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In 1841, John Gilchrist, Jr. and others felt that the educational needs of the young ladies of the Robeson County area were not being filled. Their answer was the founding of Floral College, the first female college in the state to confer degrees. John had settled on a large plantation near Centre Church, just north of present day Maxton and there he set aside property to house Floral College. The success of the college became his ruling passion. He devoted all of his energy and most of his resources to its upbuilding. He received great help from a wonderful Board of Trustees. They were Malcom Purcell, WA Sellers, Peter A. MacEachin, Dr. Angus D. McLean, Dr. John Malloy, Malcom Smith, and Daniel MacKinnon. Found in the 1848 Catalogue are the following staff: Rev. John R. McIntosh, Principal, Instructor in Chemistry, Natural Philosophy, Evidences of Christianity; Mrs. C.M. McIntosh, Drawing, Painting, Embroidery, Botany; Mr. John C. Sutherland, Mathematics, Intellectual Philosophy; Miss Elizabeth H. Jewett, Grammar, Geography, History and Rev. F.W. Plassman, Music, Vocal and Instrumental. In 1843 the college graduated its first eight students: Euphemia D. McNeil, Flora McNeill, Flora Bunting McQueen, Mary Morrison, Mary Jane Davis, Ann Catherine Shaw, and Mary Jane Shaw. In the 1856 Catalogue we find the following members of the Board of Trustees A.D. McLean, MD, President; John Gilchrist; John Malloy, MD; Archibald Smith; Daniel McKinnon; Peter McEachin; Alexander Purcell; William McKay; JB McCallum; P.A. McEachin, Treasurer; Col. P.P. Smith; A.S. Baker; J.S. McQueen, Secretary; J.A. McKay; Douglad Patterson and Wm. A. Sellers. The faculty were Rev. Daniel Johnson, Principal, Instructor of Chemistry, Moral Science, Latin and Greek; Mrs. E.M. Johnson, Assistant Governess and Superintendent of Social Duties; Miss Mary L. Morrison; Miss Caroline Murphy; Miss Sallie R. Kerr and Miss R.J. Dougherty. In 1856 the college had a total of 71 pupils. Floral College thrived until the beginning of the Civil War, when it was forced to close for the duration. During the time it was closed the buildings we rented to the Bellamy family of Wilmington. It was believed that the women and children would be safer in land, but as we now know Sherman's troops march right to the door of Floral College. An ad for the college in January 1871 sates that preparatory course tuition, board and washing could be had at the cost of $85 while the same was available on the collegiate level for $90. In addition they could choose from music taught on the piano and guitar, pencil and crayon drawing, painting in oil and watercolors. Lights and fuel were provided at cost with one half of the tuition being due in advance and the other at the close of the session. By 1872 things had turned for the worst. In the January 4, 1872 newspaper is found the following ad: On the 8th day of Feb'y next Floral College will be sold to the highest bidder, subject to a mortgage in favor of the heirs of the late Reuben King, the sale to take place on the premises. Also, at the same time and place, will be sold all furniture and fixtures belonging to the College; also all evidences of debt. Terms Cash. By the order of the stockholders, D.S. Morrison, J.D. McLean and J.M. McKinnon commissioners. Thus a sad ending to a glorious institute of learning. John Gilchrist was an experimenter with new kinds of fruit and vegetables and loved to plant unusual species, the late Cornelia McCallum Purcell often told of him visiting Floral College. On one of his visits he brought with him tomatoes and lectured to the girls on their food value. This was the first time many of the girls had ever seen tomatoes, the belief at the time was that they were poisonous. I am working on trying to document a complete history of Floral College and the girls that attended. I am interested in any personal information concerning the girls (letters, diaries, photographs, etc.) I have set up a website (http://bbtyner.com/floralcollege) it is not complete but it does contain three spreadsheets I have complied. The first lists all the graduates from 1843 until 1848. The second lists all those attending the school in 1848 and the third shows the girls attending in 1856. Please take time to see if your family members are listed. Contact me at blake@bbtyner.com Thanks, Blake Tyner Robeson Historical Commission Robeson History Museum

Columbus Co., NC Heritage book deadline extended to Jan 31, 2004! Because of numerous requests, and "because we insisted upon it" says Gerri Lynn of the S.E. NC Genealogical Society, "the deadline for stories, pictures and book orders has been extended to Jan. 31, 2004!" For all details, click on: http://www.columbuscountyheritage.com/ As a part of the prestigious NC County Heritage series, the Columbus County book will become one of approximately 70 North Carolina County Heritage Volumes. Important and unique aspects of the Columbus book include; Free 500 word family household story Free Pioneer story (1850) allows another 500 words FREE family photos to A L L submitters Rich, vibrant color (not black) coffee table binding For reference, the Columbus County book will be in brilliant color, like the dozens of other counties who worked with the same printer. Click on: http://www.columbuscountyheritage.com/ to view a photo of other breathtaking County heritage volumes printed by the same firm.. Even if you just "passed thru" Columbus County, we want your family story and FREE picture! Beck Mills for the S.E.N.C. Genealogical Society

This book has no cover, and no index, and no author. I bought it on Ebay; it just has the insides, but it is full of Indiana biographies. I am not researching this family, just thought I would share. I do not know anymore about these families or these surnames. NOTE: I don’t know if there is any additional mention of this family in the book, it has no index. I do not want to sell this book. I am typing the biographies from it. Typed by Lora Radiches: Other surnames mentioned in the biography of MARION H. AMICK are, Amick, McCaslin, Heaton, Carmichael, Glick. MARION H. AMICK, of Columbus, one of the active young business men of that city, has had three principal interests during his career, the first being farm life, the second his service during the World war, and more recently a successful insurance business at Columbus. He was born in Jennings County, Indiana, January 14, 1895, son of Cyrus N. and Jennie (Heaton) Amick. The Amick family came originally from Germany. From Pennsylvania, where they first settled, they went south to North Carolina. From North Carolina they came by ox wagon across the country through the Cumberland Gap of Kentucky to Indiana in 1809, and were among the earliest pioneers of Jennings County. Mr. Amick’s grandfather, Obed Amick, was born in North Carolina, before the family came to Indiana, being a son of Peter Amick. Both of them after coming to Indiana took up Government land and hewed farms out of the wilderness. A number of the Amicks have been business and professional men. Cyrus Amick was a farmer all his active life. Marion H. Amick was one of three children. His brother Cecil C., now in the insurance business at Detroit, Michigan, married Merle McCaslin. His sister, Eunice, is the wife of Claude Carmichael, who is in the insurance business at Indianapolis. Cecil was in the Student Army Training Corps during the World war. All three of the children attended school in Jennings County. Marion H. Amick completed his education at Purdue University and then went on the farm. In July, 1911, he enlisted, was sent to Fort Benjamin Harrison at Indianapolis, to Camp Shelby, Mississippi, and Leon Springs, Texas, and later was returned to Camp Shelby. He was promoted to sergeant in August, 1917, and was assigned duty as an instructor at Camp Shelby, Mississippi. He was appointed a student instructor with the Student Officers Training Corps and in August, 1918, was commissioned a second lieutenant at Camp Taylor, Kentucky. He was assigned to the Twenty-seventh Field Artillery at Camp McClellan, Alabama, and in October was sent to Camp Mills, Long Island, preparatory to going overseas. This order was cancelled by reason of the armistice and he was sent back to Camp McClellan and received his honorable discharge at Camp Grant, Illinois, February 7, 1919. After the war he resumed farming in Bartholomew County and took a very active part in the Farm Bureau organization from 1919 until 1927. He left the farm and moved to Columbus, where since September 1, 1927, he has conducted a general insurance business, representing a number of standard organizations over Bartholomew County and surrounding counties, including the Mutual life of New York City, the Globe-Rutgers Fire Insurance Company, the New York Fire-Indemnity Company of America, for which he writes automobile insurance, the Standard Surety Casualty Company of New York, with brokerage connections in various large cities in the central states. Mr. Amick is a charter member of the American Legion Post at Columbus and was service officer in 1929 and in 1930 was elected commander. He is a member of St. John’s Lodge of Masons. Mr. Amick married Helen V. Glick, who was born in Bartholomew County and finished her education in Franklin College. They have three daughters, Mary Elenore, Marjorie Lois and Jene Marie.

