ARE YOU KIN TO THE MURRAYS IN ALAMANCE CO NC JAMES MURRAY AND PENNIA THOMAS MURRAY???? ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCR'ndol] 1790 tax rolls/census to which i would only add, very few people were literate in the census. those who were took the census and wrote down --many times phonetically--what they thought they heard dialects and all. be sure and use "soundex". allen murray ==== NCRANDOL Mailing List ==== NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of those we seek goes, but MUST be kept within the *List's Golden Rule*. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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Hi, I'm asking some kind soul out there to do a lookup for me. I have from the AGBI database this reference: Surname: HOOKER, Robert North Carolina his. and gen. Reg. Jan. 1900-July 1903. Edenten, NC, 1900-03. (V.1-2, v.3, no.1-3): 3:456 I have been trying to get as much info on my 5th great grandfather Robert Hooker. Would someone who has access to this copy please let me know what this article says? Thank you, Linda http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~treesearcher

Hi, Patricia I know that there were probably *some* kinds of constant patterns, but these would probably vary wildly by location and census year......... The pattern for any one area might depend on which volunteer transcriber got handed which batch of pages from that census year. The one thing that has helped me in trying to puzzle these things out...... Try to move forward in the census years to find the earliest one that is *not* alphabetized. Unfortunately, your guy of primary interest may be dead...... But look for any that might pertain to your surname. And then make notes of the neighbors' surnames, at least for two pages before and after your cluster. You might find that there are two or three "clusters" of your surname in the county or district, but jot down the related surnames for each cluster. Then move back into the transcribed info, and follow the patterns of neighbors. "Compare and contrast", as we use to say in high school <sorry. grin.> I do not have this experience in Randolph, but in Davidson, you might find a cluster of Hoovers who were associated with Gosses, and Crosses, and Smiths, and Hedricks and another cluster of Hoovers who were more associated with Redwines and Millikins and Smiths and Davises......... Track the neighbors, and watch the patterns. This will not easily tell you who lived next door to whom in the transcribed censuses, but it can lead you to what specific area of the county your person of interest was *living in* at the time. Besides, you can learn a lot from following neighbors. I first did this from, well, necessity. As above <wry gr>. But now, I just do it. There are amazing things that fall out from the following of neighbors. Best of luck, Linda >Thanks to all who answered question re census for Randolph Co . I guess I >kind of knew that they had been transcribed however , what I wondered was >what significance was there to each of the sections? were they a page ,?or a >twp or what ?I see that there are a group of alphabetized names and extras >just added on the end ,would that be a page on the original census, ?or >perhaps a twp ? and then would the next group of names being alphabetized >a different page of the original census , or a different twp ? What do the >sections of alphabetized names represent? >Patricia Caviness Perkins

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kUB.2ACE/1737 Message Board Post: Am trying to find info about Catherine (possibly maiden name Brower) b 1797 in NC who married William Latham. THey moved to Henderson Co TN about 1830. In 1860 Henderson Co TN a BRT BRower was in HH of William and Catherine. Also Cornelius Latham who married Nancy Brower in Randolph Co NC was in Henderson Co. Believe that Wm and Cornelius are kin. Nancy and Catherine kin also. Any help would be appreciated and will be glad to share info I have. LaDonna

James, As strange as it may be, that may very well the Wrenn that I am looking for. The surname and the dates are about the ones I am looking for. If it is the one I am looking for, he would be my G-G-Grandfather. Do you have a list of his children or his siblings? I am looking for the father of my Great Grandfather Thomas Jefferson Wrenn. He was born in Guilford County in 1832, I have no record of my G-Grandfather other than the ones in the family Bible. I wish I could give you more help. Dee --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears

to which i would only add, very few people were literate in the census. those who were took the census and wrote down --many times phonetically--what they thought they heard dialects and all. be sure and use "soundex". allen murray

Thanks to all who answered question re census for Randolph Co . I guess I kind of knew that they had been transcribed however , what I wondered was what significance was there to each of the sections? were they a page ,?or a twp or what ?I see that there are a group of alphabetized names and extras just added on the end ,would that be a page on the original census, ?or perhaps a twp ? and then would the next group of names being alphabetized a different page of the original census , or a different twp ? What do the sections of alphabetized names represent? Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message ----- From: John German <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [NCR'ndol] Re: 1790 Randolph Co census > The 1790 census of Randolph Co. seems very similar to period tax lists - > crudely alphabetized within militia districts with additions at the end > of each district list. > > > ==== NCRANDOL Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dee: Saw your query concerning the 1780 Census for Randolph County for the Wrenn Family. Do you have any information about William Degge Wren who married Mehitable Walker Pearce (born Apr 15, 1794). They were married Feb 12, 1825, and lived either in Randolph or Chatham County, North Carolina. Mehitable Walker Pearce was born in Pawling, Dutchess County, New York. She was the daughter of Daniel Pearce and Anstis Pearce. Any information would be appreciated. Jim Pearce Nuevo, Calif.

