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    1. Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires
    2. Carolyn Brown
    3. Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? Carolyn Brown Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood structures. A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of the records were saved because they were in vaults. Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from Bible records. Allen Johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Parks" To: "NCROBESON" Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a > courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. > courthouse > burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records > from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. > > There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for > Lenoir > and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. > > The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of > early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, > persons > name, executor is about all the info it contains. > > Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records > that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. > Rose Parks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terrell Johnson" > > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM > Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >> which >> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >> >> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >> of >> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >> >> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >> the records all burned. >> >> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >> by >> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >> >> Terrell Johnson >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/01/2007 01:31:46
    1. Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires
    2. Allen & Betty Johannes
    3. Bladen Co 1790 census; Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves I'll follow up on 1800 census later. allen johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown > b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on > the archives? > > Carolyn Brown > > Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen > county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood > structures. > A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most > of > the records were saved because they were in vaults. > > Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > > Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > > My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from > Bible records. > > Allen Johannes > abelj@htcomp.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rose Parks" > To: "NCROBESON" > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> >> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >> courthouse >> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >> from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >> Lenoir >> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >> >> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >> persons >> name, executor is about all the info it contains. >> >> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >> Rose Parks >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Terrell Johnson" >> > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>> which >>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples >>> property? >>> >>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>> of >>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>> >>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there >>> if >>> the records all burned. >>> >>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>> by >>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>> >>> Terrell Johnson >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/02/2007 03:27:45
    1. [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires
    2. Betty Bivins
    3. Fires have been plaguing humanity since the invention of fire. Early on in our history, there was no such thing as a "fire proof vault". Actually I have been told of three courthouses that have been built in the past five years and they don't even have a fire proof vault. I suppose they are depending on the State to keep their electronic copies "safe" for future generations. Most people today don't stop to think how these courthouse were heated in the winter and they was no air conditioning or electric fans during their hot summers. Courthouse fires have done many of us out of most of our genealogy documentation. Even a brick or stone structure is not fireproof today. In the 1700's we are lucky that they even had a courthouse. The fact that Bladen courthouse burned is not an indicator a lack of care on the residents and officials in Bladen county. Some courthouses have been lost to fire that was not deliberately set by another human being. The unnecessary burnings of courthouses in Georgia and SC, etc. were done by a general of the U. S. Army. Are we going to call him an "indicator of a lack of care?" I certainly think we would. These are the raw facts of our history. I don't want to get a barrage of "North-South" emails either. That is not the purpose of my comments. For people who are not from southern states and have no direct knowledge of this practice, I can understand why you would not know these fact. You won't read them in any American history textbook. No one in the southern states ever expected an army to destroy courthouses. After the word was spread to those who were fortunate enough to hear about the courthouse burnings, some records were taken out of courthouses for safe keeping. All were not so lucky. The Wilkinson County GA courthouse, built by one of my ancestors in 1850, was torched by this noble U. S. Army. The British took the Colonial Records of Georgia when they captured Savannah. I am assuming it was during the American Revolution when they captured Savannah.Some officers carried them back to England as trophies and they were bought back years later by American collectors. Some British soldiers threw those large books overboard just to be, whatever the words are, they are not in my email vocabulary. These are the only Colonial records that we have for the state of Georgia. A very fine genealogist told me this. I have never read it in any history book. And don't forget that the British burned the warehouses in Alexander VA during the war of 1812 that contained our census records. They told me this years ago at the National Archives in DC. Somewhere on the Internet, there is a list of courthouses and when they burned, but I am sorry, I can't give you the URL at the moment. Good luck with your hunting. I have found church records and old newspapers to be of much value where courthouses have been burned. The newspapers can take years of reading through microfilm. But the newspapers give you another glimpse into our culture. betty in ga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen & Betty Johannes" <abelj@htcomp.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Bladen Co 1790 census; > Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf > Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves > > I'll follow up on 1800 census later. > allen johannes > abelj@htcomp.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> > To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown >> b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate >> on >> the archives? >> >> Carolyn Brown >> >> Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: >> Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >> county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >> structures. >> A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most >> of >> the records were saved because they were in vaults. >> >> Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. >> >> Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. >> >> My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >> Bible records. >> >> Allen Johannes >> abelj@htcomp.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rose Parks" >> To: "NCROBESON" >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >>> >>> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>> courthouse >>> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>> from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >>> >>> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>> Lenoir >>> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >>> >>> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>> persons >>> name, executor is about all the info it contains. >>> >>> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>> Rose Parks >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Terrell Johnson" >>> > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>> >>> >>>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>> which >>>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples >>>> property? >>>> >>>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>> of >>>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>>> >>>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there >>>> if >>>> the records all burned. >>>> >>>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>> by >>>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>>> >>>> Terrell Johnson >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    02/02/2007 03:00:09
