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Hello List, I'm new and I'm researching my fathers side of the family that came from Orange NC. The surname is "MASON" My ancestor is William Mason born 1775 and he married in to the Powell family. Is there any one on the list that has done research on these surnames? Thanks for any help Brenda
In this same will?for George Reeves (WB D:605) also listed are daughters Sarah Durham and Nancy Baldwin. WB E:147 Will of Sally Lewis Reeves dated 7 March 1827, mentions sister Martha E. Reeves, brother George Washington Reeves, brother John Claiborn Reeves and "HIS" brother William B. Hill, deceased, and father Willis Reeves. Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: The Hart's <jimmyrhonda@bellsouth.net> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:18 pm Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] George Frederick Reeves of Orange Co. Abstracts of Wills Recorded in Orange County, North Carolina 1752-1800; 1800-1850 By Ruth Herndon Shields. Willbook D 605 will dated 30 May 1821, proved August Court 1821 George Reeves (no wife mentioned) sons: John, George, James and Frederick Reeves. witnesses: William Brown, James Bishop and John Brown -------------------------------------------------- From: "pboan" <pboan001@triad.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:39 AM To: <NCORANGE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NCORANGE] George Frederick Reeves of Orange Co. > I wanted to ask abt George Frederick Reeves By any chance does anyone > have a complete list of his children or a copy of his will? I have been > looking for my ancestors father in Orange Co. NC and found in the book, > Orange Co. NC will abstracts where George Frederick Reeves is listed along > with the names: Geo JR., James, JOhn, Nancy, Sarah, Geo W. John C., > Martha, Sally Lewis, Willis, James, John, John, Thomas, Thomas. Trying > to piece together who these people are in connection with Geo. Thanks, Pam > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Abstracts of Wills Recorded in Orange County, North Carolina 1752-1800; 1800-1850 By Ruth Herndon Shields. Willbook D 605 will dated 30 May 1821, proved August Court 1821 George Reeves (no wife mentioned) sons: John, George, James and Frederick Reeves. witnesses: William Brown, James Bishop and John Brown -------------------------------------------------- From: "pboan" <pboan001@triad.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:39 AM To: <NCORANGE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NCORANGE] George Frederick Reeves of Orange Co. > I wanted to ask abt George Frederick Reeves By any chance does anyone > have a complete list of his children or a copy of his will? I have been > looking for my ancestors father in Orange Co. NC and found in the book, > Orange Co. NC will abstracts where George Frederick Reeves is listed along > with the names: Geo JR., James, JOhn, Nancy, Sarah, Geo W. John C., > Martha, Sally Lewis, Willis, James, John, John, Thomas, Thomas. Trying > to piece together who these people are in connection with Geo. Thanks, Pam > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I wanted to ask abt George Frederick Reeves By any chance does anyone have a complete list of his children or a copy of his will? I have been looking for my ancestors father in Orange Co. NC and found in the book, Orange Co. NC will abstracts where George Frederick Reeves is listed along with the names: Geo JR., James, JOhn, Nancy, Sarah, Geo W. John C., Martha, Sally Lewis, Willis, James, John, John, Thomas, Thomas. Trying to piece together who these people are in connection with Geo. Thanks, Pam
This is the information I have on the Reeves, which is not much. Got this information in 2000 from FamilySearch Ancestral File v4.19. John Reeves birth; 1771, Orange, North Carolina death; 1854 Bingham Township, Orange, North Carolina. burial; Bingham Township, Orange, North Carolina. Reeves-Mccauley. This may be the name of the cemetary. He had a daughter, Sinah M. Reeves, born; 31 December1816, Bingham Township, Orange, North Carolina. Died; 21 September 1897, Saxapahaw, Alamance, North Carolina. Buried Saxapahaw, Alamance, North Carolina, Moore's Chapel Cemetary. She married 28 November,1838 to Chesley Moore. Chesley was born 27 November 1815 in Orange, North Carolina. Died 27 March, 1901 in Saxapahaw, Alamance, North Carolina. Buried Saxapahaw, Alamance, North Carolina. I have no other information about her brothers or sisters if there were any. The interest I had in her was one of her daughters, Mary F. Moore married William A. Kirkpatrick. They had a son William Chesley Kirkpatrick who married Lydia Mary Staley. They had my father Alton Kermit Kirkpatrick. I hope this will help your search. Nina Jo Hoover Felton, Pa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pboan" <pboan001@triad.rr.com> To: <NCORANGE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: [NCORANGE] Reeves of Orange Co. NC > Hi everyone- > was wondering if anyone could tell me anything of the Reeves of Orange Co., North Carolina. Want to get my duck in a row before I head to the Raleigh Archives. > > I am trying to track my brick wall- the parents of the > Rev. WILLIS REEVES > born May 07, 1778 in Orange Co. died 1848 Tn. > Married first to Mary Clayton and second to Thisbe (Jones) Higbee. > > There is suggestion that his parents were John and Mary Reeves. Mary who died 1-09-1832 but I want to find proof if poss. so I need to know about who they all are and if poss how they are connected. > > In 1790 Orange Co census: there is a George