In a message dated 3/22/2007 5:22:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nduffy@patch.net writes: Richard, Do you know where his wife was buried? It would be one place to start looking. Naturally I thought of CW records and I did find one J. M. Cranford who was inducted in Rockingham Co. who died of wounds but he did not die until 1863. Nola Hi, I know that their sons lived with his mother and he was buried on Lovejoy Methodist Cem. I am not part of the family of these but I have so many others that married people in my families. They were descended of the Presnells and others, Here us the Presnells: >From Judith Presnell Canant Hendersonville NC Direct Descendants of James Presnell 1 James PRESNELL b: Bet. 1630 - 1640 in Of Cripplegate Church, London, England (age is simply a guess) d: in England .. +Hester, Wife of James Presnell b: Bet. 1630 - 1642 in Of Cripplegate Church, London, England (age is simply a guess) d: in England ... 2 Jacob Or James PRESNELL, Sr b: 27 Mar 1662 in Dartford, Kent, England?? Or London, London, Eng. -The first event for which there is a recorded date d: 1705 in King and Queen Co, or Middlesex Co, VA at 44 years of age ....... +Sarah, W Of J Presnell b: Bet. 1662 - 1665 in (age is guess) (Surname may be BELL, as Jacob seemed to live with Wm Bell after age 19 m: Abt. 1681 in Dartford, Kent d: Bef. 1732 ........ 3 Jacob PRESNELL II b: 1684 in May born Eng & got to VA ca 1683 (certainly not in France) (PRESNAL) d: 04 Mar 1715/16 in Middlesex Co, VA at age 31 (he was exor of Thomas Hedgecock in 1704) Burial: 06 Mar 1715/16 Middlesex Co, VA, perhaps in Christ Ch. or in his land (Death and Burial dates recorded at Christ Church) ............ +Probably Hedgecock MARY, Dau Of Thomas b: Bet. 1680 - 1686 in Almost certainly wife of Jacob. (Has been proven that Mary Julie Maupin was NOT his wife) (This Mary's father died by 1704, when dau Sarah was 1st grandchild, and mentioned in his will) m: Abt. 1700 in VA? (There is absolutely NO evidence that he was ever in Williamsburg, VA) d: Bef. 03 Sep 1717 in Middlesex, VA (in Order book 5, dated 3 Sept 1717, states Mary is descd) Father: Thomas Hedgecock Mother: Margery Simmons ............. 4 Jacob PRESNELL, "Jr" (III) b: 04 Feb 1713/14 in Of Christ Church, Middlesex Co, VA -(Date of Baptism, March 13, 1714, Christ Church Par, Middlesex, VA), later, was a Quaker d: Abt. 1800 in Randolph Co, NC ................. +Martha, Martha U Last? b: 14 May 1716 in Kent, MD to VA, then to NC (or someone said Spencer-?) m: Abt. 1740 in Bedford Co, VA - to Randolph Co, NC after 1758 (Dave says they had 8 children- some of these must be gr-ch or not theirs at all) d: 1761 in NC .................. 5 Mary Margaret PRESNELL b: Bet. 1746 - 1750 in VA or NC (William Williams was married to a Mary -we believe this Mary is the mother of these children) d: 1833 in (See her notes from Randolph Co Gen. Society Jounal Fall 2004) ...................... +William WILLIAMS, Sr b: Bet. 1740 - 1750 in Randolph Co, NC (Quaker, Back Creek MM, lived SW Randolph Co, along Little River) m: in Names of 2 daus of Jacob haven't bn prvn-this is thought to be dau d: 22 Feb 1811 in (Back Creek MM, NC) (May term 1811) Father: Jonathan Williams Mother: Mary ....................... 6 Daniel WILLIAMS, Sr b: Bet. 1760 - 1770 in Randolph Co NC d: 1847 in Randolph Co NC ........................... +Nancy E COLE ............................ 