The 1790 census of Randolph Co. seems very similar to period tax lists - crudely alphabetized within militia districts with additions at the end of each district list.

On many of the early censuses, including this one as far as I can remember, the census images that are available, and some of the indexes in print and on line, developed from the census microfilms, are actually later transcriptions of the original census pages. The actual census records were old, and degrading.............. Whether done by county archivists, or volunteers interested in local history long ago, there were people who transcribed some of the very early census data before the originals became completely unreadable. This was wonderful!!! And I thank them!! Their efforts allowed *something* to survive from these old pages. Without their work, there might have been nothing at all. On the other hand, they often took sections/pages and alphabetized the listings so that it would be easier to retreive the most basic information. This was ***long before*** searchable databases et al...... But when you come across census information in which there is a pattern of a page or two that seems alphabetical, and then it seems that it starts again and runs alphabetical......... This is a transcribed census. You need to keep in mind that: 1. Differently from other census info, from these transcribed censuses, you cannot know *anything* about geographical proximity from listing to listing. Three Hendricks may be listed in sequence, but these Hendricks may have lived in different parts of the township. They did not necessarily live next door to each other. 2. This early transcription adds another layer of possible mistranscription and error. Nonetheless, I'm glad they did what they did. At least the basic information is still available in some form.......... Linda >Does any one know roughly what sequence the census takers used when they did >the 1790 census ,some parts of the census seem t o alphabetized , and >other parts random. Is there any way to tell sequentially where people lived >going by the census for example 285-86.gif as found on the Randolph gen >web site for 1790 starts out with a Jerimiah York it seems very random >down to about Elizabeth Aldridge , then it becomes alphabetical for a >while .then it again becomes apparently random .Did the census takers go >by certain districts,and alphabetize the folks according to name >disregarding their location ,and who their neighbors were ?

I know that the 1890 census of Randolph county is done in a North and South division. I am not sure about how they were done in 1780. But I do know it looks like some are alphabetized. I wonder if the people just lived in a group like that or the census taker just knew these people and went to their houses in that order. I am looking for the Southern division of Randolph county for the year 1890. The Wrenn records are in that sections of the census. Dee --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears

Does any one know roughly what sequence the census takers used when they did the 1790 census ,some parts of the census seem t o alphabetized , and other parts random. Is there any way to tell sequentially where people lived going by the census for example 285-86.gif as found on the Randolph gen web site for 1790 starts out with a Jerimiah York it seems very random down to about Elizabeth Aldridge , then it becomes alphabetical for a while .then it again becomes apparently random .Did the census takers go by certain districts,and alphabetize the folks according to name disregarding their location ,and who their neighbors were ? then find additional names in the district and just tack them on at the end . Is there is a way t o determine who may have lived next to whom , going by these census.? Can one determine at least the rough areas that one lived in ? any help with these is appreciated . Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message -----