Reeves > and John Rives/Reeves (seen records with both spellings) (1790 U.S. Census) > NORTH CAROLINA , ORANGE DIST TAX LIst > Series: M637 Roll: 7 Page: 27 > > In the 1790 Wake Co. Hillsborough District census: > Hannah Rives > Hardy Rives > Jonathan > William > William Jr. > > 1800 Orange census: > John Reeves 1 male under 10 > 2 males 16-25 > 1 male 45 up > 1 female under 10 > 2 females 26-44 > 1810 Orange: > A.Reeves 1 male under 10 > 1 male 1-15 > 1 male 16-25 > 1 female 10-15 > 1 female 16-25 > F. Reeves 3 male under 10 > 1 male 26-45 > 1 female 16-25 > Jas Reeves 3 males under 10 > 1 male 26-44 > 1 female 16-25 > Geo Reeves Sr. 1 male 16-25 > 2 males 26-44 > 1 male 45 up > J.B.F Reeves 1 male under 10 > 1 male 16-25 > 1 male 26-44 > 3 females under 10 > 2 females 10-15 > 1 female 16-25 > 1 female 26-44 > Michael Reeves 1 male under 10 > 1 male 16-25 > 1 female under 10 > 1 female 10-15 > 1 female 26-44 > 1 female 45 up > Willis Reeves 2 males under 10 > 4 males 16-25 > 1 male 26-44 > 2 females under 10 > 1 female 26-44 > > 1830 orange Co. NC Census Indexed but don't have access to 1830: > Fed ( prob. Frederick) Reeves > Geo Reeves > Geo Reeves Jr. > John Reeves > John Reeves > Thomas Reeves > Thomas C.Reeves > Willis Reeves > Zachariah Reeves > > I would appreciate any help or suggestions on any of the above named as well as research at the Raleigh Archives. > thanks, > Pam > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! You have made my day. Now I need a copy of this. Also thanks for the information that you added in Franklin Co., Ga. I had most of it already. I have chased this family all over Del., Va, NC, SC, Ga, Ala., to TX and Ks. and living in the South it is hard to find records that has not been destroyed. I know part of this family (Waldraven) is in Stokes County, NC also but have not been able to make the connection with them as of yet. If you notice one of Elizabeth's name on the 1828 Lottery is Waldraven. Several of the males have had the DNA test and we know that the ones in GA and the ones in Del. are connected by DNA but with out the paper trail we really don't have anything, because you still don't know just how they are connected. I have been researching this family for over 30 years, but living in Georgia, myself and getting up in age it is hard to do the research that I once was able to do. Thank goodness for people like you. Also thanks for the history lesson. I have always said you have to know the history of the county to be able to do the research. What you stated, is just one more clue that ties the NC Walravens back to the Del. Walravens. Claudia ----- Original Message ----- From: <rlmlfm@aol.com> To: <NCORANGE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] John Walraven > > > It appears that your John Walraven did serve from?North Carolina?in?the Revolutionary War per the following. > > North Carolina Revolutionary Army Accounts: > > Walraven, John > > References: I 104 2 > > > (Source: North Carolina State Archives at http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/) > > > Here are a few listings for John Walraven in Franklin County, GA in case you don't already?have these. > > Georgia 1792-1819 Tax Lists shows John Walravin in 1806 Franklin County, GA, John Waliraven in 1808 Franklin County, GA, and John Walraven in 1811 Franklin County, GA. > > Linda > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
John, I like your "history lesson." I'm searching in the general area you discuss below, and it makes things more interesting to have better descriptions. Thanks, Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] John Walraven in Orange/Alamance > Hello Claudia, > > My wife has informed you that the Roney name is associated with the > part of Orange that became Alamance County in 1849. > > The Benjamin Roney mentioned in the deeds you provided was a son of > James Roney. James Roney had been in the area that later became > Richmond, VA, ....... settled in 1755 on Back Creek in the area of > Orange County that became Alamance County, where it is intersected by > Interstate 85. Benjamin Roney was married to Catherine Andrews ca 1774 > in Orange County. Back Creek is in what is now the Melville Township > of Alamance County before it merges with the Haw River just below the > county seat of Graham, NC. This is also very near the area known as > the Hawfields where Hawfield's Presbyterian Church was establised. > Many of these families were perhaps attracted to the area by the > following: > > "December 5, 1771 > The Pennsylvania Gazette > > To be SOLD in small Tracts, ABOUT 30,000 acres of land, in Orange > county, North-Carolina, commonly called the Haw-fields; the quality of > these lands is so generally known, that it is needless to say any thing > in recommendation of them, only this may be proper to mention, that > they produce as good wheat as any in Pennsylvania, and being a strong > soil, will bear extraordinary hemp, flax, and tobacco; there is > navigation within 70 miles, several reputable merchants having lately > established stores at Cross-creek, the want of which formerly obliged > the inhabitants of Orange county to carry their flour sometimes 180 > miles by land; this inconvenience being obviated by the settlement at > Cross-creek abovementioned, and the peace of the country being now > happily restored, and settled upon a solid foundation, there is no > doubt but this part of it will shortly become as flourishing as any in > America. > > WANTED, a person who is perfectly master of the cultivation and > management of hemp, with regard to the water rotting. &c. Any