I add my sympathy for all. Lois On Mar 9, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Virginia L. ((Ginny)) Keefer wrote: > My prayers for your valiant firefighters and their families are on > the way. > If a human life is not genealogy, what on earth is. Heartbroken for > your > city, Ginny > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROWAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

My prayers for your valiant firefighters and their families are on the way. If a human life is not genealogy, what on earth is. Heartbroken for your city, Ginny [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bribling1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/2690.5570.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am sorry to say that I have no information. I wish you luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Cousins, While I have hesitated posting this quasi off topic message, I can put it off it no longer. I am assured that all of you bear an especial kinship to Salisbury and Rowan Co, even to the historical happenings of the present day. Forgive me, if any take offence. The town of Salisbury and our surrounding community is in deep mourning as we suffered a great tragedy this week. A fire began in the basement of a very large millwork & cabinet shop just off Jake Alexander Blvd Tuesday morning 4 March 2008, noticed by the first arriving worker about 7:30 AM. The building stored wood, lacquers, paints, and other products for finishing wood. The insidious beast claimed the lives of 2 of Salisbury’s beloved hometown firefighting heroes and injured 4 of those from the Locke community that endangered their lives to go in to save them. The flags in North Carolina are at half staff. Mayor Susan KLUTTZ asks that your thoughts and prayers be with this brotherhood and their families in this time of terrible heartbreak; as well as our entire grieving community. We are all hurting, Debra Today in The Salisbury Post http://www.salisburypost.com/ With video of the fire –WCNC News http://www.wcnc.com/ Salisbury Post photo file http://salisburypost.mycapture.com/mycapture/category.asp?CategoryID=7199 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

Someone sent this to me, so I don't know it's origin. INTERESTING IF TRUE The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500's: 1. Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married. 2. Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water." 3. Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." 4. There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence. 5. The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway. Hence the saying a "thresh hold." (Getting quite an education, aren't you?) 6. In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." 7. Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat." 8. Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous. 9. Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper crust." 10. Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake." 11. England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer." And that's the truth... Now, whoever said that History was boring ! ! ! Educate someone...Share these facts with a friend. Betty Pace