In a message dated 10/24/03 2:13:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/424.435.269.661.1 Message Board Post: I wonder if anyone has proof that Elizabeth Fitzhugh b. about 1727 (I have 1728) married Samuel Smitherman. I've had several queries about it. I'm the Keeper of the Virginia Fitzhugh Database so am very interested in verifying this. Thanks Charleen >> Charleen - I have Samuel Smitherman in my files, but I have no idea who his wife was. Here are his children below him. Judy Presnell Canant Descendants of Samuel Smitherman 1 Samuel SMITHERMAN d: 1836 in Randolph Co, NC .2 Noah SMITHERMAN b: Bet. 1795 - 1800 in (Age is a guess) d: Aft. 1836 in (Was administrator of father's estate, Randolph Co) .....+Rebecca, W Of Noah Smitherman .2 Mary SMITHERMAN b: Aft. 1800 .....+John GRAVES b: 1800 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (a few mi south of Randolph Co line) m: Bef. 1825 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (They were married when Saml died) d: April 24, 1843 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN Father: Samuel Graves, Sr Mother: Zylphia Steed ..... 3 Jesse Smitherman GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 in Clay Co, IN (never married) d: in Travelled through SW, died and b in SW USA ..... 3 Samuel GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 ..... 3 Mary Jane GRAVES b: February 25, 1827 in Enroute from NC to IN (She m 1. John Williams, then his bro,2. Edw Williams d: January 30, 1902 ..... 3 Nancy Ann GRAVES b: May 07, 1829 in Clay Co, IN d: March 11, 1892 ..... 3 James W GRAVES b: January 22, 1831 ..... 3 Rebecca Smitherman GRAVES b: January 11, 1833 .........+John HENDRIX, Jr ..... 3 Margaret F GRAVES b: August 27, 1834 ..... 3 Noah Smitherman GRAVES b: March 06, 1836 ..... 3 John Wesley GRAVES b: January 28, 1840 .2 Nancy Ann SMITHERMAN b: 1805 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC d: December 17, 1847 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN .....+Harbard SPENCER m: Unknown .2 Jesse SMITHERMAN b: Bef. 1836 in (named an infant who sued his guardians, Noah S. and Harbard Spencer) ========== Here is what I found in the Randolph Co Journal on this family. (I can tell you that the Genealogical Journals of Randolph Co are just the best journals that I have ever seen. They are full of documents. If anyone on this line wants to get those, just contact the Randolph county Genealogical Society in Asheboro, NC. You can find them on line.) Genealogical Journal of Randolph Co NC Historical Society, Vol, XII, #1, Randolph Co Estates, pp 48-50, Estate of Samuel SMITHERMAN Petition to sell land - Tracts of Land: One near Caraway Mtn on which Wm ROBINS lives Tract adjoining James JOHNSON and Lewis SPINKS Tract adjoining Abraham BROWER Six tracts adjoining each other on waters of Fork Creek Tract on Bear Creek adjoining Johnson KING and others Tract called the BROWN place on Little River Other tracts on Little River; Samuel GRAVES place, Gilliam GRAVES place, Ben BOLING place, Christian LUTHER place, a tract adjoining John BOLING & the last mentioned place, Jacob LUTHER, Sr place, Jacob LUTHER, Jr. place, John LUTHER place, Price HAYS place, Elijah PRESNELL place.

In a message dated 10/24/03 2:13:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/424.435.269.661.1 Message Board Post: I wonder if anyone has proof that Elizabeth Fitzhugh b. about 1727 (I have 1728) married Samuel Smitherman. I've had several queries about it. I'm the Keeper of the Virginia Fitzhugh Database so am very interested in verifying this. Thanks Charleen >> Charleen - I have Samuel Smitherman in my files, but I have no idea who his wife was. Here are his children below him. Judy Presnell Canant Descendants of Samuel Smitherman 1 Samuel SMITHERMAN d: 1836 in Randolph Co, NC .2 Noah SMITHERMAN b: Bet. 1795 - 1800 in (Age is a guess) d: Aft. 1836 in (Was administrator of father's estate, Randolph Co) .....+Rebecca, W Of Noah Smitherman .2 Mary SMITHERMAN b: Aft. 1800 .....+John GRAVES b: 1800 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (a few mi south of Randolph Co line) m: Bef. 1825 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (They were married when Saml died) d: April 24, 1843 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN Father: Samuel Graves, Sr Mother: Zylphia Steed ..... 3 Jesse Smitherman GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 in Clay Co, IN (never married) d: in Travelled through SW, died and b in SW USA ..... 3 Samuel GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 ..... 3 Mary Jane GRAVES b: February 25, 1827 in Enroute from NC to IN (She m 1. John Williams, then his bro,2. Edw Williams d: January 30, 1902 ..... 3 Nancy Ann GRAVES b: May 07, 1829 in Clay Co, IN d: March 11, 1892 ..... 3 James W GRAVES b: January 22, 1831 ..... 3 Rebecca Smitherman GRAVES b: January 11, 1833 .........+John HENDRIX, Jr ..... 3 Margaret F GRAVES b: August 27, 1834 ..... 3 Noah Smitherman GRAVES b: March 06, 1836 ..... 3 John Wesley GRAVES b: January 28, 1840 .2 Nancy Ann SMITHERMAN b: 1805 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC d: December 17, 1847 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN .....+Harbard SPENCER m: Unknown .2 Jesse SMITHERMAN b: Bef. 1836 in (named an infant who sued his guardians, Noah S. and Harbard Spencer) ========== Here is what I found in the Randolph Co Journal on this family. (I can tell you that the Genealogical Journals of Randolph Co are just the best journals that I have ever seen. They are full of documents. If anyone on this line wants to get those, just contact the Randolph county Genealogical Society in Asheboro, NC. You can find them on line.) Genealogical Journal of Randolph Co NC Historical Society, Vol, XII, #1, Randolph Co Estates, pp 48-50, Estate of Samuel SMITHERMAN Petition to sell land - Tracts of Land: One near Caraway Mtn on which Wm ROBINS lives Tract adjoining James JOHNSON and Lewis SPINKS Tract adjoining Abraham BROWER Six tracts adjoining each other on waters of Fork Creek Tract on Bear Creek adjoining Johnson KING and others Tract called the BROWN place on Little River Other tracts on Little River; Samuel GRAVES place, Gilliam GRAVES place, Ben BOLING place, Christian LUTHER place, a tract adjoining John BOLING & the last mentioned place, Jacob LUTHER, Sr place, Jacob LUTHER, Jr. place, John LUTHER place, Price HAYS place, Elijah PRESNELL place.