7 Marmaduke "Duke" WILLIAMS b: 28 May 1804 in Randolph Co, NC (Prob. Father, or perhaps brother of Lucy Jane Williams (see notes in J R RIDGE file) d: 1886 in Randolph Co, NC, S Div - was there in 1850 census, aged 47 Burial: Flag Springs United Meth. Ch. Asheboro, Randolph Co, NC ................................ +Amy JOHNSON b: Abt. 1805 m: 29 Oct 1822 in Children all born in NC (source: here) d: 16 Nov 1849 ................................. 8 Laura Ann WILLIAMS b: 19 Nov 1839 in Randolph Co, NC (her father settled estate of her husband) d: in IN 1880 she lived with son Joel ..................................... +James Madison CRANFORD b: Abt. 1840 in (age is my guess) 'may well have been in the CSA d: Jul 1862 in Randolph Co, NC; Killed in one of these years, estate filed in Oct,of 1862/63 Randolph & Montgomery Co's, NC Father: Richard Cranford Mother: Elizabeth ...................................... 9 Joel G CRANFORD b: Abt. 1862 in Lived in Asheboro, Ramseur area, Randolph Co, NC 1880 d: in Gr-grandfather of Richard, bur at Lovejoy Methodist Cem ============================== And here are the descendant of the Williams Direct Descendants of Richard Williams 1 Richard WILLIAMS b: Bet. 1670 - 1680 in Of Philadelphia MM, PA (age is guess) .. +Margaret, W Of Richd Williams m: in Wm is proven as son, here, but have not proven Jonathan or Geo. as sons; all were from PA & Hopewell MM, VA ... 2 Jonathan WILLIAMS b: Bet. 1700 - 1720 in Of Hopewell MM, VA, on 4,4,1744, he & fam gct "Friends of Little River in NC.." then Cane Crk MM, NC ....... +Mary m: in Unknown if these are sons of Jonathan or siblings of each other, but keeping them together until I know. ........ 3 William WILLIAMS, Sr b: Bet. 1740 - 1750 in Randolph Co, NC (Quaker, Back Creek MM, lived SW Randolph Co, along Little River) d: 22 Feb 1811 in (Back Creek MM, NC) (May term 1811) ............ +Mary Margaret PRESNELL b: Bet. 1746 - 1750 in VA or NC (William Williams was married to a Mary -we believe this Mary is the mother of these children) m: in Names of 2 daus of Jacob haven't bn prvn-this is thought to be dau d: 1833 in (See her notes from Randolph Co Gen. Society Jounal Fall 2004) Father: Jacob Presnell, "Jr" (III) Mother: Martha, Martha U Last? ............. 4 Daniel WILLIAMS, Sr b: Bet. 1760 - 1770 in Randolph Co NC d: 1847 in Randolph Co NC ................. +Nancy E COLE .................. 5 Marmaduke "Duke" WILLIAMS b: 28 May 1804 in Randolph Co, NC (Prob. Father, or perhaps brother of Lucy Jane Williams (see notes in J R RIDGE file) d: 1886 in Randolph Co, NC, S Div - was there in 1850 census, aged 47 Burial: Flag Springs United Meth. Ch. Asheboro, Randolph Co, NC ...................... +Amy JOHNSON b: Abt. 1805 m: 29 Oct 1822 in Children all born in NC (source: here) d: 16 Nov 1849 ....................... 6 Laura Ann WILLIAMS b: 19 Nov 1839 in Randolph Co, NC (her father settled estate of her husband) d: in IN 1880 she lived with son Joel ........................... +James Madison CRANFORD b: Abt. 1840 in (age is my guess) 'may well have been in the CSA d: Jul 1862 in Randolph Co, NC; Killed in one of these years, estate filed in Oct,of 1862/63 Randolph & Montgomery Co's, NC Father: Richard Cranford Mother: Elizabeth ............................ 7 Joel G CRANFORD b: Abt. 1862 in Lived in Asheboro, Ramseur area, Randolph Co, NC 1880 d: in Gr-grandfather of Richard, bur at Lovejoy Methodist Cem ==== ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.