Carl, I, too am very interested in the Simpson line in Orange County now considered Alamance. My husband line starts with Lemeul Simpson born in 1796 and died in Alamance in 1881. He had many children. We are assuming Lemuel's father was Benjamin Swain Simpson whose father is Samuel Simpson of whom you are talking about. We have not been able to prove the Benjamin Swain connection to Lemeul and would love to know more. Please let me know what connections if any you might have. Thank you Shauna Simpson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Shumaker" <carls4603@insightbb.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance > Linda, > > I have a marriage for bride Mary Adams and groom Henry Simpson, dated 7 > Oct > 1837, Orange County, with bondsman Jacob O. Hurdle, witness J Taylor. By > chance, is this part of your "Adam" line? I have interests in the Adams, > Simpson and Hurdle families of Orange County, particularly during the > period > 1800-1850. I have not been able to get very far with these names, and > would > appreciate hearing from anyone with information to share. My Samuel > Simpson > arrived in Orange County ca 1796, was a schoolmaster, Revolutionary War > veteran, and I have a grerat deal of information about his immediate > family, > but need to go further. Henry may have been his grandson, but I can't > prove > it.... > > Carl Shumaker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RLMLFM@aol.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance > > >> I'm glad that you enjoyed this website, I also found this very >> interesting >> reading. My 6th great grandfather Johannes Adam was an early German >> settler >> in Rowan County, NC, he was the first potter in the state of North >> Carolina. >> >> Linda Monticelli >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bill Do you have Caudle, Candle, Cannele, Caudill spellinging your Line? I saw a Census where the children last name was spelled different ways. Jesse Caudle b around 1840-50 is my line. He was in Chatham Co NC. till abt 1812. Part of Chatham and Orange were the same Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Caddell" <bcaddell@charter.net> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE > John et al - > > Which family do you belong? I have 45 yrs of family history on the CADDELL > (L) in the US. (1750s - current). > > Bill Caddell > Granbury, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JOHN H CADDELL" <brendajohn@verizon.net> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE > > >> What does it mean to be indentured? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

There has been a lot of talk the last few days about the Cate/Cates. I thought I would add my line and see if it ties in or anyone has any info. The first few generations, I have not been fully able to verify. They were given to me by a cousin without any sources. I am still working on them. Generation 1 William Abraham Cate - born before 1846 and died after 1669 (possibly England for both). He married Margaret Agnes (--?--). Two known sons: Robert Ezra Cate and Richard Nehemiah Cate. Generation 2 Robert Ezra Cate born 1667 and died after 9 April 1728 in Surry County, Virginia. He married Ann A. (--?--). She was born abt 1672 and died after February 1729. They had 6 sons: Capt. Robert Cate, William Cate, Thomas Cate Sr., Benjamin Cate, John Cate, and Richard Cate. Generation 3 Capt. Robert Cate born abt. 1700 in Virginia and died after 5 Nov 1765 & by March 1767 in Orange County, North Carolina. He married Elizabeth Wyatt. They had 6 children: Thomas Cate, John Cates, Richard Cates, Sarah Cates, Joseph Cates, and Barnard Cates. Generation 4 (this is where I have most proven from) Thomas Cate born about 1730 and died abt 1817 in Newberry County, South Carolina. He married Elizabeth Fussell. They had 10 children: Thomas K. Cates, Robert Cates, Elizabeth Cates, Aaron Cates, Mary Cates, Isaiah Cates, Ezra Cates, Jehu Cates, Susannah Cate, and Nancy Ann Cate. Generation 5 Isaiah Cates born abt 1769 in Orange County, North Carolina and died Before 7 July 1806 in South Carolina. He married Jane O'Daniel on 10 Feb 1794 in Orange County, North Carolina. She was born abt 1767 and died 21 Oct 1850 in Orange County, North Carolina. Note: I have always seen that she died in Orange County, but she was enumerated on the 1850 census in the home of her daughter Susan in Lewis County, Tennessee. It is possible that she returned home after the census and died that year. Generation 6 Susanna "Susan" Cates born 1805 in South Carolina and died 15 May 1875 in Maury County, Tennessee. She married Sandy Duke who was born between 1801 and 1810 and died before 1850 in Maury County, Tennessee. Sandy Duke is a complete mystery to me almost. I have always heard things about him, and know that the city of Sandy Hook in Maury County was supposed to have been named after him. As to what his name really was I have no idea. I think he came from Orange County to Maury County, but cannot tie him to any other Dukes. My best theory is that his real name was William Alexander Duke and they called him Sandy, but I can't prove that. That theory is based on the fact that a grandson (William Alexander Lindsey) was said through family tradition to be named after a grandfather. He is the most likely one. I also know that Sandy was sometimes a nickname for Alexander. The other part of the theory is that Sandy & Susan had one son and they named him William. Thier children were: 1) Nancy M. Duke who married David W. Johnson 2) Elizabeth A. Duke 3) Martha Jane Duke who married John S. Lindsey (my 3rd Great Grandparents) 4) William G. Duke who married Nancy McFall 5) Mary E. Duke who married Anderson N. Gibson 6) Sarah Adeline Duke who married Perrin M. Wright Jr. All these families lived in the Lewis County & Maury County areas of Tennessee and still have many descendants here. They lived in neighborhoods with many other families who came from Orange County: the Craigs, the Pickards, the Stockards, the Williams, the Lindseys, etc.

John et al - Which family do you belong? I have 45 yrs of family history on the CADDELL (L) in the US. (1750s - current). Bill Caddell Granbury, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN H CADDELL" <brendajohn@verizon.net> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE > What does it mean to be indentured?

Have seen alot of Cates messages of late. I am looking for ancestress Grizzy Ann Cate(s) born in TN. Parents possibly James and Sarah Elizabeth Unknown. James possibly born in TN, but have a feeling he is descended from SC Cates. Does this sound familiar to anybody? Thanks. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> > Here is my Cates line. > > > > Descendants of David Cates > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. DAVID1 CATES He married MARY WORKMAN. > > > > Child of DAVID CATES and MARY WORKMAN is: > > 2. i. WILLIAM SAUNDERS2 CATES, b. 1815, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. 1891, Orange County, North Carolina. > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. WILLIAM SAUNDERS2 CATES (DAVID1) was born 1815 in Orange County, North > Carolina, and died 1891 in Orange County, North Carolina. He married > SUSANNAH CHEEK 19 May 1838 in Orange, North Carolina, daughter of JOHN CHEEK > and SUSANNAH (ESTES). She was born 1822 in Orange County, North Carolina, > and died Abt. 1900 in Durham County, North Carolina. > > > > Notes for WILLIAM SAUNDERS CATES: > > Also see as "Sanders" Cates. Also I find born abt. 1815 and died abt. > 1880-1900. > > > > Notes for SUSANNAH CHEEK: > > According to researcher L. W. Cates the Death date is sometime between > 1900 - 1910. > > > > > > Children of WILLIAM CATES and SUSANNAH CHEEK are: > > i. MARY JANE3 CATES, b. 26 Mar 1839, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. 11 Dec 1916, Cross Roads Baptist Church, Orange, North > Carolina; m. WASHINGTON PLEASANT ROBERTS, 20 Dec 1860; b. 15 Dec 1838; d. 28 > Feb 1906, Cross Roads Baptist Church, Orange, North Carolina. > > 3. ii. JOHN E. CATES, b. 22 Oct 1840, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. 18 Jun 1915, Orange County, North Carolina. > > iii. MARTHA E. CATES, b. 28 Feb 1844, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. 30 Nov 1921, Orange County, North Carolina; m. ALFRED > CARR, 07 Oct 1866, Orange, North Carolina; b. 24 May 1839, North Carolina; > d. 06 Feb 1931. > > iv. SUSAN ELLEN CATES, b. 04 Jul 1846, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. 14 Jun 1900, Chesnutt Ridge Methodist Church in Orange > Co., North CarolinaNorth Carolina; m. JOHN WILLIAM SYKES, 11 Oct 1866, North > Carolina; b. Oct 1844, North Carolina; d. 02 Dec 1918, North Carolina. > > v. EMMA CAROLINE CATES, b. 1850, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. Abt. 1892; m. WILLIAM HENRY CATES, 05 Jun 1870; b. Apr > 1850. > > > > Notes for EMMA CAROLINE CATES: > > Per researcher L. W. Cates, death date is between 1892-1899. > > > > 4. vi. TULAH HOMER CATES, b. 12 Apr 1854, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. 