Katherine, I looked at the D.A.R. index listing for John Southard. It states he was in a private in the VA line, b. 9 Sep 1759, Belfield, Brunswick Co., VA, residence Sussex Co., VA, died ante Aug 1840 Orange Co., NC. Spouse Dorothy Gilliam. The only children listed are Gilliam, Maclin, and James. I have found many times that the first son was named for the paternal grandfather. Was the first son John or James? Sandra -----Original Message----- From: ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Reece Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:39 AM To: NCORANGE@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCORANGE] Searching for Southard Hello ... I'm new to this list. I am searching for my "dead end" ancestor Green W. Southard b. abt 1811. This is the page for him and his children at my website: http://www.katscelticroots.com/fam00156.htm On the 1850 Georgia census he says he was born in VA, however on the 1860 and 1870 Georgia censuses he says he was born in NC. There is a family tree at ancestry that lists a John Southard born Sept 9, 1758 in Beifield VA and died in 1833 in Orange Co., NC as Green's father. I emailed the person who submitted the information and asked him what his evidence was and was told that it was family Bible records, unfortunately I could not get him to email me a copy of the record and further emails have bounced. I have pulled John Southard's will (which thankfully the Alabama archives had) and Green is not mentioned among his children, Green would have been 16 at the time the will was written and I suppose that he could have already done something that could have caused him to be cut out of the will but it really seems unlikely to me. I also have John Southard's Rev War pension file, but there is no family information in it. It does however say John was living in "Orange County, North Carolina, within three or four miles of the Shallow Ford on the Haw River" when his pension was approved in 1832. The pension also lists his birthplace as Belfield VA and not Beifield VA. According to the will John's wife was named Dorothy (maiden name Gilliam?) and his children were Macklen, Polley, Gilliam, Tempey, Charles, James, Carter, and John. Is anyone familiar with this family? Thank you Katherine Southard-Reece ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello ... I'm new to this list. I am searching for my "dead end" ancestor Green W. Southard b. abt 1811. This is the page for him and his children at my website: http://www.katscelticroots.com/fam00156.htm On the 1850 Georgia census he says he was born in VA, however on the 1860 and 1870 Georgia censuses he says he was born in NC. There is a family tree at ancestry that lists a John Southard born Sept 9, 1758 in Beifield VA and died in 1833 in Orange Co., NC as Green's father. I emailed the person who submitted the information and asked him what his evidence was and was told that it was family Bible records, unfortunately I could not get him to email me a copy of the record and further emails have bounced. I have pulled John Southard's will (which thankfully the Alabama archives had) and Green is not mentioned among his children, Green would have been 16 at the time the will was written and I suppose that he could have already done something that could have caused him to be cut out of the will but it really seems unlikely to me. I also have John Southard's Rev War pension file, but there is no family information in it. It does however say John was living in "Orange County, North Carolina, within three or four miles of the Shallow Ford on the Haw River" when his pension was approved in 1832. The pension also lists his birthplace as Belfield VA and not Beifield VA. According to the will John's wife was named Dorothy (maiden name Gilliam?) and his children were Macklen, Polley, Gilliam, Tempey, Charles, James, Carter, and John. Is anyone familiar with this family? Thank you Katherine Southard-Reece

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Mary, I have no specific information on your family, but the second wife of Coleman Burch, b. in Person County, N.C., married Nannie Roan Compton. Nannie was born Aug. 15, 1843 and died March 19, 1909. Both Coleman and Nannie Burch were buried at Cedar Grove Methodist Church Cemetery, Orange County. Since Coleman was living in Cedar Grove before marrying Nannie, I would guess that she was also from the Cedar Grove area of Orange County. Maybe the 1850 Census could help you with this. Coleman married Nannie Roan Compton, June 19, 1881, and had one daughter,Edith Cameron Burch, who was born and died as an infant in 1884. Good luck, Cornelia DOES ANYONE HAVE A HARRIET COMPTON MARRIED TO THOMAS HOWARD FROM GREENVILLE, S.C. ABOUT 1838. I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY FINDING THIS COMPTON LINE. THE CENSUS SAYS SHE WAS BORN IN NORTH CAROLINA. THANKS MARY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

You may want to check in Greene County, Al. I roomed in nurses training in the 1950`s with a Compton from there. About the 1830`s was when a large group of persons from SC migrated to Alabama. Polly Clarke

