Those courthouses will be missing many records because they've been sent to the archives at the state level in Raleigh. John Brown wrote: >I don't think you'll find any land records on the town level. They'll all >be recorded in the county courthouse. I am planning to go to Bladen and >Robeson soon to check out the courthouse records. > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Fran" <awkoska@adelphia.net> >>To: <ncduplin@rootsweb.com>; <ncbladen@rootsweb.com>; >><nccumber@rootsweb.com> >>Cc: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com>; <nccraven@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:47 AM >>Subject: [NCROBESO] Town records >> >> >> >> >>>Has any listmember ever done research among land records found in >>>a _town_ office of Kenansville, Elizabethtown, Clinton, New Bern or >>>Fayetteville? >>> >>>Any information helful. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- >> >> >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message > > >> >> >> > > >

RParks102@msn.com writes: ------I don't believe you will find any land records in a "town" office, except in the very old towns in the NE. (and that may only be vital records there)------- Ms. Parks: You are the very first person to acknowledge my request for searching among extant (if any) records of a _town_. Thank you for that. That said, FWIW, I will comment that in three places where I have done hands-on research, town records provided clues/information absolutely not found elsewhere. Moultrie, Colquitt, GA; Camilla, Mitchell, GA and Ellwood City, Lawrence, PA. Thanks for your reply. Fran >> > Has any listmember ever done research among land records found in >> > a _town_ office of Kenansville, Elizabethtown, Clinton, New Bern or >> > Fayetteville? >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I could be mistaken, but I don't believe you will find any land records in a "town" office, except in the very old towns in the NE. (and that may only be vital records there) They are all in the county offices, land , tax etc. Rose Parks ----- Original Message ----- From: "donaldmkinlaw" <donaldmkinlaw@bellsouth.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Town records > I just got interested in my roots in November of 2006 and I have not done > any research on any land records on any city or county in NC. > > Donald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fran" <awkoska@adelphia.net> > To: <ncduplin@rootsweb.com>; <ncbladen@rootsweb.com>; > <nccumber@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com>; <nccraven@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:47 AM > Subject: [NCROBESO] Town records > > > > Has any listmember ever done research among land records found in > > a _town_ office of Kenansville, Elizabethtown, Clinton, New Bern or > > Fayetteville? > > > > Any information helful. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just got interested in my roots in November of 2006 and I have not done any research on any land records on any city or county in NC. Donald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran" <awkoska@adelphia.net> To: <ncduplin@rootsweb.com>; <ncbladen@rootsweb.com>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Cc: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com>; <nccraven@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: [NCROBESO] Town records > Has any listmember ever done research among land records found in > a _town_ office of Kenansville, Elizabethtown, Clinton, New Bern or > Fayetteville? > > Any information helful. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has any listmember ever done research among land records found in a _town_ office of Kenansville, Elizabethtown, Clinton, New Bern or Fayetteville? Any information helful.

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Has anyone done research at the Bladenboro Museum? It looks like from the website that they have a pretty good collection of family material. The problem for me is that since they're only open Sat. & Sun. afternoon its not fitting too well for my trip. I'm trying to decide if there is enough there to warrant going up a day early. I plan on driving up to do some research on my Thomas and Edmund BROWN lineage. Any advice appreciated. John **************** John K. Brown Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking."

