cemetery would not be disturbed (that's why there is a slight curb to the : left heading north bound from Salisbury in the interstate so not to go : through the cemetery) Then after he died the land was passed to my : Grandpa Lee M. Ketchie, and subsquently sold to Mr. Howard Brandon who : had knowledge of the old family cemetery being on the parcel of land and : also had been asked in a gentleman's agreement to not disturb the : cemetery site. : Next a developer bought the land to build houses which fell through when : Aldi stepped in and bought it for their new distribution site. Aldi had : been made aware of the cemetery and they too did not disturb the cemetery : in their landscaping and new construction. : : It is not abandoned...just very old...the last person I know buried there : was in 1831. It's hard to even get to the cemetery....as the road was : covered up during the Aldi construction and earth moving...and the no : trespassing signs that were posted. I parked on I-85 and climbed the : fence back in April 2002 and sent emails to everyone possible to try and : help save the cemetery...A Mr. Brian Overton, an archeologist with the NC : D.O.T. responded back and forth with me for several weeks and then called : me by telephone and told me that he had good news that the cemetery was : not going to be disturbed and wasn't going to be moved....now in an : article of the Salisbury Post on November 11, 2002, it stated it will be : moved! Click here: Workers will move family cemetery : : The article was confusing because there are indeed headstones in the : cemetery...and they are readable...just small in design. I went to the : cemetery in August 2002, and tied fluorescent ribbons all around in the : cemetery so if anybody with the D.O.T. happened upon it would plainly see : that it was a cemetery. : I also have digital pictures of the remaining Tombstones (6) which I can : forward to you via email. The other markers were evidently of wood and : no longer exist as the cemetery is well over 200 years old! : : There is a 1759 Rowan Militia Patriot - George Michael Schmidt/Smith : a Revolutionary Soldier - Jacob G. Smith, (Whig) : and a Civil War Soldier - John D. Shenk Smith, (Infantry) : : all buried in this family cemetery. : : It has been estimated that there may be as many as 50-60 graves in the : cemetery and I have not yet researched the rest. The Smith Cemetery is : listed (along with cemetery photos) in a book, "Obscure Cemeteries of : Rowan County," written by Dr. Kenneth Sells, June 1988. which is : available in the History Room of the Rowan County Library at Salisbury, : NC : : The original parcel of land was deeded to Peter Schmidt, first ancestor : of my family to arrive in America. He was buried in the family cemetery : after his death in 1775 along with his wife Barbara. : His son, : George Michael Schmidt/Smith Born: 1727 Died: Oct. 23, 1814 was one of : the first German Settlers in Rowan County, Salisbury, NC He was a : patriot who served in the Rowan County Militia of 1759, (same militia as : Squire Boone and Daniel Boone), against the hostile Indians of the area : protecting the citizens, even before he was naturalized as a US Citizen! : (listed on 1759 Militia List in Rowan County Archives.) : : He was an appointed Justice of the first court ever held in Rowan in June : of 1753, (Pg. 16, The Rowan Story, by James S. Brawley) to help lay out : the land for the site of the new township and to select the name for it, : (Salisbury) He continued as a Justice of the Peace until his death in : 1814, serving Rowan County and it's Citizens. His name is on the first : list of Rowan County Taxpayers, which was found in the old courthouse : walls in 1944 by William D. Kizziah, Register of Deeds ( Pg. 351, The : Rowan Story, by James S. Brawley) : : Certainly George M. Smith was one of Rowan County's "true" founding : fathers of civic import. The Schmidt/Smith cemetery should be preserved. : It is one of the oldest cemeteries in Rowan County and is indeed a very : significant historical resource of early colonial Rowan County and : Salisbury, NC. : : I am very distressed! It seems that not even in death you are safe, that : according to our N.C. laws a highway or community can be built right on : top of your gravesite and that you then become a "movable" commodity! : Run an ad in the paper 4 times and your gone! I know that progress is : inevitable but our heritage is being destroyed daily by new construction : and a lot of times there are