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Hello J. Barton, The slave schedules? are like any census inventory in that they provide us great clues, but they are fallible. ? The slave schedules were most generally for recording the larger inventories of some families during that time, and would often miss single slaves. These, one will often pick up in estate records, if not designated elsewhere. Anyone looking for information on slaves might do well to check the church histories of the area.? The Primitive Baptist Churches were well known for including in their membership, slaves of owners who were members of these churches, and the graveyards often contain the remains of many of these slaves.? As luck would have it though, the graves were usually marked with non-engraved field stones. Other denominations should also be checked for similar listings. Some of the Primitive Baptist churches who served areas of Orange and Caswell, were Flat River and? Wheelers in the southwestern part of Person County, and Lynches Creek in the southeastern part of Caswell. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem, NC -----Original Message----- From: J. Barton <jreba_family@yahoo.com> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 9:21 am Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] COMPTON GENEALOGY John Compton was the only one that was a slave owner though per the slave schedule census. I'd hate to see someone waste their money ordering wills of people that were not on the slave schedules as slave owners. --- bebenjohn@aol.com wrote: > > There are several Acquilla Comptons in the > Caswell/Orange area, and this bears some tracing to > see the origin of them all. > > One Acquilla Compton was married to Phoebe Marsh ca. > 1799.? He was born 26 August 1770 in St. Mary's > County, Frederick, MD and died 6 Feb. 1822 in > Caswell County. This Acquilla was a son of Acquilla > Compton, Sr. of St. Mary's County, MD and his wife, > Elizsabeth Sierra/Norris (ne Sierra) The elder > Acquilla and Elizabeth were the parents of fourteen > children. > > A brother of the younger Acquilla, Erasamus Compton, > also settled into Caswell County with his wife > Margaret Smith, and one of their? daughters, Rachel, > became the wife of William Wilder D. Wells, an > ancestral cousin of mine. Also a grandson of > Erasamus, James Franklin Compton, Jr. married an > another ancestral cousin of mine, Nancy Pittard. > They resided in Orange County, NC. > > A daughter of Erasamus, Sarah Compton, married her > first cousin, Abner Compton, son of Acquilla and > Pheobe Compton; they settled into Missouri. > > There was another Acquilla Compton who married in > 1853 Julia Ann Walker, daughter of Freeman Walker > and his unknown first wife. Freeman Walker was a son > of Abner Walker and Sarah Bird of Orange County, NC. > This Acquilla was born in 1829 and was too late to > be the son of Acquilla and Phoebe Compton. That > Acquilla died in 1822 as mentioned above. I also > have kinship with the Bird and Walker families. > > I have not located all of the heirs of Erasamus > Compton, and it is possible that he had the son, > Acquilla who married Julia Ann Walker. > > I am not sure of what help this may be, but the > information does validate other Comptons in the > area. > > Best regards, > > John Fox > Winston Salem, NC > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BenbowKD@aol.com > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 7:19 am > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] COMPTON GENEALOGY > > > > > > > > > > > I checked my Thornton Mitchell index for NC wills > from 1665-1900, and there > are only four Compton wills listed: > > --- > > (surname, first name & any initial, county #, will > book letter & page, > location of original) > > --- > > Compton, Aquilia ... #073 (Orange), 1883, WB-H/334, > CTY (original is at > county courthouse) > > Compton, Hezekiah ... #104 (Wilkes), 1821, WB-4/14, > AR (original is at state > archives) > > Compton, John F. ... #073, 1890, WB-H/500, CTY > > Compton, John L. ... #20 (Caswell), 1896, WB-B/240, > CTY > > (NC has only 100 counties today, but this index > includes those counties > which operated for a while but which did not > continue for different reasons, > such > as Dobbs, Albemarle, etc. Some names were changed > to get rid of the names > of those associated with the Tories and the British > empire.) > > ------------------ > > Only two of these wills are in Orange County, but > Caswell was created from > Orange in 1777 and sits to the NW of it today. Some > families might have > relocated after the loss of family resources during > the Civil War. Wilkes > County > is in NW North Carolina and not near Orange. There > is not a Wesley Compton > listed anywhere in the state. This book does not > list those who died > intestate, and for those you would have to search > for estate records, which > might > still list the names of slaves in some situations. > The other records you could > > check would be court records