A publication I have from the State Archives in Raleigh shows Washington County, NC was created from Terrell County in 1779. At that time prior to 1780, there were 3 counites that extended to what is now TN which were Surry, Rowan, and Tryon. In 1780, the most western counties were Wilkes, Burke, and Rutherford. The map (publication) I have comes from the book "The Formulation of the North Carolina COunties 1663-1943" by David L. Corbitt. Was sent to me by Linda Cooper who's on this list. In the very early days around 1740, the counties of Bertie, Craven, and Bladen extended westerward. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert G. Lewis" <rlew6897@earthlink.net> To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Washington Co or Terrell Co? > > Eldon: > > In 1779, Washington county, North Carolina, consisted of that area > that is now northeastern Tennessee. > > > Eldon Wade wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > I am new to your list but hope we can help each other. > > > > Maybe you can tell me which county my ancestor lived in. > > My ancestor, Edward WADE, Sr obtained land in what is now Sullivan Co TN. > > Edward got this land from a John BAILEY/BALEY and was issued warrants that > > was signed by the NC surveyor general. > > The surveyor general's statement opens with "State of North Carolina, > > Washington County, September 24, 1779". > > There is a statement from John BAILEY/BALEY dated October 3, 1782 wherein he > > assigns all rights he has to the land to Edward WADE. > > > > I understand that Washington Co was formed from Tyrrell Co in 1799. > > > > Here is the question: > > Based on the dates of the above documents (1779 and 1782) and since > > Washington Co was officially formed in 1799, were Edward WADE and John > > BAILEY/BALEY living in Washington Co NC or Tyrrell Co NC in 1799 and 1782? > > > > Thank you, > > Eldon > > > > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > NCROOTS-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > (or NCROOTS-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for digest mode" > > Put the one word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > > It helps to leave the subject line blank, or put UNSUBSCRIBE there also. > > > > > > -- > ROB > > Robert G. Lewis > EMAIL: rlew6897@earthlink.net > Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and > others > Member: The National Genealogical Society; The North > Carolina Genealogical Society; New England Historic Genealogical > Society; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society; The Alford > American Family Association > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > NCGenWeb county selection list: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/county.html >

BOB, You might want to look closer at that document. According to The Handybook for Genealogist, present day Washington Co., NC, was established from Terrell in 1799, not 1779. The early Washington County, NC, a portion of which is now Washington County, Tennessee, was formed in 1777 in the Western Territory of North Carolina and covered what is now the whole state of Tennessee and parts of some present day counties of western North Carolina. Present day Tennessee counties of Davidson, Greene, and Wayne were formed from Washington county prior to the Western Territor being ceded to the United States. In the early 1780s, NC had difficulty maintaining law and order in the Western Territory and the citizens there found it almost impossible to travel in a timely manner to the center of government in North Carolina. As with the establishment of most counties, access to their government was the prime reason citizens gave for establishing new counties. In 1784 the state of NC ceded the Western Territory to the United States. The federal government did not accept the territory at that time. The failure of the federal government to accept the ceded Western Territory caused a group of citizens lead by John Sevier to attempt to declare their control of the area and establish the independent state of Franklin. The state of Franklin existed for a period of about 4 years during the middle and late 1780s. This occured during that period after NC ceded the Western Territory to the federal government in 1784 and the federal government refused to accepted responsibility for the security, etc., of the territory. NC reclaimed the area from John Sevier who had lead the action to form the state of Franklin and again ceded the area to the federal government in 1789. This time the federal government accepted the territory in 1790 and renamed it the Southwest Territories. The State of Tennessee was formed in 1796. In Eldon Wade's case, the records that he seeks are probably either in the North Carolina Archives or in the county records in Washington county, Tennessee. Rob > Bob Carter wrote: > A publication I have from the State Archives in Raleigh shows Washington > County, NC was created from Terrell County in 1779. At that time prior to > 1780, there were 3 counites that extended to what is now TN which were > Surry, Rowan, and Tryon. In 1780, the most western counties were Wilkes, > Burke, and