one so > qualified, and willing to go to North Carolina to superintend a hemp > plantation for such a part of the profit as shall be agreed upon > between him and the proprietor of the land and negroes, may apply to > Mr. JOHN BIDDLE, at the Sign of the Indian King, in Market-street, > Philadelphia. > > N. B. The proprietor may be met with at the Secretary’s-Office, at > Newbern, in North-Carolina, during the winter months, and in the summer > season at Hillsborough, within 12 miles of the Haw-fields, and Mr. JOHN > WOOD, who lives upon the land, will shew any of the tracts to those > that are inclinable to become purchasers." > > I apologize for what appears to be a history lesson of the area, but > hopefully some of this may give you insights into where you might look > for the earlier origins of your Walraven family, as most of the > families who settled that very specific area of Orange, did hark back > to Pennsylvania and adjacent areas of Delaware and Maryland. > > Very best regards > > John Fox > Winston Salem, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Claudia Brumbalow <poohbear2@communicomm.com> > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:19 pm > Subject: [NCORANGE] John Walraven > > I need help on the following and would appreciate any help; > > I know that John Walraven was in Orange Co. NC by the following but > have not > been able to find anything else on him in North Carolina. I know that > his > wife Elizabeth received two draws in the 1827 Land Lottery of Georgia. > One of the draws she is listed as (wid R. S.) I have not been able to > find > if John Walraven served in the Rev War in North Carolina or not. I > know > that he died Sept. 6, 1814 in Franklin Co., Ga. and he is listed on the > 1790 Census in Abbyville, South Carolina. > > North Carolina tax List 1679- 1790 volume two - John Waldraven, Orange > county, 1779 > > ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 4 > P. 21, 28 September 1786, John Walraven Orange, singular, and Elizabeth > his > wife to John McMurty (no county given), seventy five pounds, 150 acres, > on > both sides Scrub Cr., bounded on N by land of Deharty Allen & on S by > Benjamin Roney, granted Walraven 13 March 1789, begin at a black jack, > W 50 > ch. to a white oak, N 30 ch. to a white oak, E 50 ch. to a hickory, S > 30 ch. > to first station; signed: John Walraven, Elizabeth (x) Walraven; > witness; > Dougharty Allen, James McMurtery; proved August 1788 Term by John > McMurtery. > (Ed. notes: see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 in name of John > Walraven.) > > ORANGE COUNTY STATE LAND GRANTS. > 301,32:449, Benjamin Roney, beginning at a Black Jack thence West fifty > Ch > to a hickory thence North, thirty Ch to a Black Jack thence East fifty > Ch > to a White oak thence South thirty Ch to the first Station, surveyed > August > 7th 1779 by John Harrington DpSur, John Allen & John King SCC, on Scrub > Creek a branch of Quaker Creek Bounded on the North by land of John > Walmaven, Running South for Complement, Including his Improvement. > > ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 2 > p. 312 March 1780, North Carolina to Benjamin Roney, fifty shillings > per > hundred acres, 150 acres, on Serub Cr. a Branch of Quaker Cr., bound on > N by > John Walraven, being at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a hickory, N 30 ch > to a > black jack, E 50 ch, to a white oak, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: > Richard Caswell; witness: none given; no probate records. > (Ed. notes see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 > > ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA > (1890 ) - 146 Aug Term 1788 > The Execution of a Deed from John Walraven & Wife to John McMurtery was > duly > proved in open Court by the Oath of James McHurtery one of the > subscribing > Witnesses thereto & ordered to be Registered. > > > This can be found in the "Reprint of Official Register of Land Lottery > of > Georgia 1827" Compiled and Published by Miss Martha Lou Houston > Southern > Historical Press, Inc. c/o The Rev. S. Emmett Lucas, Jr. P.O. Box 738 > Easley, South Carolina 29641-0738 > page 117 Gwinnett Co. Elizabeth Wallraven, wid. Greens No. 193 Dt. > 8 > Sec. 1 > > Page 199 Gwinnett Co. Eliz. Waldraven, w. R. S. Greens No. 225 Dt. > 23 Sec > 1 > > The above were sold at her death and are listed in the court records of > Franklin Co., Ga. Her name is spelled different on the lottery both is > proven as the same person in the Franklin Co., Ga. records. > > Claudia
Hi everyone- was wondering if anyone could tell me anything of the Reeves of Orange Co., North Carolina. Want to get my duck in a row before I head to the Raleigh Archives. I am trying to track my brick wall- the parents of the Rev. WILLIS REEVES born May 07, 1778 in Orange Co. died 1848 Tn. Married first to Mary Clayton and second to Thisbe (Jones) Higbee. There is suggestion that his parents were John and Mary Reeves. Mary who died 1-09-1832 but I want to find proof if poss. so I need to know about who they all are and if poss how they are connected. In 1790 Orange Co census: there is a George Reeves and John Rives/Reeves (seen records with both spellings) (1790 U.S. Census) NORTH CAROLINA , ORANGE DIST TAX LIst Series: M637 Roll: 7 Page: 27 In the 1790 Wake Co. Hillsborough District census: Hannah Rives Hardy Rives Jonathan William William Jr. 1800 Orange census: John Reeves 1 male under 10 2 males 16-25 1 male 45 up 1 female under 10 2 females 26-44 1810 Orange: A.Reeves 1 male under 10 1 male 1-15 1 male 16-25 1 female 10-15 1 female 16-25 F. Reeves 3 male under 10 1 male 26-45 1 female 16-25 Jas Reeves 3 males under 10 1 male 26-44 1 female 16-25 Geo Reeves Sr. 1 male 16-25 2 males 26-44 1 male 45 up J.B.F Reeves 1 male under 10 1 male 16-25 1 male 26-44 3 females under 10 2 females 10-15 1 female 16-25 1 female 26-44 Michael Reeves 1 male under 10 1 male 16-25 1 female under 10 1 female 10-15 1 female 26-44 1 female 45 up Willis Reeves 2 males under 10 4 males 16-25 1 male 26-44 2 females under 10 1 female 26-44 1830 orange Co. NC Census Indexed but don't have access to 1830: Fed ( prob. Frederick) Reeves Geo Reeves Geo Reeves Jr. John Reeves John Reeves Thomas Reeves Thomas C.Reeves Willis Reeves Zachariah Reeves I would appreciate any help or suggestions on any of the above named as well as research at the Raleigh Archives. thanks, Pam