for the sale of slaves > during the war (to get > needed cash) and other county records regarding > slaves. I don't know much > about this research specialty, but the NC > Genealogical Society has published > this > book, which you might want to try to find at a > local library: > > -------- > > (copied from the NCGS website at > _http://www.ncgenealogy.org/_ > (http://www.ncgenealogy.org/) > > North Carolina Freedman's Saving and Trust Company > Records, by Bill Reeves, > 1992, soft cover, 8 1/2" x 11", 598 pages, surname, > place name, occupation, > and military service indexes. PRICE $20.00 (add $4 > for S&H & NC residents add > sales tax of $0.70). > > (Description) In 1868, the U.S. Congress established > Freedman's banks to > enable slaves to have a place of deposit. Each > depositor was asked to provide > place of birth, where brought up, current residence, > age, complexion, > occupation, name of spouse, children, parents, > brothers and sisters, as well as > > physical features. Depositors appear from across > North Carolina and included > Caucasians. An excellent resource for > African-American Genealogy. > > -------- > > Good luck. And do remember that the state archives > search room is closed > until July 10th, and all correspondence on requests > for copies will be > substantially delayed. The Orange County courthouse > will have two of these > wills, > and any county courthouse should have the will book > copies of wills, even if > the original is at the archives. > > Katherine Dick Benbow > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Hello Mary, The Acquilla Compton who married Phoebe Marsh had a brother, Norris, who married a Mary Marsh. An Elizabeth Marsh married my GGGG Uncle, Elisha Wells.? Elisha was an uncle to the William Wider D. Wells who married the Rachel Compton daughter of Erasamus Compton.? Elisha and Elizabeth Marsh Wells settled for a number of years in the Spartenburg area of South Carolina which they left ca 1830 for DeKalb County, GA. Elizabeth's brother, Abner Marsh, apparently accompanied? Elisha and family to South Carolina where he married a Nancy Layton in South Carolina. It has been my experience to find some families kept together, especially in migratory groups which moved into new territory. I have not checked the Spartenburg area for any Comptons, but I would not doubt that some were in the area. I have intentionally given you all of the related family names above, so that you might check these out to see if any families of those names were in the vicinity of your Mary Compton. William Wilder D. Wells moved his family to Greene County, Missouri, where he was when each of his parents died.? William's mother was Elizabeth Compton Herndon who had married Rev. William Willis Wells in Orange County, NC. The following documents mention some other Comptons, whom I believe to be the brothers of his wife, Rachal Compton: Had a Chasey Crumpton(variation of Compton), age 34, living in the household in 1850. John Henderson Wells was security for this marriage. DEED BOOK 34 PAGE 451 ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA: WELLS TO COMPTON I, William W. Wells of County of Greene and State of Missouri do authorize John Compton of North Carolina as attorney, to take into his possession a certain slave named Alexander and to collect monies that is due me by inheritance from the estate of Willis Wells, deceased of Orange County. Witness:???????????????????????????????????????????????? Signed: 28 May 1854 Thomas M. Compton??????????????????????????????????????????? William W. Wells DEED BOOK 35 PAGE 138 ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA: I, Welder W. Wells of County of Webster and State of Missouri appoint Aquilla Compton of Orange County my attorney to collect all monies, that may be due me from the estate of Elizabeth Wells, deceased, County of Orange and State of North Carolina. Signed: 4 March 1856 Welder W. Wells In presence of Thomas M. Compton, Greene County, Missouri 23 May 1856. Thomas M. Compton appeared before us as a witness to above instrument and said it was written in his presence. Hope this is of help to someone. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem NC -----Original Message----- From: MEW0838@aol.com To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:01 am Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] COMPTON GENEALOGY DOES ANYONE HAVE A HARRIET COMPTON MARRIED TO THOMAS HOWARD FROM GREENVILLE, S.C. ABOUT 1838. I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY FINDING THIS COMPTON LINE. THE CENSUS SAYS SHE WAS BORN IN NORTH CAROLINA. THANKS MARY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

