Chardennay@aol.com wrote: > > The same thing happened to me and even when I signed up for a free trial, it > never let me in to any info or data. > > Virginia > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project - North Carolina > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/northcar/northcar.htm - - - - Hi, Listers: It appears to me that many of us are interested in almost any database that is made available to us. However, we often fail to read the use policy. It is possible that you (as did I) used the search program that is shown on the left side of the website page when we clicked on the URL that was provide instead of the search program at the top of the website. That search from the left side of the page takes us to ONEGREATFAMILY.COM website instead of the <http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/northcarolina_presbyteryorange17601788.shtml> site to which we expected to go. Be careful if you go left! I have copied and pasted the use policy from ONEGREATFAMILY.COM below. Besure to read the Data Use Policy and the Cancellation proceedures. I have also listed some contacts that are listed on the site. Much of this information is very difficult to get to on the site. In fact, you cannot even 'Copy and Paste' the use policy. Before you sign-up, you need to know what you are getting into. I think that I will stay away and not give them my credit card numbers. 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Lewis EMAIL: rlew6897@earthlink.net Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The North Carolina Genealogical Society; New England Historic Genealogical Society; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association

while I understand your concern for others..come on we are all adults here and being on the internet I do believe we can all read. Please, lets get off of this thread and back to genealogy. Marie Cook searching Linebarger, Ethington, and Sherrill on father's side: Liles -----Original Message----- From: Robert G. Lewis [mailto:rlew6897@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:53 AM To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Re: 8 New Databases Chardennay@aol.com wrote: > > The same thing happened to me and even when I signed up for a free trial, it > never let me in to any info or data. > > Virginia > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project - North Carolina > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/northcar/northcar.htm - - - - Hi, Listers: It appears to me that many of us are interested in almost any database that is made available to us. However, we often fail to read the use policy. It is possible that you (as did I) used the search program that is shown on the left side of the website page when we clicked on the URL that was provide instead of the search program at the top of the website. That search from the left side of the page takes us to ONEGREATFAMILY.COM website instead of the <http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/northcarolina_presbyteryorange17601788.shtm l> site to which we expected to go. Be careful if you go left! I have copied and pasted the use policy from ONEGREATFAMILY.COM below. Besure to read the Data Use Policy and the Cancellation proceedures. I have also listed some contacts that are listed on the site. Much of this information is very difficult to get to on the site. In fact, you cannot even 'Copy and Paste' the use policy. Before you sign-up, you need to know what you are getting into. I think that I will stay away and not give them my credit card numbers. Also, please be advised that I am in no way or manner affiliated with or connected with this site or any other software or database website. - - - <<< ONEGREATFAMILY LICENSE AND TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE IMPORTANT -- READ CAREFULLY: This End-User License Agreement ("Agreement") is a legal agreement between you (the person accepting this agreement) and Z-Corp, a Utah corporation, dba OneGreatFamily.com, for the software product identified above, which includes computer software and associated electronic documentation (the "Software"). BY AGREEING TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, OR BY DOWNLOADING, INSTALLING, COPYING, OR OTHERWISE USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, INCLUDING THE WARRANTY DISCLAIMERS, LIMITATIONS OF LIABILITY AND TERMINATION PROVISIONS BELOW. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, DO NOT DOWNLOAD, INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE SOFTWARE APPLICATION, AND EXIT NOW. 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Use of Support Services is governed by OneGreatFamily.com policies and programs described in the "online" documentation, and/or in other materials provided by OneGreatFamily.com. Any supplemental software code provided to you as part of the Support Services shall be considered part of the Software and shall be subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement. This license may not be transferred or assigned to any other party. Without prejudice to any other rights, Vendor may terminate this Agreement if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In such event, you must destroy all copies of the Software and all of its component parts, and OneGreatFamily.com may suspend or deactivate your use of the Software with or without notice. Confidentiality: All information that you provide to OneGreatFamily.com is subject to the OneGreatFamily.com Privacy Policy and Data Usage Policy. Unless the Privacy Policy or Data Usage Policy specifically protects the submitted information, you should not have any expectation of privacy for any information that you provide to OneGreatFamily.com. Data Usage Policy By uploading your genealogical data, either by gedcom file or manually, you indicate that you agree to the following terms and conditions: 1) You have obtained permission from all living persons named in your submissions to send their information to OneGreatFamily. 2) You grant OneGreatFamily permission to publish your name and email address as the contributor of the information you submitted. This contact information helps others to coordinate research with you. 3) You grant OneGreatFamily permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute any of the information included in your submission without compensation and in any form we feel appropriate. You also give us permission to use information from your submission to create new databases. 4) You affirm that you have the right to grant us permission to use the information in your submission, as described in these conditions. You accept legal responsibility for any permitted use made of the information you provide. 5) You agree that we are not responsible for any alteration, loss, damage, or corruption to your submission. 6) You agree that once you submit your genealogy to us, it becomes our property and cannot be retracted or returned. However, this does not limit your right to publish, sell, or give the information you submit to others. 7) You are 18 years of age or older. If you are under 18 years old, you must get permission from your parents before you send any information about yourself or others. 