The cabin of the samll farmer was not sufficiently large to contrain much furniture, nor were there servants to care for it, so the family possessed only a few useful pieces. A chest, a table, a few beds and a stool or two completed the furnishings. Working with his nearest neighbor who owen an adz or crosscut saw, the pioneer felled a walnut or poplar tree and laboriously sawed it into planks. Put together with wooden pegs or notched to fit at the corners, in the place of scarce nails, these planks made a crude but serviceable piece of furniture. As soon as the region became more settled, some industrious person usually built a dam and set up a saw mill driven by water power. The inside of these homes, though not well-equipped was fairly comfortable. the fire place was about four or five foot wide and six feet high. When there were two rooms, one was used for a kitchen and served the double purpose of being a sitting room as well. The floor was sanded and from the rafters overhead hung strings of red peppers, ears of corn and bags of feathers. It was here the household industries were carried on - - churning, spinning, weaving, candle-making, and soap-making. Plates, bowls and spoons were usually made of pewter, except in some instances when they were carved from wood. The travelling pewter oulder with his spoon and dish moulds, did his work in the kitchen, living with the family until his job was accomplished and then going on to the next family desirous of his services. It was not until more room were added to the house that the kitchen became a separate building. An excellent description of these days can be found in records of the Moravians who settled in a colony called Bethabara, near the present city of Winston-Salem. In the year 1759, a moravian woman wrote: "From the beginning our craftsmen had frunished the most necessary articles, shoes, flour, pottery, buckskin breeches, and the like, but such things as salt, glass for window panes, sugar, coffee and spices must be brought from the outside. Apart from occasional shipments from Bethlehem (the Moravian colony in Pennsylvania) we been dependent on what could be secured from Springhill, a storehouse which had been built on Cape Fear River, (later to become Fayetteville), to which flat-bottomed boats brought some supplies from the harbor at Brunswick. To springhill our wagons took flour, and brought back salt and whatever else could be found there . . .Many deer-skins were . . .brought to Bethabara to be bartered for good at our store . . .It was decided to send deerskins to Charleston, to be exchanged for molasses, wine, hardware, glass . . ." Springhill, Charleston, and Petersburg also became the trading places for those who settled in Alamance County. Ref: Centennial History of Alamance County, by Whitaker ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

Hi Folks, I would like to thank you all for your kind words. And I do agree that "family history" is more than collecting dates/places of birth/death etc.. and in that way I guess, I'm not a genealogist - but a "family historian". I too was a 'poor history' student. Memorizing all those dull dates and battles in school wasn't my cup of tea. Do you notice that all the history books were written about famous folks? <g> But, the backbone of this country was build by ordinary people doing extraordinary acts. And the fact that the blood of those ancestors runs in my veins is, as the younger generation say. "totally awesome". When I read the pension/military papers on my 3rd g-grandfather and find a description of him "6'1" eyes amber, hair red " and then look at my son and see the same traits it really, to borrow another phrase, "blows me away!" I suspect that if "family history" was taught in school, youngsters would take more pride in themselves and appreciate their Country more. The long strings of DNA runs from the misty past to immigrant/emmigrant ancestors, to revolutionary ancestors, to railroad builders and farmers, to Civil War ancestors to I WW, II WW, Korea, Viet Nam, Desert Storm. . .All the generations of my "mothers" and "fathers" make me what I am. To paraphrase President John F. Kennedy: If we don't know where we came from - how can we know where we're going. So, if the Good Lord's willin' and the creek don't rise, I'll keep "discovering who I am" through the discovery of my ancestors. Cheers, Carol ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Orange County Armstrong Ancestors In June, 1728, my ancestor James Armstrong (b. 1701) left Ireland for the New World. He settled first in Pennsylvania where he married Mary (Mollie) Bird of