Thanks to all those who responded on Alse. In addition, I found this on line under Irish names Alis, Ailis, Ailís, Ailíse, Ailse (al-ISH, EI-leesh, EL-sa) from Norman-French Aliz, which is a borrowing of German Adalhaid "nobility" Alice, Elsa Audrey

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7095.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I plan to check this out Thursday. This is my day to go to the library. I will also try to find her obit. Pat Beck

To add to the confusion of the spelling of a given name Alse, these messages appeared on the Harris-Hunters rootsweb. In this instance, Alsey seems to be a male name. Perhaps additional research of Rowan Co. records will give the correct name of the person, but don't count on it. County clerks got bored with their jobs also--and perhaps at times were even tipsy, good drinking water being in scarce supply, I've been told. I have a short deed from Kentucky which has three different spellings for the surname Harris!! The CClerk got creative--or undecided!! E.W.Wallace Subj: HARRIS-HUNTERS-D Digest V03 #46  HARRIS-HUNTERS-D Digest                Volume 03 : Issue 46 Today's Topics:   #1 [HH] Re: Saline Co., Illinois Harr   ["Ira L. Harris III" < barebear@evan]   #2 [HH] Alsey Harris Saline Co IL       [barbara metzger <bametz@cox.net>]     Message: #1 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:49:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Ira L. Harris  III" <barebear@evansville.net> To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <E18lEgd-0001Dm-00@kermit.cinergycom.net> Subject: [HH] Re: Saline Co., Illinois Harris Families Elijah Willis Harris and his wife Delilah Shaw Harris had a son named Thompson and a son named Alsey.  Both named sons of theirs Alsey. In the 1880 District 108, Douglas, Saline County, Illinois census the two boys are found with their families.  Which Alsey belongs to which brother? 1. Alsey Harris, WM31, b. Illinois, with wife Ellen. 2. Alsey Harris, WM45, b. Illinois, with wife Susan. Can anyone sort these two out.  Any help is appreciated.  Please respond through HH so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evv., In. ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:28:07 -0700 From: barbara metzger <bametz@cox.net> To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3E5307D7.3090501@cox.net> Subject: [HH] Alsey Harris  Saline Co IL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alsey Harris WM 31  - s of Alsey Harris and Rhody (Rhoda) Abney(Abner). He was born 1848 IL. m 11/13/1868 Mary Ellen Dallis daughter of Morgan Dallis and Elizabeth Allen. Alsey Harris WM 45 - s of Thompson Harris and Roda Hampton. He was born c 1835 and died 2/4/1894. He is buried in the New Salem Cemetery in Saline County, Illinois. He married 6/9/1859 Susan Pankey b. 1837 IL d 12/3/1890 buried in the New Salem Cemetery. She was the daughter of John Pankey and Nancy Hamilton. Source : Saline County Cousins, Illinois  compiled by Mary J. Black Peck 1991 and published by Mary J. Black Peck.

Alse and Alcy show up on records in my family for Alice (Hagan and Cathey) from the earliest days of Rowan Co. through the 1800s. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AaronGFett@aol.com> To: <NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:34 PM Subject: [NCRowan] nickname question--need opinions > Hello my learned friends, > I am hoping for help on this one.... > her nickname was Alse........???? > Could her given name be Elizabeth? or something else?? > Thanks for the help, > Audrey F > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McKnight Camp Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/MBEXEC/msg/RW/0VB.2ACI/7101 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on Robert and Agnes McKnight and son Samuel Bradford McKnight who lived in Rowan Co., NC 1800-1827. I don't know Agnes' maiden name. The family moved to McMinn Co., TN abt 1827. Thanks in advance for your help, Jim McKnight Garden Valley, ID

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7095.1.2 Message Board Post: You seem to access to local files. I'm wondering if it is possible for you to look up a death in 1923 of an R.C. or W.C. Williams? It's a long shot but I know that my grandmother was working in a drygoods store in salisbury in 1920 and that she had to have met this guy, got pregnant and went to VA to have the child by herself. The story passed down was that the father died before my dad was born. This may be a fable. I am now thinking she went to live with a relative, probably her grandmother,aunt or uncle in VA while pregnant and unmarried to escape shame in the small town of Salisbury. Thanks for the info on her grandparents in VA. I can now trace relatives there. email me anytime at d_coller@bellsouth.net