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kwhite611 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/12274.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could you post the obit of Eliza Shoaf Baity to this Board? I would like to have a copy of it. Keith White [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Those interested in the Shofner families may want to google.com Shofner family + genealogy Several of the later listings, not seemingly connected to Ancestry.com, may be of help. E.W.Wallace **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: khnabours Surnames: CONNOR, CONNER, REID Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/41.5000.5027/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in the CONNOR, CONNER surnames. My G-Grandfather John Calhoun CONNOR (sometimes spelled CONNER) was married to Sallie Jane REID abt 1868. The index for marriages has it that they were married in 1860 but that would have been impossible because John C. CONNOR was b. abt 1847 in NC. Thanks for any information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: plumfine Surnames: Baity Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/12274.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm interested in the John Lewis Baity. Who were his parents and where was this couple from? Pat Beaty Webster http://beaty-cox.org Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pokes9194 Surnames: Ribelin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/2690.5570.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have anything in your records of Martin Ribelin having a child named William? I am at a loss. I have traced my Ribelins back to William and was under the impression that his father's name was Martin who married an Anna, but it appears that is not the case. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Here is a guide to the history of formation of Virginia and Kentucky counties. _http://historical-county.newberry.org/website/virginia/viewer.htm_ (http://historical-county.newberry.org/website/virginia/viewer.htm) Note the date on the right side of the screen. The one which pops up on my screen is July 4, 1776. If you are searching for the county boundaries of Virginia and of Kentucky--and whatever else Virginia claimed in 1790, change the date, or at least the year. Bookmark this URL--but, if rootsweb wraps the URL in parens or dashes, remove those marks. (At one time, Virginia claimed parts of Pennsylvania and of Ohio and, of course, all of West Virginia until Civil War times.) Here is another one: _http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm_ (http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm) Here is another one for North Carolina [where many Southside Virginians migrated] _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm) Put these in your address book - county formations You will need these over and over. As another person has written, our brickwalls occur when we believe our folks were always in the same jurisdiction. Not so!!! (In my home state, I found a great-uncle of my mother's in acensus a county with which I was unfamiliar because it had a strange name. The fort where he was living still exists, at least in name only. That county was extinguished, and then the original name was given to a faraway county in the same state. Who said legislators were sane?) Please send these URLs to other lists to which you subscribe. E.W.Wallace E.W.Wallace **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MilisiaHanlin Surnames: THOMPSON, Stewart Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/7314.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Laura, Did this Thomas THOMPSON, son of John, 1700-1774, marry Mary STEWART 29 Apr 1768, in Rowan County, North Carolina? North Carolina Marriages to 1825. I have likewise seen this Thomas THOMPSON, son of John, 1700-1774, of Rowan County, North Carolina, also posted as married to Eliza STEWART, circa 1773, Rowan County, North Carolina, with children enumerated as Elizabeth, George, Ann T., James and Alexander... This Thomas THOMPSON is believed to be the son of John THOMPSON, died 04 March 1774, at age 74, buried next to his son, Alexander THOMPSON, in the Thyatira Presbyterian Church Cemetery, in Rowan County, North Carolina. This John THOMPSON, 1700-1774, is thought to have been married twice; first to Margaret, second to Martha, as she is enumerated in the will of John THOMPSON, 1774, Rowan County, North Carolina. Can you share any further information about this family with us, please? Regards, Milisia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PBbeck34 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/12274.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I copied the obit for Eliza Shoaf Baity from the Salisbury Post. Send me your address and I will send you the copy. Pat Beck Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi all. I have completed transcribing the index of Rowan County will book "B" (1781 -1791), and have began transcribing the index of Rowan Co. will book "C" (1792-1803). The view the index of these will books, go to my webpage at www.digginbones.com . Click the "Records on Site" link on the left side of the page. Near the bottom of that page, you will see the links for the index of the Rowan County will book "B", and "C". Hope you find your ancestors there. Rex W. Bertram 132 S. Butler St. Redkey, IN 47373 Many Free Genealogy Lookups www.digginbones.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: debbiecody Surnames: Phelps, Fryar, Milligan and Ridenour Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/6983.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your answer. I would like to have any information that you have on Alexander. My information shows that Alexander did not die until after 1880. In 1880 he and America are in Washington, Conway, Arkansas with 6 children and 3 grandchildren. Sarah and Hiram were not in the house, Hiram was about 3 pages over. I have not found anything on Alexander since then. In 1900 Hiram was in Montgomery County and died between 1902-1907 when Sarah remarried in Polk County. In 1910 William was in Sebastian County. My email is [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Alice_Wiggington Surnames: Irwin,Wilson,Wiggington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/12219.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! My name is Alice Wiggington Tally, I am looking for anything I can find out on my Grandfather, His name is Ham Irwin he was born in 1882 in Jamestown Ky. He died in 1966 in Jamestown Ky. He married Zola Wilson she was born in 1907 This was his second wife I believe the reason I believe this is Mother called her 3 brothers half brothers My Mothers name was Josephine Irwin she was born 1929 died in 1988 I did not put her mothers date of death down for I am confused about that, My Mother was told that her mother died 8 months after she was born but records have showed me that she died around 1978 or 1987 she is in the same graveyard as her husband but where has she been all those years anyway my mothers Brothers names are Libert Irwin, Dawson Green Irwin, Harold Irwin, I do not have there dates of birth or death Is there any thing you can tell of Ham Irwin and his parents or Grandparents my e-mail address is [email protected] please write me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnnyphelps_1 Surnames: Phelps, Felps, Spry Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/6983.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am from this family line. I can not confirm that Alexander was the son of Aventon/Avington. My gg grandfather, Alfred Oliver Phelps/Felps married Jane Spry, sister of America also in 1841 in Lincoln, Co. I believe (but can not confirm) that Alexander and Alfred were brothers, and I also believe that they were sons of Avington/Aventon. I have just signed up for the Phelps DNA project and hope that will shed some light on the relationships in question. I have some info on Alexander after he left TN and moved to AR. I will send it if you do not already have it. I have recently found a reference to Alexander saying that died in Juneau, Alaska in 1870, which is something I had never heard before. Do you know if that is accurate? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is what the Family History Library Catalog says about Wilson Co., Tennessee. Wilson County was established 26 October 1799 from part of Sumner County. Early records may be found under Sumner County. County seat: Lebanon. The info you seek in Wilson Co. may be in Sumner Co., TN. Sumner Co. has its own archives, but you have to pay a fee for research. I believe a skilled genealogist made a sort of index of the holdings of Sumner Co. Do a search for Sumner Co., TN on the FHL catalog site: _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) Look for the words Archives and also indexes. If there are films listed on the FHL catalog, most of the time you can borrow a film for a limited time for a small fee through a nearby FHC [Mormon], but if not, see what books are listed and ask your public librarian to help you interlibrary loan the books you desire. E.W.Wallace **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Thank you for providing the URL for the formation of North Carolina counties. I hate to jump up all the time from my computer and pull down the big book edited by Helen Leary on doing North Carolina research. I seem to have reason to search from old Craven Co. on the east to at least the Yadkin country on the west and all along the Virginia border. Thanks again! Oh yes, do you have the URL for a lively map of Virginia county formation? Here it is: _http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm_ (http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm) E.W.Wallace **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cgayers Surnames: Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.rowan/12278/mb.ashx Message Board Post: =============================================== The USGenWeb Census Project is pleased to announce the completion of the following census transcriptions: 1850 Rowan County, School District 37 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] 1850 Rowan County, School District 38 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] 1850 Rowan County, School District 39 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] 1850 Rowan County, School District 40 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] 1850 Rowan County, School District 41 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] 1850 Rowan County, School District 42 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] 1850 Rowan County, School District 43 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] 1850 Rowan County, School District 44 or Gold Hill http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nc/rowan/1850/ Abstracted by Sonya Woosley & Lorri Robinson Second Transcribers Lorri Robinson & Maggie Stewart [For more information on Rowan County, North Carolina, Please visit the Rowan County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrowan/] Sincerely, Christine Graham Webmaster, USGenWeb Census Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/ =============================================== http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nu/index.htm =============================================== USGenWeb Search Us - UsGenWeb Census Projects http://www.usgenweb-search.us/census/index.html =============================================== Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.