It appears that your John Walraven did serve from?North Carolina?in?the Revolutionary War per the following. North Carolina Revolutionary Army Accounts: Walraven, John References: I 104 2 (Source: North Carolina State Archives at http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/) Here are a few listings for John Walraven in Franklin County, GA in case you don't already?have these. Georgia 1792-1819 Tax Lists shows John Walravin in 1806 Franklin County, GA, John Waliraven in 1808 Franklin County, GA, and John Walraven in 1811 Franklin County, GA. Linda ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
Hello Claudia, My wife has informed you that the Roney name is associated with the part of Orange that became Alamance County in 1849. The Benjamin Roney mentioned in the deeds you provided was a son of James Roney. James Roney had been in the area that later became Richmond, VA, ....... settled in 1755 on Back Creek in the area of Orange County that became Alamance County, where it is intersected by Interstate 85. Benjamin Roney was married to Catherine Andrews ca 1774 in Orange County. Back Creek is in what is now the Melville Township of Alamance County before it merges with the Haw River just below the county seat of Graham, NC. This is also very near the area known as the Hawfields where Hawfield's Presbyterian Church was establised. Many of these families were perhaps attracted to the area by the following: "December 5, 1771 The Pennsylvania Gazette To be SOLD in small Tracts, ABOUT 30,000 acres of land, in Orange county, North-Carolina, commonly called the Haw-fields; the quality of these lands is so generally known, that it is needless to say any thing in recommendation of them, only this may be proper to mention, that they produce as good wheat as any in Pennsylvania, and being a strong soil, will bear extraordinary hemp, flax, and tobacco; there is navigation within 70 miles, several reputable merchants having lately established stores at Cross-creek, the want of which formerly obliged the inhabitants of Orange county to carry their flour sometimes 180 miles by land; this inconvenience being obviated by the settlement at Cross-creek abovementioned, and the peace of the country being now happily restored, and settled upon a solid foundation, there is no doubt but this part of it will shortly become as flourishing as any in America. WANTED, a person who is perfectly master of the cultivation and management of hemp, with regard to the water rotting. &c. Any one so qualified, and willing to go to North Carolina to superintend a hemp plantation for such a part of the profit as shall be agreed upon between him and the proprietor of the land and negroes, may apply to Mr. JOHN BIDDLE, at the Sign of the Indian King, in Market-street, Philadelphia. N. B. The proprietor may be met with at the Secretary’s-Office, at Newbern, in North-Carolina, during the winter months, and in the summer season at Hillsborough, within 12 miles of the Haw-fields, and Mr. JOHN WOOD, who lives upon the land, will shew any of the tracts to those that are inclinable to become purchasers." I apologize for what appears to be a history lesson of the area, but hopefully some of this may give you insights into where you might look for the earlier origins of your Walraven family, as most of the families who settled that very specific area of Orange, did hark back to Pennsylvania and adjacent areas of Delaware and Maryland. Very best regards John Fox Winston Salem, NC -----Original Message----- From: Claudia Brumbalow <poohbear2@communicomm.com> To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:19 pm Subject: [NCORANGE] John Walraven I need help on the following and would appreciate any help; I know that John Walraven was in Orange Co. NC by the following but have not been able to find anything else on him in North Carolina. I know that his wife Elizabeth received two draws in the 1827 Land Lottery of Georgia. One of the draws she is listed as (wid R. S.) I have not been able to find if John Walraven served in the Rev War in North Carolina or not. I know that he died Sept. 6, 1814 in Franklin Co., Ga. and he is listed on the 1790 Census in Abbyville, South Carolina. North Carolina tax List 1679- 1790 volume two - John Waldraven, Orange county, 1779 ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 4 P. 21, 28 September 1786, John Walraven Orange, singular, and Elizabeth his wife to John McMurty (no county given), seventy five pounds, 150 acres, on both sides Scrub Cr., bounded on N by land of Deharty Allen & on S by Benjamin Roney, granted Walraven 13 March 1789, begin at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a white oak, N 30 ch. to a white oak, E 50 ch. to a hickory, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: John Walraven, Elizabeth (x) Walraven; witness; Dougharty Allen, James McMurtery; proved August 1788 Term by John McMurtery. (Ed. notes: see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 in name of John Walraven.) ORANGE COUNTY STATE LAND GRANTS. 