options or alternatives to destruction. : : JUST BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS THE N.C. D.O.T. can move the cemetery, doesn't : mean that they should. : **************************************** : N.C. Laws, REMOVAL OF GRAVES : ARTICLE 5. states that "Any remains disinterrred and removed hereunder : shall be reinterred in a suitable cemetery or burial ground" The Old : County Home Cemetery, which is currently proposed, is referred to in : Salisbury as the "poor house" cemetery, as inmates of the county are : buried there. It is a total disgrace! This is not a suitable place! I : have digital pictures if you would like to see them via email) : : The attempt by the N.C. D.O.T. to locate and notify family members : occurred only after the state and county had already made its decisions. : The family desendants were not included in any decisions. We feel our : rights according to Article 5 have been violated. The N.C. State Law : requires: "reasonable search and inquiry" : The article in the Salisbury Post said to contact 2 different people, but : I tried to contact both with no response. Mark Wineka at the Post wrote : the article and stated he only wrote what the D.O.T. official told him : and knew nothing more. (He was one of the contacts) Richard Eaton's : telephone number was listed in the newspaper and when I called it...the : lady in his office said I could leave him a voice message as he was out : of the office. He emailed me about a week later and told me that due to : illness, my concerns had been turned over to Wayne Patterson with the : N.C. D.O.T. and that he would be responding to me, but as to this date I : have heard nothing from him! : : The Newspaper article stated that no headstones will be moved. : : ARTICLE 5. "Due care shall also be taken to remove, protect and replace : all tombstones or other markers" so as to leave such tombstones or other : markers in as good condition as that prior to disinterment." : : The Newspaper article was incorrect in stating that I, Wanda T. Williams : had been notified! I contacted them when construction first began and : was told by Brian Overton, the Cemetery was not in their plans for right : of way or destruction! No one from Mr. Ronald Eaton's Office has : contacted me. : : Mr. Brian Overton, archaelogist with N.C. D.O.T.has been the only D.O.T. : person who has replied to me. He emailed me that he has seen proposed : revised plans by the Design R.O.W. people that could possibly avoid the : cemetery, but cannot tell me anything definite, if the cemetery will be : included in right-of-way and have to be moved or if it won't have to be : moved. He stated he sees no reason why the R.O.W. can't be revised. But : he is the same person that called me on the phone in April 2002 and : informed me that I could rest easy, that the cemetery was safe from : destruction. : My family needs to know something definite! : : His contact info: : Brian Overton - BPOVERTON@DOT.STATE.NC.US : Archaeologist : North Carolina Department of Transportation : (919) 733-7844 ext 272 : : : : : I have rushed to notify all Schmidt/Smith, Ketchie Descendants of the : N.C. D.O.T.'s plans to move our family cemetery which I was lead to : believe was safe from demise. I have called, emailed, wrote, every : person I could think of that might be helpful and posted on every : Internet family message board my plea to save our old family Smith : Cemetery. A great many desendants have also contacted the N.C. D.O.T. to : inform them of their relation and plea to save the cemetery. They have : notified me that they too have not been responded to. This is : unacceptable! : : : The N.C. D.O.T. has completed the four notices in the Salisbury Post : conforming : : to their "legal" obligations. The sad truth is that there are a lot more : descendants living out of state than the ones living in Salisbury, N.C. : and a lot didn't even see the article in the paper. So my quest has been : to let them know and to contact Mr. Eaton's office with the N.C. D.O.T. : in opposition to the move. What was the purpose of the N.C. D.O.T.'s : article about moving the cemetery and that any Smith desendants should : contact Eaton's office or Mark Wineka at the Salisbury Post if nobody : will reply to you acknowledging that you are a desendant! : : : : I am sorry to say that at this point in time, my efforts may be futile, : but I will not get discouraged...not only due to the soiling of my : personal heritage but of George Smith and my other ancestor's historical : significance to the Trading Ford area, of Rowan County, and Salisbury, : NC! : : : Please help me stop this desecration. Our Rights have been violated! : : Can you, will you, please help me? : : Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my email and for : anything you might possibly do in my quest to save the family's cemetery. : I look forward to hearing from you soon. : : Respectfully, : Wanda T. Williams gggg-grandaughter of George Michael Schmidt/Smith : 269 Johnson Dairy Rd. : Mooresville, NC 28115-9780 Ww4411@aol.com : (704) 664-7595 : : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 : :

