I have finally started putting new material online. At the moment it is still being indexed but the search engine should be done by early a.m. at the latest. I have linked the surnames from the 1850 Cenus to the images which are now online. I ordered the 1850 Census images some time ago and they have just arrived. I have also started abstracting some birth and marriage records as well as listing CV volunteers from Randolph Co. Hope everyone can find something useful I have been trying to contact the author of the Craven book with the thought that if it is sold out, I might ask for permission to post part of it. If anyone knows how I might reach her or a family member, please let me know. Nola

Might try the Quaker Records. Some of the Hoovers were Quaker. ----- Original Message ----- From: <leoandlinda@provide.net> To: <NCRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [NCRANDOL] Hoover family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I have asked nice people to check Hulda's book for possible Davids and > Jesses, but all turned out to be dead ends. I will hit the Hoover board > and see if someone will check for a possible early Phillip and...... > heavens, I hate to even ask about a Jacob. There were so many! But I > will, with specifics, so they can eliminate <wry grin>. > > I will be getting in contact with Davidson Co county/library/historical > society sources over the coming weekend, when I have the time to check out > their preferred formats and contacts, and can frame concise and specific > queries. > > I have often heard that all the Hoovers in the area were descended from > Andreas, and this may be true in Randolph Co. But even though this > specific area of Davidson Co is 'just across the border' from Randolph, > there are no guarantees that they were connected. May be. May not be. I > have often hoped so, because the line was so well-researched, but after a > batch of years, I suspect that I may not be that lucky. > > There were Hoovers early in a number of counties in the Piedmont of NC, > and there were Hoovers earlier in a number of counties in VA/MD/PA et al. > My Hoovers may have come from one of these lines and places. They may or > may not have been all connected back at the shoreline..... I guess that's > what we get the fun of figuring out <grins>. > > Thanks, LB > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.1 Message Board Post: I have asked nice people to check Hulda's book for possible Davids and Jesses, but all turned out to be dead ends. I will hit the Hoover board and see if someone will check for a possible early Phillip and...... heavens, I hate to even ask about a Jacob. There were so many! But I will, with specifics, so they can eliminate <wry grin>. I will be getting in contact with Davidson Co county/library/historical society sources over the coming weekend, when I have the time to check out their preferred formats and contacts, and can frame concise and specific queries. I have often heard that all the Hoovers in the area were descended from Andreas, and this may be true in Randolph Co. But even though this specific area of Davidson Co is 'just across the border' from Randolph, there are no guarantees that they were connected. May be. May not be. I have often hoped so, because the line was so well-researched, but after a batch of years, I suspect that I may not be that lucky. There were Hoovers early in a number of counties in the Piedmont of NC, and there were Hoovers earlier in a number of counties in VA/MD/PA et al. My Hoovers may have come from one of these lines and places. They may or may not have been all connected back at the shoreline..... I guess that's what we get the fun of figuring out <grins>. Thanks, LB

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hoover Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1 Message Board Post: Have you contacted the Herbert Hoover Library? Also there is his biography by Hulda Hoover McClain. I know Clint Hoover in AL has the book. To my knowledge all H in that area descend from immigrant Andrew Hoover.

Thanks for the note, Pat. I know that a number of Hoovers and others headed to OH and later to IN. I suspect Vestals may have also. But the David Hoover m [I think] Amy Vestal, may have be the dad. I hope. Their son Jesse, if he was their son, was the one who went later to MO with the Gosses, his in-laws. I appreciate the tip, though. Linda On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:06:53 -0400, you wrote: >Many of the Vestals migrated to Indiana some to Texas . I am not aware of Mo >as a state that they seemed to migrate to however anything is possible. a >whole lot went to Morgan Co Ind and the nearby co's also a lot went to Ohio. >This due in part to Quaker religion , have you checked the Quaker records ?? >Patricia Perkins

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4 Message Board Post: Thanks for the replies! Very very much appreciated. I have been reviewing this family recently, and I think that I may have given up on the connection between my Jesse b cir 1830 and this particular David Hoover, wife Amy [reputed to be Amy Vestal, but I have not proofed this], and their son Jesse of the same age. Thanks, Gary. It sounds like I may have been tracking that same 'other' Jesse, and may have given up too quickly. It all sounds very familiar. I don't want to push the patience of the Randolph Co board with my Davidson Co people, but so many Hoover researchers listen in here.... I will be very brief and basic. It is possible that people who know the lines of Jonas and Jacob Hoover of Randolph, or who know of extraneous sibs and cousins of other Randolph Co Hoover lines may have a clue for me. On the other hand, this may be a different line of Hoovers.... Your patience is appreciated. Here, I am only laying out a very brief skeleton of census data., hoping that names and times might click. All of these were 'Rowan Co' until the 1830 census, but from tracking the people and neighbor clusters and land issues, they seem to have been roughly in either the northern or southern division of Davidson Co, and pretty much stayed put. Boundaries changed, but the rough geography did not. 1790 No Hoovers by any spelling I could find 1800 George and Peter.... Unfortunately an alphabetized census. Both names follow along in the northern division families, but may not mean much. ****1810 Jacob and Phillip Hoover; These two continue very near each other in the southern division of Davidson over decades. Ages too close to be father/son. Must be brothers/cousins. I strongly suspect that David m Amy was from one of them, and possibly all other southern division Hoovers. Who were they?? 1820 Jacob and Phillip still next door, southern division, Henry a few farms along in one direction, of an age to be a brother/cousin. Michael a few farms along in the other direction, of an age to be a son of one of them. 1830 Jacob and Phillip southern division. Phelix and Charles northern division. 1840 Peter and Valentine, northern div. David southern 1850 Peter, Valentine, Charles northern division; David, Andrew, Henry southern. I may be dealing with a Hoover line that had absolutely nothing to do with the Randolph Hoovers, at least back to the shore or well beyond the shore. But if anything makes sense here for Randolph Co Hoover hunters, I would appreciate any advice. Thanks for the patience of the Randolph list. I'll try to take this to a Hoover list. I hope that the other Hoover researchers will still be listening.......... Linda