Virginia, and had four children. In 1750, James moved his wife and their three surviving children to Orange County, NC where he purchased some 600 acres along the Enos River near Hillsborough. Their two younger daughters were born in Orange County. Mary and James Armstrong had six children: William, b. 1737 married Jane Lapsley of Virginia; Sarah, b. 1740 married George Allen; James, b. 1745 apparently died quite young; Mary, b. 1749, married Alexander Mebane, Jr, son of Alexander Mebane and Mary Tinnin; Susannah, b. 1754 married a Lloyd of Orange County; and Elizabeth, b. 1758 married James Lapsley of Virginia. I am descended from William and Jane Lapsley Armstrong, and I would love to hear from any other descendants. William purchased land adjacent to that of his Father James. William and Jane Lapsley Armstrong had four children; she died shortly after the birth or their youngest child. After his wife's death, William became interested in the growing dissatisfaction with British rule, and he volunteed for service in the Continental Army, First North Carolina Regiment in 1776. He later became a Captain and served until 1783. William and Jane Lapsley Armstrong had four children: Thomas Armstrong, b. 1767, m. (1) Fanny Anderson, (2) Elizabeth Anderson. Thomas and his family remained in NC. James Armstrong, b. 1768, married (1) Mary (Polly) Allen, and (2) Mary Mebane. Shortly after his first marriage, he moved to Williamson County, Tennessee, near historic Franklin, TN. Mary Armstrong, b. 1771, married Alexander Tinnin, and they moved to Sumner County, TN; and, William Laspley Armstrong, b. 1773 married Mary Cavitt, daughter of Richard Cavitt, and they moved to Robertson County, TN before 1820. I have at least one generation of all of William and Jane L. Armstrong's children and eight-nine generations of the descendants of William Lapsley Armstrong that I will be happy to share. I would especially like to hear from any of James Armstrong's descendants. Helen Gant Donald Columbus, GA hgdonald@leo.infi.net Researching Other NC/Orange/Guilford/Alamance County Ancestors: GANT/GANTT, PHILLIPS, RIPPY/RIPPEY, RONEY, and TROLLINGER. ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Carol - You are posting such interesting, informative articles. For those of us who have never visited the land of our ancestors, it's a real treat. I, for one, plan to see what I can find in our local library to contibute. I recently discovered that it has several shelves of books on North Carolina genealogy. Thanks so much, Helen Gant Donald Columbus, GA Carol A. Johnson wrote: > > Orange County (NC) Deed Book 14 > > P. 409. 12 April 1813, William PANNILL of Person to Samuel THOMPSON of > Orange, three hundred dollars, negroe woman Cate 27 ears old & child > January 18 or 20 months old, sold by Josiah TURNER shff. as property of > Jesse SNIPES to satisfy an execution in favor of William PARNILL, Signed > Wm. PANNILL Wit: J. TURNER proved may Term 1813 by Josiah TURNER. > > P. 410, 14 Mar 1812, William RAINEY to grandson Abel RAINEY, love and > affection, negroe slave Haney, aged about 10 years, signed: Wm RAINEY, Wit: > A. D. MURPHEY & Michl. HOLT, proved May Term 1813 by Michael HOLT. > > P. 410 19 Mar 1813, Josiah TURNER of Hillsborough to Fisher CLENDENEN (my > ancestor) of Orange, four hundred forty eight dollars, Negroe woman Edy & > boy Jack son of Edy, signed: J. TURNER, Wit: > W. WHITTED, acknowledged May Term 1813, delvd. F.C. > > P. 411, 14 Mar 1810, Benjamin RAINEY of Orange to conrod TIECKELL of same > one hundred dollars, 100 acres on S side of Haw R., on waters of TRAVISES > Cr. begin at a post oak a cor. of Phillip HUFFMAN's land, s37 ch. to a post > oak on Daniel WHITSETT's line, N45W 4ch. to a post oak, W 31 ch. to a post > oak, N36 ch. to a red oak, E to beginning. Signed: Benjamin RAINEY, Wit: > Phillip HUFFMAN & Anthony CABLE, proved May Term 1813 by Anthony CABLE. > > P. 412, 1 Sep 1807, Peter TRIEKELL Senr. Or Orange to Phillip HUFFHINE & > Henry TIECKELL (no residence given), two hundred dollars, 150 acres, on > waters of TRAVISES cr. begin at a gum on a prong of TRAVISES cr. E 15 ch. > down creek to an ash, N40E 11 1/2 ch. > to a post oak, S60E 20 ch. to a post oak, S31 ch. to a post oak, W 8 1/2 > ch. to a hicory, S4 ch. to a hicory, w 32 1/2 ch. to a black jack, N34 1/2 > ch. to beginning, signed Peter TIECKELL Senr., Wit: Benja. RAINEY, Geo. > SHATEN, Anthoney COBLE, & Conrad TURKELL, proved May Term 1813 by Anthoney > COBLE & Conrod TURKELL > > P 414, 14 Mar 1812, William RAINEY to grandchildren nance RAINEY, John > RAINEY, Sally RAINEY, & Millie RAINEY orphan