301,32:449, Benjamin Roney, beginning at a Black Jack thence West fifty Ch to a hickory thence North, thirty Ch to a Black Jack thence East fifty Ch to a White oak thence South thirty Ch to the first Station, surveyed August 7th 1779 by John Harrington DpSur, John Allen & John King SCC, on Scrub Creek a branch of Quaker Creek Bounded on the North by land of John Walmaven, Running South for Complement, Including his Improvement. ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 2 p. 312 March 1780, North Carolina to Benjamin Roney, fifty shillings per hundred acres, 150 acres, on Serub Cr. a Branch of Quaker Cr., bound on N by John Walraven, being at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a hickory, N 30 ch to a black jack, E 50 ch, to a white oak, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: Richard Caswell; witness: none given; no probate records. (Ed. notes see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA (1890 ) - 146 Aug Term 1788 The Execution of a Deed from John Walraven & Wife to John McMurtery was duly proved in open Court by the Oath of James McHurtery one of the subscribing Witnesses thereto & ordered to be Registered. This can be found in the "Reprint of Official Register of Land Lottery of Georgia 1827" Compiled and Published by Miss Martha Lou Houston Southern Historical Press, Inc. c/o The Rev. S. Emmett Lucas, Jr. P.O. Box 738 Easley, South Carolina 29641-0738 page 117 Gwinnett Co. Elizabeth Wallraven, wid. Greens No. 193 Dt. 8 Sec. 1 Page 199 Gwinnett Co. Eliz. Waldraven, w. R. S. Greens No. 225 Dt. 23 Sec 1 The above were sold at her death and are listed in the court records of Franklin Co., Ga. Her name is spelled different on the lottery both is proven as the same person in the Franklin Co., Ga. records. 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I need help on the following and would appreciate any help; I know that John Walraven was in Orange Co. NC by the following but have not been able to find anything else on him in North Carolina. I know that his wife Elizabeth received two draws in the 1827 Land Lottery of Georgia. One of the draws she is listed as (wid R. S.) I have not been able to find if John Walraven served in the Rev War in North Carolina or not. I know that he died Sept. 6, 1814 in Franklin Co., Ga. and he is listed on the 1790 Census in Abbyville, South Carolina. North Carolina tax List 1679- 1790 volume two - John Waldraven, Orange county, 1779 ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 4 P. 21, 28 September 1786, John Walraven Orange, singular, and Elizabeth his wife to John McMurty (no county given), seventy five pounds, 150 acres, on both sides Scrub Cr., bounded on N by land of Deharty Allen & on S by Benjamin Roney, granted Walraven 13 March 1789, begin at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a white oak, N 30 ch. to a white oak, E 50 ch. to a hickory, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: John Walraven, Elizabeth (x) Walraven; witness; Dougharty Allen, James McMurtery; proved August 1788 Term by John McMurtery. (Ed. notes: see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 in name of John Walraven.) ORANGE COUNTY STATE LAND GRANTS. 301,32:449, Benjamin Roney, beginning at a Black Jack thence West fifty Ch to a hickory thence North, thirty Ch to a Black Jack thence East fifty Ch to a White oak thence South thirty Ch to the first Station, surveyed August 7th 1779 by John Harrington DpSur, John Allen & John King SCC, on Scrub Creek a branch of Quaker Creek Bounded on the North by land of John Walmaven, Running South for Complement, Including his Improvement. ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOK 2 p. 312 March 1780, North Carolina to Benjamin Roney, fifty shillings per hundred acres, 150 acres, on Serub Cr. a Branch of Quaker Cr., bound on N by John Walraven, being at a black jack, W 50 ch. to a hickory, N 30 ch to a black jack, E 50 ch, to a white oak, S 30 ch. to first station; signed: Richard Caswell; witness: none given; no probate records. (Ed. notes see also N. C. Paten Book 32:438 ORANGE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA (1890 ) - 146 Aug Term 1788 The Execution of a Deed from John Walraven & Wife to John McMurtery was duly proved in open Court by the Oath of James McHurtery one of the subscribing Witnesses thereto & ordered to be Registered. This can be found in the "Reprint of Official Register of Land Lottery of Georgia 1827" Compiled and Published by Miss Martha Lou Houston Southern Historical Press, Inc. c/o The Rev. S. Emmett Lucas, Jr. P.O. Box 738 Easley, South Carolina 29641-0738 page 117 Gwinnett Co. Elizabeth Wallraven, wid. Greens No. 193 Dt. 8 Sec. 1 Page 199 Gwinnett Co. Eliz. Waldraven, w. R. S. Greens No. 225 Dt. 23 Sec 1 The above were sold at her death and are listed in the court records of Franklin Co., Ga. Her name is spelled different on the lottery both is proven as the same person in the Franklin Co., Ga. records. Claudia
