Hello Claudia, My wife has informed you that the Roney name is associated with the part of Orange that became Alamance County in 1849. The Benjamin Roney mentioned in the deeds you provided was a son of James Roney. James Roney had been in the area that later became Richmond, VA, ....... settled in 1755 on Back Creek in the area of Orange County that became Alamance County, where it is intersected by Interstate 85. Benjamin Roney was married to Catherine Andrews ca 1774 in Orange County. Back Creek is in what is now the Melville Township of Alamance County before it merges with the Haw River just below the county seat of Graham, NC. This is also very near the area known as the Hawfields where Hawfield's Presbyterian Church was establised. Many of these families were perhaps attracted to the area by the following: "December 5, 1771 The Pennsylvania Gazette To be SOLD in small Tracts, ABOUT 30,000 acres of land, in Orange county, North-Carolina, commonly called the Haw-fields; the quality of these lands is so generally known, that it is needless to say any thing in recommendation of them, only this may be proper to mention, that they produce as good wheat as any in Pennsylvania, and being a strong soil, will bear extraordinary hemp, flax, and tobacco; there is navigation within 70 miles, several reputable merchants having lately established stores at Cross-creek, the want of which formerly obliged the inhabitants of Orange county to carry their flour sometimes 180 miles by land; this inconvenience being obviated by the settlement at Cross-creek abovementioned, and the peace of the country being now happily restored, and settled upon a solid foundation, there is no doubt but this part of it will shortly become as flourishing as any in America. WANTED, a person who is perfectly master of the cultivation and management of hemp, with regard to the water rotting. &c. Any one so qualified, and willing to go to North Carolina to superintend a hemp plantation for such a part of the profit as shall be agreed upon between him and the proprietor of the land and negroes, may apply to Mr. JOHN BIDDLE, at the Sign of the Indian King, in Market-street, Philadelphia. N. B. The proprietor may be met with at the Secretary’s-Office, at Newbern, in North-Carolina, during the winter months, and in the summer season at Hillsborough, within 12 miles of the Haw-fields, and Mr. JOHN WOOD, who lives upon the land, will shew any of the tracts to those that are inclinable to become purchasers." I apologize for what appears to be a history lesson of the area, but hopefully some of this may give you insights into where you might look for the earlier origins of your Walraven family, as most of the families who settled that very specific area of Orange, did hark back to Pennsylvania and adjacent areas of Delaware and Maryland. Very best regards John Fox Winston Salem, NC -----Original Message----- From: Claudia Brumbalow <poohbear2@communicomm.com> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:19 pm Subject: [NCORANGE] John Walraven I need help on the following and would appreciate any help; I know that John Walraven was in Orange Co. NC by the following but have not been able to find anything else on him in North Carolina. I know that his wife Elizabeth received two draws in the 1827 Land Lottery of Georgia. One of the draws she is listed as (wid R. S.) I have not been able to find if John Walraven served in the Rev War in North Carolina or not. I know that he died Sept. 6, 1814 in Franklin Co., Ga. and he is listed on the 1790 Census in Abbyville, South Carolina. North Carolina tax List 1679- 1790 volume two - John Waldraven, Orange county, 1779 ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 4 P. 21, 28 September 1786, John Walraven Orange, singular, and Elizabeth his wife to John McMurty (no county given), seventy five pounds, 150 acres, on both sides Scrub Cr., bounded on N by land of Deharty Allen & on S by Benjamin Roney, granted Walraven 13 March 1789, begin at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a white oak, N 30 ch. to a white oak, E 50 ch. to a hickory, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: John Walraven, Elizabeth (x) Walraven; witness; Dougharty Allen, James McMurtery; proved August 1788 Term by John McMurtery. (Ed. notes: see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 in name of John Walraven.) ORANGE COUNTY STATE LAND GRANTS. 