Rutherford. > > The map (publication) I have comes from the book "The Formulation of the > North Carolina COunties 1663-1943" by David L. Corbitt. Was sent to me by > Linda Cooper who's on this list. > > In the very early days around 1740, the counties of Bertie, Craven, and > Bladen extended westerward. > > Bob Carter > Greensboro, NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert G. Lewis" <rlew6897@earthlink.net> > To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:22 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Washington Co or Terrell Co? > > > >>Eldon: >> >>In 1779, Washington county, North Carolina, consisted of that area >>that is now northeastern Tennessee. >> > CUT, CUT, CUT >>-- >>ROB >> CUT, CUT, CUT -- ROB Robert G. Lewis EMAIL: rlew6897@earthlink.net Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The North Carolina Genealogical Society; New England Historic Genealogical Society; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association

Thanks for the update Rob! :-) Looking into the past is always interesting . . . . just when you think you have something factual, something else comes along to challenge your initial information. Appreciate you sending this along to me and the list, since now I'll have a reference point. Next time I go to the Archives, I'll see what I can gather on this. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert G. Lewis" <rlew6897@earthlink.net> To: "Bob Carter" <gravehunter@triad.rr.com> Cc: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Washington Co or Terrell Co? > BOB, > > You might want to look closer at that document. According to The > Handybook for Genealogist, present day Washington Co., NC, was > established from Terrell in 1799, not 1779. > > The early Washington County, NC, a portion of which is now > Washington County, Tennessee, was formed in 1777 in the Western > Territory of North Carolina and covered what is now the whole state > of Tennessee and parts of some present day counties of western North > Carolina. Present day Tennessee counties of Davidson, Greene, and > Wayne were formed from Washington county prior to the Western > Territor being ceded to the United States. > > In the early 1780s, NC had difficulty maintaining law and order in > the Western Territory and the citizens there found it almost > impossible to travel in a timely manner to the center of government > in North Carolina. As with the establishment of most counties, > access to their government was the prime reason citizens gave for > establishing new counties. > > In 1784 the state of NC ceded the Western Territory to the United > States. The federal government did not accept the territory at that > time. The failure of the federal government to accept the ceded > Western Territory caused a group of citizens lead by John Sevier to > attempt to declare their control of the area and establish the > independent state of Franklin. The state of Franklin existed for a > period of about 4 years during the middle and late 1780s. This > occured during that period after NC ceded the Western Territory to > the federal government in 1784 and the federal government refused to > accepted responsibility for the security, etc., of the territory. > NC reclaimed the area from John Sevier who had lead the action to > form the state of Franklin and again ceded the area to the federal > government in 1789. This time the federal government accepted the > territory in 1790 and renamed it the Southwest Territories. The > State of Tennessee was formed in 1796. > > In Eldon Wade's case, the records that he seeks are probably either > in the North Carolina Archives or in the county records in > Washington county, Tennessee. > > Rob > > > > Bob Carter wrote: > > A publication I have from the State Archives in Raleigh shows Washington > > County, NC was created from Terrell County in 1779. At that time prior to > > 1780, there were 3 counites that extended to what is now TN which were > > Surry, Rowan, and Tryon. In 1780, the most western counties were Wilkes, > > Burke, and Rutherford. > > > > The map (publication) I have comes from the book "The Formulation of the > > North Carolina COunties 1663-1943" by David L. Corbitt. Was sent to me by > > Linda Cooper who's on this list. > > > > In the very early days around 1740, the counties of Bertie, Craven, and > > Bladen extended westerward. > > > > Bob Carter > > Greensboro, NC > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert G. Lewis" <rlew6897@earthlink.net> > > To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Washington Co or Terrell Co? > > > > > > > >>Eldon: > >> > >>In 1779, Washington county, North Carolina, consisted of that area > >>that is now northeastern Tennessee. > >> > > > CUT, CUT, CUT > >>-- > >>ROB > >> > > CUT, CUT, CUT > > -- > ROB > > Robert G. Lewis > EMAIL: rlew6897@earthlink.net > Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and > others > Member: The National Genealogical Society; The North > Carolina Genealogical Society; New England Historic Genealogical > Society; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society; The Alford > American Family Association >