Terrell --- I'm not Sam, but, we have been to the CH --- No other place for those records. Sam has told you what is available. Sorry -- we too would like to find others - not so. Allen Betty & Allen Johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrell Johnson" <terelmann19@carolina.rr.com> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Is there any other source one can check on ancestors born and married in > Bladen County then, Sam. > > Terrell Johnson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sam.west" <sam.west@ncmail.net> > To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > >> Hi, >> >> As to records after 1900, I don't think that they are missing. In my >> research in Bladen some of the books starts either in 1892/3. >> >> Deeds are intact after 1800 with minimum loss. Reconstruction of early >> deeds was done in the 1700s by people bringing their deeds back to be >> rerecorded. >> >> Wills I don't know, but I do know that there was major loss in the 1800s. >> >> Estates/Intestates were lost. >> >> Marriages before 1892/3 are all lost. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ncrobeso-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ncrobeso-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Steve E. >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:26 PM >> To: ncrobeso@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> According to statements in the Cumberland County court minutes of 1804 >> that I myself read, the Bladen County courthouse burned in the 1760s. It >> burned again in 1800 and then in 1893. A prominent man I met in >> Wilmington recently who is originally from Bladen County said that >> records dated after 1900 are also missing and he was told there was yet >> another fire early in the 1900s that claimed some records. >> >> In the early days, court clerks would work by candlelight. As you can >> well imagine, it wouldn't take much of an accident to get a fire >> started. Interior stoves and fireplaces, forest fires, lightening, >> tobacco pipes, etc all had their opportunities to start a blaze. >> >> After such fires, people would bring their original deeds and wills etc >> back to the newly built courthouse to have them re-recorded. But later >> fires consumed the re-recorded deeds as well, and in the ensuing period >> between fires such original records in the hands of the people would be >> lost through house fires and civil war, etc, or the family would throw >> them away. I believe the court clerk Maturin Colville, for whatever >> strange reason, took some records in the 1770s and refused to give them >> up. I don't know the entire story of this event, though. >> >> All sorts of things were at play to tempt fate into eliminating the >> Bladen records. >> >> >> >> Terrell Johnson wrote: >> >>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>which >> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >> destroyed >> by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >>> >>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>of >> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>> >>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >> the records all burned. >>> >>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>by >> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>> >>>Terrell Johnson >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have access to NC Revolutionary Army Accounts A-J that can do a look up for me? I'm looking for: Edmund Brown IX 120 2 VI 35 2 Thanks! John **************** John K. Brown Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking."

That's the right Thomas Brown! I just ran across something on a Robeson County forum from 2002 concerning the Barfields of Robeson Co. It lists a number of Barfields from the area. One is Jon "The Immigrant" Barfield born 1615-1630 England, died aft. 1682 Somerton, NC. Married a niece of James Loadman. One of their daughters, Jane Loadman Barfield born c1650 died aft 1694, married Thomas BROWN, born c1645. I'm thinking that this is our guy because I have seen Barfield connections to our Browns in land records. Does anyone have any more information on these folks. Also, Carolyn, when are you thinking of going to NC? I'm thinking March, but haven't set a date. John On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:56:44 -0500, "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> wrote : >> > Also, here is an abstract of an early Bladen deed, one of the few to > survive, concerning Thomas Brown: > > "Thomas Brown of Bladen County., for 50 pounds proc. money to William > Taylor...50 A on said side of Ashpole Swamp on Gumping Gully, granted to > Isaac Odom 1 July 1758, conveyed to Jos Scripps then to William thence > from Allen to Thomas Brown (chain of title not clear)...9 Apr 1771. > Thomas Brown (seal), Wit: Josiah Taylor, Jonathan Taylor. Nov Court > 1771, prov. by Josiah Taylor. Maturin Colville, C.C." > From Holcomb's Bladen County NC Abstracts of Early Deeds 1738-1804. >

Is there any other source one can check on ancestors born and married in Bladen County then, Sam. Terrell Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "sam.west" <sam.west@ncmail.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Hi, > > As to records after 1900, I don't think that they are missing. In my > research in Bladen some of the books starts either in 1892/3. > > Deeds are intact after 1800 with minimum loss. Reconstruction of early > deeds was done in the 1700s by people bringing their deeds back to be > rerecorded. > > Wills I don't know, but I do know that there was major loss in the 1800s. > > Estates/Intestates were lost. > > Marriages before 1892/3 are all lost. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncrobeso-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ncrobeso-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Steve E. > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:26 PM > To: ncrobeso@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > According to statements in the Cumberland County court minutes of 1804 > that I myself read, the Bladen County courthouse burned in the 1760s. It > burned again in 1800 and then in 1893. A prominent man I met in > Wilmington recently who is originally from Bladen County said that > records dated after 1900 are also missing and he was told there was yet > another fire early in the 1900s that claimed some records. > > In the early days, court clerks would work by candlelight. As you can > well imagine, it wouldn't take much of an accident to get a fire > started. Interior stoves and fireplaces, forest fires, lightening, > tobacco pipes, etc all had their opportunities to start a blaze. > > After such fires, people would bring their original deeds and wills etc > back to the newly built courthouse to have them re-recorded. But later > fires consumed the re-recorded deeds as well, and in the ensuing period > between fires such original records in the hands of the people would be > lost through house fires and civil war, etc, or the family would throw > them away. I believe the court clerk Maturin Colville, for whatever > strange reason, took some records in the 1770s and refused to give them > up. I don't know the entire story of this event, though. > > All sorts of things were at play to tempt fate into eliminating the > Bladen records. > > > > Terrell Johnson wrote: > >>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires which > I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be > destroyed > by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >> >>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one of > my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >> >>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are > reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically > searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if > the records all burned. >> >>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care by > the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >> >>Terrell Johnson >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In Byrd's Bladen Tax Lists Vol 1, on a non-alphabetical list, the Bairfield/Barefield/Barfield/ households and the Taylor households are living in the same vicinity as Thomas Brown who lives with his two sons Thomas and Edmond Brown. Conceivably the distance between these families could be a mile or more, but it shows they are near one another along the same route of the man who wrote the list. This happens in 1768. Every other list in the first volume that mentions these families is alphabetical which does not indicate who is living near whom. John Brown wrote: >That's the right Thomas Brown! I just ran across something on a Robeson >County forum from 2002 concerning the Barfields of Robeson Co. It lists a >number of Barfields from the area. One is Jon "The Immigrant" Barfield >born 1615-1630 England, died aft. 1682 Somerton, NC. Married a niece of >James Loadman. One of their daughters, Jane Loadman Barfield born c1650 >died aft 1694, married Thomas BROWN, born c1645. I'm thinking that this is >our guy because I have seen Barfield connections to our Browns in land >records. Does anyone have any more information on these folks. > >Also, Carolyn, when are you thinking of going to NC? I'm thinking March, >but haven't set a date. > >John > > >On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:56:44 -0500, "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> >wrote : > > > >>Also, here is an abstract of an early Bladen deed, one of the few to >>survive, concerning Thomas Brown: >> >>"Thomas Brown of Bladen County., for 50 pounds proc. money to William >>Taylor...50 A on said side of Ashpole Swamp on Gumping Gully, granted to >>Isaac Odom 1 July 1758, conveyed to Jos Scripps then to William thence >>from Allen to Thomas Brown (chain of title not clear)...9 Apr 1771. >>Thomas Brown (seal), Wit: Josiah Taylor, Jonathan Taylor. Nov Court >>1771, prov. by Josiah Taylor. Maturin Colville, C.C." >> From Holcomb's Bladen County NC Abstracts of Early Deeds 1738-1804. >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

If you have not seen the following book, you might want to check it out. There are many Browns in this book. There is a copy at the Lumberton Library in Lumberton NC. Daniel McCallum-Isabel Sellers, Their Antecedents, Descendants & Collateral Relatives, by Louis Farrell, Col. U. S. Army Retired, No 799H, Flora Janie Hamer Hooker, No. 925 Printed 1946 by The Williams Printing Co. Inc. Spartanburg, S. C. betty in ga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > Steve, a cousin who is also researching this had found a good deal of the > info on the tax lists and sent it to us. But thank you for laying it out > so clearly. That should help also. > > Our big problem is going to be sorting Col. Thomas Brown and His son > Thomas Jr from our Thomas Brown with sons Edmond and Thomas Jr. Both lived > in Bladen co about the same times. I believe my husband is most likely > descended from Thomas Brown Jr, the brother to Edmond. These Browns lived > close to the SC border, What I am hoping to find is a will, or deed of > sale linking that we can determine is from "our" Thomas Jr showing his > children to follow forward. My husband's line dead ends with his > grandfather William Ethridge Brown b May 25 either 1859 or 1861. We know > from DNA that he is a perfect 67/67 match for the Edmond Brown line and > that should put us linked at about Edmond's father, Thomas.Unfortunately > it looks like we are going to have to work in reverse order to close the > gap. So, what do you think for what we need to find--county courthouse or > archives? > > Carolyn Brown > > > > "Steve E." <datanato@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by > William Byrd. > Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown > and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David > Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one > side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, > Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. > There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county > government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces > to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and > Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might > with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a > trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist > the archives here.