23 Mar 1913, Maplewood Cemetery, Durham, North Carolina. > > 5. vii. MARGARET LITHIA CATES, b. 1858, Orange County, > North Carolina; d. Abt. 1881. > > > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > 3. JOHN E.3 CATES (WILLIAM SAUNDERS2, DAVID1) was born 22 Oct 1840 in > Orange County, North Carolina, and died 18 Jun 1915 in Orange County, North > Carolina. He married ELIZA JENNET REEVES 29 Jan 1861 in Durham, North > Carolina, daughter of FREDERICK REEVES and NANCY SMITH. She was born 23 Mar > 1846 in Orange County, North Carolina, and died 03 Apr 1923 in Durham, North > Carolina. > > > > > > Child of JOHN CATES and ELIZA REEVES is: > > i. LILLIE4 CATES, m. UNKNOWN GRESHAM. > > > > > > 4. TULAH HOMER3 CATES (WILLIAM SAUNDERS2, DAVID1) was born 12 Apr 1854 in > Orange County, North Carolina, and died 23 Mar 1913 in Maplewood Cemetery, > Durham, North Carolina. She married JAMES ALPHONSO ALLEN 15 Feb 1874 in > Bingham, Orange, North Carolina. He was born 06 Sep 1852 in North > Carolina, and died 31 Dec 1918 in Maplewood Cemetery, Durham, North > Carolina. > > > > More About TULAH HOMER CATES: > > Burial: Maplewood Cemetery, Durham, North Carolina > > > > > > 5. MARGARET LITHIA3 CATES (WILLIAM SAUNDERS2, DAVID1) was born 1858 in > Orange County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1881. She married FREDERICK > SAMPSON REEVES 20 Sep 1878 in Orange, North Carolina, son of JOHN REEVES and > MINERVA WILLIAMS. He was born 15 Jun 1853, and died 26 Dec 1911 in > Crossroads Baptist Church, Orange, North Carolina. > > > > Notes for MARGARET LITHIA CATES: > > Per Researcher, L.W. Cates, Margaret died sometime between 1881-1886. > > > > > > Child of MARGARET CATES and FREDERICK REEVES is: > > i. EFFIE L.4 REEVES, b. Jul 1879. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to identify a Sara C. Allen whose 1847 sampler was passed down to me from my Great-grandmother, Francis Hall Berry. It was removed from the home of William A. Hunley (1872-1936) and his wife Eugenia Noble Allen (1869-1937). Both are buried at Berry's Grove Baptist Church in Timberlake. Buried nearby is Sallie Allen (1878-1899), wife of Chas (not buried with her). William was the son of Sam Hunley & Mary Ann Berry. Eugenia was the daughter of Nelson Noble and Mary Allen. I presume there is some relationship between Sallie Allen, Mary Allen, and Sara C. Allen. I would like to establish the sampler-maker's identity and also determine what, if any, relationship there is between Sara and my Berry or other lines, which would make this artifact a family heirloom, not just an antique. Alex Long Durham.

Thank you for explaining that. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bjrb@hotmail.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE > Indenture means that the mother entered into a contract for couples to > take > the children and raise them to a specified age, usually age 18. You might > hear it also referred to as "apprenticed out." The children usually had > to > perform some type of work as a part of the contract. Often, it didn't > work > out very well, and the children were often treated quite differently to > bio > children in the family. In many cases though, at least some of the > children > were placed with other family members, grandfather, uncles, or older > brothers. > > Those were days when the men owned everything, even the children. When a > man died, the county required the children to be apprenticed out, or > indentured, so there would be some kind of assurance that the county would > not have to support the children. The children were considered to be > orphans, even though their mother was alive and willing and able to care > for > them. Most of the court minutes regarding such indentures list the > children > to be "orphans of ______". > > Betty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JOHN H CADDELL" <brendajohn@verizon.net> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE > > >> What does it mean to be indentured? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Betty" <bjrb@hotmail.com> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE >> >> >>>I am sending this along in case it will benefit some of you researching >>> >>> CATE. >>> >>> >>> >>> Daughter of James Roach & Ann (possibly Thompson) >>> >>> ELIZABETH ROACH >>> >>> born 15 February 1786 Orange County NC >>> >>> died before 1840 Orange County NC >>> >>> married Thomas Sykes Cate, Jr. 17 July 1804 Orange County NC >>> >>> born 1785 Orange County, NC >>> >>> son of The Reverend Thomas Cate & Sarah Estes >>> >>> >>> >>> Elizabeth was indentured by her mother at the age of 12 years. >>> >>> Indenture date 21 February 1798, Orange County NC. On the same day, >>> >>> the mother, Ann, indentured Elizabeth's siblings, James, Jr, Nancy >>> >>> and Drury. Prior to this date, Ann had twice indentured William, >>> >>> and also John Green. >>> >>> >>> >>> Son of John Roach & Unknown: >>> >>> William Roach >>> >>> born 1770 - 1775 Orange County, North Carolina >>> >>> died 1830-1840 Orange County, North Carolina >>> >>> >>> married Milly Cate 7 May 1796 Orange County NC >>> >>> Moses Cate, Bondsman >>> >>> >>> married 2) Jane Jenny Cate 9 July 1820 Orange County NC >>> >>> >>> >>> I have copies of all indentures. I also have a transcription >>> >>> of Thomas Cate's will of 1811. See the Orange County Will Book D, >>> >>> page 364. >>> >>> >>> >>> Betty >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:07 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>> >>> >>>> Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth >>>> great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my >>>> fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother >>>> was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person >>>> county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage >>>> of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history >>>> associating with the Cate family. Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> Betty wrote: >>>>> Christine, >>>>> >>>>> I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I >>>>> remember >>>>> off >>>>> the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. >>>>> Thomas >>>>> Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. >>>>> >>>>> Betty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> >>>>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> HI Ben, >>>>>> >>>>>> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also >>>>>> Orange >>>>>> county and my Allens are from Durham. >>>>>> >>>>>> Christine >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>>>>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >>>>>> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>>>>>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> Person County North Carolina >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. >>>>>>> SUSIE >>>>>>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. >>>>>>> MYRTLE >>>>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY >>>>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA >>>>>>> ALLEN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 11. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 12. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 13. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 14. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 15. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 16. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 17. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 18. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 19. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 20. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 21. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE >>>>>>> CHANDLER. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 22. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>>>>>> CLAYTON. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 23. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>>>>>> DICK CLAYTON. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 24. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY >>>>>>> CREED. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 25. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>>>>>> WHITFIELD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 26. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 27. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 28. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>>>>>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 29. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN >>>>>>> ALLEN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 31. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 32. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 33. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 34. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 35. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 36. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 37. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 38. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 39. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 40. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 41. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 42. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 43. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>>>>>> PAMPLIN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 44. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ALMA >>>>>>> BERRY,...................................................... >>>>>>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 45. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>>>>>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 46. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>>>>>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 47. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>>>>>> READE FOUSHEE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 48. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. >>>>>>> m. >>>>>>> HOWARD SHULL. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Blalock married into my Allen line from Durham, NC. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >>> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >>>> Person County North Carolina >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> >>>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >>>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> >>>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>>> >>>> 3. >>>> >>>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >>>> BLALOCK. >>>> >>>> 4. >>>> >>>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY >>>> BLALOCK. >>>> >>>> 5. >>>> >>>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>>> >>>> 6. >>>> >>>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 7. >>>> >>>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>>> >>>> 8. >>>> >>>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 9. >>>> >>>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>>> >>>> 10. >>>> >>>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>>> >>>> 11. >>>> >>>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>>> >>>> 12. >>>> >>>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>>> >>>> 13. >>>> >>>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>>> >>>> 14. >>>> >>>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>>> >>>> 15. >>>> >>>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>>> >>>> 16. >>>> >>>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 17. >>>> >>>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>>> >>>> 18. >>>> >>>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>>> >>>> 19. >>>> >>>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>>> >>>> 20. >>>> >>>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>>> >>>> 21. >>>> >>>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE >>>> CHANDLER. >>>> >>>> 22. >>>> >>>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>>> CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> 23. >>>> >>>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>>> DICK CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> 24. >>>> >>>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY >>>> CREED. >>>> >>>> 25. >>>> >>>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>>> WHITFIELD. >>>> >>>> 26. >>>> >>>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>>> >>>> 27. >>>> >>>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>>> >>>> 28. >>>> >>>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>>> >>>> 29. >>>> >>>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>>> >>>> 30. >>>> >>>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN >>>> ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 31. >>>> >>>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>>> >>>> 32. >>>> >>>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>>> >>>> 33. >>>> >>>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>>> >>>> 34. >>>> >>>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>>> >>>> 35. >>>> >>>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 36. >>>> >>>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>>> >>>> 37. >>>> >>>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>>> >>>> 38. >>>> >>>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>>> >>>> 39. >>>> >>>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>>> >>>> 40. >>>> >>>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>>> >>>> 41. >>>> >>>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>>> >>>> 42. >>>> >>>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>>> >>>> 43. >>>> >>>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>>> PAMPLIN. >>>> >>>> 44. >>>> >>>> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... >>>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 45. >>>> >>>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>>> >>>> 46. >>>> >>>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>>> >>>> 47. >>>> >>>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>>> READE FOUSHEE. >>>> >>>> 48. >>>> >>>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. >>>> HOWARD SHULL. >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom Garner - developer of the Grove. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Ben Henderson <benjib2@earthlink.net> > Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth > great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my > fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother > was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person > county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage > of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history > associating with the Cate family. Ben > > > Betty wrote: > > Christine, > > > > I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember off > > the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. Thomas > > Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "cristy" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins > > > > > > > >> HI Ben, > >> > >> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also Orange > >> county and my Allens are from Durham. > >> > >> Christine > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Ben Henderson" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM > >> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins > >> > >> > >> > >>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list > >>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or > >>> Person County North Carolina > >>> > >>> 1. > >>> > >>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE > >>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. > >>> > >>> 2. > >>> > >>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. > >>> > >>> 3. > >>> > >>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE > >>> BLALOCK. > >>> > >>> 4. > >>> > >>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY BLALOCK. > >>> > >>> 5. > >>> > >>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. > >>> > >>> 6. > >>> > >>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. > >>> > >>> 7. > >>> > >>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. > >>> > >>> 8. > >>> > >>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. > >>> > >>> 9. > >>> > >>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. > >>> > >>> 10. > >>> > >>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. > >>> > >>> 11. > >>> > >>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. > >>> > >>> 12. > >>> > >>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. > >>> > >>> 13. > >>> > >>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. > >>> > >>> 14. > >>> > >>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. > >>> > >>> 15. > >>> > >>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. > >>> > >>> 16. > >>> > >>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. > >>> > >>> 17. > >>> > >>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. > >>> > >>> 18. > >>> > >>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. > >>> > >>> 19. > >>> > >>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. > >>> > >>> 20. > >>> > >>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. > >>> > >>> 21. > >>> > >>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE CHANDLER. > >>> > >>> 22. > >>> > >>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE > >>> CLAYTON. > >>> > >>> 23. > >>> > >>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN > >>> DICK CLAYTON. > >>> > >>> 24. > >>> > >>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY CREED. > >>> > >>> 25. > >>> > >>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY > >>> WHITFIELD. > >>> > >>> 26. > >>> > >>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. > >>> > >>> 27. > >>> > >>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. > >>> > >>> 28. > >>> > >>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY > >>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. > >>> > >>> 29. > >>> > >>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. > >>> > >>> 30. > >>> > >>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN ALLEN. > >>> > >>> 31. > >>> > >>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. > >>> > >>> 32. > >>> > >>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. > >>> > >>> 33. > >>> > >>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. > >>> > >>> 34. > >>> > >>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. > >>> > >>> 35. > >>> > >>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. > >>> > >>> 36. > >>> > >>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. > >>> > >>> 37. > >>> > >>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. > >>> > >>> 38. > >>> > >>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. > >>> > >>> 39. > >>> > >>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. > >>> > >>> 40. > >>> > >>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. > >>> > >>> 41. > >>> > >>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. > >>> > >>> 42. > >>> > >>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. > >>> > >>> 43. > >>> > >>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE > >>> PAMPLIN. > >>> > >>> 44. > >>> > >>> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... > >>> m. NICK ALLEN. > >>> > >>> 45. > >>> > >>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. > >>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. > >>> > >>> 46. > >>> > >>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. > >>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. > >>> > >>> 47. > >>> > >>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. > >>> READE FOUSHEE. > >>> > >>> 48. > >>> > >>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. > >>> HOWARD SHULL. > >>> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Betty's description of "orphaned" children; however, another term frequently used was for children to be "bound out". Below is an example, which I posted several years ago to NC USGenWeb archives, and you'll see the child was only 6 years old: =================== Transcribed by Francie Lane flane@otn.net from LDS film #0019707 Rockingham Co., NC Deed Book F, page 158 This Indenture made this 10th day of August in the year of our Lord 1799 between ELIZABETH BUNCH of the County of Henry and State of Virginia of the one part, and PETER HUNTER of Rockingham, State of North Carolina of the other part - Witnesseth that the said Elizabeth Bunch doe bind & by these presents have bounded WILEY BUNCH, a child of the said Elizabeth Bunch unto the said Peter Hunter to serve him the said Peter Hunter his heirs or assigns to the age of 21 years, and the said Peter Hunter covenant grant to & with the said Elizabeth Bunch and her assigns that the said Peter Hunter will find & provide for the said child during his said servitude sufficient drink, washing, clothing & lodging, teach or cause him to be taught to read and to instruct him in the Christian religion and to learn the said Wylie Bunch plantation business. The said Wylie Bunch was born December the 24th 1792, as witness my hand the day & year first above written. Elizabeth (her X mark) BUNCH Sealed & Delivered in the presence of: Zachariah KING John (his X mark) HUNTER