children of son Benjamin > RAINEY (no residence given for any party), love and affection, negroe > slaves Charity aged 3 years, Allen aged 18 months, & Henry aged 1 month, > all children of Winney, negroes to be held as joint tenants until nancy the > eldest reaches age 21 or marries, her share to be alloted to her and > residue held as ___________. > > Copied from deed book 14 (Orange Co.NC) Wisconsin State Historical Society, > Madison,WI > > Awwwww, come on you guys! T'aint no fun to dance alone. . . > > . . . and, may all you ancestors have headstones. > > Cheers, C > > ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== > Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list > Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange > GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

From BRICK CHURCH RECORDS; Translated from the original German by Rev. D. I. Offman Typed from a carbon copy of Rev. D. I. Offman's translation by Calvin Hinshaw, and proof read by said Hinshaw and David Holt. 1959 Guilford County was taken from Orange and Rowan Counties when it was established in 1771, the eastern approximately two-fifths in which the Brick Church is located having come from Orange and the westen approximately three-fifths having come from Rowan ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

Orange County (NC) Deed Book 14 P. 409. 12 April 1813, William PANNILL of Person to Samuel THOMPSON of Orange, three hundred dollars, negroe woman Cate 27 ears old & child January 18 or 20 months old, sold by Josiah TURNER shff. as property of Jesse SNIPES to satisfy an execution in favor of William PARNILL, Signed Wm. PANNILL Wit: J. TURNER proved may Term 1813 by Josiah TURNER. P. 410, 14 Mar 1812, William RAINEY to grandson Abel RAINEY, love and affection, negroe slave Haney, aged about 10 years, signed: Wm RAINEY, Wit: A. D. MURPHEY & Michl. HOLT, proved May Term 1813 by Michael HOLT. P. 410 19 Mar 1813, Josiah TURNER of Hillsborough to Fisher CLENDENEN (my ancestor) of Orange, four hundred forty eight dollars, Negroe woman Edy & boy Jack son of Edy, signed: J. TURNER, Wit: W. WHITTED, acknowledged May Term 1813, delvd. F.C. P. 411, 14 Mar 1810, Benjamin RAINEY of Orange to conrod TIECKELL of same one hundred dollars, 100 acres on S side of Haw R., on waters of TRAVISES Cr. begin at a post oak a cor. of Phillip HUFFMAN's land, s37 ch. to a post oak on Daniel WHITSETT's line, N45W 4ch. to a post oak, W 31 ch. to a post oak, N36 ch. to a red oak, E to beginning. Signed: Benjamin RAINEY, Wit: Phillip HUFFMAN & Anthony CABLE, proved May Term 1813 by Anthony CABLE. P. 412, 1 Sep 1807, Peter TRIEKELL Senr. Or Orange to Phillip HUFFHINE & Henry TIECKELL (no residence given), two hundred dollars, 150 acres, on waters of TRAVISES cr. begin at a gum on a prong of TRAVISES cr. E 15 ch. down creek to an ash, N40E 11 1/2 ch. to a post oak, S60E 20 ch. to a post oak, S31 ch. to a post oak, W 8 1/2 ch. to a hicory, S4 ch. to a hicory, w 32 1/2 ch. to a black jack, N34 1/2 ch. to beginning, signed Peter TIECKELL Senr., Wit: Benja. RAINEY, Geo. SHATEN, Anthoney COBLE, & Conrad TURKELL, proved May Term 1813 by Anthoney COBLE & Conrod TURKELL P 414, 14 Mar 1812, William RAINEY to grandchildren nance RAINEY, John RAINEY, Sally RAINEY, & Millie RAINEY orphan children of son Benjamin RAINEY (no residence given for any party), love and affection, negroe slaves Charity aged 3 years, Allen aged 18 months, & Henry aged 1 month, all children of Winney, negroes to be held as joint tenants until nancy the eldest reaches age 21 or marries, her share to be alloted to her and residue held as ___________. Copied from deed book 14 (Orange Co.NC) Wisconsin State Historical Society, Madison,WI Awwwww, come on you guys! T'aint no fun to dance alone. . . . . . and, may all you ancestors have headstones. Cheers, C ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

The Quaker believers were extremely strict, for their social customs were dictated by their religious beliefs. Member of the congregation were disowned for marrying outside the meeting, for using liquor to excess and for bad language, for lying and cheating in business, and for uttering criticism against the meeting. The records of 1754 show that one member of the Cane Creek Meeting was disowned for accepting a military commission. (note: I found several that were disowned for "taking up arms") The Quakers dressed plainly and condemned excessive eating, drinking and smoking. They frequently passed laws against the "vain and vicious proseedings as Frollicking Fiddling and Dancing," and the wearing of lapel coats, bell crowned