301,32:449, Benjamin Roney, beginning at a Black Jack thence West fifty Ch to a hickory thence North, thirty Ch to a Black Jack thence East fifty Ch to a White oak thence South thirty Ch to the first Station, surveyed August 7th 1779 by John Harrington DpSur, John Allen & John King SCC, on Scrub Creek a branch of Quaker Creek Bounded on the North by land of John Walmaven, Running South for Complement, Including his Improvement. ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 2 p. 312 March 1780, North Carolina to Benjamin Roney, fifty shillings per hundred acres, 150 acres, on Serub Cr. a Branch of Quaker Cr., bound on N by John Walraven, being at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a hickory, N 30 ch to a black jack, E 50 ch, to a white oak, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: Richard Caswell; witness: none given; no probate records. (Ed. notes see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA (1890 ) - 146 Aug Term 1788 The Execution of a Deed from John Walraven & Wife to John McMurtery was duly proved in open Court by the Oath of James McHurtery one of the subscribing Witnesses thereto & ordered to be Registered. This can be found in the "Reprint of Official Register of Land Lottery of Georgia 1827" Compiled and Published by Miss Martha Lou Houston Southern Historical Press, Inc. c/o The Rev. S. Emmett Lucas, Jr. P.O. Box 738 Easley, South Carolina 29641-0738 page 117 Gwinnett Co. Elizabeth Wallraven, wid. Greens No. 193 Dt. 8 Sec. 1 Page 199 Gwinnett Co. Eliz. Waldraven, w. R. S. Greens No. 225 Dt. 23 Sec 1 The above were sold at her death and are listed in the court records of Franklin Co., Ga. Her name is spelled different on the lottery both is proven as the same person in the Franklin Co., Ga. records. 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John, I like your "history lesson." I'm searching in the general area you discuss below, and it makes things more interesting to have better descriptions. Thanks, Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] John Walraven in Orange/Alamance > Hello Claudia, > > My wife has informed you that the Roney name is associated with the > part of Orange that became Alamance County in 1849. > > The Benjamin Roney mentioned in the deeds you provided was a son of > James Roney. James Roney had been in the area that later became > Richmond, VA, ....... settled in 1755 on Back Creek in the area of > Orange County that became Alamance County, where it is intersected by > Interstate 85. Benjamin Roney was married to Catherine Andrews ca 1774 > in Orange County. Back Creek is in what is now the Melville Township > of Alamance County before it merges with the Haw River just below the > county seat of Graham, NC. This is also very near the area known as > the Hawfields where Hawfield's Presbyterian Church was establised. > Many of these families were perhaps attracted to the area by the > following: > > "December 5, 1771 > The Pennsylvania Gazette > > To be SOLD in small Tracts, ABOUT 30,000 acres of land, in Orange > county, North-Carolina, commonly called the Haw-fields; the quality of > these lands is so generally known, that it is needless to say any thing > in recommendation of them, only this may be proper to mention, that > they produce as good wheat as any in Pennsylvania, and being a strong > soil, will bear extraordinary hemp, flax, and tobacco; there is > navigation within 70 miles, several reputable merchants having lately > established stores at Cross-creek, the want of which formerly obliged > the inhabitants of Orange county to carry their flour sometimes 180 > miles by land; this inconvenience being obviated by the settlement at > Cross-creek abovementioned, and the peace of the country being now > happily restored, and settled upon a solid foundation, there is no > doubt but this part of it will shortly become as flourishing as any in > America. > > WANTED, a person who is perfectly master of the cultivation and > management of hemp, with regard to the water rotting. &c. Any one so > qualified, and willing to go to North Carolina to superintend a hemp > plantation for such a part of the profit as shall be agreed upon > between him and the proprietor of the land and negroes, may apply to > Mr. JOHN BIDDLE, at the Sign of the Indian King, in Market-street, > Philadelphia. > > N. B. The proprietor may be met with at the Secretary’s-Office, at > Newbern, in North-Carolina, during the winter months, and in the summer > season at Hillsborough, within 12 miles of the Haw-fields, and Mr. JOHN > WOOD, who lives upon the land, will shew any of the tracts to those > that are inclinable to become purchasers." > > I apologize for what appears to be a history lesson of the area, but > hopefully some of this may give you insights into where you might look > for the earlier origins of your Walraven family, as most of the > families who settled that very specific area of Orange, did hark back > to Pennsylvania and adjacent areas of Delaware and Maryland. > > Very best regards > > John Fox > Winston Salem, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Claudia Brumbalow <poohbear2@communicomm.com> > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:19 pm > Subject: [NCORANGE] John Walraven > > I need help on the following and would appreciate any help; > > I know that John Walraven was in Orange Co. NC by the following but > have not > been able to find anything else on him in North Carolina. I know that > his > wife Elizabeth received two draws in the 1827 Land Lottery of Georgia. > One of the draws she is listed as (wid R. S.) I have not been able to > find > if John Walraven served in the Rev War in North Carolina or not. I > know > that he died Sept. 6, 1814 in Franklin Co., Ga. and he is listed on the > 1790 Census in Abbyville, South Carolina. > > North Carolina tax List 1679- 1790 volume two - John Waldraven, Orange > county, 1779 > > ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 4 > P. 21, 28 September 1786, John Walraven Orange, singular, and Elizabeth > his > wife to John McMurty (no county given), seventy five pounds, 150 acres, > on > both sides Scrub Cr., bounded on N by land of Deharty Allen & on S by > Benjamin Roney, granted Walraven 13 March 1789, begin at a black jack, > W 50 > ch. to a white oak, N 30 ch. to a white oak, E 50 ch. to a hickory, S > 30 ch. > to first station; signed: John Walraven, Elizabeth (x) Walraven; > witness; > Dougharty Allen, James McMurtery; proved August 1788 Term by John > McMurtery. > (Ed. notes: see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 in name of John > Walraven.) > > ORANGE COUNTY STATE LAND GRANTS. > 301,32:449, Benjamin Roney, beginning at a Black Jack thence West fifty > Ch > to a hickory thence North, thirty Ch to a Black Jack thence East fifty > Ch > to a White oak thence South thirty Ch to the first Station, surveyed > August > 7th 1779 by John Harrington DpSur, John Allen & John King SCC, on Scrub > Creek a branch of Quaker Creek Bounded on the North by land of John > Walmaven, Running South for Complement, Including his Improvement. > > ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 2 > p. 312 March 1780, North Carolina to Benjamin Roney, fifty shillings > per > hundred acres, 150 acres, on Serub Cr. a Branch of Quaker Cr., bound on > N by > John Walraven, being at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a hickory, N 30 ch > to a > black jack, E 50 ch, to a white oak, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: > Richard Caswell; witness: none given; no probate records. > (Ed. notes see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 > > ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA > (1890 ) - 146 Aug Term 1788 > The Execution of a Deed from John Walraven & Wife to John McMurtery was > duly > proved in open Court by the Oath of James McHurtery one of the > subscribing > Witnesses thereto & ordered to be Registered. > > > This can be found in the "Reprint of Official Register of Land Lottery > of > Georgia 1827" Compiled and Published by Miss Martha Lou Houston > Southern > Historical Press, Inc. c/o The Rev. S. Emmett Lucas, Jr. P.O. Box 738 > Easley, South Carolina 29641-0738 > page 117 Gwinnett Co. Elizabeth Wallraven, wid. Greens No. 193 Dt. > 8 > Sec. 1 > > Page 199 Gwinnett Co. Eliz. Waldraven, w. R. S. Greens No. 225 Dt. > 23 Sec > 1 > > The above were sold at her death and are listed in the court records of > Franklin Co., Ga. Her name is spelled different on the lottery both is > proven as the same person in the Franklin Co., Ga. records. > > Claudia