Indenture means that the mother entered into a contract for couples to take the children and raise them to a specified age, usually age 18. You might hear it also referred to as "apprenticed out." The children usually had to perform some type of work as a part of the contract. Often, it didn't work out very well, and the children were often treated quite differently to bio children in the family. In many cases though, at least some of the children were placed with other family members, grandfather, uncles, or older brothers. Those were days when the men owned everything, even the children. When a man died, the county required the children to be apprenticed out, or indentured, so there would be some kind of assurance that the county would not have to support the children. The children were considered to be orphans, even though their mother was alive and willing and able to care for them. Most of the court minutes regarding such indentures list the children to be "orphans of ______". Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN H CADDELL" <brendajohn@verizon.net> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE > What does it mean to be indentured? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty" <bjrb@hotmail.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE > > >>I am sending this along in case it will benefit some of you researching >> >> CATE. >> >> >> >> Daughter of James Roach & Ann (possibly Thompson) >> >> ELIZABETH ROACH >> >> born 15 February 1786 Orange County NC >> >> died before 1840 Orange County NC >> >> married Thomas Sykes Cate, Jr. 17 July 1804 Orange County NC >> >> born 1785 Orange County, NC >> >> son of The Reverend Thomas Cate & Sarah Estes >> >> >> >> Elizabeth was indentured by her mother at the age of 12 years. >> >> Indenture date 21 February 1798, Orange County NC. On the same day, >> >> the mother, Ann, indentured Elizabeth's siblings, James, Jr, Nancy >> >> and Drury. Prior to this date, Ann had twice indentured William, >> >> and also John Green. >> >> >> >> Son of John Roach & Unknown: >> >> William Roach >> >> born 1770 - 1775 Orange County, North Carolina >> >> died 1830-1840 Orange County, North Carolina >> >> >> married Milly Cate 7 May 1796 Orange County NC >> >> Moses Cate, Bondsman >> >> >> married 2) Jane Jenny Cate 9 July 1820 Orange County NC >> >> >> >> I have copies of all indentures. I also have a transcription >> >> of Thomas Cate's will of 1811. See the Orange County Will Book D, >> >> page 364. >> >> >> >> Betty >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >> >> >>> Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth >>> great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my >>> fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother >>> was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person >>> county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage >>> of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history >>> associating with the Cate family. Ben >>> >>> >>> Betty wrote: >>>> Christine, >>>> >>>> I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember >>>> off >>>> the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. >>>> Thomas >>>> Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. >>>> >>>> Betty >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> >>>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> HI Ben, >>>>> >>>>> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also >>>>> Orange >>>>> county and my Allens are from Durham. >>>>> >>>>> Christine >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>>>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >>>>> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>>>>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >>>>>> Person County North Carolina >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> >>>>>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >>>>>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. >>>>>> >>>>>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. >>>>>> >>>>>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >>>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. >>>>>> >>>>>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY >>>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. >>>>>> >>>>>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7. >>>>>> >>>>>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>>>>> >>>>>> 8. >>>>>> >>>>>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>>>>> >>>>>> 9. >>>>>> >>>>>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>>>>> >>>>>> 10. >>>>>> >>>>>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>>>>> >>>>>> 11. >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>>>>> >>>>>> 12. >>>>>> >>>>>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>>>>> >>>>>> 13. >>>>>> >>>>>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>>>>> >>>>>> 14. >>>>>> >>>>>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>>>>> >>>>>> 15. >>>>>> >>>>>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>>>>> >>>>>> 16. >>>>>> >>>>>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>>>>> >>>>>> 17. >>>>>> >>>>>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>>>>> >>>>>> 18. >>>>>> >>>>>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>>>>> >>>>>> 19. >>>>>> >>>>>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>>>>> >>>>>> 20. >>>>>> >>>>>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>>>>> >>>>>> 21. >>>>>> >>>>>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE >>>>>> CHANDLER. >>>>>> >>>>>> 22. >>>>>> >>>>>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>>>>> CLAYTON. >>>>>> >>>>>> 23. >>>>>> >>>>>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>>>>> DICK CLAYTON. >>>>>> >>>>>> 24. >>>>>> >>>>>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY >>>>>> CREED. >>>>>> >>>>>> 25. >>>>>> >>>>>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>>>>> WHITFIELD. >>>>>> >>>>>> 26. >>>>>> >>>>>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>>>>> >>>>>> 27. >>>>>> >>>>>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>>>>> >>>>>> 28. >>>>>> >>>>>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>>>>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>>>>> >>>>>> 29. >>>>>> >>>>>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>>>>> >>>>>> 30. >>>>>> >>>>>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN >>>>>> ALLEN. >>>>>> >>>>>> 31. >>>>>> >>>>>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>>>>> >>>>>> 32. >>>>>> >>>>>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>>>>> >>>>>> 33. >>>>>> >>>>>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>>>>> >>>>>> 34. >>>>>> >>>>>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>>>>> >>>>>> 35. >>>>>> >>>>>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>>>>> >>>>>> 36. >>>>>> >>>>>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>>>>> >>>>>> 37. >>>>>> >>>>>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>>>>> >>>>>> 38. >>>>>> >>>>>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>>>>> >>>>>> 39. >>>>>> >>>>>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>>>>> >>>>>> 40. >>>>>> >>>>>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>>>>> >>>>>> 41. >>>>>> >>>>>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>>>>> >>>>>> 42. >>>>>> >>>>>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>>>>> >>>>>> 43. >>>>>> >>>>>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>>>>> PAMPLIN. >>>>>> >>>>>> 44. >>>>>> >>>>>> ALMA >>>>>> BERRY,...................................................... >>>>>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>>>>> >>>>>> 45. >>>>>> >>>>>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>>>>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>>>>> >>>>>> 46. >>>>>> >>>>>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>>>>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>>>>> >>>>>> 47. >>>>>> >>>>>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>>>>> READE FOUSHEE. >>>>>> >>>>>> 48. >>>>>> >>>>>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. >>>>>> m. >>>>>> HOWARD SHULL. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Betty, I have the names "Sykes" and "Estes" involved in my line of Cates also. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bjrb@hotmail.