hats, ruffles and ribbons. during the earlier years, some of the Friends held many offices of trust and honor in the Carolina's, but the Meetings later opposed office-holding. Any Friend who assumed an office must take an oath and would frequently have to administer the oath to others, and both ractices were condemned by the Quaker teachings. Such customs have been greatly modified in later years. While some Quakers owned slaves, the Society of Friends stood against the practice and sought to educate and to eventually emancipate all of those slaves owned by its members. Because of the slavery issue and hostile milita laws which had been directed against them, scores of Quaker families left North Carolina about 1830 and migrated to the free states in the Middle West (note: Many, like my ancestors, went to Orange Co. IN). Gradually, the younger genearation rising in the Meetings changed many of the conservative customs, and the Friends began to take their rightful place in the civil life of the communities they had helped to found. Many of the founders of the Cane Creek Meeting, including the patriarch of Snow Camp, Simon DIXON, are buried in the old church cemetery. A round mill stone, said to have been brought by Mr. DIXON from his home in Pennsylvania, marks his grave. The original meeting house was destroyed by fire in 1879, and several houses of worship have stood on the site since that time. A modern brick church was built just a few feet from the original location after the fire again destroyed the building in 1942. Ref: Centennial History of Alamance County May all of your ancestors live in the middle of a county Cheers, Carol ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

The accepted mode of travel of the 1820's was wagon train. A group of family and friends would get together, picking up others on the way. As the train pulled out a list was made of all on the train in order to aid friends and relatives in tracing them, in necessary. The rules were as follows: 1. Allow 5 days for each one hundred miles. Bad days, what you can make, or stay in camp if agreed on by all. Real good days, and ground makes it easy pulling 25 to 30 miles per day, if camp site comes right. 2. Take pleny of guns and ammunition. 3. Recommended --shave your head--Indians have no interest in bald heads. 4. Do not drink whiskey or alcohol in freezing weather, or you are liable to freeze to death. 5. Do not fire rifles, only when absolutely necessary. 6. Do not stay up late -- get your sleep. Guards are on duty all night. 7. Do not smoke strong pipes and cigars in close places where women and children are. 8. Keep you politics and preaching to yourself. Let the preacher do the preaching. 9. In case of a renaway of teams to wagons, get down and try to ride it out. If you jump, you are liable to get killed, or hurt badly. The horse men will pick the tearm up, maybe not too far off. 10. All people -- young, married, or not, stay inside the circle of wagons in Indian country, or you are liable to lose your scalps. 11. The wagon master will try to pick spots so men and women and children can bathe, clean up, and wash clothes, when possible. 12. Be courteous and help others. 13. Do not be noisy, even with your musical instruments; only when it is safe. 14. When can, we will have recreation and dances. 15. Do your part by all means. Church services will be held when it is considered safe from Indians, and other hazardous conditions. The cost of this first class passage was about $100. per family. Cheers, Carol ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

From a Johnson Co.IL newpaper the "Vienna Times" 6 Dec 1874 "The bloomer dress is a pair of trousers, very baggy at the knee, abnormally full about the pistol pockets and considerably loose where you strike a match. The article is cut decolette at the south end and the bottom is tied around the ankles or knees to keep out the mice. You can't pull it on over your head as you do your corset but you sit on the floor and pull it on as you do your stockings, one foot in each compartment. You can easily tell which is the right side to put in front by the button on the neck-band." Cheers, Carol ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Born in Maryland, HUSBAND became a Quaker in his youth. He visited North Carolina several times in his early manhood and finally came here to settle in 1762. He married mary PUGH, the daughter of his neighbor, and joined the Cane Creek Friends Meeting. Two years later his fellow Quakers disowned him for " making remarks on the actions and transactions of this meeting and publicly advertising the same." No longer able to express his intrinsic opinions in the church, HUSBAND took up the fight against political vitiation. he began writing pamphlets and petitions against the evils of local and colonial government, and he found much material for complaint. in the year 1766, Governor TRYON, escorted by 100 troops and servants, led a 17-day dxpedition into western North Carolina to run a boundary between the colony and the Cherokee nation. The trip cost taxpayers 15,000 pounds sterling--$75,000 . In November of the same year the Gereral Assembly ratified a proposal to tax the colonists 20,000 pounds to build a new palace for the Governor at New Bern. Such government exxtended into Orange County also. The county clerk charged 15 pounds - $75. - for a marriage license. Tax collectors frequently took a farmer's horse from the plow to satisfy exorbitant taxes. On one occasion, the Orange County sheriff, failing to find a farmer at home, reportedly ripped the homespun dress from the farm wife's back and sold it to the highest bidder. Meanwhile, CHILDS and CORBIN, Lord GRANVILLE's agents, continued to swindle property owners by forcing them to purchase a second deed to their lands. Governor TRYON, issued two proclamations on June 25, 1766 - one anouncing the repeal of the infamous Stanp Act by Parliament, and the other requiring that county officers adhear strictly to the established rates in collecting taxes and fees. In Orange County the latter proclamation was ignored, and office holders continued their extortion. On October 10, 1766, a number of men entered a session of Inferior Court at Hillsborough and requested the clerk to read a petition written by Herman HUSBAND. The petition called for a meeting of county officials and citizens "judiciously to inquire whether the free men of this county labor under any power of abuse. . . and in particular to examine into the public tax and inform themselves of every particular thereof, by what laws and for what use it is laid." On the appointed day the hopeful planters left their unharvested crops and rode to "MADDOCK's" mill (two or three miles west of Hillsborough, "a suitable place where there is no liquor." After waiting several hours they sent a millboy into Hillsborough to see why no officials had appeared, and late in the afternoon a lone horseman arrived at the mill. Colonel Edmund FANNING and Thomas LLOYD, the Orange County deelegates to the General Assembly, had intended to come, said the rider - but Colonel FANNING noticed the word "judiciously" in HUSBANDS's petition. Since the men gathered at MADDOCK's Mill had no judicial authority, it seemed obvious that they were insurrectionist, and the delegates refused to meet with them. during the following spring further action developed. the above taken from "Centennial History of Alamance County" ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

From the History of Alamance by Stockard p. 45 North Carolina Hillsborough District March Term, 1771 " ' The persons who style themselves Regulators and under the conduct of Harman HUSBANDS, Jas. HUNTER, Rednap HOWELL, Wm. BUTLER, Samuel DEVINNEY and others broke up the court at September Term, still continuing their riotuous meetings and severely threating the Judges, lawyer and other officers of the court prevented any of the judges or lawyers attending. Therefore the court adjourned till SeptemberTerm' Governor TRYON his late excellency had fled before the next term, September 1771." "But the Regulators seized the books and what follows is the Court Proceedings of the Regulators- - 1770 September" (wonder if this should be 1771?) Peter NOAY vs. E. FANNING "FANNING must pay" John CHILDS vs. Richard SIMPSON "You keep that to yourselves to rogue everybody" William BROWN vs. John BROWN "A shame * * * " Isaiah HOGAN vs. Harmon HUSBANDS "HOGAN pays and be dammed." Eziekiel BRUMFIELD vs. James FERRELL Slander "Nonsense, let them agree for FERRELL has gone hellwards." Michael WILSON vs. David HARRIS "All HARRIS's are rogues." John EDWARDS vs. Phillip EDWARDS "Damed shame" Thos. FRAMMEL vs. Wm. DUMMEGAN "DUMMEGAN pays" Thomas RICHARDS vs. Robinson YORK "Plaintiff pays all cost and gets his body scourged for Blaspheming" Abner NASH vs. Joh CROOKER "NASH gets nothing" Valentine BRUSWELL vs. Dunun MCNEAL, Administrator of Hector MCNEAL. "File it and be darned." Silas BROWN vs. William LEWIS "The man was sick and it tis darned roguery." Solomon PERNIL vs. John FERRIL Executed on two negroes. "Negroes not worth a damn, cost exceeds the whole." page 49 "The following lines, a specimen of Rednap HOWELL's verse, show the public sentiment in regard to FANNING and FROHOCK, the Clerk of Court of Rowan:" "Says FROHOCK to FANNING, to tell the plain truth, When I came to this country I was but a youth, My father sent for me; I wan't worth a cross, And then my frist duty was to steal a horse. I quickly got credit and then ran away And haven't paid for him to this very day" "Says FANNING to FROHOCK, 'tis folly to lie; I rode an old mare that was blind of an eyes. Five shillings in money I had in my purse; My coat was patched, but not much the worse. But now we've got rich and its very well known, That we'll do very well if they'll let us alone." ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