    12/01/2002 10:18:41
    1. [NCRowan] PETER SCHMIDT SR. - ROWAN CO. GRAVEYARD
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. Notice that the grave of Peter Schmidt Sr. is involved, which I didn't know. Betty ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ww4411@aol.com To: Stuball@icomnet.com, kkdavidson@yahoo.com, AKSENELICK@aol.com, dantana@carolina.rr.com, pbbecksalisburync@cbi1.net, flywileyp@hotmail.com, swinkie@easystreet.com, mwineka@salisburypost.com, bapace2@juno.com, Rmcauley682@cs.com, jsp@carolina.rr.com Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:06:44 EST Subject: Email to the Attorney General of N.C. Message-ID: <198.116dcb6c.2b1bd3e4@aol.com> Dear Mr. Roy Cooper - Attorney General of North Carolina PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS BEFORE YOU READ! When I first saw the construction of I-85 at the Salisbury exit at Innes Street, Salisbury, NC; I knew it wouldn't be long until it reached the site of my old family cemetery and knew that it would again be in jeopardy of being disturbed. It has been saved twice from destruction....once when I-85 originally came through in the sixties when my Uncle John Ketchie (owner) gave right-a-way for the interstate with the understanding that the family cemetery would not be disturbed (that's why there is a slight curb to the left heading north bound from Salisbury in the interstate so not to go through the cemetery) Then after he died the land was passed to my Grandpa Lee M. Ketchie, and subsquently sold to Mr. Howard Brandon who had knowledge of the old family cemetery being on the parcel of land and also had been asked in a gentleman's agreement to not disturb the cemetery site. Next a developer bought the land to build houses which fell through when Aldi stepped in and bought it for their new distribution site. Aldi had been made aware of the cemetery and they too did not disturb the cemetery in their landscaping and new construction. It is not abandoned...just very old...the last person I know buried there was in 1831. It's hard to even get to the cemetery....as the road was covered up during the Aldi construction and earth moving...and the no trespassing signs that were posted. I parked on I-85 and climbed the fence back in April 2002 and sent emails to everyone possible to try and help save the cemetery...A Mr. Brian Overton, an archeologist with the NC D.O.T. responded back and forth with me for several weeks and then called me by telephone and told me that he had good news that the cemetery was not going to be disturbed and wasn't going to be moved....now in an article of the Salisbury Post on November 11, 2002, it stated it will be moved! Click here: Workers will move family cemetery The article was confusing because there are indeed headstones in the cemetery...and they are readable...just small in design. I went to the cemetery in August 2002, and tied fluorescent ribbons all around in the cemetery so if anybody with the D.O.T. happened upon it would plainly see that it was a cemetery. I also have digital pictures of the remaining Tombstones (6) which I can forward to you via email. The other markers were evidently of wood and no longer exist as the cemetery is well over 200 years old! There is a 1759 Rowan Militia Patriot - George Michael Schmidt/Smith a Revolutionary Soldier - Jacob G. Smith, (Whig) and a Civil War Soldier - John D. Shenk Smith, (Infantry) all buried in this family cemetery. It has been estimated that there may be as many as 50-60 graves in the cemetery and I have not yet researched the rest. The Smith Cemetery is listed (along with cemetery photos) in a book, "Obscure Cemeteries of Rowan County," written by Dr. Kenneth Sells, June 1988. which is available in the History Room of the Rowan County Library at Salisbury, NC The original parcel of land was deeded to Peter Schmidt, first ancestor