I have cates there too then some went to Ten. Jalena ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Re; Cates in Orange Co. >I also am researching Cates close to that area. > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> > To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com>; <katerose1@comcast.net> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Re; Cates in Orange Co. > > >> Kathleen, >> >> I have in my database a Soloman Cates who married Elizabeth Hawkins in >> 1808 in Person County, NC. I have no knowledge of where the continued >> their lives after their marriage. The Hawkins family intermarried with >> some other of my family lines, is why I have included their names and >> marriage. >> >> Best regards, >> >> John Fox >> Winston Salem, NC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kathleen Rose <katerose1@comcast.net> >> To: NCORANGE@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:57 am >> Subject: [NCORANGE] Re; Cates in Orange Co. >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I am new to the list and have a couple of questions >> >> >> >> What is the history behind the Cate/Cates family in Orange Co.? There >> seem >> to be a very large number of "heads of households" by this name in the >> 1790 >> and 1800 census. Does anyone know the reason for this. >> >> >> >> I am searching for a Samuel Cates b. @1805 in Tenn. But gives >> birthplace of >> parents on later census' as North Carolina. Tenn. is along the >> migration >> route from NC so that would be a reasonable place for his parents to >> come >> from in this time period. I was just surprised at the numbers in this >> particular county. >> >> >> >> Samuel married Mahala Horn said to be sister of Riley Horn both born >> Wales. >> This is hearsay but it is all we have at the moment. None of her >> children >> ever give Wales as her birthplace in later census', they just list Tenn. >> >> >> >> Anyway some historical info on the great number of Cate/Cates in this >> county >> would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Kathleen >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - >> http://webmail.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I also am researching Cates close to that area. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com>; <katerose1@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Re; Cates in Orange Co. > Kathleen, > > I have in my database a Soloman Cates who married Elizabeth Hawkins in > 1808 in Person County, NC. I have no knowledge of where the continued > their lives after their marriage. The Hawkins family intermarried with > some other of my family lines, is why I have included their names and > marriage. > > Best regards, > > John Fox > Winston Salem, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathleen Rose <katerose1@comcast.net> > To: NCORANGE@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:57 am > Subject: [NCORANGE] Re; Cates in Orange Co. > > Hi, > > > > I am new to the list and have a couple of questions > > > > What is the history behind the Cate/Cates family in Orange Co.? There > seem > to be a very large number of "heads of households" by this name in the > 1790 > and 1800 census. Does anyone know the reason for this. > > > > I am searching for a Samuel Cates b. @1805 in Tenn. But gives > birthplace of > parents on later census' as North Carolina. Tenn. is along the > migration > route from NC so that would be a reasonable place for his parents to > come > from in this time period. I was just surprised at the numbers in this > particular county. > > > > Samuel married Mahala Horn said to be sister of Riley Horn both born > Wales. > This is hearsay but it is all we have at the moment. None of her > children > ever give Wales as her birthplace in later census', they just list Tenn. > > > > Anyway some historical info on the great number of Cate/Cates in this > county > would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Kathleen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Kathleen, I have in my database a Soloman Cates who married Elizabeth Hawkins in 1808 in Person County, NC. I have no knowledge of where the continued their lives after their marriage. The Hawkins family intermarried with some other of my family lines, is why I have included their names and marriage. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem, NC -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Rose <katerose1@comcast.net> To: NCORANGE@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:57 am Subject: [NCORANGE] Re; Cates in Orange Co. Hi, I am new to the list and have a couple of questions What is the history behind the Cate/Cates family in Orange Co.? There seem to be a very large number of "heads of households" by this name in the 1790 and 1800 census. Does anyone know the reason for this. I am searching for a Samuel Cates b. @1805 in Tenn. But gives birthplace of parents on later census' as North Carolina. Tenn. is along the migration route from NC so that would be a reasonable place for his parents to come from in this time period. I was just surprised at the numbers in this particular county. Samuel married Mahala Horn said to be sister of Riley Horn both born Wales. This is hearsay but it is all we have at the moment. None of her children ever give Wales as her birthplace in later census', they just list Tenn. Anyway some historical info on the great number of Cate/Cates in this county would be appreciated. Thanks Kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
Hi, I am new to the list and have a couple of questions What is the history behind the Cate/Cates family in Orange Co.? There seem to be a very large number of "heads of households" by this name in the 1790 and 1800 census. Does anyone know the reason for this. I am searching for a Samuel Cates b. @1805 in Tenn. But gives birthplace of parents on later census' as North Carolina. Tenn. is along the migration route from NC so that would be a reasonable place for his parents to come from in this time period. I was just surprised at the numbers in this particular county. Samuel married Mahala Horn said to be sister of Riley Horn both born Wales. This is hearsay but it is all we have at the moment. None of her children ever give Wales as her birthplace in later census', they just list Tenn. Anyway some historical info on the great number of Cate/Cates in this county would be appreciated. Thanks Kathleen