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If you subscribe to the Service following a free trial period, the trial period takes the place of the 30 day cancellation period. No refund will be provided following completion of the free trial period. The 30 day refund period begins on the day you register for the subscription Service, which is also the day you are given access to the subscriber features of the Service. Cancellations during the 30 days must be made by calling us at 1-801-491-3414 and providing the same information that you provided when you subscribed. Your cancellation call must be received by end of business (5:00 p.m. Mountain Time) on the 30th subscription day. Refunds are subject to return of goods. Please allow a reasonable time for the refund to reach you or be charged back to your credit card if you have subscribed by credit card. 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Lewis EMAIL: rlew6897@earthlink.net Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The North Carolina Genealogical Society; New England Historic Genealogical Society; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to NCROOTS-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (or NCROOTS-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for digest mode" Put the one word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. It helps to leave the subject line blank, or put UNSUBSCRIBE there also.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C2EDAE.C21D7CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Fwd: Legislation to close records This was sent to me by a > fellow genealogist....doesn't sound like a good idea for us that are > researching....thought you may be interested....Geraldine > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > Sharla Linex-Johnson ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C2EDAE.C21D7CC0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Legislation to close records.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Legislation to close records.eml" X-Apparently-To: ceclinger@yahoo.com via 216.136.232.79; 17 Mar 2003 19:20:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <jameshollas@austin.rr.com> Received: from 24.93.36.229 (EHLO ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com) (24.93.36.229) by mta174.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 19:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.rr.com (cs6669196-98.austin.rr.com [66.69.196.98]) by ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h2I3Ai3M022301; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:10:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:18:23 -0600 From: James Hollas <jameshollas@austin.rr.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Legislation to close records Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2151 Dear Genealogist, Below is a message from Mic Barnett of Houston about the bills before the Texas Legislature that affect us as genealogists. Most of these bills would close or reduce access to records we use. Mic is the owner of Barnett Books and is a regular vendor at our Seminar. Last year his large area was in the middle of the vendor room. He also writes a Saturday column for the Houston Chronicle. Please read the message and get on the mail list and write letters to let your representatives know how you feel. Otherwise, we may lose even more access to the records. Thanks, James Hollas AGS President ---------------------------------------------------- Hi Everyone: As the Texas Liaison for the Joint (National Genealogical Society/Federation of Genealogical Societies) NGS-FGS Records Preservation and Access Committee I have set up both a website and email mailing list to aid us in lobbying the Texas Legislature. The Legislature currently has several bills pending which seek to close records to the public. Information about these bills is on the website. This website is a place where we can post information about particular bills and how to locate legislators to contact. The mailing list is designed as a forum for us genealogists to communicate quickly and be able to coordinate activities in quick mode should we have to do so. And we already have to do so. There is a hearing at 1:30 or whenever the committee earlier in the day adjourns- for the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee discussing SB81 and SB 85 which both want to close DD214-Military Discharge records in the county clerk's offices. The hearing will be held in the Betty King Committee Room in Austin. Anyone who attend is asked to do so I have included others from states outside the Republic of Texas in this email so they can see what we are doing here. They might wish to monitor what we do or just follow our lead and do something similar in their own state. The website is located at http://micbarnette.bravepages.com There is a page on the website where one may go to subscribe to the mailing list, however you may do so by following the attached directions The mailing list may be subscribed to by sending an email to TXLEGNOTES-L-request@rootsweb.com in the message area of the email type subscribe. There is a digest mode at TXLEGNOTES-D-request@rootsweb.com but it may be held up 12 hours before being sent. For speedier mail, at least during the legislative season when it might count, I would recommend subscribing to the L mode rather than the D mode. After the legislative season there may not be anything to say on this list. It will already have been said and voted upon. The basic things to be concerned with at his point is about 8 bills pending in the House and the Senate which aim to close DD214/Military Discharges in Texas. Plus two new bills, one in the House and one in the Senate wanting to extend the time birth records are closed in Texas from 50 years to 75 years. Plus a bill wanting to close marriage applications to the public. Plus TEXSHARE/TIFF funding for schools and libraries and electronic database access. Plus HIPPA which I don't know much about but which is expected to go into effect April 14 and will probably close records which have medical records or information in them. This bill effects insurance and medical companies and offices. I remember hearing some people talking about this last week they were not into genealogy. Now I have had someone in a county clerk's office ask me about the same thing and said it may affect their records. So, we may have to address this problem, too. The whole crux of closing public records is all about Identity Theft and the fear of it. People feel that if a record is available for use someone must be stealing their identity. So, Identity theft and how to protect public records from thieves and convince public officials not to pass laws closing them is going to be our goal at least as I envision it. Please pass this email to everyone in every society. We will need some some numbers to show the legislature we care. We are starting late in the legislative season and are therefore already behind. Thanks, MIC -- James Hollas 7704 Evaline Ln Austin, Tx 78745 (512) 280-1415 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C2EDAE.C21D7CC0--