of my family to arrive in America. He was buried in the family cemetery after his death in 1775 along with his wife Barbara. His son, George Michael Schmidt/Smith Born: 1727 Died: Oct. 23, 1814 was one of the first German Settlers in Rowan County, Salisbury, NC He was a patriot who served in the Rowan County Militia of 1759, (same militia as Squire Boone and Daniel Boone), against the hostile Indians of the area protecting the citizens, even before he was naturalized as a US Citizen! (listed on 1759 Militia List in Rowan County Archives.) He was an appointed Justice of the first court ever held in Rowan in June of 1753, (Pg. 16, The Rowan Story, by James S. Brawley) to help lay out the land for the site of the new township and to select the name for it, (Salisbury) He continued as a Justice of the Peace until his death in 1814, serving Rowan County and it's Citizens. His name is on the first list of Rowan County Taxpayers, which was found in the old courthouse walls in 1944 by William D. Kizziah, Register of Deeds ( Pg. 351, The Rowan Story, by James S. Brawley) Certainly George M. Smith was one of Rowan County's "true" founding fathers of civic import. The Schmidt/Smith cemetery should be preserved. It is one of the oldest cemeteries in Rowan County and is indeed a very significant historical resource of early colonial Rowan County and Salisbury, NC. I am very distressed! It seems that not even in death you are safe, that according to our N.C. laws a highway or community can be built right on top of your gravesite and that you then become a "movable" commodity! Run an ad in the paper 4 times and your gone! I know that progress is inevitable but our heritage is being destroyed daily by new construction and a lot of times there are options or alternatives to destruction. JUST BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS THE N.C. D.O.T. can move the cemetery, doesn't mean that they should. **************************************** N.C. Laws, REMOVAL OF GRAVES ARTICLE 5. states that "Any remains disinterrred and removed hereunder shall be reinterred in a suitable cemetery or burial ground" The Old County Home Cemetery, which is currently proposed, is referred to in Salisbury as the "poor house" cemetery, as inmates of the county are buried there. It is a total disgrace! This is not a suitable place! I have digital pictures if you would like to see them via email) The attempt by the N.C. D.O.T. to locate and notify family members occurred only after the state and county had already made its decisions. The family desendants were not included in any decisions. We feel our rights according to Article 5 have been violated. The N.C. State Law requires: "reasonable search and inquiry" The article in the Salisbury Post said to contact 2 different people, but I tried to contact both with no response. Mark Wineka at the Post wrote the article and stated he only wrote what the D.O.T. official told him and knew nothing more. (He was one of the contacts) Richard Eaton's telephone number was listed in the newspaper and when I called it...the lady in his office said I could leave him a voice message as he was out of the office. He emailed me about a week later and told me that due to illness, my concerns had been turned over to Wayne Patterson with the N.C. D.O.T. and that he would be responding to me, but as to this date I have heard nothing from him! The Newspaper article stated that no headstones will be moved. ARTICLE 5. "Due care shall also be taken to remove, protect and replace all tombstones or other markers" so as to leave such tombstones or other markers in as good condition as that prior to disinterment." The Newspaper article was incorrect in stating that I, Wanda T. Williams had been notified! I contacted them when construction first began and was told by Brian Overton, the Cemetery was not in their plans for right of way or destruction! No one from Mr. Ronald Eaton's Office has contacted me. Mr. Brian Overton, archaelogist with N.C. D.O.T.has been the only D.O.T. person who has replied to me. He emailed me that he has seen proposed revised plans by the Design R.O.W. people that could possibly avoid the cemetery, but cannot tell me anything definite, if the cemetery will be included in right-of-way and have to be moved or if it won't have to be moved. He stated he sees no reason why the R.O.W. can't be revised. But he is the same person that called me on the phone in April 2002 and informed me that I could rest easy, that the cemetery was safe