Carol - You hit the nail on the head. I, too, am a mixture of German (PA Mennonites, Lutherans, etc), plus Quakers, plus Scotch-Irish (maiden name Stephenson) & that's all just on my father's side. My mother's side are the New Enlanders. On top of that I married a Guenther (who's parents came from Germany in the 1920s). "Everything tidy & in its place" is SOOOOOOO true. I tease my husband (39 yrs) all the time about that trait of his. Of course it's really handy when it comes to finding things around the house! My GIFFORDS (Quakers) were in Orange Co in the late 1700s until abt 1815 when a large group went to Orange Co IN. Levi GIFFORD (according to minutes of Cane Creek) was b in MA & son of Peleg & Abigail. He marr Margaret WELLS 9m 1789 (Cane Creek MM) who was the dau of Joseph & Charity WELLS. I have an abstract of Joseph WELLS will in which he names Margret Gifford & his other children which I can post for other Wells descendents. I have many other Orange & Guilford Co relatives, KIRK, CROUSE, KERSEY, HIATT, WILLIAMS CARTER, etc. Carol - have you found any WELLS or CROUSE (or any variant spelling) in your Quaker notes. I have no proof that the CROUSE were Quakers. Sarah has a marr bond in Guilford Co to marry Eli KERSEY in 1826. They went on to IN w/ other Quakers & she is listed as becoming a member in IN in 1840 but, of course, she may have belonged before. Thanks for sharing, Nancy Stephenson Guenther ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line