    1. Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires
    2. Steve E.
    3. Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by William Byrd. Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist the archives here. Carolyn Brown wrote: >Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? > > Carolyn Brown > >Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >structures. >A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of >the records were saved because they were in vaults. > >Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > >Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > >My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >Bible records. > >Allen Johannes >abelj@htcomp.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rose Parks" >To: "NCROBESON" >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > >>It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>courthouse >>burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >>There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>Lenoir >>and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >> >>The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>persons >>name, executor is about all the info it contains. >> >>Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>Rose Parks >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Terrell Johnson" >> >> >>To: > >>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> >> >>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>which >>>I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >>> >>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>of >>>my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>> >>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >>>the records all burned. >>> >>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>by >>>the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>> >>>Terrell Johnson >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    02/02/2007 06:00:53
    1. Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires
    2. Carolyn Brown
    3. Steve, a cousin who is also researching this had found a good deal of the info on the tax lists and sent it to us. But thank you for laying it out so clearly. That should help also. Our big problem is going to be sorting Col. Thomas Brown and His son Thomas Jr from our Thomas Brown with sons Edmond and Thomas Jr. Both lived in Bladen co about the same times. I believe my husband is most likely descended from Thomas Brown Jr, the brother to Edmond. These Browns lived close to the SC border, What I am hoping to find is a will, or deed of sale linking that we can determine is from "our" Thomas Jr showing his children to follow forward. My husband's line dead ends with his grandfather William Ethridge Brown b May 25 either 1859 or 1861. We know from DNA that he is a perfect 67/67 match for the Edmond Brown line and that should put us linked at about Edmond's father, Thomas.Unfortunately it looks like we are going to have to work in reverse order to close the gap. So, what do you think for what we need to find--county courthouse or archives? Carolyn Brown "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> wrote: Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by William Byrd. Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist the archives here. Carolyn Brown wrote: >Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? > > Carolyn Brown > >Allen & Betty Johannes wrote: > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >structures. >A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of >the records were saved because they were in vaults. > >Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > >Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > >My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >Bible records. > >Allen Johannes >abelj@htcomp.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rose Parks" >To: "NCROBESON" >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > >>It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>courthouse >>burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >>There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>Lenoir >>and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >> >>The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>persons >>name, executor is about all the info it contains. >> >>Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>Rose Parks >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Terrell Johnson" >> >> >>To: > >>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> >> >>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>which >>>I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >>> >>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>of >>>my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>> >>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >>>the records all burned. >>> >>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>by >>>the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>> >>>Terrell Johnson >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/02/2007 04:39:10
    1. [NCROBESO] Bladen County Browns
    2. Betty Bivins
    3. If you have not seen the following book, you might want to check it out. There are many Browns in this book. There is a copy at the Lumberton Library in Lumberton NC. Daniel McCallum-Isabel Sellers, Their Antecedents, Descendants & Collateral Relatives, by Louis Farrell, Col. U. S. Army Retired, No 799H, Flora Janie Hamer Hooker, No. 925 Printed 1946 by The Williams Printing Co. Inc. Spartanburg, S. C. betty in ga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Steve, a cousin who is also researching this had found a good deal of the > info on the tax lists and sent it to us. But thank you for laying it out > so clearly. That should help also. > > Our big problem is going to be sorting Col. Thomas Brown and His son > Thomas Jr from our Thomas Brown with sons Edmond and Thomas Jr. Both lived > in Bladen co about the same times. I believe my husband is most likely > descended from Thomas Brown Jr, the brother to Edmond. These Browns lived > close to the SC border, What I am hoping to find is a will, or deed of > sale linking that we can determine is from "our" Thomas Jr showing his > children to follow forward. My husband's line dead ends with his > grandfather William Ethridge Brown b May 25 either 1859 or 1861. We know > from DNA that he is a perfect 67/67 match for the Edmond Brown line and > that should put us linked at about Edmond's father, Thomas.Unfortunately > it looks like we are going to have to work in reverse order to close the > gap. So, what do you think for what we need to find--county courthouse or > archives? > > Carolyn Brown > > > > "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by > William Byrd. > Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown > and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David > Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one > side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, > Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. > There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county > government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces > to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and > Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might > with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a > trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist > the archives here.

    02/06/2007 05:46:06
    1. Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires
    2. John Brown
    3. I just ordered Vol. 1, unfortunately Vol. 2 is not in print at this time. Steve E. wrote: > Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by > William Byrd. > Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown > and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David > Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one > side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, > Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. > There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county > government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces > to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and > Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might > with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a > trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist > the archives here. > > Carolyn Brown wrote: > > >> Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? >> >> Carolyn Brown >> >> Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: >> Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >> county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >> structures. >> A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of >> the records were saved because they were in vaults. >> >> Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. >> >> Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. >> >> My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >> Bible records. >> >> Allen Johannes >> abelj@htcomp.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rose Parks" >> To: "NCROBESON" >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> >> >> >>> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>> courthouse >>> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>> >> >from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >>> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>> Lenoir >>> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >>> >>> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>> persons >>> name, executor is about all the info it contains. >>> >>> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>> Rose Parks >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Terrell Johnson" >>> >>> >>> To: > >>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>> which >>>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >>>> >>>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>> of >>>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>>> >>>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >>>> the records all burned. >>>> >>>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>> by >>>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>>> >>>> Terrell Johnson >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

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