>If anyone is familiar with finding records at the archives and what they >charge for search and copies or if I have to employ a non-archives >researcher to first find the records then make copies on account of budget >cuts in deficit tax years, please let me know. Yes, I'm sure I can send a >query to the archives itself, but practical experience from someone else is >always useful. The price schedule and ordering information are on the archives web site at http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/mail.htm I've had no experience with mail orders, and don't know how long it takes, but I've found the staff on site to be very helpful. The loose estates records are filed by county, and within a county, by surname. They are easy and quick to search. Searching deeds is considerably more time-consuming, in my experience. I regret that I can't offer to look up the records for you. I rarely have a chance to visit the archives myself these days, and I have a very long list of my own work to do. -- Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com Personal genealogy webpage: http://www.duke.edu/web/chlamy Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://www.fmoran.com/ HOLDER DNA project: http://www.mindspring.com/~holderdna/
Hey ladies, back off. I just went through this on another list. jerrym ----- Original Message ----- From: <rlmlfm@aol.com> To: <ncorange@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Andrew Collins > > Dear Cecilia: > > I am sorry?that you felt the need to attack me personally when I was only > offering my help?with your genealogical research and a few alternative > suggestions that might be worth investigating. > > I disagree with?what you said, "Most males of the day if they knew they > were about to die and could write, wrote a will, regardless of whether the > wife was alive or not.? I have MANY > will records where the wife was still alive.", in fact, only a small > percentage of men left a will no matter whether they were old or young. > > By the way, I am very thorough in all areas of my genealogy research and > have been asked by a professional genealogist to submit some of my work to > be published in a genealogical journal. > > > Good luck with you research. > > Regards, > > Linda > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Celia Becker <celia.lfsbecker@sbcglobal.net> > To: ncorange@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 1:51 am > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Andrew Collins > > > > > By 1820, the sons were all out of the house--along with their half > brothers. > I doubt if Isabella would have wanted her husband's misdeeds around. I > suspect from various records in which Bradley Collins was regularly > witnessing marriages and other events for his second wife's family, that > Bradley and his half brothers were living with the Rays in 1820 but by > 1825 > they were all in Kentucky. > > Most males of the day if they knew they were about to die and could write, > wrote a will, regardless of whether the wife was alive or not. I have > MANY > will records where the wife was still alive. > > Prior to recent years, the estate did NOT automatically pass to the wife > when a man died. The law usually required an intestate estate to be > divided > between wife and children with most of the real estate and personal > property > sold and the wife retaining a life time "use" of the house--if she got > that > much. Prior to the Revolution, without a will it all went to the oldest > son. With a will, the oldest son still got the largest share, unless his > father made a substantial prior to death settlement, such as at marriage. > In fact as recently as 30 years ago, a woman could not get credit in her > own > name, and only about 70-80 years ago, if a woman worked her pay was handed > to her husband, or her oldest son, or other close male relative. Women > were > not allowed to own property in their own name if she was married or had a > father still living or a son. > > Heck we didn't even get the vote until the end of World War I!--in the > 20th > century! > > I take it you're not real familiar with the general social and legal > history > of the U.S.. Do you get the history channel or public television where > you > are? I realize there are still areas of the U.S. that get neither and > plenty of people even in areas that do get these channels through cable > television or satellite television that for one reason or another don't > use > either and thus don't get them. It can be expensive for the one and God > help you if you live in a canyon, deep valley or woods for the other. I > live in a city, but have very tall eucalyptus trees in the direction I'd > need to tilt a dish so I ended up with cable if I wanted something other > than the usual pretty stupid "major network" television. I still spend > more > time reading, either books or stuff on-line rather than watching even > educational television--when I have significant free time. > > Anyhow,my late mother, Wilma Maie Wallace-Fabos, organized and led the > first > strike in the nation for "comparable worth" in the city of San Jose > against > the