This is Quip is from "From Trial to Promised Triumph: A Short History of Springwood Presbyterian Church from the Painful, Often Deadly, Ideological Wars of Reconstruction to the Verge of the Twenty-First Century" by Dr. Rollin M. Steel, Jr. Minister at Springwood Presbyerian Church 1983-1995 Pg. 1 The Civil War split Brick German Reformed Church in 1860. All the current issues of slavery, agricultural policy, states rights, the Fugitive SLave Law and the 1860 presidential election were highly charged emotional issues throughout the nation but partticularly in the South, Abraham Lincoln defeated the split Deomocratic Party, Kentucky canidate John C. Breckinridge, not only split the party, but seemed in the minds of some to advocate secession. Violence broke out in many remote areas. For ten years prior to the war there had been an uneasy peace over the issue of slavery and where it would legally be allowed to continue. Fugitive Slave Laws were unpopular in the north where many chose to vote on slavery by completely ignoring the property rights of the southern farmer n favor of what they felt was a higher law. The larger non-Society of Friends farms were found in the eastern section of Guilford County and the western part of Alamance County. If the census information accurately reflects any trend, the greatest numnber of slaves were employed by the German farmers in the Brick Church section in 1840. A year later the Reverend George William Welker became the pastor of Brick church. Originally from central Pennsylvania, George William Welder was convictionally against slavery and the secession of the states. At the same time, his records show brilliance both as a speaker andd writer. The German Reformed Church in 1860 supported the convictional stand of antislavery ministers. ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

Who was it that said "History is an account of something which never happened, written by someone who wasn't there."? From the "Centennial History of Alamance County 1849-1949 by Whitaker: "In Alamance the Reformed and Lutheran sects settled along Alamance and Stinking Quarters Creek; the Friends or Quakers settled in the south along Cane Creek, and the Presbyterians chose settlements in the present vicinity of Hawfields." "For a number of years there was little contact between these colonies, other than occasional meetings at the Hillsboro courts or on the market roads to Petersburg and Fayetteville. Their churches and schools and their ways of life were peculiar to their individual settlements." "Because they spoke a language foreign to their neighbors, it was a long time before the "Pennsylvania Dutch" assumed any part in the government of their county and state, yet they proved themselves industrious, hard-working, and devout." I believe that a common language is necessary for the binding together of a community. . . lack of communication breeds suspicion and sometimes even anger. Note, parents and teens - citizens and politicians <g>. My Husbands glib quip about the German's and Scotch-Irish may well have some validity. This from a personal view. My father, a German Lutheran was a very reserved man. He was hard working and attended Lutheran services every Sunday, and expected his children to do the same. Mom, on the other hand with her "fey" Scotch-Irish blood, found the "stuffy" Lutheran services, with their onorous Organ Music totally depressing. She enjoyed a bit less "Law" and more "Gospel" <good news> ditto the music. She often told her good little Lutheran children about the "camp meetings" when she was a girl. The preacher would get going on his "hell fire and damnation" sermon and the congergation would sing and get so "caught up in the spirit" that they would roll the soft backed hymn books up and beat them against their hands so hard that the books were torn down the middle. This preaching and praying would go on for several days. I can still hear her singing at our Lutheran