Maybe this information will help some of you North carolina Gilliams 1830 Cencus Hawkins County Gilliam, John 22001-001001 page 55 Gilliam, Hinchea page55 o1210001-0211001 Joseph, Gilliam page55 00001-10001 1840 Tennessee Cencus Marian County Gilliam, Hinchey page 267 010010001-000000001 Gilliam Isham page 258 010101-201001 Gilliam, Joseph 110001-001001 page 266 Gilliam,Lemeul page 267 100001-10001 Gilliam, Thomas page251 1002010001-11 There is still a John living in Hawkins Gilliam, John page 203 112201-0100001 I have about three note books worth of gilliam notes...I am looking for the parents of Sarah Gilliam born in Virginia in 1980..somewhere..She was married to Frederick Fraker in Knox County,18 April 1808. There son William A. Fraker married Susanna Hall the Granddaughter of Thomas D. Hall of Orange County, NC. I have read all of the Knox county wills etc, in Tennessee and there is no connection to to Sarah except to Spencer Gilliam son of Thomas Gilliam who was killed by the indians in 1793. She does not appear to be his child, nor does she appear to be to Thomas Child. She was living very close to Spencer at the time of his death and her husband bought some of the inventory, but Sarah "Sally" was not listed as his daughter. There is a connection with this family but I cannot find it. I do not know if she came to Tenn. by way of Frederick County Va. with the Frakers, Milburns, Loyds, or if she came to Tennessee by way of Orange county with the Hall, Heins, perhaps any of the Orange folks becouse they all settled in Knox County, later Union County. Hopes this helps me <smile> and someone else...I still need information on those Halls. Thanks again Pat Graves Reagan 214 Adams Street Neenah, WI.54956 ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line