In a message dated 10/24/03 2:13:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/424.435.269.661.1 Message Board Post: I wonder if anyone has proof that Elizabeth Fitzhugh b. about 1727 (I have 1728) married Samuel Smitherman. I've had several queries about it. I'm the Keeper of the Virginia Fitzhugh Database so am very interested in verifying this. Thanks Charleen >> Charleen - I have Samuel Smitherman in my files, but I have no idea who his wife was. Here are his children below him. Judy Presnell Canant Descendants of Samuel Smitherman 1 Samuel SMITHERMAN d: 1836 in Randolph Co, NC .2 Noah SMITHERMAN b: Bet. 1795 - 1800 in (Age is a guess) d: Aft. 1836 in (Was administrator of father's estate, Randolph Co) .....+Rebecca, W Of Noah Smitherman .2 Mary SMITHERMAN b: Aft. 1800 .....+John GRAVES b: 1800 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (a few mi south of Randolph Co line) m: Bef. 1825 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (They were married when Saml died) d: April 24, 1843 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN Father: Samuel Graves, Sr Mother: Zylphia Steed ..... 3 Jesse Smitherman GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 in Clay Co, IN (never married) d: in Travelled through SW, died and b in SW USA ..... 3 Samuel GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 ..... 3 Mary Jane GRAVES b: February 25, 1827 in Enroute from NC to IN (She m 1. John Williams, then his bro,2. Edw Williams d: January 30, 1902 ..... 3 Nancy Ann GRAVES b: May 07, 1829 in Clay Co, IN d: March 11, 1892 ..... 3 James W GRAVES b: January 22, 1831 ..... 3 Rebecca Smitherman GRAVES b: January 11, 1833 .........+John HENDRIX, Jr ..... 3 Margaret F GRAVES b: August 27, 1834 ..... 3 Noah Smitherman GRAVES b: March 06, 1836 ..... 3 John Wesley GRAVES b: January 28, 1840 .2 Nancy Ann SMITHERMAN b: 1805 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC d: December 17, 1847 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN .....+Harbard SPENCER m: Unknown .2 Jesse SMITHERMAN b: Bef. 1836 in (named an infant who sued his guardians, Noah S. and Harbard Spencer) ========== Here is what I found in the Randolph Co Journal on this family. (I can tell you that the Genealogical Journals of Randolph Co are just the best journals that I have ever seen. They are full of documents. If anyone on this line wants to get those, just contact the Randolph county Genealogical Society in Asheboro, NC. You can find them on line.) Genealogical Journal of Randolph Co NC Historical Society, Vol, XII, #1, Randolph Co Estates, pp 48-50, Estate of Samuel SMITHERMAN Petition to sell land - Tracts of Land: One near Caraway Mtn on which Wm ROBINS lives Tract adjoining James JOHNSON and Lewis SPINKS Tract adjoining Abraham BROWER Six tracts adjoining each other on waters of Fork Creek Tract on Bear Creek adjoining Johnson KING and others Tract called the BROWN place on Little River Other tracts on Little River; Samuel GRAVES place, Gilliam GRAVES place, Ben BOLING place, Christian LUTHER place, a tract adjoining John BOLING & the last mentioned place, Jacob LUTHER, Sr place, Jacob LUTHER, Jr. place, John LUTHER place, Price HAYS place, Elijah PRESNELL place.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/kUB.2ACE/276.2.1 Message Board Post: I am a descendent of Jacob A. Criscow, brother of Coonrod. Went to rootsweb.com but couldn't find "Crisco's rowdy friends". Be happy to hear from you if you want to talk about the Crisco Clan.