from destruction. My family needs to know something definite! His contact info: Brian Overton - BPOVERTON@DOT.STATE.NC.US Archaeologist North Carolina Department of Transportation (919) 733-7844 ext 272 I have rushed to notify all Schmidt/Smith, Ketchie Descendants of the N.C. D.O.T.'s plans to move our family cemetery which I was lead to believe was safe from demise. I have called, emailed, wrote, every person I could think of that might be helpful and posted on every Internet family message board my plea to save our old family Smith Cemetery. A great many desendants have also contacted the N.C. D.O.T. to inform them of their relation and plea to save the cemetery. They have notified me that they too have not been responded to. This is unacceptable! The N.C. D.O.T. has completed the four notices in the Salisbury Post conforming to their "legal" obligations. The sad truth is that there are a lot more descendants living out of state than the ones living in Salisbury, N.C. and a lot didn't even see the article in the paper. So my quest has been to let them know and to contact Mr. Eaton's office with the N.C. D.O.T. in opposition to the move. What was the purpose of the N.C. D.O.T.'s article about moving the cemetery and that any Smith desendants should contact Eaton's office or Mark Wineka at the Salisbury Post if nobody will reply to you acknowledging that you are a desendant! I am sorry to say that at this point in time, my efforts may be futile, but I will not get discouraged...not only due to the soiling of my personal heritage but of George Smith and my other ancestor's historical significance to the Trading Ford area, of Rowan County, and Salisbury, NC! Please help me stop this desecration. Our Rights have been violated! Can you, will you, please help me? Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my email and for anything you might possibly do in my quest to save the family's cemetery. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Respectfully, Wanda T. Williams gggg-grandaughter of George Michael Schmidt/Smith 269 Johnson Dairy Rd. Mooresville, NC 28115-9780 Ww4411@aol.com (704) 664-7595

    12/01/2002 09:30:54
    1. [NCRowan] Guilford Marriage and Death Records
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. I went to this web site and found that Guilford Co. NC was one of the few NC counties to have a database of marriage and death records. It is a little hard to search, however. However, a lot of other states are given. Betty Pace From: Richard Cottrell <rjc@web-access.net> To: COTTRELL-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:21:07 -0600 Subject: [COTTRELL-L] Death Records Here is something I discovered and it is quite interesting. This web page: http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html That web page has death records for a lot of states. I scrolled down and clicked on the: missouri state archives pre-1909 birth and death records That took me to the Missouri State Archive page: Then I entered the county I wanted to look up in the death records button in the lower right hand corner. I entered the county: Vernon I did not enter anyones name and just clicked search. What I got was everyone that died that was registered by the county clerk before 1909. Some of the death dates went back as far as 1883. It was quite interesting to know this could be done. Richard Cottrell rjc@web-access.net

    12/01/2002 09:09:11
    1. Re: [NCRowan] NC - Civil War Paces
    2. Grace Nezworski
    3. 0ops! My mistake. ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty A. Pace Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:19 AM To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRowan] NC - Civil War Paces The NC Civil War Paces included a father and son from Rowan Co., NC.. Abner Pace (1821-d.after 1880) was a member of the Senior Reserves in Rowan Co., NC, probably active during Gen. Stoneman's assault on Salisbury NC in late April 1865. This was after Lee's surrender at Appomattox. He was a harness maker by trade and had originally come from Guilford Co., NC, where he in 1843 he married Julia Anne Reid (1825-1911), daughter of Jesse Reid (b.1803-1877 Guilford). Abner Pace was the son of Alsey Pace and Zilpha Hall. Abner Pace's only child was John Fletcher Pace (1844-1901), a member of the 57th NC Regiment, largely taken from residents of Rowan Co. NC at its formation in 1862. John Fletcher Pace enlisted when he was 16 years old He distinguished himself at the Battle of Fredericksburg in