City of San Jose in July, 1981. Prior to 1976, discrimination of all > kinds was legal against women and you couldn't get credit in your own > name. > I still remember the first time I had my own checking account (savings you > could have) and my own credit card. Her mother was one of of the first > certified building maintenance "engineers" and then could use her > certificate or hold that kind of job because (a) she "deceived" the > college > by mail program by using initials when she studied along side her father > and > then secretly took the test under her name with initials. Her parents > both > threatened to disown her if she ever tried to use the certificate. Her > father eventually did for other reasons, mostly brought on by Jessie's > other > behaviors, which alienated nearly everyone in her life at the time. When > she first did work, the checks were made out by her employer to her > husband. > Even after her divorce, for a time they were made out to her oldest son, > and > then her second husband--and this was in Los Angeles in the 1930's! > > Sincerely, > > Cecilia > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rlmlfm@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:35 PM > To: NCORANGE@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Andrew Collins > > > > Cecilia, > > It seems unlikely?that your ancestor?Andrew Collins had a will since his > wife Isabella Collins was still living in Orange County, NC after Andrew's > death about 1820 as you stated.? If he did have a will, I suspect that it > would be found?in Orange County.? You might try seeing if you can find his > estate records,?the administrator's bond (who the administrator of his > estate was), the inventory of his estate, and the sale and/or settlement > of > his estate documents.? > > Isabella Collins is listed on the 1820 Orange County census with only > herself, age 45 & up, and two white females, one age 10-16 years, and one > age 16-26 years.? There were no males of any race and there were no slaves > listed as living with Isabella. > > Linda > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming > message. 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Dear Elizabeth; Thank you for the information. I know what it's like. I just got a call from about a 6th and 7th cousin--several ways--who is also a friend for some help just after I realized it had been 43 years of research, analysis and writing thus far and I STILL haven't finished tracing all my late mother's lines back to the point of emigration--much less earlier than that. I have fears of becoming another Lyman Draper leaving my nieces and nephews with an incredible mess of files, books, etc. and not nearly enough well organized. It didn't help that my computer crashed a few weeks ago, with all of what is organized and in annotated trees, etc. and I'm still trying to find a way to extract the disk from the hard drive--not the drive from the computer--the disk from the drive itself--carefully and safely, put it into another drive chassis by the same manufacturer and see if I can boot it up and extract the data and put it on the new machine--and new back-up. Another cousin and friend who is very tech savvy offered to help do this, but then got sent to Texas to solve one of his company's major network "oops" for several weeks. What a mess! My genealogy business files are all on that darned drive, also--and it was less than two years old when it crashed and bought at Fry's a major dealer out here! You know, if cars just catastrophically quit on freeways as often as computers "catastrophically crash" we'd all be still driving horse and buggies. Ah, well, back to other difficult problems: finding estate administration records and deeds of property for families without wills or with minimal wills, and parents for still "mystery" people in other lines in other areas. Cecilia -----Original Message----- From: ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncorange-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Harris Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:26 PM To: ncorange@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCORANGE] Andrew Collins >If anyone is familiar with finding records at the archives and what >they charge for search and copies or if I have to employ a non-archives >researcher to first find the records then make copies on account of >budget cuts in deficit tax years, please let me know. Yes, I'm sure I >can send a query to the archives itself, but practical experience from >someone else is always useful. The price schedule and ordering information are on the archives web site at http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/mail.htm I've had no experience with mail orders, and don't know how long it takes, but I've found the staff on site to be very helpful. The loose estates records are filed by county, and within a county, by surname. They are easy and quick to search. Searching deeds is considerably more time-consuming, in my experience. I regret that I can't offer to look up the records for you. I rarely have a chance to visit the archives myself these days, and I have a very long list of my own work to do. -- Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com Personal genealogy webpage: http://www.duke.edu/web/chlamy Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://www.fmoran.com/ HOLDER DNA project: http://www.mindspring.com/~holderdna/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1291 - Release Date: 2/21/2008 11:05 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1291 - Release Date: 2/21/2008 11:05 AM