The Robert MOFFITT/Margaret STUART Family File website has been updated. There are 2,776 entries. Please remember, it's a work-in-progress meant for leads and clues and all information must be further verified and documented. NC-ers and CHAMNESS note: MOFFITTS intermarried CHAMNESS in Randolph Co., NO. There are many CHAMNESS entries. Please visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/moffitt/WC_TOC.HTM For other Family Files and Most Wanted pages please visit http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/ As always, any comments or corrections are most welcome mailto:[email protected] -- Yvonne Bowers, Listmom, Webmom MOFFITT, MOFFETT, MOFFAT and MOFFATT Mailing Lists & Message Boards MOFFITT Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/moffitt.html Robert MOFFITT & Margaret STUART Family File http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/moffitt/WC_TOC.HTM

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In a message dated 10/24/03 2:13:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kUB.2ACE/424.435.269.661.1 Message Board Post: I wonder if anyone has proof that Elizabeth Fitzhugh b. about 1727 (I have 1728) married Samuel Smitherman. I've had several queries about it. I'm the Keeper of the Virginia Fitzhugh Database so am very interested in verifying this. Thanks Charleen >> Charleen - I have Samuel Smitherman in my files, but I have no idea who his wife was. Here are his children below him. Judy Presnell Canant Descendants of Samuel Smitherman 1 Samuel SMITHERMAN d: 1836 in Randolph Co, NC .2 Noah SMITHERMAN b: Bet. 1795 - 1800 in (Age is a guess) d: Aft. 1836 in (Was administrator of father's estate, Randolph Co) .....+Rebecca, W Of Noah Smitherman .2 Mary SMITHERMAN b: Aft. 1800 .....+John GRAVES b: 1800 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (a few mi south of Randolph Co line) m: Bef. 1825 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC (They were married when Saml died) d: April 24, 1843 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN Father: Samuel Graves, Sr Mother: Zylphia Steed ..... 3 Jesse Smitherman GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 in Clay Co, IN (never married) d: in Travelled through SW, died and b in SW USA ..... 3 Samuel GRAVES b: August 25, 1825 ..... 3 Mary Jane GRAVES b: February 25, 1827 in Enroute from NC to IN (She m 1. John Williams, then his bro,2. Edw Williams d: January 30, 1902 ..... 3 Nancy Ann GRAVES b: May 07, 1829 in Clay Co, IN d: March 11, 1892 ..... 3 James W GRAVES b: January 22, 1831 ..... 3 Rebecca Smitherman GRAVES b: January 11, 1833 .........+John HENDRIX, Jr ..... 3 Margaret F GRAVES b: August 27, 1834 ..... 3 Noah Smitherman GRAVES b: March 06, 1836 ..... 3 John Wesley GRAVES b: January 28, 1840 .2 Nancy Ann SMITHERMAN b: 1805 in Troy, Montgomery Co, NC d: December 17, 1847 in Near Harmony, Van Buren Twp, Clay Co, IN .....+Harbard SPENCER m: Unknown .2 Jesse SMITHERMAN b: Bef. 1836 in (named an infant who sued his guardians, Noah S. and Harbard Spencer) ========== Here is what I found in the Randolph Co Journal on this family. (I can tell you that the Genealogical Journals of Randolph Co are just the best journals that I have ever seen. They are full of documents. If anyone on this line wants to get those, just contact the Randolph county Genealogical Society in Asheboro, NC. You can find them on line.) Genealogical Journal of Randolph Co NC Historical Society, Vol, XII, #1, Randolph Co Estates, pp 48-50, Estate of Samuel SMITHERMAN Petition to sell land - Tracts of Land: One near Caraway Mtn on which Wm ROBINS lives Tract adjoining James JOHNSON and Lewis SPINKS Tract adjoining Abraham BROWER Six tracts adjoining each other on waters of Fork Creek Tract on Bear Creek adjoining Johnson KING and others Tract called the BROWN place on Little River Other tracts on Little River; Samuel GRAVES place, Gilliam GRAVES place, Ben BOLING place, Christian LUTHER place, a tract adjoining John BOLING & the last mentioned place, Jacob LUTHER, Sr place, Jacob LUTHER, Jr. place, John LUTHER place, Price HAYS place, Elijah PRESNELL place.