Would love to know how Mount Hardy got it's name!!!! belinda melton hughes www.geocities.com/bjhughes.geo/ > A forgotten memorial returns to the spotlight > > Retired ranger discoversthe special purposeof a stand of spruces > By DAVID PERLMUTT > Jim Holbrook worked 33 years for the U.S. Forest Service, and during that > time pulled off at the Mount Hardy Overlook, Milepost 422 along the Blue > Ridge Parkway, probably a couple of hundred times.Each time, he'd look for a > view of Mount Hardy, but never saw the peak rising 6,100 feet. A grove of red > spruce trees, mixed with other species, was always in the way. How stupid, > he'd often think, to have all these trees blocking the view - one day he'd > suggest the trees be cleared.It's a good thing he never did.One winter night > a month after he retired in January 2000, Holbrook was reading a history on > the area and nearly fell out of bed when he came across an obscure, short > sentence buried in the middle of a page.The red spruces, he discovered, were > part of a forest memorial to the 125,000 N.C. men who fought for the > Confederacy during the Civil War.It had become a lost memorial. But Saturday, > it will be forgotten no more, after the forest of 125,000 spruces planted as > seedlings in the early 1940s is rededicated with a new $700 bronze marker to > replace the original one stolen decades ago.The ceremony for the Confederate > Memorial Forest starts at 10 a.m. at the parkway's Milepost 422 south of > Waynesville in Haywood County."I'd never heard of a memorial forest, and I > asked people older than me (including his 82-year-old father) if they'd ever > heard about it, but nobody knew a thing," said Holbrook, 62, who lives in the > Buncombe County town of Avery Creek, seven miles south of Asheville. He is > commander of the Zeb Vance Camp 15 of the Sons of Confederate Veterans."I > thought, `Lord, what if somebody had taken down those trees.' I had to launch > a search."Historical research > > With contacts from work, the search didn't take long. Another forester with a > bent for history found documents explaining the memorial.There's a > slow-growing, long-living red spruce for every N.C. soldier who served the > cause. The N.C. division of the United Daughters of the Confederacy paid $625 > to buy the seedlings in 1940. The Forest Service planted them in 1941, '42 > and '43 - World War II slowed the planting - over 125 Haywood County acres in > Pisgah National Forest for an additional $741.29. The memorial runs along the > parkway for about half a mile.The trees now stand 50 feet tall. When the > original marker was dedicated 45 years ago - 14 years after the memorial's > official dedication - the trees were barely 7 feet tall. Most of the trees > had yet to poke through scrub hardwood that began to grow after the area was > cleared by timber companies and a 1925 fire that burned 25,000 acres."The > memorial was an effort to reforest land that had been cut over and then > burned over," said Cathy Williams, a UDC member from Asheville who remembers > hearing about the memorial from her mother."In the 1970s, our state president > was contacted by people building the parkway that the marker had been > vandalized and they wanted to know what we wanted to do about it."I see in > letters that the Daughters thought that if the marker is vandalized once, it > would likely be vandalized again. So, apparently, we just dropped the > ball."The dedication > > At the memorial's dedication in July 1942, Raleigh publisher and former Navy > Secretary Josephus Daniels was the main speaker at a luncheon at the George > Vanderbilt Hotel in Asheville.Seventy-seven years after the Civil War's end, > Daniels likened Reconstruction in the South to the plight of European nations > occupied then by Nazi troops. During the years just after the Civil War, > federal troops were sent to Southern states to keep