Teresa, I notice that you put John Collier who was married to Sarah Horton in the Surry County Colliers as a son of Joseph and Jane (Halso) Collier. You should look at Joseph Collier's will. He left his son John 100 acres of land "where he now liveth -- Caleb Ellis Line-- In Deed Book 8, pg. 775 dated 7 Dec. 1738 - we find - John Collier of the Province of North Carolina, Bertie Precinct-- sold to Henry Berry--- 100 acres of land, part of a certain tract of land granted to his father--- willed by Joseph Collier to his son, John Collier--beginning at a pocosin -Cabel Ellis Line-- Signed John Collier Note Cabel Ellis Line in both the will and the deed transfer. Also that his John Collier lived in North Carolina, Bertie Precinct in 1738. Now look at Deed Book K, Pg. 122 Brunswick Co., VA dated 30 Nov. 1741. William Gower and his wife of Bru. County sold John Collier of PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, VA 200 acres of land on the North side of Three Creek, Reedy Branch- John Jackson line -----. This John Collier's wife was Sarah Horton. They lived on this land until John died in 1768, We do not know who this John's parents were. We did a lot of work on the Surry Families when we were compiling the book we wrote in 1991 "Some Collier Families Decendants of John Collier and Sarah Horton-1741-1991" I still don't know who our John Collier's parents were. I wish I did. He and Sarah are two of my GGG Grandparents. I hope the above may help you. Teresa, I am aware of the work Paul Arnot did on the Collier Family. I have two copies of his work written at different times. I believe he was wrong placing John Collier with a wife, Sarah Horton in the Surry County Collier Family. Leroy [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:16 PM Subject: [NCROOTS] N'Hmpt - Lebanon Church records ? > Hello, > Does anyone on the list have information on the Lebanon Methodist > Church that was/is located east of Gaston in Northampton Co ? > I am wondering if any early church records exist, prior to 1800 ? I > know the church was in existence in 1807, but don't know if it was > there earlier. This is part of a (desperate) search for marriage > records of the MEACHAM and COLLIER families of early Northampton Co NC > as well as any information on Henry Meacham JR, who deeded a meeting > house to six trustees of the church in 1807. > Thanks for any help. > > Teresa Shands > > Hostess: > http://GenNetwork.org > Family pages and databases: > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~terishands > http://www.skipworthcousins.ourfamily.com > http://www.gencircles.com/users/tshan/1 > http://terisha4.tripod.com/colliergensite/ > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > [email protected] > (or [email protected] for digest mode" > Put the one word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > It helps to leave the subject line blank, or put UNSUBSCRIBE there also. > >

Dellinger 16th Annual Reunion Sept. 29 and 30th. 2001 The Dellinger clan will hold their 16th annual reunion Sept.29 & 30 th. As usual we will have a variety of interesting events planned. Please plan to attend encourage other Dellinger and Dellinger descendents to attend. On Sat Sept 29, we will tour some of the Dellinger homestead and visit some of the cemetery in western Lincoln county we will meet at the Lincoln county library at 9:00 am (Last year we toured the eastern part of Lincoln County.) Sun. 30th we will meet at the Laboratory United Methodist Church three miles south of Lincolnton corner of Laboratory and Confederate Road for lunch and fellowship. Please bring a dish. As always this will be a meal to remember. For travelers there are several Deli's and Kentucky Fried Chicken and Bo-Jangles in Lincolnton.We will provide paper goods. After the meal we will have an auction to help defray the cost. Please bring items to donate to the auction. Also please bring your old photographs, books, Bibles Family Papers and memorabilia to show. For more info call Neal Caskey 704-276-1004 Or Paul Dellinger 704-735-6561

At 01:31 PM 9/8/01 -0700, Faye wrote: Where can I find information on the districts in Northampton County and where they were located? I am interested in these districts: Sikes Vincents Bennetts Duprees Andrews >>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of districts are these, as well as where are they? I checked and they did not become townships. My interest comes from the fact that one or more generations of my wife's family, Sikes, lived in North Hampton Co NC, as they moved from SE VA through North Hampton -> Halifax -> Guilford. Good Luck! Keep Looking; keep finding! David Huffines Searching Hofheintz/Huffines/Huffhines/Hoffein/et al Also Paisley, Sikes, Underwood, Williamson, Wakefield.