Does anyone have information on a Lewis S. Herring cemetery near Magnolia N.C.? I am looking for information on : Nancy M. Groves Herring Thomas James Herring. Are they buried there? Thanks for the lookup Wanda

Good Morning List Members. I have been thinking again so look out. Never in the history of mankind have we been in position to leave as much visual record material for future generations. With the coming of digital imaging and the CD and DVD disks it couldn't be easier. All that would be required would be for people in the future to keep moving the records into the next higher technology. The idea that I have involves Rutherford and maybe Cleveland Co., NC. I am sure all of you are familiar with PC Slide Shows and I have the software for one that permits you to add a narrative with each picture. When it is placed on a CD it has folders with all the picture files and all the sound files. They are in .jpg and .mp3 format. If they both carried the same filename they could be easily redone later into some other form. What I am offering to do is to do the PC work and put CD's together with about and hour to maybe as much as two hours per CD. The main drawback is you would have to listen to me do the narrative and this could take some getting use to. Of course, you could make and attach an .mp3 file of your own narrative and I would put it on the CD. Here is what you would have to do. You would need to send me, by E-mail/attachment, .jpg photos of old places, things, people, etc. You would also need to send identification of what, who, where everything is. By the way, something that we all should do anyway is to explain on the back of our photos who, what and where everything is. Also put dates on them if possible. If you wanted your own narrative on the disk you would need to send an .mp3 file of it also. I would ask that you keep the attachments to only about a maximum of 1 meg. I am only considering Rutherford Co., NC at this time and I am asking for your input as to the feasibility of doing this. When I had received enough photos I would build the CD and let our Genealogy Society handle the distribution of the CD's. I would think that the cost could be kept between $10 and $15 plus shipping. As everyone knows, there is just no way to keep something like this for free as is my webpage. This would only pertain to old stuff and things that were already gone such as any old buildings including churches, schools, stores, mills, old people, etc. This is just an idea that I feel could be very helpful for future generations of genealogists and historians. Please let me know your thoughts on the idea and would you be interested enough to send old photos. This is not meant to be a profit seeking venture by me. It will only cost me time and money. The society would be the only entity making a profit but the future generations would profit from have this available and being able to have a glimpse of the past. Feel free to ask me any questions about the project. Talk To Me, Bill

I take it you had put Groves in the search box at Ancestry and checked out all the Groves in the 1790 and 1800 Census reports. 43 hits in 1790 and 77 in 1800. The reason for no hits in those years in Virginia is that there is no census remaining for those years in Va. Tax lists do exist and are the closest thing we have to use. Check out: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/ Steve and Bunny have worked very hard going around the state and photograping the tax lists. This is a wonderful resource for those of us who research Virginia. Good luck. margy From Ancestry.com: 1790- Enumerators were only required to make one copy of the census schedules to be held by the clerk of the district court in their respective area. In 1830, Congress passed a law requiring the return of all decennial censuses from 1790-1830. At this point it was discovered that many of the 1790 schedules had been lost or destroyed. Thus, we have about two-thirds of the original census from the time period. The 1790 census suffered district losses of Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky, New Jersey, and Virginia. However, some of the schedules for these states have been re-created using tax lists and other records. Virginia was eventually reconstructed from tax lists as well as some counties from North Carolina and Maryland. 1800-- The official enumeration day of the 1800 census was 4 August 1800. All questions asked were supposed to refer to that date. The enumeration was to be completed within nine months. Schedules survive for 13 states. Lost schedules include those for Georgia, Indiana Territory, Kentucky, Mississippi Territory, New Jersey, Northwest Territory, Virginia, Tennessee, and Alexandria County, District of Columbia. Some of the schedules for these states have been re-created using tax lists and other records. ----- > I have been researching census from 1790 -1920, especially in North Carolina > and surrounding areas. > > I have a question someone may be able to help me with. > In Virginia on the 1810 census, there is a sudden burst of population. Did a > boat land? Were there migrations? Why did we suddenly have so many people > in Virginia. > EXAMPLE; In the 1790 & 1800 census, there were no GROVES names in Virginia. > But in 1810 they went up to 38 head of households. None of the other states > population suffered, so I assume it was not all migration. > HELP! > Wanda Groves Kohlmann > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > NCGenWeb project: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > >

I have been researching census from 1790 -1920, especially in North Carolina and surrounding areas. I have a question someone may be able to help me with. In Virginia on the 1810 census, there is a sudden burst of population. Did a boat land? Were there migrations? Why did we suddenly have so many people in Virginia. EXAMPLE; In the 1790 & 1800 census, there were no GROVES names in Virginia. But in 1810 they went up to 38 head of households. None of the other states population suffered, so I assume it was not all migration. HELP! Wanda Groves Kohlmann

This ones a jewel, you can search by name, state, unit and etc. Then when you get a hit, you can click on anything that comes up 'blue' and get details of history, units, unit muster rolls and etc. Go to http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm . Good hunting, John -----Original Message----- From: FLYFISHW@aol.com [mailto:FLYFISHW@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:55 AM To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCROOTS] request Civil War site Looking for a good Civil War site where I could find a name for someone who served North Carolina. I do not know the regiment. Only have a name. Thanks ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== USGenWeb Archives Census Project - North Carolina http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/northcar/northcar.htm

Looking for a good Civil War site where I could find a name for someone who served North Carolina. I do not know the regiment. Only have a name. Thanks

Hello Everyone: Those of you who are working on your lines back to your 1600s American Ancestors will find the1600s Ancestors Data Base to be of great help. My recent postings to the Data Base has taken it to over 26,500 Ancestors who have descendants living today. I have also added several National Societies who have proven many of these Ancestors. Also at this time a few new respected Reference works that contain thousands of sources including some of the early colonists who have Royal Blood lines. All the entries are coded to indicate to which reference work or which National Society has at least one of their proven lines. Several of the National Societies have over 20 different lines from a single Ancestor. When you enter the 1600s Ancestor Data Base be sure to look at the top of each data page for the link that takes you to the "Data Base Information Page" Here you will find the codes and references listed and how to use them. This is MUST reading to understand the Data Base. We are constantly updating the Data Base with additional Ancestors added as time permits. You will find the 1600s Ancestor Data Base at: http://www.firstfamilies.org/db/ Everyone has FREE access to all our web site and the reports contained there. Enjoy and Happy Hunting Ryan Jackson Data Base Manager America's First Families

I am researching 2 unrelated families in early NC. #1. John Swindle of the 1820 census at Ashe Co, NC. Unknown wife, possibly Ruth Fry/Frey. Children: Ruth, Elizabeth, Lucy, Nancy, James, Joseph. #3. Hugh Parks of the 1790 census at Mecklenburg Co, NC. My relative Moses Parks b. 1795 NC later settled in Fayette Co, TN. I would like to correspond with any researchers of the names. Best regards, Lillian Kathleen Martin

My name is Kem Barlow. I am trying to help my husband research his ancestors, namely James B. Barlow, born in or around Fayettesville, NC in 1795 and Sarah Biggs Barlow, born also in or around Fayetteville, NC in 1805. We have no information about their ancestors and would be greatful if anyone can help us. Thank you very much! Kem Barlow kemdee12@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

The original link I provided was http://riversideregionallibrary.org/ which is the Riverside Regional Public Library in Missouri. Their web site says it serves Perry, Cape Girardeau and Scott Counties, Missouri. They had a link to HeritageQuest Online and ProQuest Historical New York Times, and there was some free time to view the information . . . . to December 7th if I recall. Unfortunately, it appears the "free time" is no longer available, and that is probably due to the huge increase in people linking up to the main site. For those that want the address of HeritageQuest Online and ProQuest Historical New York Times, their site is a fee-based system located at: http://www.heritagequestonline.com/prod/genealogy/index However, as others have said after I made my post, your local library may have access to these records so I'd check with them. This is my last post. :-) Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: WFORDSUE@aol.com To: gravehunter@triad.rr.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online I believe this site is available only to libraries and/or institutions -- at least that's what it says -- please let me know if I am incorrect. I'd love to be able to use it - even willing to pay a fee.