order and oversee the > South's return to the Union. "The Southern people, aided by noble patriots in > the North, overcame military rule and regained control of their affairs," he > said."They have no doubt the suffering European nations will throw off rule > by force and once again order their own way of life." Saturday's rededication > will include speeches from politicians and officers from the UDC and Sons of > Confederate Veterans, which paid for the new marker. Descendants are expected > to attend.Williams and Holbrook will speak. Two trees among the memorial > represent Williams' great-grandfathers James Alexander Webb and John Shelby > Gragg, both of Buncombe County."Those trees make me proud and humbled," she > said.Another tree represents Holbrook's great-grandfather William Alexander > Holbrook, a dirt farmer from Macon County who was wounded badly at the battle > of Chickamauga in Georgia. He lay in a cornfield for three days, his head > resting on a corn hill to keep from drowning after hard rains flooded the > field.Years later, Holbrook's father told stories about the old man's leg > still draining from the wound because he refused to let doctors take the leg > or remove the bullet.If he'd lost his will to live, Jim Holbrook wouldn't be > here.That is why the memorial is so important to him and thousands of other > descendants."You walk down there, and you lay your hands on a tree and you > feel something," Holbrook said."You feel heat in your heart. You know it's > hallowed ground, and it will not be lost anymore."David Perlmutt: (704) > 358-5061; <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>.The Civil War and North Carolina > Last state: On Feb. 28, 1861, North Carolinians voted down a convention on > secession from the Union. Six weeks after the Civil War began, North Carolina > on May 20, 1861, became the last state to join the Confederacy. The common > refrain: N.C. troops were "First at Bethel. Foremost at Gettysburg. Furthest > at Chickamauga. The last at Appomattox." The numbers: The 125,000 North > Carolinians who fought for the Confederacy represented a fifth of all > Southern troops. The number was larger than the state's eligible voters. More > than 40,000 N.C. troops died, about a fourth of Confederates killed in the > war. It was double the loss of any other Southern state. The general: > Concerned about his family's safety in Virginia, Gen. Robert E. Lee sent his > wife and four daughters to White Sulphur Springs in Warren County, north of > Raleigh, in October 1862. His daughter Annie Carter Lee died shortly after > arriving, and for years was buried there until Lee's descendants had her > remains returned to Virginia in 1994. Friendly fire: Gen. Stonewall Jackson, > the Confederacy's master tactician, was mistakenly shot by troops from the > 18th N.C. Regiment. He died eight days later on May 10, 1863, of pneumonia. > Salisbury Prison: On Nov. 6, 1864, the number of Union captives at a prison > built for 2,500 prisoners reached a peak of 8,740. Many slept outdoors, > digging trenches to shield them from the cold. It was the Confederacy's > second-largest prison, behind Andersonville in Georgia. More than 4,000 > prisoners died in Salisbury, twice the population of the town. Tar Heels: > Writing in 1864 from a camp near Petersburg, Va., Maj. Joseph Engelhard > quoted Lee as saying that N.C. troops "stand as if they have tar on their > heels." > > > Joy for Ruth > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > Availability of will records in the NC state archives: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/wills.txt -- BJ's Genealogy Site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/7241/index.html BJ's Craft Page http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/2342/crafts/clinks.html BJ's Poetry Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/7241/poetry.html