Where can I find information on the districts in Northampton County and where they were located? I am interested in these districts: Sikes Vincents Bennetts Duprees Andrews Thanks Faye

I believe in the freedom of speech and I gave 4 years of my life fighting to protect it. However, that does not give persons freedom to yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre. The chairman of the board would rule out of order any person who chose to proclaim his/her beliefs, no matter how true and agreeable, if they were not a part of the purpose of the meeting. Thanks, Elizabeth, for being a good chairperson. Let's keep our list on its purpose! Find another list dedicated to politics or whatever your thing is. Good Luck! Keep Looking; keep finding! David Huffines Searching Hofheintz/Huffines/Huffhines/Hoffein/et al Also Paisley, Sikes, Underwood, Williamson, Wakefield.

I have a new email address, dont the aol one after 09/09/01. thank you Bobby On Christ the solid rock I stand all other ground is sinking sand.

Hi Everyone, I'm new on this list. I'm searching for Boldigpas, NC. I didn't find it on the map as either a town or a county, so I assume it is a small community, or no longer in existance, or misspelled. Can anyone help? Elayne Pair Gibbons Pair family - any time - any place - <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pairplace2/index.htm">Pair Place</A>

Thanks,Elizabeth Harris,for redirecting our focus to what we signed on to this list for. Diane R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Michael Canon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [NCROOTS] Social Security > Elizabeth, > > I'm sorry that you felt compelled to post an equally irrelevant NCROOTS > message > to the mailing list. What about NCROOTS can anyone learn from your > message? > The only thing it conveys to me is intolerance for others. "Ann" may be > guilty of > posting a single "off topic" message to the mailing list but at least her > posting > carried valuable information that is relevant for all American citizens. > I think her > posting may be an exercise of free speech "without a NCROOTS permit" and I > suppose we should all thank you for serving as our thought police but > frankly > I'm very thankful for the information that she posted. It certainly > contains just > as much NCROOTS information as your snippy, and rather rude, posting. > > Elizabeth Harris wrote: > > > This is not appropriate for NCROOTS, and does not need to be discussed > > further here. > > > > Elizabeth Harris > > > > NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > > Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://users.erols.com/fmoran/ > > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > > USGenWeb Archives Census Project - North Carolina > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/northcar/northcar.htm > > -- > Why is mathematics so unreasonably effective? > Eugene Paul Wigner > > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > [email protected] > (or [email protected] for digest mode" > Put the one word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > It helps to leave the subject line blank, or put UNSUBSCRIBE there also. >

Elizabeth, I'm sorry that you felt compelled to post an equally irrelevant NCROOTS message to the mailing list. What about NCROOTS can anyone learn from your message? The only thing it conveys to me is intolerance for others. "Ann" may be guilty of posting a single "off topic" message to the mailing list but at least her posting carried valuable information that is relevant for all American citizens. I think her posting may be an exercise of free speech "without a NCROOTS permit" and I suppose we should all thank you for serving as our thought police but frankly I'm very thankful for the information that she posted. It certainly contains just as much NCROOTS information as your snippy, and rather rude, posting. Elizabeth Harris wrote: > This is not appropriate for NCROOTS, and does not need to be discussed > further here. > > Elizabeth Harris > > NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://users.erols.com/fmoran/ > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project - North Carolina > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/northcar/northcar.htm -- Why is mathematics so unreasonably effective? Eugene Paul Wigner

This is not appropriate for NCROOTS, and does not need to be discussed further here. Elizabeth Harris NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://users.erols.com/fmoran/

Social Security This is worth reading, short and to the point! Our Senators/Congressmen do not pay into Social Security, and, therefore they do not collect from it. Social Security benefits were not suitable for them. They felt they should have a special plan. Many years ago they voted in their benefit plan. In more recent years, no congress person has felt the need to change it. After all, it is a great plan. For all practical purposes, their plan works like this: When they retire no matter how long they have been in office, they continue to draw their same pay until they die, except it may be increased from time to time by the cost-of-living adjustments. For example, former Senator Bill Bradley (New Jersey) and his wife may be expected to draw $7,900,000.00 over an average life span, with Mrs. Bradley drawing $275,000.00 during the last year of her life. Their cost for this excellent plan is "0," nada, zilch. This little perk they voted in for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan. Our tax dollars at work! Social Security, which you and I pay into every payday for our own retirement, with an equal amount matched by our employer, we can expect to get an average of $1,000 per month. Or, we would have to collect our benefits for 68 years and 1 month to equal the Bradley's benefits. Imagine for a moment that you could structure a retirement plan so desirable, a retirement plan that worked so well, that Railroad Employees, Postal Workers, and others who were not in the plan would clamor to be included. This is how good Social Security could be, if only one small change was made. That change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan out from under the Senators/Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us. Watch how fast they fix it!!! If enough people receive this maybe a seed will be planted, and maybe good changes will evolve. Don't forget, our girl, Hillary Rodham Clinton, thanks to the infinite wisdom of New York State voters, now comes under this Congressional Retirement Plan. Talking about the Clinton's, it's common knowledge that, in order for her to establish NYS residency, they purchased a million + house in upscale Chappaqua, NY. Makes sense. Now, they are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense. Here is where it becomes interesting. A residency had to be built in order to house the Secret Service agents. The Clinton's now charge the Secret Service rent for the use of said residence and that rent is just about equal to their mortgage payment, meaning that we, the tax payers, are paying the Clinton's mortgage and it's all perfectly legal. You gotta luv it. Is Everybody Happy?????????