The same thing happened to me and even when I signed up for a free trial, it never let me in to any info or data. Virginia

In a message dated 3/18/2003 1:05:14 PM Central Standard Time, dgperry@earthlink.net writes: > The problem alluded to below is that there are several search windows on the > pager for Ancestry.com. These are not free. Use the search window inside > the green border. These are free. > > Sorry - did that - got 131 hits - when I look at the hits and try to actually look at the information I get the message that I need to sign on or.... get a free 7 day trial. I can not actually see the data. Thanks for trying - - Emma

(This list is an index of the people mentioned in The South Carolina And North Carolina Revolutionary War Service Record of WILLIAM BROWN and NANCY BROWN. Transcription of the record follows the index.) Thomas Beasley Daniel B. Brown Henly Brown Henry Brown Huldah Brown John Brown Martha Brown Mary Brown Nancy (no maiden name mentioned) Brown (wife of William Brown) Nancy Brown (daughter of William Brown) Thomas Brown William Brown Wilson Brown Capt Uriah Goodwin Lieut. Hewsom (or Newsom) Capt Elias Pate (or Tate) Sterling Rachels D. Snead Daniel Snead (same as previous?) Israel Snead John W. Snead Col Thompson # # # # # # # # # (Quote Follows) SOUTH CAROLINA SERVICE AND NORTH CAROLINA SERVICE OF WILLIAM BROWN AND NANCY BROWN (W 5878) DECLARATION was made in Richmond County North Carolina 1832 July term William Brown resident of said county and state age 69 or 70, who applied under Act of Congress of June 7, 1832. States that some two or three months before the taking of SAVANNAH GEORGIA by the British, he then residing in BLADEN COUNTY was drafted in the Rangers or Thompson light horse and joined Col Thompson corps under Capt Uriah Goodwin, and served more than 9 months, the forepart of said time in Wilmington, N C and the latter part in S C and was stationed guarding the magazine at Savannah under Lieut. Hewsom (or Newsom); that after the expiration of the time of service he came home to N C after which he served several times under Capt Elias Pate (or Tate)? In 1833 he stated he did not know in what year he was born but that he is 70 in 1833. Nancy Brown widow of William Brown Richmond Co N C died in Richmond Co N C 1849 January 26 ; That Wm Brown died Oct 1847; two affidavits of D Snead and Thomas Beasley state they were at the burial [sic] Wm Brown. The affidavit of John W Snead, that the widow left surviving the following children; Wilson Brown, Mary Brown Martha Brown, Nancy Brown and Huldah Brown intermarried with Sterling Rachels, residing in Richmond Co N C and Henry Brown in Autauga County Alabama and John Brown when last heard from resided in Kentucky, name of county not stated. �John W Sneed [sic] was appointed administrator of estate of Mrs Nancy Brown 16 Jan 1855 and was admrx thereon. 1855. Affidavit of Israel Snead in Richmond Co N C Affidavit made 1855 April 11, stating regarding a faded bible leaf of family records as follows: That the name of Thomas Brown listed on this bible record the oldest child of said Wm & Nancy Brown is in the handwriting of this deponent; that if John Brown the 4th child of said Wm & Nancy is alive he is very near the age of this deponent; that Wm and Nancy had a family of Nine (9) children who remained in the family till their arriavl [sic] of age or longer and Wm and Nancy lived together as man and wife ; that the nearest evidence of their marriage before the first Jan 1764: is the record in his father�s hand writing of the birth of Thomas who it appears was