Many of the Vestals migrated to Indiana some to Texas . I am not aware of Mo as a state that they seemed to migrate to however anything is possible. a whole lot went to Morgan Co Ind and the nearby co's also a lot went to Ohio. This due in part to Quaker religion , have you checked the Quaker records ?? Patricia Perkins

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Linda this is an update from my last reply. The David I was thinking about was married to Polly, ( no last name ). It could be that David who married Amy who had a son Jesse, that Jesse might have migrated with his wifes family. David and Polly had a son named Jesse who moved to Indiana. The County of Davidson, Library or register of deeds may have some information that might help, Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Linda, from accounts of David and Amy, Jesse did moved to Indiana along with other Hoovers from the area around that time.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hoover Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am not familiar w/ this branch of the Hoover family. All the H in that area descend from Andrew Hoover who lived on the Uwharrie River. I descend from son Jonas who stayed in Randolph Co. I'm forwarding your message to Gary Hoover in Asheboro and Clint Hoover in Alabama. I think they will be able to help you. Always glad to help if I can.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hoover, Carrick, Goss, Cross, Skeen et al Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1340.1365.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am very interested in the kids of David Hoover and Amy Vestal, southern division of Davidson Co NC. Does anyone know where their son Jesse b abt 1830 went? If Jesse moved to IN with the other Hoovers and stayed there, then he is not my Jesse. But if their son Jesse did *not* make his home in IN, then I strongly suspect that he followed his wife's family to MO abt 1854. Any info on David and Amy's son Jesse would be helpful, if only to eliminate him as a possible. Thanks, Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1839.1.1 Message Board Post: Bob, Thanks so much for responding to my post. We have corresponded before and I do want to thank you so much for your web site. Julius and Rachel are my ancestors. I believe that a James Patterson is Julius's father and I've been slowly collecting data to support this. Thanks again.... Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/2021.1.4.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have the book "Moon Over Purgatory" by Bill Johnson which tells the story of good ole Peter Garner. Although it's fiction, it is based on the actual events. Susanna Latham, wife of Peter Garner, was a Garner herself through her mother. She and Peter were cousins of some degree. After Peter died, Susanna never remarried but had several more children.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/2021.1.4.3.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The "other" Randolph Co. Garners were of German ancestry. Some of the families with whom they intermarried were Latham, Crisco, Cagle, and others. These Garners produced Peter Garner, the infamous "bounty hunter" who tracked down awol Confederate soldiers and also Quaker boys who would not participate in the war. He was not a good guy. Then there were the GarDners of Guilford Co. NC, not related to either of the Randolph Garner families. They were from New England.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/2021.1.4.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have looked for James Taylor Gar(d)ner and can NOT find his parents. As for the name change, I have always thought the D was added to distinguish themselves from the other, unrelated, Garner family in Randolph. The Garners who went to Moore County kept the original spelling.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1839.1 Message Board Post: Hi Susan, Saw this old post and thought I'd pass along that there is a Julius A. (Ambrose I think) PATTERSON of Surry County, NC who was married to Rachel WARD (of Guilford County). Some of his children were John, James, Julius, MArgaret, Wiley Ebenezer, and others. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC

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James Butler, (born around 1820 in Marion Co., S.C. - died Aug. 5, 1902 in Randolph Co., N.C.), married Sarah S. Webster, (born Sept. 9, 1822 - died April 1906). Sarah S. Webster was a daughter of Edward Webster and Susan Saltenstall. Edward Webster's parents were Stephen Webster and Prudence Butler. Prudence Butler Webster was born around 1770 in Middletown, CT and died Oct. 20, 1823. I am trying to find out who Prudence Butler Webster's parents were, and I am hoping James Butler can lead me there. There is a good possibility that James and Sarah Webster Butler were cousins. Does anyone know who James Butler's parents were? How about Prudence Butler Webster's parents? Any clues will be appreciated. Thanks, Christie

The MOFFITT Most Wanted web page has been updated. There are 3 new entries -290 total! Please visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/moffitt.html to see if your elusive MOFFITT (et al) is there! Please note: Many USA MOFFITTS originated in NC, primarily Randolph Co. Also, visit http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/ to see other Most Wanted web sites. Happy hunting! -- Yvonne Bowers, Listmom, Webmom MOFFITT, MOFFETT, MOFFAT and MOFFATT Mailing Lists & Message Boards MOFFITT Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/moffitt.html Robert MOFFITT & Margaret STUART Family File http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/moffitt/WC_TOC.HTM

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Slack Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/1451.1.1 Message Board Post: I have information on Labon Slack. (Pronounced lay-bon). There are 2 an uncle and a nephew. Labon the nephew was my ggrandfather(b 1855) and is buried in Albemarle, NC. He was married to my ggrandmother Mary Adelaide Lowder Slack, his father was Henry and I believe Henry's father to be John Slack and mother Margaret Auman Slack.