>From the York Daily Record (York PA) 15 May 1996 Section A Edition: 00 Page: 04 Mazie M.Eller Born in Wilkes County, N.C. DARLINGTON, Md. Mazie Marie Eller, 58, of Darlington, Md., died Monday at Fallston General Hospital in Fallston, Md. She was the wife of Thomas Franklin Eller, who died March 28. The service will be 11 a.m. Thursday at the Harkins Funeral Home, 600 Main St., Delta. Burial will be in Dublin Southern Cemetery. Viewing will be 7 to 9 p.m. Wednesday at the funeral home. Mrs. Eller was born June 12, 1937, in Wilkes County, N.C. She was the daughter of the late William M. and Dallas (Wagner) Wagner. Mrs. Eller is survived by two sons, William Thomas Eller of Havre de Grace, Md., and Louis Franklin Eller of Frederick, Md.; three grandchildren; a sister, Louise Wagner of North Wilkesboro, N.C.; and five brothers, William E Wagner and Charlie G. Wagner, both of North Wilkesboro, Bobby Ray Wagner and Clifford O. Wagner, both of Tacoma, Wash., and Spencer Wagner of Piney Creek, N.C. Officiating at the service will be Harold L. Hubble of Oak Grove Baptist Church. (I found this in passing, and thought it might be useful. I have no ties to this family.) Dawn Sliver Bastounes "He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings." Psalm 40:2 KJV 1611

Does anyone know anyone who has any info from this journal? Can someone tell me what county this is? (Source: An old journal still owned by members of the Robinson family in Greenville, NC)

Hi all, Hope there is someone out there with information on or who is researching JOHN HOYLE, b 1785 <NC> I believe JOHN is the son of JACOB HOYLE of VA. And I believe JOHN was living in Lincoln Co. NC. in 1830. Any information would sure help. Thanks, Linda

Hi. Searching for John Kaiser, Sr., born before 1810 and died after 1862....only one wifes name available....Mary E. Barradill, widow of Lemuel Bone. John and Mary married February 9, 1853 in Bertie Co., NC. He is listed as planter and Govenor of NC. Does anyone have any information on this man? Thanks, Joy

Does anyone have the 1870 census index for the state that could do a lookup on Joseph Manis b. abt. 1796 N.C. to see if he relocated there by 1870. He was in the Sevier Co.Tn. Census in 1860 , want to make sure he didn't move before I assume he died between 1860 & 70. Thanks Elsie

Could anyone tell me if the 1850 Census is online? Or please post it again? Thanks, Connie

If anyone is searching for information on a Methodist minister in NC, you might want to check with the conference offices. The one in the Western NC Conference has a lot of information and I am sure the one in the NC Conference probably has the same. The Western NC Conference covers from approximately Greensboro, all the way to TN border and south to the SC and GA borders. [email protected] The website for the NC Conference is www.nccumc.org I don't know if other churches have this type of information or not. P. Vz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 11:01 PM Subject: NCROOTS-D Digest V01 #207

NC Newspapers Online: <A HREF="http://library.uncg.edu/news/nq-state.asp?dbstate=nc">News and Newspapers Online - North America - North Carolina</A> (aol - click underline) http://library.uncg.edu/news/nq-state.asp?dbstate=nc (other - copy & paste) Ruth in NC

The web site for Western NC Conference is http://wnccumc.org Joyce --- Message ----- From: "imabucki" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:22 PM Subject: [NCROOTS] Methodist Minister searches > If anyone is searching for information on a Methodist minister in NC, you > might want to check with the conference offices. The one in the Western NC > Conference has a lot of information and I am sure the one in the NC > Conference probably has the same. The Western NC Conference covers from > approximately Greensboro, all the way to TN border and south to the SC and > GA borders. [email protected] The website for the NC Conference is > www.nccumc.org > > I don't know if other churches have this type of information or not. > > P. Vz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 11:01 PM > Subject: NCROOTS-D Digest V01 #207 > > > > > ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project - North Carolina > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/states/northcar/northcar.htm >