Fires have been plaguing humanity since the invention of fire. Early on in our history, there was no such thing as a "fire proof vault". Actually I have been told of three courthouses that have been built in the past five years and they don't even have a fire proof vault. I suppose they are depending on the State to keep their electronic copies "safe" for future generations. Most people today don't stop to think how these courthouse were heated in the winter and they was no air conditioning or electric fans during their hot summers. Courthouse fires have done many of us out of most of our genealogy documentation. Even a brick or stone structure is not fireproof today. In the 1700's we are lucky that they even had a courthouse. The fact that Bladen courthouse burned is not an indicator a lack of care on the residents and officials in Bladen county. Some courthouses have been lost to fire that was not deliberately set by another human being. The unnecessary burnings of courthouses in Georgia and SC, etc. were done by a general of the U. S. Army. Are we going to call him an "indicator of a lack of care?" I certainly think we would. These are the raw facts of our history. I don't want to get a barrage of "North-South" emails either. That is not the purpose of my comments. For people who are not from southern states and have no direct knowledge of this practice, I can understand why you would not know these fact. You won't read them in any American history textbook. No one in the southern states ever expected an army to destroy courthouses. After the word was spread to those who were fortunate enough to hear about the courthouse burnings, some records were taken out of courthouses for safe keeping. All were not so lucky. The Wilkinson County GA courthouse, built by one of my ancestors in 1850, was torched by this noble U. S. Army. The British took the Colonial Records of Georgia when they captured Savannah. I am assuming it was during the American Revolution when they captured Savannah.Some officers carried them back to England as trophies and they were bought back years later by American collectors. Some British soldiers threw those large books overboard just to be, whatever the words are, they are not in my email vocabulary. These are the only Colonial records that we have for the state of Georgia. A very fine genealogist told me this. I have never read it in any history book. And don't forget that the British burned the warehouses in Alexander VA during the war of 1812 that contained our census records. They told me this years ago at the National Archives in DC. Somewhere on the Internet, there is a list of courthouses and when they burned, but I am sorry, I can't give you the URL at the moment. Good luck with your hunting. I have found church records and old newspapers to be of much value where courthouses have been burned. The newspapers can take years of reading through microfilm. But the newspapers give you another glimpse into our culture. betty in ga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen & Betty Johannes" <abelj@htcomp.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Bladen Co 1790 census; > Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf > Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves > > I'll follow up on 1800 census later. > allen johannes > abelj@htcomp.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> > To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown >> b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate >> on >> the archives? >> >> Carolyn Brown >> >> Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: >> Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >> county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >> structures. >> A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most >> of >> the records were saved because they were in vaults. >> >> Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. >> >> Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. >> >> My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >> Bible records. >> >> Allen Johannes >> abelj@htcomp.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rose Parks" >> To: "NCROBESON" >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >>> >>> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>> courthouse >>> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>> from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >>> >>> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>> Lenoir >>> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >>> >>> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>> persons >>> name, executor is about all the info it contains. >>> >>> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>> Rose Parks >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Terrell Johnson" >>> > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>> >>> >>>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>> which >>>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples >>>> property? >>>> >>>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>> of >>>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>>> >>>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there >>>> if >>>> the records all burned. >>>> >>>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>> by >>>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>>> >>>> Terrell Johnson >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I appreciate this, I had found the listing for Thomas Brown, Sr. and sons, but had failed to list the neighbors. I think that the Col. Thomas Brown is a different person. He lived in Bladen on the Cape Fear River and Brown Marsh Church area. Our Thomas and Edmund Brown lived down near the SC line in present day Robeson Co. That is one of the most confusing things, the fact that there appears to have been at least 3 Thomas Browns in the county at this time. I seem to recall that Loyalists of NC mentions a Thomas Brown who was hung by Tories. Does anyone know anything about him? On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:00:53 -0500, "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> wrote : > Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by > William Byrd. > Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown > and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David > Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one > side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, > Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. > There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county > government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces > to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and > Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might > with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a > trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist > the archives here. > > Carolyn Brown wrote: > > >Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? > > > > Carolyn Brown > > > >Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: > > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen > >county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood > >structures. > >A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of > >the records were saved because they were in