They might be fallible or not. In fact, it was a great clue for this person because if you look at the 1870 census, this person was living next door to a JOHN COMPTON (just as I found on the slave schedule). This John Compton was white! Thanks for the information though. Jenny --- bebenjohn@aol.com wrote: > > Hello J. Barton, > > The slave schedules? are like any census inventory > in that they provide us great clues, but they are > fallible. ? The slave schedules were most generally > for recording the larger inventories of some > families during that time, and would often miss > single slaves. These, one will often pick up in > estate records, if not designated elsewhere. > > Anyone looking for information on slaves might do > well to check the church histories of the area.? The > Primitive Baptist Churches were well known for > including in their membership, slaves of owners who > were members of these churches, and the graveyards > often contain the remains of many of these slaves.? > As luck would have it though, the graves were > usually marked with non-engraved field stones. Other > denominations should also be checked for similar > listings. > > Some of the Primitive Baptist churches who served > areas of Orange and Caswell, were Flat River and? > Wheelers in the southwestern part of Person County, > and Lynches Creek in the southeastern part of > Caswell. > > Best regards, > > John Fox > Winston Salem, NC > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Barton <jreba_family@yahoo.com> > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 9:21 am > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] COMPTON GENEALOGY > > > > > > > > > > > John Compton was the only one that was a slave owner > though per the slave schedule census. I'd hate to > see > someone waste their money ordering wills of people > that were not on the slave schedules as slave > owners. > > > > --- bebenjohn@aol.com wrote: > > > > > There are several Acquilla Comptons in the > > Caswell/Orange area, and this bears some tracing > to > > see the origin of them all. > > > > One Acquilla Compton was married to Phoebe Marsh > ca. > > 1799.? He was born 26 August 1770 in St. Mary's > > County, Frederick, MD and died 6 Feb. 1822 in > > Caswell County. This Acquilla was a son of > Acquilla > > Compton, Sr. of St. Mary's County, MD and his > wife, > > Elizsabeth Sierra/Norris (ne Sierra) The elder > > Acquilla and Elizabeth were the parents of > fourteen > > children. > > > > A brother of the younger Acquilla, Erasamus > Compton, > > also settled into Caswell County with his wife > > Margaret Smith, and one of their? daughters, > Rachel, > > became the wife of William Wilder D. Wells, an > > ancestral cousin of mine. Also a grandson of > > Erasamus, James Franklin Compton, Jr. married an > > another ancestral cousin of mine, Nancy Pittard. > > They resided in Orange County, NC. > > > > A daughter of Erasamus, Sarah Compton, married her > > first cousin, Abner Compton, son of Acquilla and > > Pheobe Compton; they settled into Missouri. > > > > There was another Acquilla Compton who married in > > 1853 Julia Ann Walker, daughter of Freeman Walker > > and his unknown first wife. Freeman Walker was a > son > > of Abner Walker and Sarah Bird of Orange County, > NC. > > This Acquilla was born in 1829 and was too late to > > be the son of Acquilla and Phoebe Compton. That > > Acquilla died in 1822 as mentioned above. I also > > have kinship with the Bird and Walker families. > > > > I have not located all of the heirs of Erasamus > > Compton, and it is possible that he had the son, > > Acquilla who married Julia Ann Walker. > > > > I am not sure of what help this may be, but the > > information does validate other Comptons in the > > area. > > > > Best regards, > > > > John Fox > > Winston Salem, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BenbowKD@aol.com > > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 7:19 am > > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] COMPTON GENEALOGY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked my Thornton Mitchell index for NC wills > > from 1665-1900, and there > > are only four Compton wills listed: > > > > --- > > > > (surname, first name & any initial, county #, will > > book letter & page, > > location of original) > > > > --- > > > > Compton, Aquilia ... #073 (Orange), 1883, > WB-H/334, > > CTY (original is at > > county courthouse) > > > > Compton, Hezekiah ... #104 (Wilkes), 1821, > WB-4/14, > > AR (original is at state > > archives) > > > > Compton, John F. ... #073, 1890, WB-H/500, CTY > > > > Compton, John L. ... #20 (Caswell), 1896, > WB-B/240, > > CTY > > > > (NC has only 100 counties today, but this index > > includes those counties > > which operated for a while but which did not > > continue for different reasons, > > such > > as Dobbs, Albemarle, etc. Some names were changed > > to get rid of the names > > of those associated with the Tories and the > British > > empire.) > > > > ------------------ > > > > Only two of these wills are in Orange County, but > > Caswell was created from > > Orange in 1777 and sits to the NW of it today. > Some > > families might have > > relocated after the loss of family resources > during > > the Civil War. Wilkes > > County > > is in NW North Carolina and not near Orange. > There > > is not a Wesley Compton > > listed anywhere in the state. This book does not > > list those who died > > intestate, and for those you would have to search > > for estate records, which > > might > > still list the names of slaves in some situations. > > > The other records you could > > > > check would be court records for the sale of > slaves > > during the war (to get > > needed cash) and other county records regarding > > slaves. I don't know much > > about this research specialty, but the NC > > Genealogical Society has published > > this > > book, which you might want to try to find at a > > local library: > > > > -------- > > > > (copied from the NCGS website at > > _http://www.ncgenealogy.org/_ > > (http://www.ncgenealogy.org/) > > > > North Carolina Freedman's Saving and Trust Company > > Records, by Bill Reeves, > > 1992, soft cover, 8 1/2" x 11", 598 pages, > surname, > > place name, occupation, > > and military service indexes. PRICE $20.00 (add $4 > > for S&H & NC residents add > > sales tax of $0.70). > > > > (Description) In 1868, the U.S. Congress > established > > Freedman's banks to > > enable slaves to have a place of deposit. Each > > depositor was asked to provide > > place of birth, where brought up, current > residence, > > age, complexion, > > occupation, name of spouse, children, parents, > > brothers and sisters, as well as > > > > physical features. Depositors appear from across > > North Carolina and included > > Caucasians. An excellent resource for > > African-American Genealogy. > > > > -------- > > > > Good luck. And do remember that the state > archives > > search room is closed > > until July 10th, and all correspondence on > requests > > for copies will be > > substantially delayed. The Orange County > courthouse > > will have two of these > > wills, > > and any county courthouse should have the will > book > > copies of wills, even if > > the original is at the archives. > > > > Katherine Dick Benbow > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's > > free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of > > the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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DOES ANYONE HAVE A HARRIET COMPTON MARRIED TO THOMAS HOWARD FROM GREENVILLE, S.C. ABOUT 1838. I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY FINDING THIS COMPTON LINE. THE CENSUS SAYS SHE WAS BORN IN NORTH CAROLINA. THANKS MARY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

There are several Acquilla Comptons in the Caswell/Orange area, and this bears some tracing to see the origin of them all. One Acquilla Compton was married to Phoebe Marsh ca. 1799.? He was born 26 August 1770 in St. Mary's County, Frederick, MD and died 6 Feb. 1822 in Caswell County. This Acquilla was a son of Acquilla Compton, Sr. of St. Mary's County, MD and his wife, Elizsabeth Sierra/Norris (ne Sierra) The elder Acquilla and Elizabeth were the parents of fourteen children. A brother of the younger Acquilla, Erasamus Compton, also settled into Caswell County with his wife Margaret Smith, and one of their? daughters, Rachel, became the wife of William Wilder D. Wells, an ancestral cousin of mine. Also a grandson of Erasamus, James Franklin Compton, Jr. married an another ancestral cousin of mine, Nancy Pittard. They resided in Orange County, NC. A daughter of Erasamus, Sarah Compton, married her first cousin, Abner Compton, son of Acquilla and Pheobe Compton; they settled into Missouri. There was another Acquilla Compton who married in 1853 Julia Ann Walker, daughter of Freeman Walker and his unknown first wife. Freeman Walker was a son of Abner Walker and Sarah Bird of Orange County, NC. This Acquilla was born in 1829 and was too late to be the son of Acquilla and Phoebe Compton. That Acquilla died in 1822 as mentioned above. I also have kinship with the Bird and Walker families. I have not located all of the heirs of Erasamus Compton, and it is possible that he had the son, Acquilla who married Julia Ann Walker. I am not sure of what help this may be, but the information does validate other Comptons in the area. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem, NC -----Original Message----- From: BenbowKD@aol.com To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 7:19 am Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] COMPTON GENEALOGY I checked my Thornton Mitchell index for NC wills from 1665-1900, and there are only four Compton wills listed: --- (surname, first name & any initial, county #, will book letter & page, location of original) --- Compton, Aquilia ... #073 (Orange), 1883, WB-H/334, CTY (original is at county courthouse) Compton, Hezekiah ... #104 (Wilkes), 1821, WB-4/14, AR (original is at state archives) Compton, John F. ... #073, 1890, WB-H/500, CTY Compton, John L. ... #20 (Caswell), 1896, WB-B/240, CTY (NC has only 100 counties today, but this index includes those counties which operated for a while but which did not continue for different reasons, such as Dobbs, Albemarle, etc. Some names were changed to get rid of the names of those associated with the Tories and the British empire.) ------------------ Only two of these wills are in Orange County, but Caswell was created from Orange in 1777 and sits to the NW of it today. Some families might have relocated after the loss of family resources during the Civil War. Wilkes County is in NW North Carolina and not near Orange. There is not a Wesley Compton listed anywhere in the state. This book does not list those who died intestate, and for those you would have to search for estate records, which might still list the names of slaves in some situations. The other records you could check would be court records for the sale of slaves during the war (to get needed cash) and other county records regarding slaves. I don't know much about this research specialty, but the NC Genealogical Society has published this book, which you might want to try to find at a local library: -------- (copied from the NCGS website at _http://www.ncgenealogy.org/_ (http://www.ncgenealogy.org/) North Carolina Freedman's Saving and Trust Company Records, by Bill Reeves, 1992, soft cover, 8 1/2" x 11", 598 pages, surname, place name, occupation, and military service indexes. PRICE $20.00 (add $4 for S&H & NC residents add sales tax of $0.70). (Description) In 1868, the U.S. Congress established Freedman's banks to enable slaves to have a place of deposit. Each depositor was asked to provide place of birth, where brought up, current residence, age, complexion, occupation, name of spouse, children, parents, brothers and sisters, as well as physical features. Depositors appear from across North Carolina and included Caucasians. An excellent resource for African-American Genealogy. -------- Good luck. And do remember that the state archives search room is closed until July 10th, and all correspondence on requests for copies will be substantially delayed. The Orange County courthouse will have two of these wills, and any county courthouse should have the will book copies of wills, even if the original is at the archives. 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It's always dangerous to do correspondence before the coffee goes to work! Obviously, the will written in 1821 in Wilkes County won't be one that you'd need to check. (It does seem unusual that there are only four Compton's listed in the whole of NC for 1665-1900. Wonder why.) A lot can happen - and did happen - in the decades between the 1860's and the 1880's to 1890's. Do keep in mind that many families relocated after the war, and so their wills won't be in the same locations as where they lived during the 1860's. Some might have moved further south, but others could have migrated to the west. Land records might be helpful in terms of finding out if and when they left the area, as well as the census records. Katherine ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I checked my Thornton Mitchell index for NC wills from 1665-1900, and there are only four Compton wills listed: --- (surname, first name & any initial, county #, will book letter & page, location of original) --- Compton, Aquilia ... #073 (Orange), 1883, WB-H/334, CTY (original is at county courthouse) Compton, Hezekiah ... #104 (Wilkes), 1821, WB-4/14, AR (original is at state archives) Compton, John F. ... #073, 1890, WB-H/500, CTY Compton, John L. ... #20 (Caswell), 1896, WB-B/240, CTY (NC has only 100 counties today, but this index includes those counties which operated for a while but which did not continue for different reasons, such as Dobbs, Albemarle, etc. Some names were changed to get rid of the names of those associated with the Tories and the British empire.) ------------------ Only two of these wills are in Orange County, but Caswell was created from Orange in 1777 and sits to the NW of it today. Some families might have relocated after the loss of family resources during the Civil War. Wilkes County is in NW North Carolina and not near Orange. There is not a Wesley Compton listed anywhere in the state. This book does not list those who died intestate, and for those you would have to search for estate records, which might still list the names of slaves in some situations. The other records you could check would be court records for the sale of slaves during the war (to get needed cash) and other county records regarding slaves. I don't know much about this research specialty, but the NC Genealogical Society has published this book, which you might want to try to find at a local library: -------- (copied from the NCGS website at _http://www.ncgenealogy.org/_ (http://www.ncgenealogy.org/) North Carolina Freedman's Saving and Trust Company Records, by Bill Reeves, 1992, soft cover, 8 1/2" x 11", 598 pages, surname, place name, occupation, and military service indexes. PRICE $20.00 (add $4 for S&H & NC residents add sales tax of $0.70). (Description) In 1868, the U.S. Congress established Freedman's banks to enable slaves to have a place of deposit. Each depositor was asked to provide place of birth, where brought up, current residence, age, complexion, occupation, name of spouse, children, parents, brothers and sisters, as well as physical features. Depositors appear from across North Carolina and included Caucasians. An excellent resource for African-American Genealogy. -------- Good luck. And do remember that the state archives search room is closed until July 10th, and all correspondence on requests for copies will be substantially delayed. The Orange County courthouse will have two of these wills, and any county courthouse should have the will book copies of wills, even if the original is at the archives. Katherine Dick Benbow ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

