Betty, The book is about Orange Co., not genealogy per se...the origin of the county, all the churches, when founded and by whom, etc. The author, Lefler, taught history at UNC, and also wrote a bk. called North Carolina. There are names and photos in both but just the movers and shakers. Pg. 15, the abstract I sent, is all that there is about German settlers in Orange Co. Bebe -----Original Message----- From: bjrb@hotmail.com To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. Thank you, Bebe. If this book is about Germans it won't help further my families histories, but I am also interested in history in general. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > Orange County 1752-1952 by Lefler and Wagner. > > > > Bebe > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bjrb@hotmail.com > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 5:56 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > Bebe, > > What book are you are referencing? I am interested in Orange County > pre-1800. My primary surnames are ROACH, THOMPSON & MIDDLETON. > > Thank you, > > Betty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner > bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > >> Germans held land west of the Haw River...were Lutheran...came down the >> Great Wagon Rd. from PA as land was getting too exp. there...some >> surnames >> were Clapp on the Alamance in 1752. Michael Holt on the Great AND Little >> Alamance. Faust had land on Cain Crk.. Trolinger on w. bank of the Haw >> River. Also mentioned wsere Albright, Sharp, Snotherly, and >> Ephland/Efland. >> >> Ruth Blackwellder wrote this section. The bk. was written, then published >> in 1952 to commemorated the erection of Orange thus named...Orange County >> 1752-1952. The Chatham history followed suit and did their book Chatham >> County 1771-1971. My step grandmother, Nell Craig Strowd was a co-author. >> >> Bebe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RLMLFM@aol.com >> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 2:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance >> >> Carl, >> >> No, I don't believe this Mary Adams who married Henry Simpson 7 Oct 1837 >> in >> Orange County, NC is a part of my line. Oddly enough though, my William >> ADAMS married Eleanor SIMPSON 18 March 1795 in Rowan County, NC. >> >> You never know, they still could somehow be related through one of these >> families. There is about 42 years between the two marriage dates, a lot >> can >> happen in that amount of time. >> >> Linda Monticelli >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of >> the message >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free >> from AOL at AOL.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Thank you. I'll see if the Texas State Library has the book. If there are other books you can recommend, I'd appreciate your advice. My ancestors left Orange County sometime after 1800 and before they appeared on a tax list in Grainger County TN in 1807. My 5th g-grandfather, James ROACH died in Orange County NC Feb-May 1792, and his widow married a John READING or REDDING in 1797 or 1798. I have found no trace of either of them since they sold her dower. The widow, Ann, may have been the daughter of Samuel THOMPSON. I cannot find his will, and perhaps there wasn't a legitimate one. After Henry O'DANIEL demanded that the will be produced in court, no further mention has been found. Before Ann married John Reading/Redding, she indentured all of her children except the two oldest in Orange and Person Counties. I have those documents. James owned 182 acres of land at the headwaters of the Haw River. His mother was alive and living with him when he died, but he does not mention her by name. She may have been an ASHCRAFT. I've just about run out my string in Orange County, so if anyone has any information that might help me, I'd be most grateful. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > Betty, > > The book is about Orange Co., not genealogy per se...the origin of the > county, all the churches, when founded and by whom, etc. The author, > Lefler, taught history at UNC, and also wrote a bk. called North Carolina. > There are names and photos in both but just the movers and shakers. > > Pg. 15, the abstract I sent, is all that there is about German settlers in > Orange Co. > > Bebe > > -----Original Message----- > From: bjrb@hotmail.com > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 8:39 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > Thank you, Bebe. If this book is about Germans it won't help further my > families histories, but I am also interested in history in general. > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:25 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner > bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > >> Orange County 1752-1952 by Lefler and Wagner. >> >> >> >> Bebe >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bjrb@hotmail.com >> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 5:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> Bebe, >> >> What book are you are referencing? I am interested in Orange County >> pre-1800. My primary surnames are ROACH, THOMPSON & MIDDLETON. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Betty >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner >> bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> >>> Germans held land west of the Haw River...were Lutheran...came down the >>> Great Wagon Rd. from PA as land was getting too exp. there...some >>> surnames >>> were Clapp on the Alamance in 1752. Michael Holt on the Great AND Little >>> Alamance. Faust had land on Cain Crk.. Trolinger on w. bank of the Haw >>> River. Also mentioned wsere Albright, Sharp, Snotherly, and >>> Ephland/Efland. >>> >>> Ruth Blackwellder wrote this section. The bk. was written, then >>> published >>> in 1952 to commemorated the erection of Orange thus named...Orange >>> County >>> 1752-1952. The Chatham history followed suit and did their book Chatham >>> County 1771-1971. My step grandmother, Nell Craig Strowd was a >>> co-author. >>> >>> Bebe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RLMLFM@aol.com >>> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 2:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance >>> >>> Carl, >>> >>> No, I don't believe this Mary Adams who married Henry Simpson 7 Oct 1837 >>> in >>> Orange County, NC is a part of my line. Oddly enough though, my William >>> ADAMS married Eleanor SIMPSON 18 March 1795 in Rowan County, NC. >>> >>> You never know, they still could somehow be related through one of these >>> families. There is about 42 years between the two marriage dates, a lot >>> can >>> happen in that amount of time. >>> >>> Linda Monticelli >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >>> http://www.aol.com. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body >>> of >>> the message >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Betty, I don't see these specific names in the index but this book just hits the high spots regarding surnames. There aren't any genealogical references at all. I think the books which index the actions of the people in particular will be your best bet...wills, estate settlements/inventories/land transactions, etc. but sounds like you have already checked them out. I guess you've checked Rootsweb to see if someone has the same descent as yours, not they are necessarily correct, but could contain clues. Bebe -----Original Message----- From: bjrb@hotmail.com To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. Thank you. I'll see if the Texas State Library has the book. If there are other books you can recommend, I'd appreciate your advice. My ancestors left Orange County sometime after 1800 and before they appeared on a tax list in Grainger County TN in 1807. My 5th g-grandfather, James ROACH died in Orange County NC Feb-May 1792, and his widow married a John READING or REDDING in 1797 or 1798. I have found no trace of either of them since they sold her dower. The widow, Ann, may have been the daughter of Samuel THOMPSON. I cannot find his will, and perhaps there wasn't a legitimate one. After Henry O'DANIEL demanded that the will be produced in court, no further mention has been found. Before Ann married John Reading/Redding, she indentured all of her children except the two oldest in Orange and Person Counties. I have those documents. James owned 182 acres of land at the headwaters of the Haw River. His mother was alive and living with him when he died, but he does not mention her by name. She may have been an ASHCRAFT. I've just about run out my string in Orange County, so if anyone has any information that might help me, I'd be most grateful. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > Betty, > > The book is about Orange Co., not genealogy per se...the origin of the > county, all the churches, when founded and by whom, etc. The author, > Lefler, taught history at UNC, and also wrote a bk. called North Carolina. > There are names and photos in both but just the movers and shakers. > > Pg. 15, the abstract I sent, is all that there is about German settlers in > Orange Co. > > Bebe > > -----Original Message----- > From: bjrb@hotmail.com > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 8:39 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > Thank you, Bebe. If this book is about Germans it won't help further my > families histories, but I am also interested in history in general. > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:25 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner > bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > >> Orange County 1752-1952 by Lefler and Wagner. >> >> >> >> Bebe >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bjrb@hotmail.com >> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 5:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> Bebe, >> >> What book are you are referencing? I am interested in Orange County >> pre-1800. My primary surnames are ROACH, THOMPSON & MIDDLETON. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Betty >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner >> bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> >>> Germans held land west of the Haw River...were Lutheran...came down the >>> Great Wagon Rd. from PA as land was getting too exp. there...some >>> surnames >>> were Clapp on the Alamance in 1752. Michael Holt on the Great AND Little >>> Alamance. Faust had land on Cain Crk.. Trolinger on w. bank of the Haw >>> River. Also mentioned wsere Albright, Sharp, Snotherly, and >>> Ephland/Efland. >>> >>> Ruth Blackwellder wrote this section. The bk. was written, then >>> published >>> in 1952 to commemorated the erection of Orange thus named...Orange >>> County >>> 1752-1952. The Chatham history followed suit and did their book Chatham >>> County 1771-1971. My step grandmother, Nell Craig Strowd was a >>> co-author. >>> >>> Bebe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RLMLFM@aol.com >>> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 2:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance >>> >>> Carl, >>> >>> No, I don't believe this Mary Adams who married Henry Simpson 7 Oct 1837 >>> in >>> Orange County, NC is a part of my line. Oddly enough though, my William >>> ADAMS married Eleanor SIMPSON 18 March 1795 in Rowan County, NC. >>> >>> You never know, they still could somehow be related through one of these >>> families. There is about 42 years between the two marriage dates, a lot >>> can >>> happen in that amount of time. >>> >>> Linda Monticelli >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >>> http://www.aol.com. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body >>> of >>> the message >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Bebe, Yes, I have checked everywhere I can think of. I have a wide circle of researchers and we are all in the same boat. I am hoping that someone on this list has a connection and/or information that I have not been able to find. Likewise, perhaps I can help someone else. Thank you, Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > Betty, I don't see these specific names in the index but this book just > hits the high spots regarding surnames. There aren't any genealogical > references at all. I think the books which index the actions of the people > in particular will be your best bet...wills, estate > settlements/inventories/land transactions, etc. but sounds like you have > already checked them out. I guess you've checked Rootsweb to see if > someone has the same descent as yours, not they are necessarily correct, > but could contain clues. > > Bebe > > -----Original Message----- > From: bjrb@hotmail.com > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > Thank you. I'll see if the Texas State Library has the book. If there > are > other books you can recommend, I'd appreciate your advice. > > My ancestors left Orange County sometime after 1800 and before they > appeared > on a tax list in Grainger County TN in 1807. My 5th g-grandfather, James > ROACH died in Orange County NC Feb-May 1792, and his widow married a John > READING or REDDING in 1797 or 1798. I have found no trace of either of > them since they sold her dower. The widow, Ann, may have been the > daughter > of Samuel THOMPSON. I cannot find his will, and perhaps there wasn't a > legitimate one. After Henry O'DANIEL demanded that the will be produced > in > court, no further mention has been found. Before Ann married John > Reading/Redding, she indentured all of her children except the two oldest > in > Orange and Person Counties. I have those documents. > > James owned 182 acres of land at the headwaters of the Haw River. His > mother was alive and living with him when he died, but he does not mention > her by name. She may have been an ASHCRAFT. > > I've just about run out my string in Orange County, so if anyone has any > information that might help me, I'd be most grateful. > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner > bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > >> Betty, >> >> The book is about Orange Co., not genealogy per se...the origin of the >> county, all the churches, when founded and by whom, etc. The author, >> Lefler, taught history at UNC, and also wrote a bk. called North >> Carolina. >> There are names and photos in both but just the movers and shakers. >> >> Pg. 15, the abstract I sent, is all that there is about German settlers >> in >> Orange Co. >> >> Bebe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bjrb@hotmail.com >> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 8:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> Thank you, Bebe. If this book is about Germans it won't help further my >> families histories, but I am also interested in history in general. >> >> Betty >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner >> bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> >>> Orange County 1752-1952 by Lefler and Wagner. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bebe >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bjrb@hotmail.com >>> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 5:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >>> Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >>> >>> Bebe, >>> >>> What book are you are referencing? I am interested in Orange County >>> pre-1800. My primary surnames are ROACH, THOMPSON & MIDDLETON. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Betty >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:56 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >>> Wagner >>> bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >>> >>> >>>> Germans held land west of the Haw River...were Lutheran...came down >>>> the >>>> Great Wagon Rd. from PA as land was getting too exp. there...some >>>> surnames >>>> were Clapp on the Alamance in 1752. Michael Holt on the Great AND >>>> Little >>>> Alamance. Faust had land on Cain Crk.. Trolinger on w. bank of the Haw >>>> River. Also mentioned wsere Albright, Sharp, Snotherly, and >>>> Ephland/Efland. >>>> >>>> Ruth Blackwellder wrote this section. The bk. was written, then >>>> published >>>> in 1952 to commemorated the erection of Orange thus named...Orange >>>> County >>>> 1752-1952. The Chatham history followed suit and did their book Chatham >>>> County 1771-1971. My step grandmother, Nell Craig Strowd was a >>>> co-author. >>>> >>>> Bebe >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: RLMLFM@aol.com >>>> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 2:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance >>>> >>>> Carl, >>>> >>>> No, I don't believe this Mary Adams who married Henry Simpson 7 Oct >>>> 1837 >>>> in >>>> Orange County, NC is a part of my line. Oddly enough though, my >>>> William >>>> ADAMS married Eleanor SIMPSON 18 March 1795 in Rowan County, NC. >>>> >>>> You never know, they still could somehow be related through one of >>>> these >>>> families. There is about 42 years between the two marriage dates, a >>>> lot >>>> can >>>> happen in that amount of time. >>>> >>>> Linda Monticelli >