services. She never hit a note but would happily trill up and down the scale along with the heavy organ music. As a teenager I was embarressed. She told me that the Bible commands us to 'Make a joyful NOISE!" And she did that, especially when on a special occasion the "church" would relent and play a "gospel song". Old favorites like "In the Garden" (she chose that for her funeral) "The Old rugged Cross" and "Jesus loves me". Then, could my Mama sing! I have attended the Luther church for 50 years and not yet have I seen any of that kind of "spirit". Indeed, just a few years ago PBS had a show about the Main stream churches the gist of it was that "they are so cold, one could ice skate down the center aisle. 'nuff of this old lady's ramblings.. .. Cheers, Carol ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

At 09:01 PM 10/10/97 +0000, Larry wrote: > Slavery was well established in the colony of North Carolina long >before Orange County came into being. >>>>> Another interesting fact - slavery was even lower in the German community. Good Searching - Good Finding - Good Luck! David Huffines Searching Hofheintz/Huffines/Huffhines/Hoffein/et.al. and Williamson, Wakefield, Underwood, Paisley, Sikes, Lipscomb ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Hi Carol, Thanks for posting the information on Orange County, NC and the Cane Creek Monthly Meeting. Several of my ancestors were among the first settlers on this area and I am attempting to additional information about them. Any help you and the list members can provide would be greatly appreciated! I am looking for the parents of William Green, born February 6, 1762 in Prince Edward County, Virginia. William Green joined the Hillsborough, Orange County, NC Militia in 1779, and married Kezziah Patton in her parents home in Hillsborough on January 9, 1781. Their first son, Thomas S. Green was born in Orange County, NC October 24, 1781, before the family moved to Burke County, NC in about 1783 where the other children were born. William Green later moved to Haywood County, NC where he died March 2, 1837. His widow died in Carroll County, Georgia August 1, 1849 where most of her children had moved because of the discovery of gold in the Indian part of present day Georgia. Tom Green TBGreen3@aol.com ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

Cane Creek Monthly Meeting, Orange (now Alamance) County North Carolina was established 7th of 10th month 1751, being located on the stream from which it took its names, in the central part of the large area which comprised Orange County. This area included all the present counties of Caswell, Person, Alamance, Chatham and Orange and parts of Rockingham, Guilford, RAndolph, Lee, Wake and Durham. In 1771 Chatham, Guilford and Wake Counties were established- - each taking a part of Orange County. The division line between Orange and chatham was run a short distance to the south of the Meeting house, so the meeting continued to be in Orange County, but the residence of many of the members were thrown into Chatham. This accounts for the fact that in a large number of families the older children are recorded as having been born in Orange County and the younger ones in Chatham County. In 1849 Orange County was again divided, the western portion, including the site of Cane Creek Meeting, being set off as Alamance County. The meeting house is today located in that county, adjacent to the village of Snow Camp, and about 15 miles south of Graham, the county seat. Ref: Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy Vol 1 North Carolina by William Wade Hinshaw ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Your contrast of the German and the Scoth-Irish is intriguing if not insightful. I would love to hear more. What are your sources. I am of German and of Scotch Irish descent, so I couldn't let your remarks just drop. Ray Handley ray2292@aol.com ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Slavery was well established in the colony of North Carolina long before Orange County came into being. Slavery was not as important an institution in Orange County as other places. At no time did slaves constitute more than 31 percent of the total population of the county. In 1755 (3 years after its founding) only 8 percent of the families owned slaves. The largest slaveholder at that time, Mark MORGAN, had only 6 slaves. By 1780, however, 3 percent of Orange Co slaveholders had more than 20 slaves. The 1790 census showed 10,055 whites, 2,060 Negro slaves, and 101 other free persons. At that time there were 14 slaveholders who had 10 slaves or more. 4 of these 14 