If I recall my directions, it's north of I-40 (which runs east & west) and northeast of Hickory, NC. It's about 50 miles west of Winston-Salem. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia H Porcher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: [NCROOTS] Taylorville, NC > Can anyone tell me where Taylorville is/was located? I have a clipping about > a Watts family reunion held there in 1925 on an old Watts homeplace. The > homeplace was a pasture in 1925, so it's probably a parking lot today. I > would really like to be able to find some records that would help me trace > the family there. > > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > Map set, formation of NC Counties: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm >

A forgotten memorial returns to the spotlight Retired ranger discoversthe special purposeof a stand of spruces By DAVID PERLMUTT Jim Holbrook worked 33 years for the U.S. Forest Service, and during that time pulled off at the Mount Hardy Overlook, Milepost 422 along the Blue Ridge Parkway, probably a couple of hundred times.Each time, he'd look for a view of Mount Hardy, but never saw the peak rising 6,100 feet. A grove of red spruce trees, mixed with other species, was always in the way. How stupid, he'd often think, to have all these trees blocking the view - one day he'd suggest the trees be cleared.It's a good thing he never did.One winter night a month after he retired in January 2000, Holbrook was reading a history on the area and nearly fell out of bed when he came across an obscure, short sentence buried in the middle of a page.The red spruces, he discovered, were part of a forest memorial to the 125,000 N.C. men who fought for the Confederacy during the Civil War.It had become a lost memorial. But Saturday, it will be forgotten no more, after the forest of 125,000 spruces planted as seedlings in the early 1940s is rededicated with a new $700 bronze marker to replace the original one stolen decades ago.The ceremony for the Confederate Memorial Forest starts at 10 a.m. at the parkway's Milepost 422 south of Waynesville in Haywood County."I'd never heard of a memorial forest, and I asked people older than me (including his 82-year-old father) if they'd ever heard about it, but nobody knew a thing," said Holbrook, 62, who lives in the Buncombe County town of Avery Creek, seven miles south of Asheville. He is commander of the Zeb Vance Camp 15 of the Sons of Confederate Veterans."I thought, `Lord, what if somebody had taken down those trees.' I had to launch a search."Historical research With contacts from work, the search didn't take long. Another forester with a bent for history found documents explaining the memorial.There's a slow-growing, long-living red spruce for every N.C. soldier who served the cause. The N.C. division of the United Daughters of the Confederacy paid $625 to buy the seedlings in 1940. The Forest Service planted them in 1941, '42 and '43 - World War II slowed the planting - over 125 Haywood County acres in Pisgah National Forest for an additional $741.29. The memorial runs along the parkway for about half a mile.The trees now stand 50 feet tall. When the original marker was dedicated 45 years ago - 14 years after the memorial's official dedication - the trees were barely 7 feet tall. Most of the trees had yet to poke through scrub hardwood that began to grow after the area was cleared by timber companies and a 1925 fire that burned 25,000 acres."The memorial was an effort to reforest land that had been cut over and then burned over," said Cathy Williams, a UDC member from Asheville who remembers hearing about the memorial from her mother."In the 1970s, our state president was contacted by people building the parkway that the marker had been vandalized and they wanted to know what we wanted to do about it."I see in letters that the Daughters thought that if the marker is vandalized once, it would likely be vandalized again. So, apparently, we just dropped the ball."The dedication At the memorial's dedication in July 1942, Raleigh publisher and former Navy Secretary Josephus Daniels was the main speaker at a luncheon at the George Vanderbilt Hotel in Asheville.Seventy-seven years after the Civil War's end, Daniels likened Reconstruction in the South to the plight of European nations occupied then by Nazi troops. During the years just after the Civil War, federal troops were sent to Southern states to keep order and oversee the South's return to the Union. "The Southern people, aided by noble patriots in the North, overcame military rule and regained control of their affairs," he said."They have no doubt the suffering European nations will throw off rule by force and once again order their own way of life." Saturday's rededication will include speeches from politicians and officers from the UDC and Sons of Confederate Veterans, which paid for the new marker. Descendants are expected to attend.Williams and Holbrook will speak. Two trees among the memorial represent Williams' great-grandfathers James Alexander Webb and John Shelby Gragg, both of Buncombe County."Those trees make me proud and humbled," she said.Another tree represents Holbrook's great-grandfather William Alexander Holbrook, a dirt farmer from Macon County who was wounded badly at the battle of Chickamauga in Georgia. He lay in a cornfield for three days, his head resting on a corn hill to keep from drowning after hard rains flooded the field.Years later, Holbrook's father told stories about the old man's leg still draining from the wound because he refused to let doctors take the leg or remove the bullet.If he'd lost his will to live, Jim Holbrook wouldn't be here.That is why the memorial is so important to him and thousands of other descendants."You walk down there, and you lay your hands on a tree and you feel something," Holbrook said."You feel heat in your heart. You know it's hallowed ground, and it will not be lost anymore."David Perlmutt: (704) 358-5061; <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>.The Civil War and North Carolina Last state: On Feb. 28, 1861, North Carolinians voted down a convention on secession from the Union. Six weeks after the Civil War began, North Carolina on May 20, 1861, became the last state to join the Confederacy. The common refrain: N.C. troops were "First at Bethel. Foremost at Gettysburg. Furthest at Chickamauga. The last at Appomattox." The numbers: The 125,000 North Carolinians who fought for the Confederacy represented a fifth of all Southern troops. The number was larger than the state's eligible voters. More than 40,000 N.C. troops died, about a fourth of Confederates killed in the war. It was double the loss of any other Southern state. The general: Concerned about his family's safety in Virginia, Gen. Robert E. Lee sent his wife and four daughters to White Sulphur Springs in Warren County, north of Raleigh, in October 1862. His daughter Annie Carter Lee died shortly after arriving, and for years was buried there until Lee's descendants had her remains returned to Virginia in 1994. Friendly fire: Gen. Stonewall Jackson, the Confederacy's master tactician, was mistakenly shot by troops from the 18th N.C. Regiment. He died eight days later on May 10, 1863, of pneumonia. Salisbury Prison: On Nov. 6, 1864, the number of Union captives at a prison built for 2,500 prisoners reached a peak of 8,740. Many slept outdoors, digging trenches to shield them from the cold. It was the Confederacy's second-largest prison, behind Andersonville in Georgia. More than 4,000 prisoners died in Salisbury, twice the population of the town. Tar Heels: Writing in 1864 from a camp near Petersburg, Va., Maj. Joseph Engelhard quoted Lee as saying that N.C. troops "stand as if they have tar on their heels." Joy for Ruth