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE >I am sending this along in case it will benefit some of you researching > > CATE. > > > > Daughter of James Roach & Ann (possibly Thompson) > > ELIZABETH ROACH > > born 15 February 1786 Orange County NC > > died before 1840 Orange County NC > > married Thomas Sykes Cate, Jr. 17 July 1804 Orange County NC > > born 1785 Orange County, NC > > son of The Reverend Thomas Cate & Sarah Estes > > > > Elizabeth was indentured by her mother at the age of 12 years. > > Indenture date 21 February 1798, Orange County NC. On the same day, > > the mother, Ann, indentured Elizabeth's siblings, James, Jr, Nancy > > and Drury. Prior to this date, Ann had twice indentured William, > > and also John Green. > > > > Son of John Roach & Unknown: > > William Roach > > born 1770 - 1775 Orange County, North Carolina > > died 1830-1840 Orange County, North Carolina > > > married Milly Cate 7 May 1796 Orange County NC > > Moses Cate, Bondsman > > > married 2) Jane Jenny Cate 9 July 1820 Orange County NC > > > > I have copies of all indentures. I also have a transcription > > of Thomas Cate's will of 1811. See the Orange County Will Book D, > > page 364. > > > > Betty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins > > >> Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth >> great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my >> fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother >> was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person >> county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage >> of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history >> associating with the Cate family. Ben >> >> >> Betty wrote: >>> Christine, >>> >>> I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember >>> off >>> the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. >>> Thomas >>> Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. >>> >>> Betty >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>> >>> >>> >>>> HI Ben, >>>> >>>> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also >>>> Orange >>>> county and my Allens are from Durham. >>>> >>>> Christine >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >>>> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>>>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >>>>> Person County North Carolina >>>>> >>>>> 1. >>>>> >>>>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >>>>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>>>> >>>>> 2. >>>>> >>>>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>>>> >>>>> 3. >>>>> >>>>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>> >>>>> 4. >>>>> >>>>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY >>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>> >>>>> 5. >>>>> >>>>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>>>> >>>>> 6. >>>>> >>>>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >>>>> >>>>> 7. >>>>> >>>>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>>>> >>>>> 8. >>>>> >>>>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>>>> >>>>> 9. >>>>> >>>>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>>>> >>>>> 10. >>>>> >>>>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>>>> >>>>> 11. >>>>> >>>>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>>>> >>>>> 12. >>>>> >>>>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>>>> >>>>> 13. >>>>> >>>>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>>>> >>>>> 14. >>>>> >>>>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>>>> >>>>> 15. >>>>> >>>>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>>>> >>>>> 16. >>>>> >>>>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>>>> >>>>> 17. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>>>> >>>>> 18. >>>>> >>>>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>>>> >>>>> 19. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>>>> >>>>> 20. >>>>> >>>>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>>>> >>>>> 21. >>>>> >>>>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE >>>>> CHANDLER. >>>>> >>>>> 22. >>>>> >>>>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>>>> CLAYTON. >>>>> >>>>> 23. >>>>> >>>>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>>>> DICK CLAYTON. >>>>> >>>>> 24. >>>>> >>>>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY >>>>> CREED. >>>>> >>>>> 25. >>>>> >>>>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>>>> WHITFIELD. >>>>> >>>>> 26. >>>>> >>>>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>>>> >>>>> 27. >>>>> >>>>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>>>> >>>>> 28. >>>>> >>>>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>>>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>>>> >>>>> 29. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>>>> >>>>> 30. >>>>> >>>>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN >>>>> ALLEN. >>>>> >>>>> 31. >>>>> >>>>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>>>> >>>>> 32. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>>>> >>>>> 33. >>>>> >>>>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>>>> >>>>> 34. >>>>> >>>>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>>>> >>>>> 35. >>>>> >>>>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>>>> >>>>> 36. >>>>> >>>>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>>>> >>>>> 37. >>>>> >>>>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>>>> >>>>> 38. >>>>> >>>>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>>>> >>>>> 39. >>>>> >>>>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>>>> >>>>> 40. >>>>> >>>>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>>>> >>>>> 41. >>>>> >>>>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>>>> >>>>> 42. >>>>> >>>>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>>>> >>>>> 43. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>>>> PAMPLIN. >>>>> >>>>> 44. >>>>> >>>>> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... >>>>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>>>> >>>>> 45. >>>>> >>>>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>>>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>>>> >>>>> 46. >>>>> >>>>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>>>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>>>> >>>>> 47. >>>>> >>>>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>>>> READE FOUSHEE. >>>>> >>>>> 48. >>>>> >>>>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. >>>>> HOWARD SHULL. >>>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is my Cates line. Descendants of David Cates Generation No. 1 1. DAVID1 CATES He married MARY WORKMAN. Child of DAVID CATES and MARY WORKMAN is: 2. i. WILLIAM SAUNDERS2 CATES, b. 1815, Orange County, North Carolina; d. 1891, Orange County, North Carolina. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM SAUNDERS2 CATES (DAVID1) was born 1815 in Orange County, North Carolina, and died 1891 in Orange County, North Carolina. He married SUSANNAH CHEEK 19 May 1838 in Orange, North Carolina, daughter of JOHN CHEEK and SUSANNAH (ESTES). She was born 1822 in Orange County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1900 in Durham County, North Carolina. Notes for WILLIAM SAUNDERS CATES: Also see as "Sanders" Cates. Also I find born abt. 1815 and died abt. 1880-1900. Notes for SUSANNAH CHEEK: According to researcher L. W. Cates the Death date is sometime between 1900 - 1910. Children of WILLIAM CATES and SUSANNAH CHEEK are: i. MARY JANE3 CATES, b. 26 Mar 1839, Orange County, North Carolina; d. 11 Dec 1916, Cross Roads Baptist Church, Orange, North Carolina; m. WASHINGTON PLEASANT ROBERTS, 20 Dec 1860; b. 15 Dec 1838; d. 28 Feb 1906, Cross Roads Baptist Church, Orange, North Carolina. 3. ii. JOHN E. CATES, b. 22 Oct 1840, Orange County, North Carolina; d. 18 Jun 1915, Orange County, North Carolina. iii. MARTHA E. CATES, b. 28 Feb 1844, Orange County, North Carolina; d. 30 Nov 1921, Orange County, North Carolina; m. ALFRED CARR, 07 Oct 1866, Orange, North Carolina; b. 24 May 1839, North Carolina; d. 06 Feb 1931. iv. SUSAN ELLEN CATES, b. 04 Jul 1846, Orange County, North Carolina; d. 14 Jun 1900, Chesnutt Ridge Methodist Church in Orange Co., North CarolinaNorth Carolina; m. JOHN WILLIAM SYKES, 11 Oct 1866, North Carolina; b. Oct 1844, North Carolina; d. 02 Dec 1918, North Carolina. v. EMMA CAROLINE CATES, b. 1850, Orange County, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1892; m. WILLIAM HENRY CATES, 05 Jun 1870; b. Apr 1850. Notes for EMMA CAROLINE CATES: Per researcher L. W. Cates, death date is between 1892-1899. 4. vi. TULAH HOMER CATES, b. 12 Apr 1854, Orange County, North Carolina; d. 23 Mar 1913, Maplewood Cemetery, Durham, North Carolina. 5. vii. MARGARET LITHIA CATES, b. 1858, Orange County, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1881. Generation No. 3 3. JOHN E.3 CATES (WILLIAM SAUNDERS2, DAVID1) was born 22 Oct 1840 in Orange County, North Carolina, and died 18 Jun 1915 in Orange County, North Carolina. He married ELIZA JENNET REEVES 29 Jan 1861 in Durham, North Carolina, daughter of FREDERICK REEVES and NANCY SMITH. She was born 23 Mar 1846 in Orange County, North Carolina, and died 03 Apr 1923 in Durham, North Carolina. Child of JOHN CATES and ELIZA REEVES is: i. LILLIE4 CATES, m. UNKNOWN GRESHAM. 4. TULAH HOMER3 CATES (WILLIAM SAUNDERS2, DAVID1) was born 12 Apr 1854 in Orange County, North Carolina, and died 23 Mar 1913 in Maplewood Cemetery, Durham, North Carolina. She married JAMES ALPHONSO ALLEN 15 Feb 1874 in Bingham, Orange, North Carolina. He was born 06 Sep 1852 in North Carolina, and died 31 Dec 1918 in Maplewood Cemetery, Durham, North Carolina. More About TULAH HOMER CATES: Burial: Maplewood Cemetery, Durham, North Carolina 5. MARGARET LITHIA3 CATES (WILLIAM SAUNDERS2, DAVID1) was born 1858 in Orange County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1881. She married FREDERICK SAMPSON REEVES 20 Sep 1878 in Orange, North Carolina, son of JOHN REEVES and MINERVA WILLIAMS. He was born 15 Jun 1853, and died 26 Dec 1911 in Crossroads Baptist Church, Orange, North Carolina. Notes for MARGARET LITHIA CATES: Per Researcher, L.W. Cates, Margaret died sometime between 1881-1886. Child of MARGARET CATES and FREDERICK REEVES is: i. EFFIE L.4 REEVES, b. Jul 1879.