born 20 Oct 1791 and that he as well as all the nine children were known and never doubted to be the children of the married couple said Wm and Nancy Brown. Thomas Brown died long ago, Henly Brown now living in Alabama Daniel B Brown dead five years ago, John Brown is [sic] some of the western states, and not heard from for many years. Wilson Brown living in this county, and Mary, Martha, Nancy and Huldah Brown lives in this county; that Wm and Nancy Brown were residents of Richmond Co N C and died here Jan 26, 1849. All of the faded bible records cannot be read. It looks like Daniel Snead was born 17__ or Sept 17?? Thomas Brown Junr born Oct 20 1797 fairly plain. Declaration made in Richmond Co N C 1833 under Act of June 7, 1832, that Wm Brown was born 1761 or 1762. The widow Nancy Brown filed declaration April 1st, 1848 under Act of Feb 2 1848, stating she is widow of Wm Brown a private of cavalry in the Revolution and who received a pension of $37.50 per annum under Act of June 7 1832 and Wm Brown Died 18 October 1847, that she was married to Wm Brown 1790. # # # # # # # # # Transcribed by Sheila Gibson (s2gibso@yahoo.com) from South Carolina pension abstracts of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812 & Indian Wars by Annie Walker Burns Bell, FHL US/CAN 975.7 M24b ===== Sheila (SpiritHawk) Gibson ~ Help Jamie Help E.B. Suffers: www.anetherealsuite.com Thank You! Wado!

Looking for people researching families of eastern Richmond County that lived along the following streams: Lumber River, formerly Drowning Creek Muddy Creek (northern part of county) flows into Lumber River Shoe Heel Creek flows into Robeson County Jordans Creek flows into Shoe Heel Creek Juniper Creek flows into Jordans Creek Bridge Creek flows into Robeson County Leiths Creek flows into Bridge Creek Gum Swamp flows into South Carolina Upper Beaverdam Creek flows into Gum Swamp Lower Beaverdam Creek flows into Gum Swamp Joes Creek flows into Gum Swamp Thanks, Sam West Lumberton [Robeson Co] NC

The problem alluded to below is that there are several search windows on the pager for Ancestry.com. These are not free. Use the search window inside the green border. These are free. dennis -----Original Message----- From: Roger Kennedy [mailto:awesome_genealogy@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 1:20 PM To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCROOTS] Re: 8 New Databases Nanawcr70, This is not accurate. The databases I told the list about are FREE. There is no gray area. They are FREE. These are the direct links that directly apply to the list: http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/northcarolina_presbyteryorange17601788.shtml http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/northcarolina_emigrantsbath16951696.shtml All the information is there. Not part. ALL. FREE. You do NOT need to be a member to view them. You do need to be able to scroll down. That's all. :) Regards, Roger Awesome Genealogy http://www.awesomegenealogy.com NCROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: From: NANAWCR70@webtv.net To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCROOTS] Re:18 New Databases I got the same thing. I am not a member anymore, either, and won't be anymore. It wasn't worth it to me.All the family I was sure of---was all wrong on there. How do you get Ralph, from a Joseph Y? A lot of these are only if you have a membership to Ancestry.com. S.M. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== NCGenWeb county selection list: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/county.html

THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE ARE MENTIONED IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH CAROLINA REVOLUTIONARY WAR PENSION ABSTRACT RECORD OF THOMAS BROWN, BELOW: Capt John Barkley Alexander (Brown) Rebecca (Brown) Robert (Brown) Thomas Brown William Brown (father of Thomas) William Brown (brother of Thomas) Capt George Dunlap Col James Grimes Margaret (Brown) Hall Capt Wm Houston General Andrew Jackson Mrs. Jackson (mother of Andrew Jackson) Capt John Kenedy Col Joseph Kershaw Col Locke Capt James McFadden Nancy (Brown) McGregor George Savage Capt Oliver Wily # # # # # # # # # (Quote Follows) SOUTH CAROLINA SERVICE AND NORTH CAROLINA SERVICE OF THOMAS BROWN S 3059 The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary war pension claim S 3059, based upon the military service in that war by Thomas Brown. Thomas Brown the son of William Brown, was born February 28, 1753, in Augusta County Va. The name of his mother is not shown, -When Thomas was ayouth [sic] , his father moved from Augusta Co Va to Rowan Co N C; thence to the Waxhaw settlement in South Carolina and was a neighbor to Mrs Jackson, mother of General Andrew Jackson, whom Thomas Brown knew as a boy. While residing in the Waxhaw settlement, Thomas Brown�s father apprenticed him to a hatter, who moved to Tryon Co N C taking Thomas with him. While residing in Tryon, that part which was later Rutherford, Co NC, Thomas Brown, enlisted March 1776, and served 7 weeks as a private in Capt James McFadden�s company, Col James Grimes� N C regiment; after this service was concluded, he went to the home of his father in South Carolina enlisted there June 1 1776, served as a substitute for his father for six weeks as a private in Capt John Barkley�s company, Col Joseph Kershaw�s S C regiment, marched to Charleston where he was employed as a guard or sentinel and witnessed the attack on Sullivan�s Island; in a few days after the expiration of this service Thomas Brown volunteered in Charleston, served as a private in Capt John Kenedy�s company Col Joseph Kershaw�s S C regiment and was discharged Sept 1776, served 6 weeks in Capt George Dunlap�s Co, Col Joseph Ker [sic?] Kershaw�s S C regiment and in October 1776 reenlisted and served and served [sic] six weeks at Charleston, in Capt John Barkley�s Co, Col Joseph Kershaw�s S C regiment, after the expiration of this tour, he started for his father�s home in the Waxhaw settlement, and while on the road, met some troops from NC, among whom was his brother, William Brown and decided to enlist with these N C troops and served in Capt Wm Houston�s company, Col Locke�s N C regiment and was discharged June 1777, having served six months. Again returned to his father�s home where he remained until spring of 1780, when the settlement being threatened by enemy, he and his father fled to Mecklengurg Co N C and his brothers, Alexander, Robert, and Wm Brown joined the army of the U S. While residing in said Mecklenburg Co, Thomas Brown again enlisted and served a [sic] about 27 days under Capt Oliver Wily�s company of Cavalry, N C troops. After he left the army, Thomas Brown moved to the Holston river, in what was later Sullivan Co Tenn where he remained several years, then moved to Warren Co Tenn, where he remained several years, where he had resided for about 25 years when he was allowed pension on his app. Executed Oct 8 1833. On the Final Payment Papers which are filed with the claim, one George Savage was appointed administrator of Thomas Brown deceased, in Warren Co Tenn; and it was stated that Thomas Brown resided 32 years in Warren Co Tenn and previous thereto resided in SMITH CO TENNESSEE that in 1849 died 3rd Sep, left no widow but the following children ; Wm Brown, Alexander, Rebecca, Margaret Hall and Nancy McGregor. # # # # # # # # # Transcribed by Sheila Gibson (s2gibso@yahoo.com) from South Carolina pension abstracts of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812 & Indian Wars by Annie Walker Burns Bell, FHL US/CAN 975.7 M24b ===== Sheila (SpiritHawk) Gibson ~ Help Jamie Help E.B. Suffers: www.anetherealsuite.com Thank You! Wado!

THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE ARE MENTIONED IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH CAROLINA REVOLUTIONARY WAR PENSION ABSTRACT RECORD OF JACOB BROWN, BELOW: , Ruth (Brown) (maiden name not stated) George Avery Elizabeth Bird Colonel Thomas Brandon Bird Brown Captain Gabriel Brown Jacob Brown (b. 1736) Jacob Brown (b. 1761) Jacob Keen Brown Louisah Gains Brown Malinda Brown Matthew Moore Brown Mary Brown Rebecca Brown Ruth Brown Sarah Brown Thomas J. Brown William Brown Colonel Casey Captain Farr Captain Gordon Captain Otterman Colonel Pickens Colonel John Sevier Colonel John Thomas Colonel Williams Captain Thomas Woods # # # # # # # # # (Quote Follows) SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH CAROLINA SERVICE OF JACOB BROWN AND ELIZABETH W333 The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary war pension claim W333 based upon the military service in that war of Jacob Brown. Jacob Brown was Born August 3, 1761, on Jumping Run Creek near Columbia South Carolina. He was the son of Jacob Brown who was born December 11 1736 and died June 28 1785, and his wife Ruth (maiden name not stated) who was born August 14, 1740 and died between October 8 and 9, 1810. The places of birth of Jacob Brown, Senior and his wife, Ruth, are not stated. Jacob Brown enlisted in NINETY SIX DISTRICT South Carolina 1778 or 1779 and served 4 months as a private in Captain Farr�s company, Col John Thomas� SC regiment; he enlisted Jan or Feb 1780 and served 3 or 4 months in Capt Farr�s Company Col Pickens, SC regiment and was in an engagement at Ogeche In April 1780, he went to Mecklenburgh Co NC and joined Capt Gordon�s company, Col Thomas Brandon�s regiment and was at the battles of Rocky Mount and Hanging Rock, after which eh [sic] was appointed ensign and attached to the company of Capt Gabriel Brown (his cousin), Col Williams� regiment; he then joined the company of Capt Jacob Brown (his father), a resident of Washington Co NC, later a part of Tennessee), Col Sevier�s NC regiment and was at the battle of King�s mountain, sered [sic] 7 months in all. In fall of 1780, while a resident of Washington Co NC he served 2 or 3 months as ensign in said Capt Jacob Brown�s company, Col John Sevier�s NC regiment. He returned to South Carolina, in March 1781, and in April 1781 enlisted and served as a private in Capt Otterman�s and George Avery�s companies, Col Casey�s South Carolina regiment and was at the siege of Ninety-Six and discharged Nov 1781. In Dec 1781, he returned to Washington Co NC and Sept 1782, he enlisted in Capt Thomas Woods� company, Col Sevier�s NC regiment and served 2 or 3 months as private. Jacob Brown was allowed pension on his application executed Sept 11, 1832, while a resident of Washington Co Tenn. In 1833 he was referred to as �Colonel Jacob Brown� no explanation for the tile [sic] was given. He died Aug 21 23 or 28 (all these dates are shown 1838. He married Feb 9 1786 in Washington Co NC to Elizabeth Bird, who was born Jan 28 1769. Elizabeth was allowed pension on her application executed October 4, 1841 while a resident of Washington Co Tennessee. CHILDREN OF JACOB AND ELIZABETH BROWN: RUTH BROWN Born October 15 1787 WILLIAM � � 9 1789 THOMAS J � September 15 179_ SARAH � March 4 1794 died 3-25-1797 MARY � November 5 1796 REBECCA � February 8 1799 BIRD � October 20 1801 JACOB KEEN BROWN January 28, 1804 MALINDA BROWN � 5, 1807 The following family data are shown also Jacob Logan son of J K Brown born Aug 8 1829 Matthew Moore Brown born Aug 7 1830 Louisah Gains Brown born April 17 1832 Their mother died April 27 1832 In order to obtain date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid and possibly date of of [sic] death of the Revolutionary pensioner, Elizabeth Brown widow of Jacob Brown you should address this compiler and quote; Certificate No 5272 Issued April 10 1846 Rate $80 per annum Commenced March 4 1843 Act of March 3 1843 Tennessee, Jonesboro, Agency # # # # # # # # # Transcribed by Sheila Gibson (s2gibso@yahoo.com) from South Carolina pension abstracts of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812 & Indian Wars by Annie Walker Burns Bell, FHL US/CAN 975.7 M24b ===== Sheila (SpiritHawk) Gibson ~ Help Jamie Help E.B. Suffers: www.anetherealsuite.com Thank You! Wado!