For McNeill, McMillan and Currie researchers: From Passports of Southeastern Pioneers 1770-1823 by Dorothy Williams Potter (Library of Congress Catalogue card # 89-81678): "Executive Department Monday 29th October 1804 On the recommendation of Turguel McNeill and Angus McMillan inhabitants of Washington County ORDERED That a Pass port thro the Creek nation be prepared for Malcom Curry a citizen of North Carolina which was presented and signed" I highly recommend this book to researchers of ancestors who headed west.

Hi, As to records after 1900, I don't think that they are missing. In my research in Bladen some of the books starts either in 1892/3. Deeds are intact after 1800 with minimum loss. Reconstruction of early deeds was done in the 1700s by people bringing their deeds back to be rerecorded. Wills I don't know, but I do know that there was major loss in the 1800s. Estates/Intestates were lost. Marriages before 1892/3 are all lost. -----Original Message----- From: ncrobeso-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncrobeso-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Steve E. Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:26 PM To: ncrobeso@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires According to statements in the Cumberland County court minutes of 1804 that I myself read, the Bladen County courthouse burned in the 1760s. It burned again in 1800 and then in 1893. A prominent man I met in Wilmington recently who is originally from Bladen County said that records dated after 1900 are also missing and he was told there was yet another fire early in the 1900s that claimed some records. In the early days, court clerks would work by candlelight. As you can well imagine, it wouldn't take much of an accident to get a fire started. Interior stoves and fireplaces, forest fires, lightening, tobacco pipes, etc all had their opportunities to start a blaze. After such fires, people would bring their original deeds and wills etc back to the newly built courthouse to have them re-recorded. But later fires consumed the re-recorded deeds as well, and in the ensuing period between fires such original records in the hands of the people would be lost through house fires and civil war, etc, or the family would throw them away. I believe the court clerk Maturin Colville, for whatever strange reason, took some records in the 1770s and refused to give them up. I don't know the entire story of this event, though. All sorts of things were at play to tempt fate into eliminating the Bladen records. Terrell Johnson wrote: >Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires which I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? > >Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one of my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. > >How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if the records all burned. > >Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care by the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. > >Terrell Johnson > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just ordered Vol. 1, unfortunately Vol. 2 is not in print at this time. Steve E. wrote: > Or you could buy the 'Bladen County Tax Lists 1768-1789', Vols 1&2 by > William Byrd. > Earliest listing in Vol 1 for Thomas Brown is in 1768: "Thomas Brown > and two sons Edmond & Thomas" with neighbors Benjamin Odom David > Bairfield, John Jones, Abraham Paul and Daniel & John McLaine on one > side of him; then Simon Cox and adam Ivey (mulattos), Benjamin Ivey, > Henry Taylor, Samson Taylor, Jonathan Taylor on the other side of him. > There is also a petition by Colonel Thomas Brown to the county > government in 1782 to be reimbursed for damages done by the Tory forces > to his home. There are many listing for Thomas Sr. and Thomas Jr. and > Edmond Brown in both volumes, too much to type here. I think you might > with to go to www.heritagebooks.com to buy the books before you take a > trip up here, that way you'll be better prepared for when you do vist > the archives here. > > Carolyn Brown wrote: > > >> Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on the archives? >> >> Carolyn Brown >> >> Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: >> Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen >> county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >> structures. >> A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most of >> the records were saved because they were in vaults. >> >> Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. >> >> Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. >> >> My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from >> Bible records. >> >> Allen Johannes >> abelj@htcomp.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rose Parks" >> To: "NCROBESON" >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >> >> >> >> >> >>> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>> courthouse >>> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records >>> >> >from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >> >>> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>> Lenoir >>> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >>> >>> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of >>> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>> persons >>> name, executor is about all the info it contains. >>> >>> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records >>> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>> Rose Parks >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Terrell Johnson" >>> >>> >>> To: > >>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>> which >>>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples property? >>>> >>>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one >>>> of >>>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>>> >>>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are >>>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically >>>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there if >>>> the records all burned. >>>> >>>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care >>>> by >>>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>>> >>>> Terrell Johnson >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