Can you tell me what kind of information Heritage Quest has? thanks, christine

Thanks to Janet and Beulah for adding the point about using local libraries and their subscriptions to this service. Another reason to get out of the house and visit the library. :-) Bob Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet K. Theberge" <jkt54@ktc.com> To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online > This is not the end of HeritageQuestOnline's service. There are a great > many libraries across the country who subscribe to this service, and all you > have to do is call your local library to see if they are members. If so, > one day while you are in town, drop by the library to pick up their > password. Anyone can access HeritageQuestOnline any time they want from > their home computer using your own library 's assigned password. I know > lots of people who use it from home frequently. I keep my library's > password taped to the top of my computer monitor. I can access Heritage > Quest as easily as I can access Rootsweb or USGenWeb or any other site. If > your local library does not subscribe, check with other towns nearby - one > of them surely is a member. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Carter" <gravehunter@triad.rr.com> > To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online > > > > Well gang . . . . it appears that all good things must come to an end. My > > thinking is that they were so overwhelmed by the interest, that their > > servers were working overtime to meet the demand and they had to stop the > > service. > > > > I sent them a note to see if it would be open again, but have not heard. > > Will post something if they contact me again. > > > > Bob Carter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J.Lee & Nan Goodson" <nyg4jlg@bellsouth.net> > > To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:53 PM > > Subject: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online > > > > > > > This website requires a Username and Password. Is this a free site or > for > > fee. How do you contact to access either way? JL Goodson > > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > NCROOTS-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > (or NCROOTS-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for digest mode" > Put the one word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > It helps to leave the subject line blank, or put UNSUBSCRIBE there also. > >

You can have access to Heritage Quest plus other databases by becoming a Godfrey Scholar at the Godfrey Memorial Library and paying an annual fee of $35. You don't have to live in CT where the library is located. I just joined over the phone and got my password. To me is is well worth the $35 per year to have access to all of the databases plus the complete census records. http://www.godfrey.org/ -- --- Susan C. Johanson, Springfield VA http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/j/o/h/Susan-C-Johanson/ ...Searching for footprints in the sands of time...

I've long had a full subscription to Ancestry.com. I checked out Heritage Quest last week when the notifications arrived of free access. Although I did not get to use it extensively, I was very impressed with the census feature. It allowed me to print out a page not only showing the actual census, but it transcribed it on the same page in plain English. That's a LOT better than what Ancestry does. Carla Stancil Townsend -----Original Message----- From: The Cook's [mailto:pepperhead1@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:43 AM To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online Hello, when you do call the library be sure to ask if they subscribe to either Heritage Quest or Ancestry on line as I've seen some with Ancestry Databases. ~Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet K. Theberge" <jkt54@ktc.com> To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online > This is not the end of HeritageQuestOnline's service. There are a great > many libraries across the country who subscribe to this service, and all you > have to do is call your local library to see if they are members. If so, > one day while you are in town, drop by the library to pick up their > password. Anyone can access HeritageQuestOnline any time they want from > their home computer using your own library 's assigned password. I know > lots of people who use it from home frequently. I keep my library's > password taped to the top of my computer monitor. I can access Heritage > Quest as easily as I can access Rootsweb or USGenWeb or any other site. If > your local library does not subscribe, check with other towns nearby - one > of them surely is a member. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Carter" <gravehunter@triad.rr.com> > To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:35 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online > > > > Well gang . . . . it appears that all good things must come to an end. My > > thinking is that they were so overwhelmed by the interest, that their > > servers were working overtime to meet the demand and they had to stop the > > service. > > > > I sent them a note to see if it would be open again, but have not heard. > > Will post something if they contact me again. > > > > Bob Carter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J.Lee & Nan Goodson" <nyg4jlg@bellsouth.net> > > To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:53 PM > > Subject: [NCROOTS] Heritage Quest online > > > > > > > This website requires a Username and Password. Is this a free site or > for > > fee. How do you contact to access either way? JL Goodson > > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > NCROOTS-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > (or NCROOTS-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com for digest mode" > Put the one word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > It helps to leave the subject line blank, or put UNSUBSCRIBE there also. > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== USGenWeb Archives, North Carolina index: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/ncfiles.htm

Just chrcked with New Hanover co.library. they have subscribed to Heritage Quest online. they will be up and running in about one week. you might check with your local library. NH Co has joined with several other NC library's to offer this servie Carl Pridgen CPrid10125@aol.com