The name could be the real name, and a soundex, like Elsie, which was a popular name years ago, and still is used now. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AaronGFett@aol.com> To: <NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: [NCRowan] nickname question--need opinions > Hello my learned friends, > I am hoping for help on this one.... > her nickname was Alse........???? > Could her given name be Elizabeth? or something else?? > Thanks for the help, > Audrey F > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Since many of the people who settled early Rowan Co. were Moravians (Unitas Fratum, I believe I have spelled it right, the more formal name), I suggest you research Moravian records of North Carolina. (Granville's agents made large land grants to the leader of this group--Jacob Loesch and variant spellings.) You may find your Caspers were of this group. They were originally in Pennsylvania but had other settlements in Maryland also. Adelaide Fries a number of years translated from German many of the records of this religious group, and also there are histories of this group. There are about 11 volumes of her translations of Moravian journals--make great reading of colonial western North Carolina. Some larger libraries have this set of books which make very interesting reading. Also, you might want to browse the Family History Library Catalog at <A HREF="www.familysearch.org"> www.familysearch.org</A> The link to the catalog is on the lower right. Do a search first for subject: Moravians Then go back and do a search for Fries, Adelaide - and see what she has compiled. Then, just for fun, go back to the first screen and do a search of your surname in the LDS "vast databases" You might get some hints there. Also, spell Casper with a K. You might do a google.com search for Moravians. At one time I subscribed to a rootsweb site for Moravians, as I suspect one of my female ancestors was of that faith (originally). Just a hint. You may not find the origins of your Caspers but you will know a LOT more about old Rowan Co. E.W.Wallace

I have an ancestress named Ailsie--not a nickname. I have a living acquaintance with that forename--Ailsie. I do not think this is a nickname, but a misspelling of Ailsie. Put it on the back burner for a while. When you get to a good big library, ask for a book on children's names and see what you think. E.W.Wallace

Hello my learned friends, I am hoping for help on this one.... her nickname was Alse........???? Could her given name be Elizabeth? or something else?? Thanks for the help, Audrey F

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7100 Message Board Post: Looking for ancestors of Edward L. Leazer, born apr 1, 1920 in NC. WIfe named Billie Ray, nee unknown. Father HL Leazer started a Water Well Drilling Co. in 1919. Later moved it to Virginia. Edward had several siblings including sisters Nellie and Ruby. Any information appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/6577.1 Message Board Post: Don't wish to intrude, but am looking for ancestors of Edward L. (Doug) Leazer, born Apr 1, 1920 in NC. Wife Billie Ray nee unknown. Father HL Leazer. had several sisters including Nellie and Ruby. HL started a Water well drilling Co. in NC and later moved it to Virginia.No other information available. Any assistance would be appreciated

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CASPER, KLUTTZ Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7099 Message Board Post: Is anyone on the list researching the CASPER'S of Rowan County ? I am seeking anyone who has traced the family back to Germany. I have searched for years trying to find where in Germany our family originated with no luck. Surely, as many CASPERS as there are in Rowan County someone must have this information. Jim Casper Researching Casper and Kluttz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: English Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7098 Message Board Post: Does anyone know of Elizabeth R. English, b. 1803 in Rowan Co.? Who was her husband, parents, children? What is the date of her death?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Craver or Sowers Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7097 Message Board Post: Does anyone have information on Micjeal Craver, born 08/03/1787 married to Susanna Sowers, born 03/09/1794? I know there were married in Rowan COunty, 02/09/1813. I would like to know death dates and/or parents names and info. I have all children info. Thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/7096 Message Board Post: Rowan County, NC Wills James James - 1798 WB-C 313 Does anyone have information where I can obtain a copy of his will. Please e-mail me at: david.alsup@verizon.net

Usually some form of Catherine/Katherine/Kathryn. ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty A. Pace To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: [NCRowan] The name Kitty? What is the name Kitty a nickname for? Catherine? Christine? Betty ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date: 2/10/2003

Yes for Catherine, and could be for Christine.

I have a Kitty in my research that in a nickname for Catherine. Julie -----Original Message----- From: Betty A. Pace [mailto:bapace2@juno.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:40 AM To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRowan] The name Kitty? What is the name Kitty a nickname for? Catherine? Christine? Betty ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

What is the name Kitty a nickname for? Catherine? Christine? Betty