You really need to look at both volumes of the Bladen County Tax Lists by Byrd for all entries for Thomas Sr. and Jr., and Edmond Brown, and there are many of them from the years 1768-1789. He may have moved in those years to a different neighborhood. When lists were made from year to year, you can see generally who moved into or out of what neighborhood, provided the list is not alphabetical. If it's alphabetical, forget neighborhoods, but most are not alphabetical. The more you read and absorb these lists as a whole, the more you see the big picture. Also, here is an abstract of an early Bladen deed, one of the few to survive, concerning Thomas Brown: "Thomas Brown of Bladen County., for 50 pounds proc. money to William Taylor...50 A on said side of Ashpole Swamp on Gumping Gully, granted to Isaac Odom 1 July 1758, conveyed to Jos Scripps then to William thence from Allen to Thomas Brown (chain of title not clear)...9 Apr 1771. Thomas Brown (seal), Wit: Josiah Taylor, Jonathan Taylor. Nov Court 1771, prov. by Josiah Taylor. Maturin Colville, C.C." From Holcomb's Bladen County NC Abstracts of Early Deeds 1738-1804. Allen & Betty Johannes wrote: >1800 Bladen Census: >Capt McKay's Dist - don't have the location >Genl THos Brown: 1m, 10-16; 1m, 16-26; 1m, 45 plus; 2 free white under 10; >1f, 20-45; 1f, 45 plus; 1, free except Indian not taxed; 44 slaves. > >There is the Wanda Campbell Genealogy room in the Library 1 block from CH - >lots of material. CH has deeds/ birth/ delayed both - 1900+, Wills - not >many >All courts & pleas , quarter sessions were lost we understand. > >Archives in Ral has a lot of material on Micro film. If you go that way take >ID. They have lockers fior extra materials you have. Have your notes - no >books. While there make sure you look for private collections. The clerks >are very helpful. I don't have the hrs. Check that on Internet. >Allen >abelj@htcomp.net > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Brown" <jkbrown2@knology.net> >To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 4:09 PM >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > >>Is that any indication as to where this Thomas Brown lived? As indicated >>in another message, I believe that there was more than one Thomas Brown in >>the area. One was the famous Col. or General Brown of Rev. War fame. He >>left a will naming his children so I don't believe that he is connected, >>at least not directly. The Thomas Brown that Carolyn and I are descended >>from lived in a different part of then Bladen Co., down near the SC line. >>If this Thomas Brown in the 1790 census is ours the neighbors should >>inlcude TAYLOR, BARFIELD, OATES families. I would really like to get >>genealogies on all the Browns in Rev. War Bladen to see if we can't figure >>some family relationships. >> >>John >> >> >>On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:27:45 -0600, "Allen & Betty Johannes" >><abelj@htcomp.net> wrote : >> >> >> >>>Bladen Co 1790 census; >>>Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf >>>Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves >>> >>>I'll follow up on 1800 census later. >>>allen johannes >>>abelj@htcomp.net >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> >>>To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM >>>Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas >>>> >>>> >>Brown >> >> >>>>b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I >>>> >>>> >>concentrate on >> >> >>>>the archives? >>>> >>>> Carolyn Brown >>>> >>>>Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: >>>> Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in >>>> >>>> >>Bladen >> >> >>>>county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >>>>structures. >>>>A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately >>>> >>>> >>most >> >> >>>>of >>>>the records were saved because they were in vaults. >>>> >>>>Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. >>>> >>>>Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. >>>> >>>>My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started >>>> >>>> >>from >> >> >>>>Bible records. >>>> >>>>Allen Johannes >>>>abelj@htcomp.net >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Rose Parks" >>>>To: "NCROBESON" >>>>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>>>>courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>>>>courthouse >>>>>burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county >>>>> >>>>> >>records >> >> >>>>>from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >>>>> >>>>>There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>>>>Lenoir >>>>>and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >>>>> >>>>>The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide >>>>> >>>>> >>of >> >> >>>>>early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>>>>persons >>>>>name, executor is about all the info it contains. >>>>> >>>>>Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court >>>>> >>>>> >>records >> >> >>>>>that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>>>>Rose Parks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Terrell Johnson" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>To: > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>>>>Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>>>>which >>>>>>I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>>>>destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples >>>>>>property? >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching >>>>>> >>>>>> >>one >> >> >>>>>>of >>>>>>my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>>>>> >>>>>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years >>>>>> >>>>>> >>are >> >> >>>>>>reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>physically >> >> >>>>>>searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>there >> >> >>>>>>if >>>>>>the records all burned. >>>>>> >>>>>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>care >> >> >>>>>>by >>>>>>the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>>>>> >>>>>>Terrell Johnson >>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>>>>the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- >>> >>> >>request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >>subject and the body of the message >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>**************** >>John K. Brown >>Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS >> >>"Some family trees have beautiful leaves, >>but some just have a bunch of nuts. >>Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking." >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

You really need to look at both volumes of the Bladen County Tax Lists by Byrd for all entries for Thomas Sr. and Jr., and Edmond Brown, and there are many of them from the years 1768-1789. He may have moved in those years to a different neighborhood. When lists were made from year to year, you can see generally who moved into or out of what neighborhood, provided the list is not alphabetical. If it's alphabetical, forget neighborhoods, but most are not alphabetical. The more you read and absorb these lists as a whole, the more you see the big picture. Allen & Betty Johannes wrote: >1800 Bladen Census: >Capt McKay's Dist - don't have the location >Genl THos Brown: 1m, 10-16; 1m, 16-26; 1m, 45 plus; 2 free white under 10; >1f, 20-45; 1f, 45 plus; 1, free except Indian not taxed; 44 slaves. > >There is the Wanda Campbell Genealogy room in the Library 1 block from CH - >lots of material. CH has deeds/ birth/ delayed both - 1900+, Wills - not >many >All courts & pleas , quarter sessions were lost we understand. > >Archives in Ral has a lot of material on Micro film. If you go that way take >ID. They have lockers fior extra materials you have. Have your notes - no >books. While there make sure you look for private collections. The clerks >are very helpful. I don't have the hrs. Check that on Internet. >Allen >abelj@htcomp.net > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Brown" <jkbrown2@knology.net> >To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 4:09 PM >Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > >>Is that any indication as to where this Thomas Brown lived? As indicated >>in another message, I believe that there was more than one Thomas Brown in >>the area. One was the famous Col. or General Brown of Rev. War fame. He >>left a will naming his children so I don't believe that he is connected, >>at least not directly. The Thomas Brown that Carolyn and I are descended >>from lived in a different part of then Bladen Co., down near the SC line. >>If this Thomas Brown in the 1790 census is ours the neighbors should >>inlcude TAYLOR, BARFIELD, OATES families. I would really like to get >>genealogies on all the Browns in Rev. War Bladen to see if we can't figure >>some family relationships. >> >>John >> >> >>On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:27:45 -0600, "Allen & Betty Johannes" >><abelj@htcomp.net> wrote : >> >> >> >>>Bladen Co 1790 census; >>>Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf >>>Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves >>> >>>I'll follow up on 1800 census later. >>>allen johannes >>>abelj@htcomp.net >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> >>>To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM >>>Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas >>>> >>>> >>Brown >> >> >>>>b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I >>>> >>>> >>concentrate on >> >> >>>>the archives? >>>> >>>> Carolyn Brown >>>> >>>>Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: >>>> Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in >>>> >>>> >>Bladen >> >> >>>>county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood >>>>structures. >>>>A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately >>>> >>>> >>most >> >> >>>>of >>>>the records were saved because they were in vaults. >>>> >>>>Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. >>>> >>>>Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. >>>> >>>>My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started >>>> >>>> >>from >> >> >>>>Bible records. >>>> >>>>Allen Johannes >>>>abelj@htcomp.net >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Rose Parks" >>>>To: "NCROBESON" >>>>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a >>>>>courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. >>>>>courthouse >>>>>burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county >>>>> >>>>> >>records >> >> >>>>>from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. >>>>> >>>>>There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for >>>>>Lenoir >>>>>and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. >>>>> >>>>>The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide >>>>> >>>>> >>of >> >> >>>>>early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, >>>>>persons >>>>>name, executor is about all the info it contains. >>>>> >>>>>Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court >>>>> >>>>> >>records >> >> >>>>>that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. >>>>>Rose Parks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Terrell