Nanawcr70, This is not accurate. The databases I told the list about are FREE. There is no gray area. They are FREE. These are the direct links that directly apply to the list: http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/northcarolina_presbyteryorange17601788.shtml http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/northcarolina_emigrantsbath16951696.shtml All the information is there. Not part. ALL. FREE. You do NOT need to be a member to view them. You do need to be able to scroll down. That's all. :) Regards, Roger Awesome Genealogy http://www.awesomegenealogy.com NCROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: From: NANAWCR70@webtv.net To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCROOTS] Re:18 New Databases I got the same thing. I am not a member anymore, either, and won't be anymore. It wasn't worth it to me.All the family I was sure of---was all wrong on there. How do you get Ralph, from a Joseph Y? A lot of these are only if you have a membership to Ancestry.com. S.M. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!

----- Original Message ----- From: George Craig To: NCSCOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:09 AM Subject: CRAIG Good morning: We are a new member trying "to grab at straws" as a last resort. Our ancestor, Joseph W. CRAIG was reportedly born in 1799 or 1805 in Maryland. We have been unable to find any record of this fact and theorize it may have been during the families emigration to Western Pennsylvania and no record was filed. The family ended up in Beaver County PA . Does anyone have any possible tie into these facts and /or any advice for us ? Thanks for your thoughts and if we can help you in any way in Beaver County,PA let us know. G&G George D. Craig RAOGK Volunteer Beaver County,PA

Beannachtaí na Féile Pádraig oraibh! Which means: Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all! Here's some Irish Folklore, cultural and St Patrick's day links for you all. There's some pretty neat sites on language, thats where I got the saying above. There's also a page on Ireland genealogy, and North Carolina genealogy. Have fun with it: <A HREF="http://khuish.tripod.com/irefolk.htm">Firstmom's Ireland Culture, Folklore and St. Patrick's Day Resources</A> http://khuish.tripod.com/irefolk.htm Kathy

Bethania is a nice little community and the cemetery at Bethania Moravian Church is rich in history. . . called God's Acre. . . . a beautiful place. That's where I found the grave of Andreas VOLCK which is now FULK, FAULK, etc. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mema" <rmemazz@charter.net> To: <> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: [NCYadkin] Bethenia/ Bethania NC location? > I would be interested in the message that mentioned Bethania, NC because I have a Bethenia/Bethania BELL that was born in NC in > 1824. I have been searching for her family, perhaps she was named for the town she was born in?? > I looked in my Atlas but did not find a Bethania NC. > Could someone direct me to a source for that town's location? > Please and thank you > mema > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Would the kind person who sent a message about locating guardianship records in Orange Co., PLEASE resend that message. I had printed it out and have misplaced it. The message was that the records were not in the Court House but in another place. Thanks very much. Fay Kitchens ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

>I would be interested in the message that mentioned Bethania, NC >because I have a Bethenia/Bethania BELL that was born in NC in >1824. I have been searching for her family, perhaps she was named >for the town she was born in?? >I looked in my Atlas but did not find a Bethania NC. >Could someone direct me to a source for that town's location? Bethania is in Forsyth County, on the northwest side of Winston-Salem. -- Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://www.fmoran.com/

According to the North Carolina Gazetteer, Bethania is in western Forsyth County on Muddy Creek. It was settled 1759 and incorporated 1839 but not now active in municipal affairs. Names by the Moravians, whose second or "new town" it was, for the Biblical town of Bethany. Refugees during the French and Indian War found protection within the Bethania stockade and many of them remained to build homes there. If you don't have a copy, I highly recommend North Carolina Gazetteer, a Dictionary of Tar Heel Places, compiled by William S. Powell. It is a wonderful aid to anyone interested in North Carolina. I'm happy to do look ups for anyone interested in the origin or location of obscure North Carolina towns and places. Carla Stancil Townsend -----Original Message----- From: Mema [mailto:rmemazz@charter.net] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:28 PM To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCROOTS] Bethenia/Bethania NC location? I would be interested in the message that mentioned Bethania, NC because I have a Bethenia/Bethania BELL that was born in NC in 1824. I have been searching for her family, perhaps she was named for the town she was born in?? I looked in my Atlas but did not find a Bethania NC. Could someone direct me to a source for that town's location? Please and thank you mema ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== NCGenWeb county selection list: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/county.html