lived in Hillsboro. William COOPER was the largest slaveholder in Hillsboro with 22 and Richard BENNEHAN, a planter, was the largest slaveholder in the county with 24. Others who had 10 or more were George ALLEN, John TAYLOR, Matthew McCAULEY, John HOGAN, Thomas H PERKINS with 10 each; Walter ALVES with 11; William SHEPPARD and William O'NEAL with 12 each; Hardy MORGAN with 14; Alexander MEBANE with 16; and a person whose name is not known with 20. In 1860 less than half of all landowners in the county had slaves. Over 40 percent of those had only one slave. The following is a direct quote: "Most slaveholders owned a small number of slaves, hence the relationship between master and slave was very close. The master knew his slaves by name, took a personal interest in them individually, and looked upon them almost as members of his family" In 1860 the 3 largest slaveholders were I. N. PATTERSON with 106, Paul CAMERON with 98, and Henry WHITTED with 78. The above information (as much of my general information does) came from the book "Orange County - 1752-1952" edited by Hugh Lefler and Paul Wager and published in Chapel Hill in 1953. My access to the book is in the local library. I would like to purchase a copy if anyone knows where I can get it. Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah Gedcoms & other data are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah Florence Co,SC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~scfloren Orange Co, NC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line

"there was a cultural clash between the German trait of neatness, "a place for everything and everything in it's place . . ." Larry asked me to write a little something about my understanding about the tensions between the Scotch-Irish and the German communities in Orange Co.NC. My husband, after living for 26 years with a wife who is Scotch-Irish and German, put the little quip (see above) on my computer screen and I sent it by mistake. Sorry 'bout that. As well as political differences, I would suspect that language was a big factor in the 'misunderstanding' between the German Community and the Scotch-Irish across the river. I understand that at the first few census in Orange a large percentage of the German community spoke only German. In the book "Orange County--1752-1952; Chapt. III written by Ruth Blackwelder, she states: "There were Scotch-Irish in eastern Orange --in the Little river and New Hope creek sections." ". . . The Scotch-Irish in what is now Guilford County organized Buffalo Presbyterian church in 1756." "Germans held the land west of the Haw River. The Pioneers in that group were Lutheran. Ludiwg CLAPP's grant of 640 acres on the Alamance was recorded in 1752." " There were other distinct settlements on Orange county, English emigrants from Virginia settled in northern Orange alsong the Hico river and County Line Creek. "South Ireland" near Stoney creek, in present Alamance county, indicates the Irish element." "Quakers constituted a considerable portion of the early population of Orange county. There were 950 white taxables in 1755 but there were only 490 on the militia list, which may be explained by the fact that many Quakers were pacifists. Quakers settled north of Hillsboro but they were most numerous in the Cain Creek and Stinking Quarter Creek area. (note: I have Hinshaw's Quaker Book for NC - if anyone needs lookups) Cheers, Carol ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Census research can be a little tricky in a county such as the old Orange. You really need to know the area involved and when and if it split from Orange. There is an index for the censuses from 1790 to 1850 on the Orange County NCGenWeb archive page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm There is also information on these pages that show the breakup of the county. It is my understanding that the original 1790 census of Orange was lost. What is available was reconstructed from tax records. Many times I see someone say that a person was in the county in 1810 and not in 1820. The forget that the census is taken where a person actually is - not where they live. They could have been on a trip, in a hospital in another county etc.. Just because a person is not on the census for a particular year does not mean that they did not live there. Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah Gedcoms & other data are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah Florence Co,SC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~scfloren Orange Co, NC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1400 databases on line