Dec. 1862. He was with Lee all the way to Appomattox, once being captured and held at Pt. Lookout Prison, MD. Exchanged in early 1864, he and the 57th Regiment were sent with Gen. Jubal Early to protect the Valley of Virginia, perhaps the bread basket.of the Confederate Army. After a year-long campaign there (not covered in the article below), the unit returned to Lee near Petersburg, and were there for the long-suffering siege of Petersburg by Sherman and Grant. After being parolled at Appomattox, he returned to Salisbury, a proud Rebel veteran. When he died in 1901, he was Police Chief of Salisbury; his wife was the former Clara Bell Wilson, daughter of Caroline Earnhardt and William M. Wilson of Rowan Co. NC. His only son was my grandfather Charles Wakefield Pace, Sr.(b.1878). No.Soldier NameSideFunctionRegiment Name 1Pace, AbnerConfederate 4th Regiment, North Carolina Senior Reserves 22Pace, John F. Confederate Infantry 57th Regiment, North Carolina Infantry 57th Regiment, North Carolina Infantry 57th Infantry Regiment was organized at Salisbury, North Carolina, in July, 1862, with men recruited in the counties of Rowan, Forsyth, Catawba, Cabarrus, Lincoln, and Alamance. Sent to Virginia, the regiment was assigned to General Law's, Hoke's, Godwin's, and W.G. Lewis' brigade. It fought with the Army of Northern Virginia from Fredericksburg to Mine Run, then returned to North Carolina. After serving in the Kinston area the 57th was ordered back to Virginia. It continued the fight at Drewry's Bluff and Cold Harbor, in Early's Shenandoah Valley operations, and around Appomattox. The unit reported 32 killed and 192 wounded at Fredericksburg, had 9 killed and 61 wounded at Chancellorsville and twenty-two percent of the 297 engaged at Gettysburg disabled. At the Rappahannock River in November, 1863, it lost 4 wounded and 292 missing. On April 9, 1865 it surrendered with 6 officers and 74 men of which 31 were armed. The field officers were Colonels Archibald C. Godwin and Hamilton C. Jones, Jr., and Major James A. Craige. From: http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/military.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

    12/01/2002 05:12:51
    1. Re: [NCRowan] NC - Civil War Paces
    2. Grace Nezworski
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty A. Pace Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:19 AM To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRowan] NC - Civil War Paces Rowan Co., NC, probably active during Gen. Stoneman's assault on Salisbury NC in late April 1865. This was after Lee's surrender at Appomattox. He was a harness maker by trade and had originally come from Guilford Co., NC, where he in 1843 he married Julia Anne Reid (1825-1911), daughter of Jesse Reid (b.1803-1877 Guilford). Abner Pace was the son of Alsey Pace and Zilpha Hall. 22Pace, John F. Confederate Infantry 57th Regiment, North Carolina Infantry 57th Regiment, North Carolina Infantry 57th Infantry Regiment was organized at Salisbury, North Carolina, in July, 1862, with men recruited in the counties of Rowan, Forsyth, Catawba, Cabarrus, Lincoln, and Alamance. Sent to Virginia, the regiment was assigned to General Law's, Hoke's, Godwin's, and W.G. Lewis' brigade. It fought with the Army of Northern Virginia from Fredericksburg to Mine Run, then returned to North Carolina. After serving in the Kinston area the 57th was ordered back to Virginia. It continued the fight at Drewry's Bluff and Cold Harbor, in Early's Shenandoah Valley operations, and around Appomattox. The unit reported 32 killed and 192 wounded at Fredericksburg, had 9 killed and 61 wounded at Chancellorsville and twenty-two percent of the 297 engaged at Gettysburg disabled. At the Rappahannock River in November, 1863, it lost 4 wounded and 292 missing. On April 9, 1865 it surrendered with 6 officers and 74 men of which 31 were armed. The field officers were Colonels Archibald C. Godwin and Hamilton C. Jones, Jr., and Major James A. Craige. From: http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/military.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

    12/01/2002 05:10:32
    1. [NCRowan] Re: family Trees
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/2816.567.2339.2655 Message Board Post: Your old inquiry about Jones and Wallace names may touch my line. Ebenezer Jones/Mary Roten and his half brothers lived in Rowan County abt 1783-1810 and then moved to Indiana with a family named Wallace. Any connection?

    12/01/2002 03:53:18