John Compton was the only one that was a slave owner though per the slave schedule census. I'd hate to see someone waste their money ordering wills of people that were not on the slave schedules as slave owners. --- bebenjohn@aol.com wrote: > > There are several Acquilla Comptons in the > Caswell/Orange area, and this bears some tracing to > see the origin of them all. > > One Acquilla Compton was married to Phoebe Marsh ca. > 1799.? He was born 26 August 1770 in St. Mary's > County, Frederick, MD and died 6 Feb. 1822 in > Caswell County. This Acquilla was a son of Acquilla > Compton, Sr. of St. Mary's County, MD and his wife, > Elizsabeth Sierra/Norris (ne Sierra) The elder > Acquilla and Elizabeth were the parents of fourteen > children. > > A brother of the younger Acquilla, Erasamus Compton, > also settled into Caswell County with his wife > Margaret Smith, and one of their? daughters, Rachel, > became the wife of William Wilder D. Wells, an > ancestral cousin of mine. Also a grandson of > Erasamus, James Franklin Compton, Jr. married an > another ancestral cousin of mine, Nancy Pittard. > They resided in Orange County, NC. > > A daughter of Erasamus, Sarah Compton, married her > first cousin, Abner Compton, son of Acquilla and > Pheobe Compton; they settled into Missouri. > > There was another Acquilla Compton who married in > 1853 Julia Ann Walker, daughter of Freeman Walker > and his unknown first wife. Freeman Walker was a son > of Abner Walker and Sarah Bird of Orange County, NC. > This Acquilla was born in 1829 and was too late to > be the son of Acquilla and Phoebe Compton. That > Acquilla died in 1822 as mentioned above. I also > have kinship with the Bird and Walker families. > > I have not located all of the heirs of Erasamus > Compton, and it is possible that he had the son, > Acquilla who married Julia Ann Walker. > > I am not sure of what help this may be, but the > information does validate other Comptons in the > area. > > Best regards, > > John Fox > Winston Salem, NC > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BenbowKD@aol.com > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 7:19 am > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] COMPTON GENEALOGY > > > > > > > > > > > I checked my Thornton Mitchell index for NC wills > from 1665-1900, and there > are only four Compton wills listed: > > --- > > (surname, first name & any initial, county #, will > book letter & page, > location of original) > > --- > > Compton, Aquilia ... #073 (Orange), 1883, WB-H/334, > CTY (original is at > county courthouse) > > Compton, Hezekiah ... #104 (Wilkes), 1821, WB-4/14, > AR (original is at state > archives) > > Compton, John F. ... #073, 1890, WB-H/500, CTY > > Compton, John L. ... #20 (Caswell), 1896, WB-B/240, > CTY > > (NC has only 100 counties today, but this index > includes those counties > which operated for a while but which did not > continue for different reasons, > such > as Dobbs, Albemarle, etc. Some names were changed > to get rid of the names > of those associated with the Tories and the British > empire.) > > ------------------ > > Only two of these wills are in Orange County, but > Caswell was created from > Orange in 1777 and sits to the NW of it today. Some > families might have > relocated after the loss of family resources during > the Civil War. Wilkes > County > is in NW North Carolina and not near Orange. There > is not a Wesley Compton > listed anywhere in the state. This book does not > list those who died > intestate, and for those you would have to search > for estate records, which > might > still list the names of slaves in some situations. > The other records you could > > check would be court records for the sale of slaves > during the war (to get > needed cash) and other county records regarding > slaves. I don't know much > about this research specialty, but the NC > Genealogical Society has published > this > book, which you might want to try to find at a > local library: > > -------- > > (copied from the NCGS website at > _http://www.ncgenealogy.org/_ > (http://www.ncgenealogy.org/) > > North Carolina Freedman's Saving and Trust Company > Records, by Bill Reeves, > 1992, soft cover, 8 1/2" x 11", 598 pages, surname, > place name, occupation, > and military service indexes. PRICE $20.00 (add $4 > for S&H & NC residents add > sales tax of $0.70). > > (Description) In 1868, the U.S. Congress established > Freedman's banks to > enable slaves to have a place of deposit. Each > depositor was asked to provide > place of birth, where brought up, current residence, > age, complexion, > occupation, name of