vaults. > > > >Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > > > >Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > > > >My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from > >Bible records. > > > >Allen Johannes > >abelj@htcomp.net > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Rose Parks" > >To: "NCROBESON" > >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM > >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > > > > > > >>It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a > >>courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. > >>courthouse > >>burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records > >>from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. > >> > >>There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for > >>Lenoir > >>and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. > >> > >>The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of > >>early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, > >>persons > >>name, executor is about all the info it contains. > >> > >>Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records > >>that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. > >>Rose Parks > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Terrell Johnson" > >> > >> > >>To: > > >>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM > >>Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires > >>>which > >>>I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be > >>>destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? > >>> > >>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one > >>>of > >>>my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. > >>> > >>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are > >>>reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically > >>>searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if > >>>the records all burned. > >>> > >>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care > >>>by > >>>the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. > >>> > >>>Terrell Johnson > >>> > >>>------------------------------- > >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with > >>>the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- **************** John K. Brown Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking."

1800 Bladen Census: Capt McKay's Dist - don't have the location Genl THos Brown: 1m, 10-16; 1m, 16-26; 1m, 45 plus; 2 free white under 10; 1f, 20-45; 1f, 45 plus; 1, free except Indian not taxed; 44 slaves. There is the Wanda Campbell Genealogy room in the Library 1 block from CH - lots of material. CH has deeds/ birth/ delayed both - 1900+, Wills - not many All courts & pleas , quarter sessions were lost we understand. Archives in Ral has a lot of material on Micro film. If you go that way take ID. They have lockers fior extra materials you have. Have your notes - no books. While there make sure you look for private collections. The clerks are very helpful. I don't have the hrs. Check that on Internet. Allen abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Brown" <jkbrown2@knology.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Is that any indication as to where this Thomas Brown lived? As indicated > in another message, I believe that there was more than one Thomas Brown in > the area. One was the famous Col. or General Brown of Rev. War fame. He > left a will naming his children so I don't believe that he is connected, > at least not directly. The Thomas Brown that Carolyn and I are descended > from lived in a different part of then Bladen Co., down near the SC line. > If this Thomas Brown in the 1790 census is ours the neighbors should > inlcude TAYLOR, BARFIELD, OATES families. I would really like to get > genealogies on all the Browns in Rev. War Bladen to see if we can't figure > some family relationships. > > John > > > On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:27:45 -0600, "Allen & Betty Johannes" > <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote : > >> Bladen Co 1790 census; >> Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf >> Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves >> >> I'll follow up on 1800 census later. >> allen johannes >> abelj@htcomp.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> >> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> > Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas > Brown >> > b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I > concentrate on >> > the archives? >> > >> > Carolyn Brown >> > >> > Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: >> > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in > Bladen >> > county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >> > structures. >> > A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately > most >> > of >> > the records were saved because they were in vaults. >> > >> > Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. >> > >> > Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. >> > >> > My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started > from >> > Bible records. >> > >> > Allen Johannes >> > abelj@htcomp.net >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Rose Parks" >> > To: "NCROBESON" >> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> > >> > >> >> >> >> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >> >> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >> >> courthouse >> >> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county > records >> >> from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >> >> >> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >> >> Lenoir >> >> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >> >> >> >> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide > of >> >> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >> >> persons >> >> name, executor is about all the info it contains. >> >> >> >> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court > records >> >> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >> >> Rose Parks >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Terrell Johnson" >> >> > >> >> To: > >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >> >> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> >> >> >>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >> >>> which >> >>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >> >>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples >> >>> property? >> >>> >> >>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching > one >> >>> of >> >>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >> >>> >> >>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years > are >> >>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be > physically >> >>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be > there >> >>> if >> >>> the records all burned. >> >>> >> >>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of > care >> >>> by >> >>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >> >>> >> >>> Terrell Johnson >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >> >>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > -- > **************** > John K. 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Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by William Byrd. Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist the archives here. Carolyn Brown wrote: >Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? > > Carolyn Brown > >Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >structures. >A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of >the records were saved because they were in vaults. > >Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > >Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > >My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >Bible records. > >Allen Johannes >abelj@htcomp.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rose Parks" >To: "NCROBESON" >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > >>It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>courthouse >>burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >>There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>Lenoir >>and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >> >>The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>persons >>name, executor is about all the info it contains. >> >>Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>Rose Parks >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Terrell Johnson" >> >> >>To: > >>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> >> >>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>which >>>I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >>> >>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>of >>>my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>> >>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >>>the records all burned. >>> >>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>by >>>the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>> >>>Terrell Johnson >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Steve, a cousin who is also researching this had found a good deal of the info on the tax lists and sent it to us. But thank you for laying it out so clearly. That should help also. Our big problem is going to be sorting Col. Thomas Brown and His son Thomas Jr from our Thomas Brown with sons Edmond and Thomas Jr. Both lived in Bladen co about the same times. I believe my husband is most likely descended from Thomas Brown Jr, the brother to Edmond. These Browns lived close to the SC border, What I am hoping to find is a will, or deed of sale linking that we can determine is from "our" Thomas Jr showing his children to follow forward. My husband's line dead ends with his grandfather William Ethridge Brown b May 25 either 1859 or 1861. We know from DNA that he is a perfect 67/67 match for the Edmond Brown line and that should put us linked at about Edmond's father, Thomas.Unfortunately it looks like we are going to have to work in reverse order to close the gap. So, what do you think for what we need to find--county courthouse or archives? Carolyn Brown "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> wrote: Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by William Byrd. Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist the archives here. Carolyn Brown wrote: >Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? > > Carolyn Brown > >Allen & Betty Johannes wrote: > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >structures. >A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of >the records were saved because they were in vaults. > >Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > >Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > >My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >Bible records. > >Allen Johannes >abelj@htcomp.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rose Parks" >To: "NCROBESON" >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > >>It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>courthouse >>burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >>There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>Lenoir >>and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >> >>The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>persons >>name, executor is about all the info it contains. >> >>Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>Rose Parks >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Terrell Johnson" >> >> >>To: > >>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> >> >>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>which >>>I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >>> >>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>of >>>my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>> >>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >>>the records all burned. >>> >>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>by >>>the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>> >>>Terrell Johnson >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bladen Co 1790 census; Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves I'll follow up on 1800 census later. allen johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown > b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on > the archives? > > Carolyn Brown > > Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen > county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood > structures. > A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most > of > the records were saved because they were in vaults. > > Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > > Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > > My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from > Bible records. > > Allen Johannes > abelj@htcomp.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rose Parks" > To: "NCROBESON" > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> >> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >> courthouse >> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >> from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >> Lenoir >> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >> >> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >> persons >> name, executor is about all the info it contains. >> >> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >> Rose Parks >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Terrell Johnson" >> > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>> which >>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples >>> property? >>> >>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>> of >>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>> >>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there >>> if >>> the records all burned. >>> >>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>> by >>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>> >>> Terrell Johnson >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am considering making a trip from Alabama to NC to research my Thomas and Edmund Brown ancestors. They were living in Bladen Co. at least from about 1760 to c1880, before moving to near border of Marlboro Co., SC and Richmond Co., NC. The area in Bladen where they lived was down near the SC line, now Robeson Co. I'm looking for advice on the trip. Should I just add directly to the NC Archives in Raleigh or would it be worth visiting the Bladen & Robeson courthouses and libraries? Any advice appreciated. John **************** John K. Brown Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking."

Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? Carolyn Brown Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood structures. A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of the records were saved because they were in vaults. Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from Bible records. Allen Johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Parks" To: "NCROBESON" Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a > courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. > courthouse > burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records > from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. > > There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for > Lenoir > and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. > > The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of > early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, > persons > name, executor is about all the info it contains. > > Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records > that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. > Rose Parks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terrell Johnson" > > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM > Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >> which >> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >> >> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >> of >> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >> >> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >> the records all burned. >> >> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >> by >> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >> >> Terrell Johnson >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood structures. A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of the records were saved because they were in vaults. Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from Bible records. Allen Johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Parks" <RParks102@msn.com> To: "NCROBESON" <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a > courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. > courthouse > burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records > from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. > > There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for > Lenoir > and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. > > The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of > early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, > persons > name, executor is about all the info it contains. > > Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records > that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. > Rose Parks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terrell Johnson" > <terelmann19@carolina.rr.com<mailto:terelmann19@carolina.rr.com>> > To: <NCROBESO@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCROBESO@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM > Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >> which >> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >> >> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >> of >> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >> >> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >> the records all burned. >> >> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >> by >> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >> >> Terrell Johnson >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com> with >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

According to statements in the Cumberland County court minutes of 1804 that I myself read, the Bladen County courthouse burned in the 1760s. It burned again in 1800 and then in 1893. A prominent man I met in Wilmington recently who is originally from Bladen County said that records dated after 1900 are also missing and he was told there was yet another fire early in the 1900s that claimed some records. In the early days, court clerks would work by candlelight. As you can well imagine, it wouldn't take much of an accident to get a fire started. Interior stoves and fireplaces, forest fires, lightening, tobacco pipes, etc all had their opportunities to start a blaze. After such fires, people would bring their original deeds and wills etc back to the newly built courthouse to have them re-recorded. But later fires consumed the re-recorded deeds as well, and in the ensuing period between fires such original records in the hands of the people would be lost through house fires and civil war, etc, or the family would throw them away. I believe the court clerk Maturin Colville, for whatever strange reason, took some records in the 1770s and refused to give them up. I don't know the entire story of this event, though. All sorts of things were at play to tempt fate into eliminating the Bladen records. Terrell Johnson wrote: >Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires which I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? > >Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one of my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. > >How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if the records all burned. > >Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care by the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. > >Terrell Johnson > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires which I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one of my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if the records all burned. Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care by the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. Terrell Johnson

It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. courthouse burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for Lenoir and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, persons name, executor is about all the info it contains. Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. Rose Parks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrell Johnson" <terelmann19@carolina.rr.com<mailto:terelmann19@carolina.rr.com>> To: <NCROBESO@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCROBESO@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires which > I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be > destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? > > Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one of > my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. > > How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are > reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically > searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if > the records all burned. > > Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care by > the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. > > Terrell Johnson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bladen Co records have burned three times, once in the 1760s, 1800 and then again 1893. So it's best you go to the Archives in Raleigh to search what is left. Archives has Robeson records too. The best day to go to Archives is on Wednesday when not many people are there. They are closed on Sundays and Mondays. On Saturday they close one hour for lunch midday and open again at 1pm. John Brown wrote: >I am considering making a trip from Alabama to NC to research my Thomas >and Edmund Brown ancestors. They were living in Bladen Co. at least from >about 1760 to c1880, before moving to near border of Marlboro Co., SC and >Richmond Co., NC. The area in Bladen where they lived was down near the SC >line, now Robeson Co. > >I'm looking for advice on the trip. Should I just add directly to the NC >Archives in Raleigh or would it be worth visiting the Bladen & Robeson >courthouses and libraries? Any advice appreciated. > >John > > >**************** >John K. Brown >Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS > >"Some family trees have beautiful leaves, >but some just have a bunch of nuts. >Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking." > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

John --- If you have a number of people in Bladen or Robeson I would start with those counties. I have a number of books on Bladen: Cemetery; Bible records; census; deeds & wills. Remember that Bladen CH burned 3 times. We hope to be in Bladen around latter April or may. Allen contact me as below if you wish. betty & Allen Johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Brown" <jkbrown2@knology.net> To: <ncbladen@rootsweb.com>; <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: [NCROBESO] Research Trip > > I am considering making a trip from Alabama to NC to research my Thomas > and Edmund Brown ancestors. They were living in Bladen Co. at least from > about 1760 to c1880, before moving to near border of Marlboro Co., SC and > Richmond Co., NC. The area in Bladen where they lived was down near the SC > line, now Robeson Co. > > I'm looking for advice on the trip. Should I just add directly to the NC > Archives in Raleigh or would it be worth visiting the Bladen & Robeson > courthouses and libraries? Any advice appreciated. > > John > > > **************** > John K. Brown > Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS > > "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, > but some just have a bunch of nuts. > Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At least the fires weren't blamed on the Yankees. "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> wrote: According to statements in the Cumberland County court minutes of 1804 that I myself read, the Bladen County courthouse burned in the 1760s. It burned again in 1800 and then in 1893. A prominent man I met in Wilmington recently who is originally from Bladen County said that records dated after 1900 are also missing and he was told there was yet another fire early in the 1900s that claimed some records. In the early days, court clerks would work by candlelight. As you can well imagine, it wouldn't take much of an accident to get a fire started. Interior stoves and fireplaces, forest fires, lightening, tobacco pipes, etc all had their opportunities to start a blaze. After such fires, people would bring their original deeds and wills etc back to the newly built courthouse to have them re-recorded. But later fires consumed the re-recorded deeds as well, and in the ensuing period between fires such original records in the hands of the people would be lost through house fires and civil war, etc, or the family would throw them away. I believe the court clerk Maturin Colville, for whatever strange reason, took some records in the 1770s and refused to give them up. I don't know the entire story of this event, though. All sorts of things were at play to tempt fate into eliminating the Bladen records. Terrell Johnson wrote: >Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires which I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? > >Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one of my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. > >How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if the records all burned. > >Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care by the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. > >Terrell Johnson > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Much of my research has put me amid the Cumberland County records of the mid and late 1700s. Everything I've seen indicates the Newberrys of Robeson came right from Cumberland. There were Newberrys there in the mid 1700s. They owned land around Fayetteville, just east-southeast of the heart of the city. Cumberland's records are intact and you should start there. William W Armstrong wrote: >I am seeking any information possible on Iveys or Newberrys who lived in >or around the Wishart area of Robeson County. I believe my >great-great-great grandparents were Hugh Newberry (ca 1830-?) and >Samerit Ivey Newberry (ca. 1843?-bef. 1910). The research I've conducted >thus far shows Samerit's father was a William Ivey, mother was Sarah, >both born ca 1811 in North Carolina. I suspect the Iveys may be Lumbee >or have some connection to them. > >Hugh Newberry I cannot locate in any census but the 1860 in this area >-- before that I don't know where he was. There was a Joseph Newberry in >the 1790 census that could be his grandfather possibly? Am not sure. > >The children of this couple included: > >Sarah Newberry >Meredith Newberry >Right/Wright Newberry ** my great-great grandfather, I believe >Lydia Jane >Edna >Joseph F ** married a Fannie Phillips >and perhaps others... > >Please contact me with any information on any branch of these >families. > >Thank you! > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I am seeking any information possible on Iveys or Newberrys who lived in or around the Wishart area of Robeson County. I believe my great-great-great grandparents were Hugh Newberry (ca 1830-?) and Samerit Ivey Newberry (ca. 1843?-bef. 1910). The research I've conducted thus far shows Samerit's father was a William Ivey, mother was Sarah, both born ca 1811 in North Carolina. I suspect the Iveys may be Lumbee or have some connection to them. Hugh Newberry I cannot locate in any census but the 1860 in this area -- before that I don't know where he was. There was a Joseph Newberry in the 1790 census that could be his grandfather possibly? Am not sure. The children of this couple included: Sarah Newberry Meredith Newberry Right/Wright Newberry ** my great-great grandfather, I believe Lydia Jane Edna Joseph F ** married a Fannie Phillips and perhaps others... Please contact me with any information on any branch of these families. Thank you!