Can anyone tell me where Taylorville is/was located? I have a clipping about a Watts family reunion held there in 1925 on an old Watts homeplace. The homeplace was a pasture in 1925, so it's probably a parking lot today. I would really like to be able to find some records that would help me trace the family there.

Hi, Ellen: You might try Pat Nelson <[email protected]>. I know that she has done this type of work before for out of towners and she might still be doing it. Later, Rob [email protected] wrote: > > Can anyone suggest to me an individual with access to the Raleigh Archive > Records who would be willing to retrieve specific records? This would be on > a mutually agreed upon fee basis plus copy costs, etc. > > I will appreciate your consideration. Ellen > > - - - Robert G. Lewis EMAIL: [email protected] Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society

Try this listing for Board of Certification of Genealogists in NC: http://www.bcgcertification.org/rosts_nc.html There are also some NC researchers listed here: http://www.iowa-counties.com/gene/nc.htm Good luck! Alison ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: [NCROOTS] Researcher Needed > Can anyone suggest to me an individual with access to the Raleigh Archive > Records who would be willing to retrieve specific records? This would be on > a mutually agreed upon fee basis plus copy costs, etc. > > I will appreciate your consideration. Ellen > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > Availability of will records in the NC state archives: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/wills.txt > >

In a message dated 01-08-10 20:42:06 EDT, [email protected] writes: << Can anyone suggest to me an individual with access to the Raleigh Archive Records who would be willing to retrieve specific records? >> Suprisingly there's no one listed who does research specifically in NC, though some have access to various NC records, as well as some with access to the National Archives...not sure if this helps you but you could check out what is at: http://khuish.tripod.com/research.html <A HREF="http://khuish.tripod.com/research.html">Genealogy Researcher's List</A> Good luck in your search! Kathy http://khuish.tripod.com/northc.htm (North Carolina Genealogy Links)

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Can anyone suggest to me an individual with access to the Raleigh Archive Records who would be willing to retrieve specific records? This would be on a mutually agreed upon fee basis plus copy costs, etc. I will appreciate your consideration. Ellen

Hi all, The Cleveland County Obituary Search Engine has been updated and expanded with hundreds more obits indexed. Just go to http://www.obitcentral.com and choose "Obituary Archive Search Engine" from the list of options. Bill Cribbs Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com GenDirectory.com http://www.gendirectory.com

Looking for the parents of JOSEPH W. BAKER born September 1822 in NC, and died September 05, 1901 in Panola Co.,MS. He married MARY HARRIS Abt. 1850, she died February 12, 1917 in Panola Co.,MS. Children of JOSEPH BAKER and MARY HARRIS are: i. DORA2 BAKER, b. 1853; d. Unknown; ii. WYLEY BAKER, b. February 07, 1855; d. September 18, 1898, Panola Co.,MS; iii. VICTORIA BAKER, b. January 01, 1858; d. January 11, 1944, Panola Co.,MS. iv. WALTER BAKER, b. June 11, 1866, Mississippi; d. May 02, 1911, Panola Co.,MS v. WILLIE BAKER, b. 1874; d. Unknown; According to the 1870 Census both of Joseph BAKER's parents were from North Carolina. We believe Joseph's middle name is Wylie. May have a younger brother Ephriam Henry BAKER who went with him to MS around 1850. Appreciate any help anyone can give. Deb Helmer [email protected] <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jstubblefield/jerome/jeromeindex.htm">JEROME,BAKER,ALLEN and CLEMENT Families</A>

Hi, Joy: It appears that there are three creeks in Cabarrus county that carry that name: Irish Buffalo and Dutch Buffalo and Little Buffalo. Irish Buffalo appears to rise in Iredell County just north of Kannapolis and Kannapolis Lake is formed on its headwaters. The creek then flows through the western part of Kannapolis sse to join the Rocky River. Dutch Buffalo appears to also rise in Iredell County to the east of Kannapolis and flows se and south to join the Rocky River at the point where the Rocky River makes an approx. 90 degree turn to the south. Little Buffalo also rises in Iredell even farther east than does Dutch Buffalo and flows south and joins Dutch Buffalo ne of Mount Pleasant. This is from my 1993 edition of North Carolina Atlas and Gazetteer by DeLorme Mapping. Hope this helps. Rob [email protected] wrote: > > DOES ANYONE HAVE A MAP OF CABARRUS CO THAT SHOWS BUFFALO CREEK? > WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU DID. > THANKS, > JOY > - - - Robert G. Lewis EMAIL: [email protected] Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society

Hi cp, Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System: http://www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/ Bill Allen <[email protected]> [email protected] wrote: > > I lost the web site published yesterday. Can someone e mail me. Thank You, cp

DOES ANYONE HAVE A MAP OF CABARRUS CO THAT SHOWS BUFFALO CREEK? WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU DID. THANKS, JOY

June, you might want to keep in mind that all states are not posted yet, i. e., AL & GA Confeds not there yet. Bennie ---------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.netpathway.com/~bennie/index.html Southern Ancestral Trails: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/SATrails Yesterday's Memories and Trivia: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/YESMET > Subject: [NCROOTS] CIVIL WAR SOLDIERS AND SAILORS SYSTEM**ALL WADES IN CIVIL WAR LISTED > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:43:44 -0400 > From: "june" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Subject: CIVIL WAR SOLDIERS AND SAILORS SYSTEM**ALL WADES IN CIVIL WAR > LISTED > > hi everyone, i found this site, i thought maybe it might help someone, it > has links to cemeteries, battles, soldiers, sailors, prisoners, medals of > honor, regiments and national parks. when i pulled up the soldiers search > page, i had great success when i put in the last name in the last name field > and left the first name and state empty and it searched the entire u.s. it > pulled up 559 wades that were in the civil war, what state they were from > and regiment they were in and which side they were on and what they did, > such as infantry or calvary. very good site! june > > http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/index.html > > ______________________________ > >

I lost the web site published yesterday. Can someone e mail me. Thank You, cp

The below site has interesting information on the early Gold Mining Towns in NC. <A HREF="http://www.dei.net/epgpa/nc.htm">North Carolina Gold Deposits</A> (aol users - click underline) http://www.dei.net/epgpa/nc.htm (other - copy & paste) Beginning of article: NORTH CAROLINA North Carolina, which has produced more gold than any of the other Southeastern States, has many gold mines arranged in zones within two physiographic provinces--the Piedmont and the Blue Ridge. Most of the deposits and the most productive mines are in the Piedmont province in Mecklenburg, Rowan, Cabarrus, and Davidson Counties. Deposits in the Blue Ridge province are in Burke and Transylvania Counties Ruth in NC

Hello........... Cannot thank you enough for the Civil War Soldier site...........it is wonderful. I have forwarded to a million people.. Joy

DAVIDSON COUNTY - NC The Cid district is an area of about 125 square miles in southern Davidson County that extends from the Yadkin River on the southwest to about a mile beyond the village of Cid on the northeast. The earliest record of activity in this district is in 1832 at which time the Conrad Hill mine was already producing. The Silver Hill mine began operation a few years later. Other important mines in the district were the Cid and the Emmons. Except for the Civil War period when the mines were closed, most of the activity of the Cid district occurred before 1885. Ruth in NC

Hi, Pat: According to William S. Powell's The North Carolina GAZETTEER, Cid was/is located in Davidson County. However, Cid, NC, was not established until 1885 and I don't know of one in 1880. Today, Cid is a crossroads where Regan Road crosses Raleigh Road just west of highway NC 109 south of highway US 64. This point is north of Denton, South of Thomasville, southeast of Lexington and west of Asheboro. Hope this helps. RichardSmith wrote: > > Hi, > I am trying to locate the county that Cid, NC was located in in 1880. > > I hope that someone can direct me to a map for that time period. > > Thank you for any help that you can send my way. > > Pat Smith in PA -- ROB Robert G. Lewis EMAIL: [email protected] Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society