spouse, children, parents, > brothers and sisters, as well as > > physical features. Depositors appear from across > North Carolina and included > Caucasians. An excellent resource for > African-American Genealogy. > > -------- > > Good luck. And do remember that the state archives > search room is closed > until July 10th, and all correspondence on requests > for copies will be > substantially delayed. The Orange County courthouse > will have two of these > wills, > and any county courthouse should have the will book > copies of wills, even if > the original is at the archives. > > Katherine Dick Benbow > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Hi Deshun, Just out of curiosity, I looked up Comptons (slave owners) in the 1860 slave schedules for North Carolina. I don't know if you've ever done this, but there are only three Comptons in the whole state in 1860 that owned slaves. Here's the names: Allen Compton Wesley Compton John Compton Interestingly enough, they are all in Orange County. Since your ancestory would have been about 6 that year, I looked at the ages of the male slaves (names aren't given, only ages and sex), Wesley Compton was the only one with a 6 year old male. Allen Compton had a 4, 8 and 10 year old males and older and John Compton only had older teenagers and young men. If you can order these men's wills, you MIGHT find that slaves are named and "left" as property for family members or instructions about giving them their freedom. I wish you well and hope you can order the wills and get lucky with that info! Jenny Barton --- deshun durden <dsd7766@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS JOHN COMPTON.HIS WIFE > LUCINDA FULLER WAS MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDMOTHER. HE > WAS > BORN ABOUT 1854. SHE WAS BORN ABOUT 1858. I BELIEVE > THEY WERE SLAVES. THEY HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN JOHN JR. > GREEN, WILLIE, EDDIE,BETTIE AND JAMES WHO WAS MY > GREAT > GRANDFATHER.AFTER LUCINDA DIED, JOHN MARRIED > CAROLINE > AND THEY HAD CHILDREN. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php

MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS JOHN COMPTON.HIS WIFE LUCINDA FULLER WAS MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDMOTHER. HE WAS BORN ABOUT 1854. SHE WAS BORN ABOUT 1858. I BELIEVE THEY WERE SLAVES. THEY HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN JOHN JR. GREEN, WILLIE, EDDIE,BETTIE AND JAMES WHO WAS MY GREAT GRANDFATHER.AFTER LUCINDA DIED, JOHN MARRIED CAROLINE AND THEY HAD CHILDREN.

Parts of the Archives website are down for maintenance this weekend. I'd give it a few days and then try again. If that doesn't solve the problem, contact them by e-mail. Katherine ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Does anyone know why we can no longer access the webpage listed at the bottom of this original message? I explored it the day that I received this e-mail but have not been able to open the site since that date. Does any one have any suggestions? Dottie Pickett ************************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RLMLFM@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:25 PM To: NCORANGE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Germans of Orange & Alamance Alamance County was originally part of Orange County, the county immediately to the east. Alamance County was officially proclaimed a county in April of 1849. The boundary to the north finds Caswell County, south is Chatham Co unty, and west is Guilford County. Few facts in Alamance history are more disputed than the origin of the name "Alamance". Although some sources claim that Alamance was named by early German immigrants who came here from the "Alemanni" region of the Rhineland, others claim that the Indians called the Alamance Creek by the Indian word "Amonsi" or "Alamons," which meant "noisy river" or by another word which meant "blue clay". An interesting article about German immigrants in North Carolina can be found here: _http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/hp/colonial/Bookshelf/lutheran/intro .h tm_ (http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/hp/colonial/Bookshelf/lutheran/intro .htm) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hope you won`t mind if I butt into your conversation but I would like very much to know which Wadsworth of Moore County, NC you are descended from. My gggrandfather, Daniel Wadsworth, son of John William Wadsworth, came to Autuaga Co, Alabama, from Moore Co in 1837 or a little earlier. I descend from his son William W Wadsworth through his daughter Nellie Wadsworth who married my grandfather, Stonewall W Jackson in the late 1800`s in Al. From what I can learn John William or William John was the son of John William or William John Wadsworth who descended from Peter Wadsworth and Nancy Alston. Information from a cousin who is dead now but spent much time working on this family stated that Peter migrated to the US from Warwichshire, England. Can you correct some of my information or add to it? Thanks, Polly Clarke, Birmingham, Ala