What does it mean to be indentured? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bjrb@hotmail.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] CATE >I am sending this along in case it will benefit some of you researching > > CATE. > > > > Daughter of James Roach & Ann (possibly Thompson) > > ELIZABETH ROACH > > born 15 February 1786 Orange County NC > > died before 1840 Orange County NC > > married Thomas Sykes Cate, Jr. 17 July 1804 Orange County NC > > born 1785 Orange County, NC > > son of The Reverend Thomas Cate & Sarah Estes > > > > Elizabeth was indentured by her mother at the age of 12 years. > > Indenture date 21 February 1798, Orange County NC. On the same day, > > the mother, Ann, indentured Elizabeth's siblings, James, Jr, Nancy > > and Drury. Prior to this date, Ann had twice indentured William, > > and also John Green. > > > > Son of John Roach & Unknown: > > William Roach > > born 1770 - 1775 Orange County, North Carolina > > died 1830-1840 Orange County, North Carolina > > > married Milly Cate 7 May 1796 Orange County NC > > Moses Cate, Bondsman > > > married 2) Jane Jenny Cate 9 July 1820 Orange County NC > > > > I have copies of all indentures. I also have a transcription > > of Thomas Cate's will of 1811. See the Orange County Will Book D, > > page 364. > > > > Betty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins > > >> Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth >> great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my >> fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother >> was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person >> county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage >> of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history >> associating with the Cate family. Ben >> >> >> Betty wrote: >>> Christine, >>> >>> I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember >>> off >>> the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. >>> Thomas >>> Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. >>> >>> Betty >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>> >>> >>> >>>> HI Ben, >>>> >>>> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also >>>> Orange >>>> county and my Allens are from Durham. >>>> >>>> Christine >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >>>> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>>>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >>>>> Person County North Carolina >>>>> >>>>> 1. >>>>> >>>>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >>>>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>>>> >>>>> 2. >>>>> >>>>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>>>> >>>>> 3. >>>>> >>>>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>> >>>>> 4. >>>>> >>>>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY >>>>> BLALOCK. >>>>> >>>>> 5. >>>>> >>>>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>>>> >>>>> 6. >>>>> >>>>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >>>>> >>>>> 7. >>>>> >>>>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>>>> >>>>> 8. >>>>> >>>>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>>>> >>>>> 9. >>>>> >>>>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>>>> >>>>> 10. >>>>> >>>>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>>>> >>>>> 11. >>>>> >>>>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>>>> >>>>> 12. >>>>> >>>>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>>>> >>>>> 13. >>>>> >>>>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>>>> >>>>> 14. >>>>> >>>>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>>>> >>>>> 15. >>>>> >>>>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>>>> >>>>> 16. >>>>> >>>>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>>>> >>>>> 17. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>>>> >>>>> 18. >>>>> >>>>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>>>> >>>>> 19. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>>>> >>>>> 20. >>>>> >>>>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>>>> >>>>> 21. >>>>> >>>>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE >>>>> CHANDLER. >>>>> >>>>> 22. >>>>> >>>>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>>>> CLAYTON. >>>>> >>>>> 23. >>>>> >>>>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>>>> DICK CLAYTON. >>>>> >>>>> 24. >>>>> >>>>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY >>>>> CREED. >>>>> >>>>> 25. >>>>> >>>>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>>>> WHITFIELD. >>>>> >>>>> 26. >>>>> >>>>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>>>> >>>>> 27. >>>>> >>>>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>>>> >>>>> 28. >>>>> >>>>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>>>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>>>> >>>>> 29. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>>>> >>>>> 30. >>>>> >>>>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN >>>>> ALLEN. >>>>> >>>>> 31. >>>>> >>>>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>>>> >>>>> 32. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>>>> >>>>> 33. >>>>> >>>>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>>>> >>>>> 34. >>>>> >>>>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>>>> >>>>> 35. >>>>> >>>>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>>>> >>>>> 36. >>>>> >>>>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>>>> >>>>> 37. >>>>> >>>>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>>>> >>>>> 38. >>>>> >>>>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>>>> >>>>> 39. >>>>> >>>>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>>>> >>>>> 40. >>>>> >>>>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>>>> >>>>> 41. >>>>> >>>>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>>>> >>>>> 42. >>>>> >>>>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>>>> >>>>> 43. >>>>> >>>>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>>>> PAMPLIN. >>>>> >>>>> 44. >>>>> >>>>> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... >>>>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>>>> >>>>> 45. >>>>> >>>>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>>>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>>>> >>>>> 46. >>>>> >>>>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>>>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>>>> >>>>> 47. >>>>> >>>>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>>>> READE FOUSHEE. >>>>> >>>>> 48. >>>>> >>>>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. >>>>> HOWARD SHULL. >>>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

there is a gentleman, (cant recall if I met him on this list) that is researching Cates who has done extensive research on his Cates line from the same area I believe that we are researching. Most of my information on them comes from him. I will dig out all my notes later this week and list some Cates I have info on. And if you would like will connect you with the researcher. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins > Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth > great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my > fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother > was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person > county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage > of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history > associating with the Cate family. Ben > > > Betty wrote: >> Christine, >> >> I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember >> off >> the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. Thomas >> Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. >> >> Betty >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >> >> >> >>> HI Ben, >>> >>> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also >>> Orange >>> county and my Allens are from Durham. >>> >>> Christine >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >>> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >>>> Person County North Carolina >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> >>>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >>>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> >>>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>>> >>>> 3. >>>> >>>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >>>> BLALOCK. >>>> >>>> 4. >>>> >>>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY >>>> BLALOCK. >>>> >>>> 5. >>>> >>>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>>> >>>> 6. >>>> >>>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 7. >>>> >>>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>>> >>>> 8. >>>> >>>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 9. >>>> >>>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>>> >>>> 10. >>>> >>>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>>> >>>> 11. >>>> >>>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>>> >>>> 12. >>>> >>>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>>> >>>> 13. >>>> >>>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>>> >>>> 14. >>>> >>>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>>> >>>> 15. >>>> >>>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>>> >>>> 16. >>>> >>>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 17. >>>> >>>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>>> >>>> 18. >>>> >>>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>>> >>>> 19. >>>> >>>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>>> >>>> 20. >>>> >>>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>>> >>>> 21. >>>> >>>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE >>>> CHANDLER. >>>> >>>> 22. >>>> >>>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>>> CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> 23. >>>> >>>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>>> DICK CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> 24. >>>> >>>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY >>>> CREED. >>>> >>>> 25. >>>> >>>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>>> WHITFIELD. >>>> >>>> 26. >>>> >>>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>>> >>>> 27. >>>> >>>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>>> >>>> 28. >>>> >>>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>>> >>>> 29. >>>> >>>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>>> >>>> 30. >>>> >>>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN >>>> ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 31. >>>> >>>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>>> >>>> 32. >>>> >>>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>>> >>>> 33. >>>> >>>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>>> >>>> 34. >>>> >>>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>>> >>>> 35. >>>> >>>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 36. >>>> >>>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>>> >>>> 37. >>>> >>>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>>> >>>> 38. >>>> >>>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>>> >>>> 39. >>>> >>>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>>> >>>> 40. >>>> >>>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>>> >>>> 41. >>>> >>>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>>> >>>> 42. >>>> >>>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>>> >>>> 43. >>>> >>>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>>> PAMPLIN. >>>> >>>> 44. >>>> >>>> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... >>>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 45. >>>> >>>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>>> >>>> 46. >>>> >>>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>>> >>>> 47. >>>> >>>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>>> READE FOUSHEE. >>>> >>>> 48. >>>> >>>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. >>>> HOWARD SHULL. >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am sending this along in case it will benefit some of you researching CATE. Daughter of James Roach & Ann (possibly Thompson) ELIZABETH ROACH born 15 February 1786 Orange County NC died before 1840 Orange County NC married Thomas Sykes Cate, Jr. 17 July 1804 Orange County NC born 1785 Orange County, NC son of The Reverend Thomas Cate & Sarah Estes Elizabeth was indentured by her mother at the age of 12 years. Indenture date 21 February 1798, Orange County NC. On the same day, the mother, Ann, indentured Elizabeth's siblings, James, Jr, Nancy and Drury. Prior to this date, Ann had twice indentured William, and also John Green. Son of John Roach & Unknown: William Roach born 1770 - 1775 Orange County, North Carolina died 1830-1840 Orange County, North Carolina married Milly Cate 7 May 1796 Orange County NC Moses Cate, Bondsman married 2) Jane Jenny Cate 9 July 1820 Orange County NC I have copies of all indentures. I also have a transcription of Thomas Cate's will of 1811. See the Orange County Will Book D, page 364. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins > Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth > great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my > fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother > was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person > county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage > of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history > associating with the Cate family. Ben > > > Betty wrote: >> Christine, >> >> I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember >> off >> the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. Thomas >> Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. >> >> Betty >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins >> >> >> >>> HI Ben, >>> >>> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also >>> Orange >>> county and my Allens are from Durham. >>> >>> Christine >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >>> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >>>> Person County North Carolina >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> >>>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >>>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> >>>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>>> >>>> 3. >>>> >>>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >>>> BLALOCK. >>>> >>>> 4. >>>> >>>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY >>>> BLALOCK. >>>> >>>> 5. >>>> >>>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>>> >>>> 6. >>>> >>>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 7. >>>> >>>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>>> >>>> 8. >>>> >>>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 9. >>>> >>>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>>> >>>> 10. >>>> >>>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>>> >>>> 11. >>>> >>>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>>> >>>> 12. >>>> >>>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>>> >>>> 13. >>>> >>>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>>> >>>> 14. >>>> >>>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>>> >>>> 15. >>>> >>>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>>> >>>> 16. >>>> >>>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 17. >>>> >>>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>>> >>>> 18. >>>> >>>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>>> >>>> 19. >>>> >>>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>>> >>>> 20. >>>> >>>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>>> >>>> 21. >>>> >>>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE >>>> CHANDLER. >>>> >>>> 22. >>>> >>>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>>> CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> 23. >>>> >>>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>>> DICK CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> 24. >>>> >>>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY >>>> CREED. >>>> >>>> 25. >>>> >>>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>>> WHITFIELD. >>>> >>>> 26. >>>> >>>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>>> >>>> 27. >>>> >>>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>>> >>>> 28. >>>> >>>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>>> >>>> 29. >>>> >>>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>>> >>>> 30. >>>> >>>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN >>>> ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 31. >>>> >>>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>>> >>>> 32. >>>> >>>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>>> >>>> 33. >>>> >>>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>>> >>>> 34. >>>> >>>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>>> >>>> 35. >>>> >>>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>>> >>>> 36. >>>> >>>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>>> >>>> 37. >>>> >>>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>>> >>>> 38. >>>> >>>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>>> >>>> 39. >>>> >>>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>>> >>>> 40. >>>> >>>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>>> >>>> 41. >>>> >>>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>>> >>>> 42. >>>> >>>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>>> >>>> 43. >>>> >>>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>>> PAMPLIN. >>>> >>>> 44. >>>> >>>> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... >>>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>>> >>>> 45. >>>> >>>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>>> >>>> 46. >>>> >>>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>>> >>>> 47. >>>> >>>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>>> READE FOUSHEE. >>>> >>>> 48. >>>> >>>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. >>>> HOWARD SHULL. >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Betty these cates are in my family in the late 1800's but my fourth great grand mother Elizabeth Cate was born around 1735. Her Father my fifth great grandfather was John Cate. Also my third great grandmother was Hannah Cate and was born in 1770. All are from Orange or Person county North Carolina. The 48 first cousins are from a second marriage of my great great grandfather. My Berry family has had a long history associating with the Cate family. Ben Betty wrote: > Christine, > > I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember off > the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. Thomas > Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. > > Betty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins > > > >> HI Ben, >> >> I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also Orange >> county and my Allens are from Durham. >> >> Christine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM >> Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins >> >> >> >>> I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >>> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >>> Person County North Carolina >>> >>> 1. >>> >>> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >>> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >>> >>> 2. >>> >>> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >>> >>> 3. >>> >>> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >>> BLALOCK. >>> >>> 4. >>> >>> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY BLALOCK. >>> >>> 5. >>> >>> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >>> >>> 6. >>> >>> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >>> >>> 7. >>> >>> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >>> >>> 8. >>> >>> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >>> >>> 9. >>> >>> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >>> >>> 10. >>> >>> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >>> >>> 11. >>> >>> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >>> >>> 12. >>> >>> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >>> >>> 13. >>> >>> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >>> >>> 14. >>> >>> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >>> >>> 15. >>> >>> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >>> >>> 16. >>> >>> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >>> >>> 17. >>> >>> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >>> >>> 18. >>> >>> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >>> >>> 19. >>> >>> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >>> >>> 20. >>> >>> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >>> >>> 21. >>> >>> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE CHANDLER. >>> >>> 22. >>> >>> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >>> CLAYTON. >>> >>> 23. >>> >>> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >>> DICK CLAYTON. >>> >>> 24. >>> >>> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY CREED. >>> >>> 25. >>> >>> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >>> WHITFIELD. >>> >>> 26. >>> >>> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >>> >>> 27. >>> >>> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >>> >>> 28. >>> >>> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >>> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >>> >>> 29. >>> >>> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >>> >>> 30. >>> >>> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN ALLEN. >>> >>> 31. >>> >>> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >>> >>> 32. >>> >>> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >>> >>> 33. >>> >>> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >>> >>> 34. >>> >>> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >>> >>> 35. >>> >>> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >>> >>> 36. >>> >>> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >>> >>> 37. >>> >>> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >>> >>> 38. >>> >>> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >>> >>> 39. >>> >>> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >>> >>> 40. >>> >>> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >>> >>> 41. >>> >>> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >>> >>> 42. >>> >>> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >>> >>> 43. >>> >>> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >>> PAMPLIN. >>> >>> 44. >>> >>> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... >>> m. NICK ALLEN. >>> >>> 45. >>> >>> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >>> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >>> >>> 46. >>> >>> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >>> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >>> >>> 47. >>> >>> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >>> READE FOUSHEE. >>> >>> 48. >>> >>> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. >>> HOWARD SHULL. >>> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Bebe, Yes, I have checked everywhere I can think of. I have a wide circle of researchers and we are all in the same boat. I am hoping that someone on this list has a connection and/or information that I have not been able to find. Likewise, perhaps I can help someone else. Thank you, Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > Betty, I don't see these specific names in the index but this book just > hits the high spots regarding surnames. There aren't any genealogical > references at all. I think the books which index the actions of the people > in particular will be your best bet...wills, estate > settlements/inventories/land transactions, etc. but sounds like you have > already checked them out. I guess you've checked Rootsweb to see if > someone has the same descent as yours, not they are necessarily correct, > but could contain clues. > > Bebe > > -----Original Message----- > From: bjrb@hotmail.com > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > Thank you. I'll see if the Texas State Library has the book. If there > are > other books you can recommend, I'd appreciate your advice. > > My ancestors left Orange County sometime after 1800 and before they > appeared > on a tax list in Grainger County TN in 1807. My 5th g-grandfather, James > ROACH died in Orange County NC Feb-May 1792, and his widow married a John > READING or REDDING in 1797 or 1798. I have found no trace of either of > them since they sold her dower. The widow, Ann, may have been the > daughter > of Samuel THOMPSON. I cannot find his will, and perhaps there wasn't a > legitimate one. After Henry O'DANIEL demanded that the will be produced > in > court, no further mention has been found. Before Ann married John > Reading/Redding, she indentured all of her children except the two oldest > in > Orange and Person Counties. I have those documents. > > James owned 182 acres of land at the headwaters of the Haw River. His > mother was alive and living with him when he died, but he does not mention > her by name. She may have been an ASHCRAFT. > > I've just about run out my string in Orange County, so if anyone has any > information that might help me, I'd be most grateful. > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and > Wagner > bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. > > >> Betty, >> >> The book is about Orange Co., not genealogy per se...the origin of the >> county, all the churches, when founded and by whom, etc. The author, >> Lefler, taught history at UNC, and also wrote a bk. called North >> Carolina. >> There are names and photos in both but just the movers and shakers. >> >> Pg. 15, the abstract I sent, is all that there is about German settlers >> in >> Orange Co. >> >> Bebe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bjrb@hotmail.com >> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 8:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> Thank you, Bebe. If this book is about Germans it won't help further my >> families histories, but I am also interested in history in general. >> >> Betty >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> >> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >> Wagner >> bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >> >> >>> Orange County 1752-1952 by Lefler and Wagner. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bebe >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bjrb@hotmail.com >>> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 5:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >>> Wagner bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >>> >>> Bebe, >>> >>> What book are you are referencing? I am interested in Orange County >>> pre-1800. My primary surnames are ROACH, THOMPSON & MIDDLETON. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Betty >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> >>> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:56 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance/P. 15 Lefler and >>> Wagner >>> bk. re German settlers in Orange Co. >>> >>> >>>> Germans held land west of the Haw River...were Lutheran...came down >>>> the >>>> Great Wagon Rd. from PA as land was getting too exp. there...some >>>> surnames >>>> were Clapp on the Alamance in 1752. Michael Holt on the Great AND >>>> Little >>>> Alamance. Faust had land on Cain Crk.. Trolinger on w. bank of the Haw >>>> River. Also mentioned wsere Albright, Sharp, Snotherly, and >>>> Ephland/Efland. >>>> >>>> Ruth Blackwellder wrote this section. The bk. was written, then >>>> published >>>> in 1952 to commemorated the erection of Orange thus named...Orange >>>> County >>>> 1752-1952. The Chatham history followed suit and did their book Chatham >>>> County 1771-1971. My step grandmother, Nell Craig Strowd was a >>>> co-author. >>>> >>>> Bebe >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: RLMLFM@aol.com >>>> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 2:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance >>>> >>>> Carl, >>>> >>>> No, I don't believe this Mary Adams who married Henry Simpson 7 Oct >>>> 1837 >>>> in >>>> Orange County, NC is a part of my line. Oddly enough though, my >>>> William >>>> ADAMS married Eleanor SIMPSON 18 March 1795 in Rowan County, NC. >>>> >>>> You never know, they still could somehow be related through one of >>>> these >>>> families. There is about 42 years between the two marriage dates, a >>>> lot >>>> can >>>> happen in that amount of time. >>>> >>>> Linda Monticelli >

Christine, I have some "Cate" folks in my Roach records. The only names I remember off the top of my head are Thomas Sykes Cate, Milly Cate, and the Rev. Thomas Cate. They connect way further back than Ben's Cates. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Cousins > HI Ben, > > I will check my notes in a few days. I am researching "Cates" also Orange > county and my Allens are from Durham. > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Henderson" <benjib2@earthlink.net> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:49 AM > Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins > > >>I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list >> below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or >> Person County North Carolina >> >> 1. >> >> HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE >> ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. >> >> 2. >> >> DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. >> >> 3. >> >> CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE >> BLALOCK. >> >> 4. >> >> LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY BLALOCK. >> >> 5. >> >> WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. >> >> 6. >> >> .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. >> >> 7. >> >> BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. >> >> 8. >> >> DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. >> >> 9. >> >> WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. >> >> 10. >> >> IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. >> >> 11. >> >> AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. >> >> 12. >> >> RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. >> >> 13. >> >> VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. >> >> 14. >> >> CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. >> >> 15. >> >> TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. >> >> 16. >> >> RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. >> >> 17. >> >> JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. >> >> 18. >> >> SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. >> >> 19. >> >> JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. >> >> 20. >> >> SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. >> >> 21. >> >> HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE CHANDLER. >> >> 22. >> >> ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE >> CLAYTON. >> >> 23. >> >> RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN >> DICK CLAYTON. >> >> 24. >> >> NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY CREED. >> >> 25. >> >> NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY >> WHITFIELD. >> >> 26. >> >> ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. >> >> 27. >> >> SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. >> >> 28. >> >> SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY >> ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. >> >> 29. >> >> JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. >> >> 30. >> >> ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN ALLEN. >> >> 31. >> >> WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. >> >> 32. >> >> JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. >> >> 33. >> >> ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. >> >> 34. >> >> SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. >> >> 35. >> >> EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. >> >> 36. >> >> JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. >> >> 37. >> >> EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. >> >> 38. >> >> DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. >> >> 39. >> >> JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. >> >> 40. >> >> LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. >> >> 41. >> >> ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. >> >> 42. >> >> VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. >> >> 43. >> >> JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE >> PAMPLIN. >> >> 44. >> >> ALMA BERRY,...................................................... >> m. NICK ALLEN. >> >> 45. >> >> LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. >> RUFUS BUCHANAN. >> >> 46. >> >> HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. >> (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. >> >> 47. >> >> LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. >> READE FOUSHEE. >> >> 48. >> >> AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. >> HOWARD SHULL.

Hello benjib2, I am not a descendant of the Wrenns you have posted although I do consider them cousins. I am working on the earlier generations of the family, and could perhaps help you with some of that. James Carraway Wrenn, Sr. was a son of Wiliam Warren Wrenn and his second wife, Jeanette Pleasant. I believe William Warren to be a younger brother of my ancestor, Sidney Wrenn, and son of James Wrenn and Mary Hamlin. It would appear that William Warren Wrenn's first wife, Leatha Hamlin, was most likely a cousin. Listed in the Census of 1840 with just him and his wife in the household. He is listed on page 286; John and Joseph Wrenn are listed on page 290; and Sidney Wrenn is listed on page 291. The 1850 Census listed William and wife, Leathy, ages 38 and 37 with their two sons. All were listed as having been born in North Carolina. The 1860 Census listed William and second wife, Jannet, ages 48 and 27, sons George and James, and the children of William and Jannett. All were listed as having been born in North Carolina. In the Census of 1880, William Warren stated that both of his parents had been born in Virginia, indicating that James Wrenn and Mary Hamlin were recently of Virginia when they were married in Person County, NC. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem, NC Descendant of Nathan Fox and Mary Jane Wrenn -----Original Message----- From: benjib2@earthlink.net To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [NCORANGE] Cousins I would like to contact any descendants from any person on the list below. They are all first cousins and were born in Orange, Durham, or Person County North Carolina 1. HENRY ROY ROGERS,.....................b. 1897; d. 1970; m. SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES; b. 1899. 2. DEWEY WASHINGTON ROGERS,.. b. 1899; m. LUCY HORTON. 3. CLYDE BANKS ROGERS,................. b. 1900; d. 1980; m. MYRTLE BLALOCK. 4. LEMUEL THOMAS ROGERS,........... b. 1902; d. 1943; m. RUBY BLALOCK. 5. WALTER MAINE ROGERS,...............b. 1903; m. MAY WHITFIELD. 6. .ZEB VANCE ROGERS,.......................b. 1905; m. ALMA ALLEN. 7. BANNIE MAE ROGERS,.................... b. 1907. 8. DANIEL HUBERT ROGERS,.............. b. 1909. 9. WALTER EDWARD WRENN,........... b. 1895; d. 1963. 10. IRA SAMUEL WRENN,....................... b. 1897; d. 1948. 11. AUTHUR THOMAS WRENN,............. b. 1899; d. 1900. 12. RALPH ELLISON WRENN,................. b. 1901; d. 1974. 13. VICTOR ARTHUR WRENN,............... b. 1902. 14. CLARENCE BOARDMAN WRENN,.. b. 1905; d. 1972. 15. TALMADGE DEAN WRENN,............. b. 1907; d. 1978. 16. RUTH JEANETTE WRENN, ................b. 1909. 17. JAMES CAROWAY WRENN JR.,....... b. 1911; d. 1968. 18. SADIE KATHERINE WRENN,............ b. 1914; d. 1977. 19. JAMES T CLAYTON,.......................... b. 1897. 20. SALLY BLANCHE CLAYTON,.......... b. 1903; m. CLARENCE ROGERS. 21. HURBERT Y CLAYTON,.................... b. 1905; m. ZOLENE CHANDLER. 22. ETHEL C CLAYTON,........................... b. 1907; m. WILLIE CLAYTON. 23. RUTH M CLAYTON, ............................b. 1909; m. BERMAN DICK CLAYTON. 24. NELL L CLAYTON,.............................. b. 1913; m. DAY CREED. 25. NANCY CLAYTON, ............................b. 1915; m. RAINEY WHITFIELD. 26. ANNIE BELLE CATES,...................... b. 1896. 27. SOPHIA CATES,................................... b. 1897. 28. SUSIE ELIZABETH CATES,............... b. 1899; m. HENRY ROY ROGERS; b. 1897; d. 1970. 29. JAMES CLYDE CATES,...................... b. 1900. 30. ADELINE FRANCES CATES,............. b. 1902; d. 1925; m. JOHN ALLEN. 31. WALTER THOMAS CATES,............... b. 1904; d. 1936. 32. JAMES SAMUEL CATES,................... b. 1905; d. 1959. 33. ANNA LOU CATES,............................. b. 1907. 34. SALLY CATES,..................................... b. 1908. 35. EMMA RENE CATES,.......................... b. 1909. 36. JULIA BRADLEY CATES,................... b. 1911. 37. EDISON COOPER CATES,................... b. 1912. 38. DELLA LEE CATES,............................. b. 1914. 39. JOHN DAVID CATES,.......................... b. 1916. 40. LOTTIE DARE CATES,......................... b. 1917. 41. ROBERSON CARTER CATES, .............b. 1919; d. 1930. 42. VIVANT HAMLIN BERRY. 43. JAMES EARL BERRY,........................... b. 1908; m. JOYCE PAMPLIN. 44. ALMA BERRY,...................................................... m. NICK ALLEN. 45. LUCILLE BERRY,................................... b. 1914; m. RUFUS BUCHANAN. 46. HAZEL BERRY, .......................................b. 1916; m. (1) PAUL MILAM; m. (2) TOMMY BRYANT. 47. LOTTIE BERRY,...................................... b. 1928; m. READE FOUSHEE. 48. AUDREY BERRY,................................................. m. 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