Looing for a Ayresor Arie Thompson borned abt 1790 NC married in SC had a son Jackson abt 1828 his wife was Nancy need to find out whose his parents was. Thank You Bobby

Genealogical databases will allow St. Philips visitors to trace history backwards Located in Winston-Salem, NC, the St. Philips Church complex sits nestled among the quaint Moravian buildings that make up the historic Old Salem. The St. Philips brick church is the oldest standing African American church building in North Carolina and one of the oldest in the South. African American families often have difficulty tracing family roots back into the 18th and 19th centuries. However, families with ties to the Africans and African Americans that helped build the community of Salem, NC -most of them were enslaved- will have a unique opportunity at St. Philips. Computer databases that trace family names from the early 1900's back into Salem's history will be available to any visitors with an interest in genealogy. The Moravians, a protestant group from Germany, built the St. Philips log church in 1823 in order to teach religion to those enslaved in the area. A brick church was built in 1861 in order to accommodate the growing attendance rate. In 1891, there was an addition added to the front of the church to accommodate a growing Sunday School. In front of the brick church stands the African American graveyard. Sometime during its history, all of the gravestones were taken up and placed underneath the steps and under the addition of the brick church. The Moravians were detailed record keepers. They believed in equal education for men and women. Therefore, the Moravians, as a whole, were a very literate group. Most citizens of Salem kept a daily journal. Many of those journals remain stored in the Moravian archives in Old Salem today. The Moravians' details give genealogists a unique opportunity to trace family histories. Old Salem staff and others working on the family lines of St. Philips have been able to work from the past to the present and have taken many of the names of those enslaved in Salem and followed their families out into different parts of the modern community. Many of those descendants remain in the area today and recently, the descendants of one of those enslaved, Peter Oliver, who died in 1810, had a family reunion in Winston-Salem, NC and at Old Salem. The St. Philips Church complex will reopen to the public on May 5, 2003 with a week of history and celebration. The St. Philips complex will officially become of the part of the Old Salem tour on Thursday, May 15, following the opening of the new Old Salem Visitor Center on May 14. For more information on St. Philips or any of the opening events, contact Old Salem at (336) 721-7300 or visit http://www.oldsalem.org. ###. Opening Events The week begins with a sacred rededication service on Sunday, May 4 at 4:30 p.m. The service will be led by Rev. Cedric S. Rodney of the current St. Philips congregation, located on Bonair Ave. This day will include the rededication of the church as well as the African American graveyard. Monday, May 5 at 11:30 a.m. will be the official ribbon cutting. Following the public ribbon cutting, the complex will be open free to the public from noon-5 p.m. On Thursday evening, at 7:30 p.m., in the sanctuary of the brick church, the members of the Emmanuel Baptist Church Spiritual Choir will lead attendees in an old fashioned Praise Service that was a forerunner of today's prayer meetings. The evening will be filled with music and excitement that has not been a part of the St. Philips brick church's history for over 50 years. Friday night, St. Philips will be the site of a very special free theatrical performance by Flonnie Anderson. "Celia's Salem" will begin at 7:30. Celia was one of the African Americans enslaved by the owners of the Salem Tavern. This production will serve as a poignant reproduction of the lives of those enslaved in Salem. The week of celebration concludes in a very special way on Saturday, May 10, with Masonic and Descendant's Day. At 12:00 noon, the Masons, who played a large part in the building of the reconstructed log church, will return to dedicate the site through the installation of a cornerstone and time capsule. Also in attendance on Saturday will be descendants of those people who actually lived, laughed, cried and celebrated their lives within the walls of St. Philips. The event is open to the public. from Kelli Reich <KReich@oldsalem.org>

I have Barrett ancestors. Laura S A Barrett Married a Joseph Porter. Anyone have the Barrett or Porter line. Hdp020537@aol.com