ROBESON COUNTY HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL MEETING - SATURDAY AT 2:00PM AT O. P. OWENS BUILDING - SPEAKER: JANE BARNHILL AUTHOR OF "SACRED GROUNDS". The Robeson County Historical & Genealogical Society will be meeting this Saturday at 2:00pm at the O. P. Owens Building on Hwy 72 / Caton Rd. After a short business meeting Jane Blanks Barnhill, a Lumbee Indian, and member of the society, will be giving a program on her newly published book: "Sacred Grounds" a collection of Indian Cemeteries of Robeson County, and surrounding areas. This book is a "must" for those who are researching their local Indian roots. After her program on Saturday, she will have copies available for those interested in purchasing a copies. For more information regarding her book, contact her directly at 1-910-733-5949, or e-mail her at: BJBARNHILL@aol.com.

ROBESON COUNTY HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL MEETING - SATURDAY AT 2:00PM AT O. P. OWENS BUILDING - SPEAKER: JANE BARNHILL AUTHOR OF "SACRED GROUNDS". The Robeson County Historical & Genealogical Society will be meeting this Saturday at 2:00pm at the O. P. Owens Building on Hwy 72 / Caton Rd. After a short business meeting Jane Blanks Barnhill, a Lumbee Indian, and member of the society, will be giving a program on her newly published book: "Sacred Grounds" a collection of Indian Cemeteries of Robeson County, and surrounding areas. This book is a "must" for those who are researching their local Indian roots. After her program on Saturday, she will have copies available for those interested in purchasing a copies. For more information regarding her book, contact her directly at 1-910-733-5949, or e-mail her at: BJBARNHILL@aol.com.

Thanks, Steve. The information is greatly appreciated. I would be happy to return the help should you need any information from the OK area. Sandy Bush ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] [NCCUMBER] Bladen County Historical Society > No Jacob Miller in either volume. > > There can be found a few "Meloy" families: Charles Meloy and Daniel > Meloy. Both Charles Meloy and Daniel Meloy are listed (among a few > others) in a Petition to the court of Bladen county, dated 1782, as > having been in a Tory party under the command of Cols. Hector McNeill > and Duncan Ray that raided the premises of John Plummer in June 1781 and > stole certain articles, the value of which Plummer wished to be > reimbursed for. They are found in a second petition, listed along with > the same men in the first petition, as having taken a Zachariah Plumer > prisoner, wounded and robbed him. > > These Meloy men are not mentioned in the tax lists, but in the loose > papers that were found with the tax lists in the 1980s at Duke > University. No version of the name Malloy, Moloy, etc can be found in > the indexes. There were, however, Malloy families in the area at that > time. The tax lists are not complete; some neighborhoods are missing > from year to year. > > > Sandy Bush wrote: > > >Steve, I would really appreciate knowing if Jacob Miller b1750 from VA, wife > >Catharine Maloy Miller b 1752 Scottish - with 5 children born between 1773 > >and 1780 are listed. Or any Maloys. Thanks, Sandy Bush > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> > >To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com>; <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:22 PM > >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] [NCCUMBER] Bladen County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > >>I have both volumes of the Bladen County Tax Lists covering the years > >>1768-1789. If anyone would like a lookup in these two volumes, let me > >>know. Be aware that there are no Bladen tax lists for the years 1773, > >>1777, 1780-85, or 1788. A few are in alphabetical order, the others > >>appear to be listed as the tax poller found them living along his route. > >>Steve Edgerton > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > >> > >NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message