Great news! Deadline extended to March 15! March 15 is the new deadline for family stories and pictures for the forthcoming book; The Heritage of Columbus Co., NC 2004. Gerri Lynn, Book Committee Chair says "we have hundreds of family articles, but would like even more!" Proceeds go to the S.E. North Carolina Genealogical Society. Becky Mills for the Book Committee

In a message dated 2/9/2004 8:59:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, EUZELIA@aol.com writes: > > Failed to mention that there is an African American cemetery, Pinewood, > there. > Also, that a Civil War cemetery is there. > If this begins, there is no telling where it will stop....you know that > *progress*. > Joy > > http://www.alexandersociety.com/ > > This is the site for Elmwood Cemetery in Charlotte and a list of graves that > > are in *grave* danger of being moved for *progress*.......whatever....... > There is a petition here to sign to keep the cemetery intact. Don't know if > > it will help or not but here it is. > > I think I have an ancestor buried there, will check that out..thanks, christine ...

Failed to mention that there is an African American cemetery, Pinewood, there. Also, that a Civil War cemetery is there. If this begins, there is no telling where it will stop....you know that *progress*. Joy http://www.alexandersociety.com/ This is the site for Elmwood Cemetery in Charlotte and a list of graves that are in *grave* danger of being moved for *progress*.......whatever....... There is a petition here to sign to keep the cemetery intact. Don't know if it will help or not but here it is.

In a message dated 2/9/2004 12:46:54 PM Central Standard Time, southerngirl441@hotmail.com writes: Does anyone know if it was common back in the middle 1800's on up to 1900 for a man to walk away from one wife and children and take up with another woman and start a new family and continue to live in the same county ? Haven't found that in the same county but have found about 3 folks who left their families - moved elsewhere and married again and started another family. Take care - Emma

After puzzling over the fact that there were two men with the same surname (and not a common one) of the age and the same given and middle names with one wife left behind and a new wife having children in a neighboring county, I had to conclude that he had left the first wife and moved away with the second one. Then he moved the second family several states away. The first wife stayed on in the same house in the same town as her relatives for more than 20 years. The land she was on was given to the couple on their marriage. Fortunately, the first wife did not have to provide for children.

one researcher that i correspond with is looking for a man in his ancestry that did "just walk away from" his wife and 8 children in Maine, and would up in Jacksonville, Florida. he never filed for, or received, a divorce from his wife. it is known that he was in Jacksonville because of a letter that he wrote in 1861 to a family member in Maine. in the letter he recounts the cities he went to (and why he left them) and states that he was in Jacksonville at the time he wrote the letter. past that...nothing. the researcher can find hide nor hair of the man after that letter. and no reason was ever given by the man as to why he left. Julie Thames Howell Jacksonville, Fla ----- Original Message ----- From: southerngirl441 @hotmail.com To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:46 PM Subject: [NCROOTS] DIVORCE _ SEPARATION Does anyone know if it was common back in the middle 1800's on up to 1900 for a man to walk away from one wife and children and take up with another woman and start a new family and continue to live in the same county ? Times were very different from today, Although Im sure if you had $$$ you could afford a divorce you did. But what if you were a dirt poor farming family ? . . . . .Did some men just walk away from their families and take on a new and younger wife and start new families ? I have run across such instances where it seems like that happened. Have found the same man with two different families dating close together. I wonder what the wife left behind did to support herself ? Get remarried if she already had 6 children ? . . . Or did the husband support both families ?. . . Did men back in those days look down on their peers who did such things ? What about the church? The principles back then. Was this an accepted act. Or was it frowned upon ? Im sure some couples had problems living together back then as they do today, Humans are only human. But has anyone else run into this kind of thing in this area with their families ? Would like to have your input and how do you think it was dealt with back in the day. Thanks K. _________________________________________________________________ Keep up with high-tech trends here at "Hook'd on Technology." http://special.msn.com/msnbc/hookedontech.armx ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== Map set, formation of NC Counties: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm

Does anyone know if it was common back in the middle 1800's on up to 1900 for a man to walk away from one wife and children and take up with another woman and start a new family and continue to live in the same county ? Times were very different from today, Although Im sure if you had $$$ you could afford a divorce you did. But what if you were a dirt poor farming family ? . . . . .Did some men just walk away from their families and take on a new and younger wife and start new families ? I have run across such instances where it seems like that happened. Have found the same man with two different families dating close together. I wonder what the wife left behind did to support herself ? Get remarried if she already had 6 children ? . . . Or did the husband support both families ?. . . Did men back in those days look down on their peers who did such things ? What about the church? The principles back then. Was this an accepted act. Or was it frowned upon ? Im sure some couples had problems living together back then as they do today, Humans are only human. But has anyone else run into this kind of thing in this area with their families ? Would like to have your input and how do you think it was dealt with back in the day. Thanks K. _________________________________________________________________ Keep up with high-tech trends here at "Hook'd on Technology." http://special.msn.com/msnbc/hookedontech.armx

No help on the divorces, but if you need marriage dates for Forsyth, I can get that for you. Bob Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerri Ann" <gal@naxs.net> To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: [NCROOTS] NC Records > Thanks to all for the great help. I am actually trying to get divorce > records for 1946 through the 1950's. If they will be where the person got > their divorce I think I need Forsythe and maybe Davie. > > Thanks again, > Gerri Ann > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > NCGenWeb project: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > >

Good Morning Folks, As Martin Luther King said "I Have A Dream" and that is to leave something for future generations. In the past we have had no way to leave any visual record of what was there other than the oldest photographs and as we can see they do become unusable and the VHS tapes that we make only have a life span of about twenty years. We now have the means to leave sooooo much valuable video with the coming of the digital age. The digital video on DVD is almost indestructable. I just got myself a new digital video camera and a new PC that can write to DVD. Here is what I propose. Take the time and go around and video all the places that you use to play and do your growing up and since you are recording your voice also explain what everything is and all the crazy things that you use to do. It will mean nothing now but will be priceless 100 - 200 years to your descendants. I have done this. I futher propose that we all try to video as much of our own county/counties as we can. You c! an get a small power converter to plug in the cigarette lighter of the car that will power the camera just fine. You can easily mount a small tripod over the hump between the seats. Leave the camera on it's widest angle lens setting and aim it out the right side of the windshield and travel down the road and back while recording the video and explaining what you might know about the various places and things. I live in a county of NC that seems to have nobody that is interested in history or leaving anything for future generations and I am sure that many of you have the same problem in your county/counties. As the saying goes "If I Don't Do It, Who Will". I have already started in Rutherford Co., NC. At this time it looks very foolish and you cannot do it without some expense. Just how would you like to be able to see video and have someone explain what things were 200 years ago? This cannot happen for us but it can be there for future generations. The problem is that techno! logy is continually changing and improving and unless there is always some interested "nuts", like myself, to keep moving it ahead to the next media or should we say keep moving it ahead with the technology. It would soon die because of no equipment that would display the video. It is only up to us to create the video and that would be our fair share. Someone else can do the the upgrading to the next technology. I know that this is not exactly genealogy but it is running awful close. Lets hear a little input, or outcry, on this. Bill

Thanks to all for the great help. I am actually trying to get divorce records for 1946 through the 1950's. If they will be where the person got their divorce I think I need Forsythe and maybe Davie. Thanks again, Gerri Ann

on 2/5/04 10:01 PM, NCROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com at NCROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > NCROOTS-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 16 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [NCROOTS] James Calhoun/Perkins [Homelybin@aol.com] > #2 [NCROOTS] Correctiony should have [Homelybin@aol.com] > #3 [NCROOTS] Mathis- Matthews/Gavin s [FLYFISHW@aol.com] > #4 [NCROOTS] Divorce Records ["Gerri Ann" <gal@naxs.net>] > #5 Re: [NCROOTS] Divorce Records [Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NCROOTS-D, send a message to > > NCROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > Contact Elizabeth Harris, ncgen@mindspring.com > for any questions, complaints, etc. > > > ______________________________ > From: Homelybin@aol.com > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2004 3:41 AM > To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCROOTS] James Calhoun/Perkins > > Looking for information on a James Calhoun born N C approx 1807 (1850 census > has him listed as 43 yrs. old.) > > It is noted in some "family research" he was married to an Elizabeth Perkins > born N C approx. 1801 (1850 census has her listed as 49 yrs old) Elizabeth's > mother's name may have been Nancy and Later he was to have married her sister > Sarah Perkins > > Is anyone researching this family I am trying to tie them in with a Huggins > family if possible. Two Huggins children Robert b 1839 and Ellen born 1841 > in > Alabama are listed as living with James Calhoun and Elizabeth in the 1850's > census. If any one can help I would appreciate it. > > Thanks in advance > Barbara in Louisiana email address: homelybin@aol.com > > ______________________________ > From: Homelybin@aol.com > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2004 4:20 AM > To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCROOTS] Correctiony should have read Joseph Calhoun/Perkins > > Looking for information on a Joseph Calhoun born N C approx 1807 (1850 census > has him listed as 43 yrs. old.) > > It is noted in some "family research" he was married to an Elizabeth Perkins > born N C approx. 1801 (1850 census has her listed as 49 yrs old) Elizabeth's > mother's name may have been Nancy and Later he was to have married her sister > Sarah Perkins > > Is anyone researching this family I am trying to tie them in with a Huggins > family if possible. Two Huggins children Robert b 1839 and Ellen born 1841 > in > Alabama are listed as living with jJoseph Calhoun and Elizabeth in the 1850's > census. If any one can help I would appreciate it. > > Thanks in advance > Barbara in Louisiana email address: homelybin@aol.comn > > ______________________________ > From: FLYFISHW@aol.com > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2004 2:01 PM > To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCROOTS] Mathis- Matthews/Gavin surnames in early 1800's > > Is anyone researching the Mathis/Matthews or Gavin surnames of Duplin County? > I am attempting to find a Mandria (or other spelling) Gavin who was born > about 1810 in Duplin County. > Any information, or suggestions would be appreciated. > Wanda Groves Kohlmann > > ______________________________ > From: "Gerri Ann" <gal@naxs.net> > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2004 5:22 PM > To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCROOTS] Divorce Records > > Checking North Carolina Vital Records I found divorce records go back to > 1958 only. > What happened to them before 1958. Would they be in the Archives? Surely > someplace in NC has records of divorces before 1958. > > Thanks for all help, > Gerri Ann > > ______________________________ > From: Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2004 5:45 PM > To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Divorce Records > > Hi Gerri Ann, > > Texas began recording divorces at the state level in 1968. And marriage > records in 1966. Any years before that, you have to go to the county clerk > where the marriage or divorce occurred. (And TX has 254 counties.) It > looks like North Carolina began recording divorces at the state level 10 > years before Texas did. > > Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> > > > Gerri Ann wrote: > >> Checking North Carolina Vital Records I found divorce records go back to >> 1958 only. >> What happened to them before 1958. Would they be in the Archives? Surely >> someplace in NC has records of divorces before 1958. >> >> Thanks for all help, >> Gerri Ann > I found my ggrandfather's 1886 divorce papers in the State Archives. Beverly

Searching for mother and father of Edith Ann Ivy or Ivey. In the cenus of 1880 she states her father was from North Carolina. Do not know name of her father, but suspect it was James. Any one having any N. C. Ivey or Ivy information on a girl named Edith born around this time, please email me at southerngirl441@hotmail.com. THanks Kathy _________________________________________________________________ Keep up with high-tech trends here at "Hook'd on Technology." http://special.msn.com/msnbc/hookedontech.armx

>Checking North Carolina Vital Records I found divorce records go back to >1958 only. >What happened to them before 1958. Would they be in the Archives? Surely >someplace in NC has records of divorces before 1958. > Divorce records have been kept at the county level in NC since 1814, as part of the records of the Superior Courts in each county. Prior to 1814, and for some divorces between 1814 and 1835, they were recorded at the state level. The state archives in Raleigh has an index to these records. -- Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://www.fmoran.com/

Checking North Carolina Vital Records I found divorce records go back to 1958 only. What happened to them before 1958. Would they be in the Archives? Surely someplace in NC has records of divorces before 1958. Thanks for all help, Gerri Ann

Hi Gerri Ann, Texas began recording divorces at the state level in 1968. And marriage records in 1966. Any years before that, you have to go to the county clerk where the marriage or divorce occurred. (And TX has 254 counties.) It looks like North Carolina began recording divorces at the state level 10 years before Texas did. Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> Gerri Ann wrote: > Checking North Carolina Vital Records I found divorce records go back to > 1958 only. > What happened to them before 1958. Would they be in the Archives? Surely > someplace in NC has records of divorces before 1958. > > Thanks for all help, > Gerri Ann

Is anyone researching the Mathis/Matthews or Gavin surnames of Duplin County? I am attempting to find a Mandria (or other spelling) Gavin who was born about 1810 in Duplin County. Any information, or suggestions would be appreciated. Wanda Groves Kohlmann

Looking for information on a Joseph Calhoun born N C approx 1807 (1850 census has him listed as 43 yrs. old.) It is noted in some "family research" he was married to an Elizabeth Perkins born N C approx. 1801 (1850 census has her listed as 49 yrs old) Elizabeth's mother's name may have been Nancy and Later he was to have married her sister Sarah Perkins Is anyone researching this family I am trying to tie them in with a Huggins family if possible. Two Huggins children Robert b 1839 and Ellen born 1841 in Alabama are listed as living with jJoseph Calhoun and Elizabeth in the 1850's census. If any one can help I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance Barbara in Louisiana email address: homelybin@aol.comn

Looking for information on a James Calhoun born N C approx 1807 (1850 census has him listed as 43 yrs. old.) It is noted in some "family research" he was married to an Elizabeth Perkins born N C approx. 1801 (1850 census has her listed as 49 yrs old) Elizabeth's mother's name may have been Nancy and Later he was to have married her sister Sarah Perkins Is anyone researching this family I am trying to tie them in with a Huggins family if possible. Two Huggins children Robert b 1839 and Ellen born 1841 in Alabama are listed as living with James Calhoun and Elizabeth in the 1850's census. If any one can help I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance Barbara in Louisiana email address: homelybin@aol.com

I don't know if I have mentioned this on the "lists" or not but I am sure that all of the people that have so graciously helped create this site would find it fitting for all the genealogical libraries and other libraries that has a genealogical sections to download and create books for the libraries from this webpage. I would think it a great honor just as long as it wasn't used for profit. The more it is available the more useful it will be. It is located at http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd Anyone have complaints or anything to say. Bill

Hi there - I have *just* begun a page for adding photos of Mecklenburg County ancestors. I need to locate photos now - so if you have one you would like to contribute let me know. You can send a scan of the photo or even a color copy and I will scan it. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncmeckl2/ Glad to have assistance with this little project. (Data is welcome too!) Christina Genealogy of Mecklenburg County (AHGP).