Johnson" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>To: > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM >>>>>Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires >>>>>>which >>>>>>I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be >>>>>>destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples >>>>>>property? >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching >>>>>> >>>>>> >>one >> >> >>>>>>of >>>>>>my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. >>>>>> >>>>>>How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years >>>>>> >>>>>> >>are >> >> >>>>>>reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>physically >> >> >>>>>>searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>there >> >> >>>>>>if >>>>>>the records all burned. >>>>>> >>>>>>Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>care >> >> >>>>>>by >>>>>>the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. >>>>>> >>>>>>Terrell Johnson >>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with >>>>>>the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- >>> >>> >>request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >>subject and the body of the message >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>**************** >>John K. Brown >>Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS >> >>"Some family trees have beautiful leaves, >>but some just have a bunch of nuts. >>Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking." >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Is that any indication as to where this Thomas Brown lived? As indicated in another message, I believe that there was more than one Thomas Brown in the area. One was the famous Col. or General Brown of Rev. War fame. He left a will naming his children so I don't believe that he is connected, at least not directly. The Thomas Brown that Carolyn and I are descended from lived in a different part of then Bladen Co., down near the SC line. If this Thomas Brown in the 1790 census is ours the neighbors should inlcude TAYLOR, BARFIELD, OATES families. I would really like to get genealogies on all the Browns in Rev. War Bladen to see if we can't figure some family relationships. John On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:27:45 -0600, "Allen & Betty Johannes" <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote : > Bladen Co 1790 census; > Thos Brown: 1 wm 16 up; 1 wm under 16; 3 wf > Thomas Brown Esq: 1 wm 16 up; 3 wm under 16; 4 wf; 30 slaves > > I'll follow up on 1800 census later. > allen johannes > abelj@htcomp.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> > To: <ncrobeso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > Any idea how far back the records do go? I'm needing info on Thomas Brown > > b abt 1740 in Bladen, probably died about 1800. Or should I concentrate on > > the archives? > > > > Carolyn Brown > > > > Allen & Betty Johannes <abelj@htcomp.net> wrote: > > Mr Johnson seems to not understand when those fires took place in Bladen > > county. The last was 1893. Earlier courthouses were of log or wood > > structures. > > A few years ago the courthouse in Hillsboro TX burned - fortunately most > > of > > the records were saved because they were in vaults. > > > > Courthouses such as Bladen etc did not have vaults for protection. > > > > Many people brought back records to be refilled. Not all did so. > > > > My wife's family in late 1700s & 1800s lost many records. We started from > > Bible records. > > > > Allen Johannes > > abelj@htcomp.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rose Parks" > > To: "NCROBESON" > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > > > > > >> > >> It probably cost too much to get brick or rock brought in to build a > >> courthouse that would withstand fire at that time. The Lenoir Co. > >> courthouse > >> burned twice but many years apart, but destroying all the county records > >> from 1757-1880 except the Grantee Index. > >> > >> There are District and Superior Court records at the NC Archives for > >> Lenoir > >> and many deeds and wills were in individual hands. > >> > >> The Secretary of State has a "list" that the counties had to provide of > >> early wills, but it is just the month and year written and probated, > >> persons > >> name, executor is about all the info it contains. > >> > >> Hope this at least gives you some ideas and there are many court records > >> that are good from what I have seen from Lenoir Co. > >> Rose Parks > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Terrell Johnson" > >> > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:53 PM > >> Subject: [NCROBESO] Bladen County Courthouse Fires > >> > >> > >>> Just read a post about three separate Bladen County Courthouse fires > >>> which > >>> I find odd that any people should let their Courthouse Records be > >>> destroyed by fire 3 times. Didn't they take care of the peoples > >>> property? > >>> > >>> Anyway, this could be why I'm having so much difficulty researching one > >>> of > >>> my ancestors born in Bladen in the very Late 1700 or early 1800's. > >>> > >>> How long did it take to rebuild them after each fire and what years are > >>> reasonably safe to check records for or must all records be physically > >>> searched at the NC Archives in Raleigh and why would anything be there > >>> if > >>> the records all burned. > >>> > >>> Lot's of questions I know. But 3 fires seems to indicate a lack of care > >>> by > >>> the Bladen County residents. I'm sorry. > >>> > >>> Terrell Johnson > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with > >>> the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCROBESO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCROBESO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- **************** John K. Brown Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking."