Goodbye, Good luck, and God bless you. A pox on all your houses, especially Barbara's. Joyce B in TN

I have just joined this list in the past few days and I am so impressed by the members who support their fellow researches. My Griffins moved from Cumberland County North Carolina to Alabama about 1839. My great great great grandfather was Thomas Griffin, married Nancy Stewart and moved to Henry County Alabama. Family lore says that General Griffin is his father, General being his given name. There are Land Patents in the Coosa County Alabama and Jackson County Florida area that shows General W. Griffin owned land there. At first it was believed that this General Griffin was the father of Thomas, but now we think he may have been a son. Our Griffins were in North Carolina in 1803 until 1839. Family given names are General, Thomas, Hardy, Dempsey, Bryant, Joseph, William, and John. It could be that the father never left North Carolina. Is there anyone who has information that would help me? Roberta Childs

I thought I'd send this along. Merry Christmas, all! --Ruth Corn Roy Kinsman (original poem by Wayne Hand, 1999) > > > Alas, my elusive kinsman > You've led me quite a chase > I thought I'd found your courthouse > But the Yankees burned the place. > You always kept your bags packed > Although you had no fame, and > Just for the fun of it > Twice you changed your name. > You never owed any man, or > At least I found no bills > In spite of eleven offspring > You never left a will. > They say our name's from Europe > Came state side on a ship > Either they lost the passenger list > Or granddad gave them the slip. > I'm the only one looking > Another searcher I can't find > I pray (maybe that's his fathers name) > As I go out of my mind. > They said you had a headstone > In a shady plot > I've been there twenty times, and > Can't even find the lot. > You never wrote a letter > Your Bible we can't find > It's probably in some attic > Out of sight and out of mind. > You first married a .....Smith > And just to set the tone > The other four were Sarahs > And everyone a Jones. > You cost me two fortunes > One of which I did not have > My wife, my house and Fido > God, how I miss that yellow lab. > But somewhere you slipped up, > Ole Boy, Somewhere you left a track > And if I don't find you this year > Well...... Next year I'll be back! >

Barbara I have no complaint with you you're doing a great job but due to the constant bickering and lack of genealogy work I would like to unscribe for a while until things calm down where do I go later to rescribe

Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought everyone could use this info. I received this on another list to which I subscribe. I have already taken some advantage of the free access with Ancestry.com -- copying and pasting information to my computer for later use (when it's no longer free). Thought I'd pass this along to all of you. Happy holidays! --Ruth Corn Roy - ---------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: For those of you who don't already know- Ancestry.com http://www.ancestry.com FamilyTreeMaker's GenealogyLibrary.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/_glc_/ Everton Publishers - "Records Available on Everton's On-Line Search" http://emh.everton.com/subscribers/magazine/main.html are all giving free access to their entire sites starting December 20, 1999. Ancestry's ends January 4, 2000 and FTM's is for a week and Everton ends 12/31/99. Fran Namotka

Hi everyone, I sent away for this Social Security Application on a hunch that didn't pan out. If anyone would like a copy of it, I can scan it and send it. John Mills S.S. # 244-10-9279 Charlotte, NC born July 11, 1888 negro/male Happy Holidays, Cindy in Michigan

Hi everyone, Thank goodness everything is getting back to normal - time to get back to what we're all about - great, helpful, genealogy researchers. I have in my resources, the 1850 census for NC, KY, VA., the 1870 census M-593, for GA, IL, IN, MO, NC, SC, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV. I will be happy to do free lookups for members of this list and will also be offering the same to the NCROOTS@onelist.com. Please bear with me in getting back to you. Might take me awhile depending on the amount of queries and the Holidays, but I will definitely reply. If you would like a lookup, please let me know Surname, and (if known) Given Name, County, Approx. Age, Anglo, Afro, Native American, State of Birth. I will not take up the lists time with posting individual surname info. to the list, so please be sure to leave your personal e-mail address. Wishing each and everyone a very Happy, Healthy Holiday Season. Ruth Mathis in NC e-mail: RLugowski@aol.com

In a message dated 12/19/1999 8:25:10 PM Central Standard Time, NCROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > elizabeth certainly couldn't have been expected to owe anyone an apology > for someone else's incredibly rude and uncalled for behavior. I agree. I was one of those who received a chastisement from the temp, and I certainly don't hold Elizabeth responsible for the delusions of grandeur suffered by her replacement. Let's move on. Welcome back, Neal. Joyce B in TN

I show a John BREWER married Keziah JOHNSON in Chatham Co., NC on September 5, 1817. Ruth in NC e-mail: RLugowski@aol.com Rootsweb Sponsor

I joined this list for genealogy information not bickering. Please unsubscribe me. Myra SWENSON Bettis <A HREF="http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/burnaby/1077/">http://www.fort unecity.com/meltingpot/burnaby/1077/</A> Elmore, Lawson, Pruett, Swenson, Holtkamp, Bettis, Cannon, Stepp, etc.

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In a message dated 12/19/99 10:30:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, rocky2@fuse.net writes: << There is/was a nice lady posting the 1790 Rutherford co. NC census data to the list. I was very interested in these. Is she still posting them? I haven't seen one posted lately and was wondering if she is still on this list? >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes I'm still posting but the holidays have gotten me busy working more typing less. If /when I ever stop I will finish the county. Also let the list know. Alice Ohlsson Tatum Frendlysky@aol.com

Looking for an ADAMS that married an Elizabeth abt 1820. Thanks, Jim

Can anyone please tell me who his parents were and who his wife might have been? He had four children. Any help appreciated. Van Davis

Whos running the site Barbara? If so and this is the way you do things. Then you can unsubscribe me from this list and I will make trips to Ashe Co, the state archives to do my research. I will also go to Neals list. An any one but a list run by someone that act like you. An I say this because if the emails are true that you blocked Elizabeth Harris from taking her list back then you are worse then the witch with spells. Because Im ___ well not getting any research material from this list as its currently running. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dkjones Searching: Arnold, Gilley, Hartzog, Jones, Pennington Lines Dave Jones

I wish all of you who are obsessed about who is managing the list would unsubscribe. I have seen this mess on other lists, and it is tiresome. Anyway about half of it is probably a hoax anyway. I have serious research that I am trying to do with limited time in which to do it. All some are you are doing is demonstrating why most serious genealogist will not research on the internet. I am tired of hitting the delete button for most of the messages on NCRoots-List. Unsubscribe quietly please. You do not need to tell the list that you are going or that you are returning. Please give some of us a break. Franklin

I sent this e-mail to Elizabeth during the thick of things. As you see, she did respond to me on the 18th Dec. with intentions of resuming her position and duties as list owner. This, I consider a most unholy act by a temporary list moderator to perpetuate a hostile take over of someone else's work. This is the first time I have ever seen such a sickening thing happen on any list. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Feliz Navidad y Bien Venidos Años Joyeux Noël et Heureuse Anne Nollaig Shona Duit Kaththea J. Borland-Mills MILLSBORKA@worldnet.att.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccumber/berckman.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccumber/jmaciver.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Harris <ncgen@mindspring.com> To: ELWOOD MILLS <MILLSBORKA@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 9:38 AM Subject: Re: > >Eliazbeth, > >It is time for you to make an appearance to the NCROOTS list. > > > >Kaththea > >MILLSBORKA@worldnet.att.net > > > I'm just back from ten days in England, and will be resuming control of the > list today. > > > Elizabeth Harris > state coordinator, NCGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > > >

Dear List This is getting ridiculous now. When the list manager is unsubscribed and this is apparently allowed to happen without recourse. The people who subscribed to this list did so for the help and exchange of researching tips, Not to be jacked around and had mind games played on them. Does anyone know why Barbara no longer had the list when Elizabeth received it?? Read the archives, might find the answer there. There are a few alternative lists I can go to for the NC research. And it is just research not this crap. Debbie Carter

Dear List I am sure I will be bounced for this but, in view of all the recent developments nothing would surprise me. Whether or not Neal is reinstated is not a topic for our discussion anymore. The powers that be will decide regardless of our pleas or wishes. I joined this list for the fine genealogic benefits and to research my family lines. I have lurked and watched for almost 3 weeks of constant bickering about some topic or other and none of it having very much to do with genealogy. Can't we please just return to what made the list great to begin with. And Elizabeth, if what I read earlier is true that the temp will not return the password, can't you submit to the rootsweb people for a change in passwords? I can on my lists that I administer. Debbie Carter

Well put Jean and I agree 100%!! Regards, Belinda savadge@alltel.net http://www.genealogybin.com/ -----Original Message----- From: theshadow <theshadow@glade.net> To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Welcome Back Elizabeth Harris >My goodness, shall we "draw and quarter" her while we're at it? Grow up >people. You can't "undo" what has been done. Get on with life and >genealogy. > >Deeds speak so much louder than all the words Elizabeth or her Temporary >Hostess can say. Give them time to reflect and make corrections as they see >fit----it is the listowner's list, after all. We are just members of one >small community----not the Lords and Ladies of the manor. > >This is the season of Peace and Goodwill toward our fellow man (and >woman)---practice what you are preaching, please. > >May God bless us each and every one... >Jean > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Scott" <publix69@hotmail.com> >To: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 8:33 AM >Subject: [NCROOTS] Welcome Back Elizabeth Harris > > >> Thank God you are back. I didn't think the list would even be here if you >> were to be away much longer. I hope you will put a stop to all of this >> madness. Please post a message to the list that will bring reconciliation >> and peace back. Also I think it is prudent that you spell out you was at >> fault and take remedies to correct the situation. I also think an apology >to >> the list for the ruthless behaviour of the temporary host is in order. >> John >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> ______________________________ > > >==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a message to >NCROOTS-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >with the one word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >