At 06:02 PM 11/13/97 -0600, Larry Noah wrote: [snip] > There were loyalists in the county. I have no problem that I have >loyalist as ancestors even if they did fight on the loosing side. I would >also have no problem if I found ancestors fighting on the winning side of >the Civil War. We are here to find our roots - not to judge our ancestors. Excellent point. btw, there are at least two books on Southerners on the Union side in the Civil War. One is Bushwhackers: The Civil War in North Carolina: The Mountains. The other [I don't have the title since I don't own the book and I didn't take notes on it.] has a *lot* of NC information, particularly from the Piedmont and further east. (I have a relative who owns a copy and I plan to do my best to talk him out of his copy.<g>) Elizabeth Whitaker elwhitaker@shtc.net computer columnist, THE BETHUNE PAW PRINT http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~elwhitaker (new version) ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

At 10:59 AM 11/14/97 -0600, Carol A Johnson wrote: >Death records are one of the important sources of genealogical information. >. . Also a source for amazement, if one reads the "cause of death" section. > The most popular cause was "consumption" but amost as many died of >"chronic". Unlike other contagious diseases that struck an area and after >a while, moved on, "comsumption" and "chronic" remained for years! >"Bilious" took it's toll as did a variety of fevers, i.e. lung, glandular, >nervous, brain and "new moany". Children fell victim to hives, croup and >summer complaint. One thing that might give you a chill would be a quick check of medical education: before 1917 (the Flexner Report), there really weren't any, except that most medical students spent time observing a practicing physician. Medicine, which has been attracting many of the best and the brightest in this country since at least 1940, was regarded quite differently before then, especially before World War I. Even today, with all the blood tests, radiologic procedures, and in-office procedures, doctors can still not know what's really wrong with the patient. (I've had personal experience with this: my situation was resolved last year after the thyroid tumor was taken *out* and examined. Mysteries ain't fun to the afflicted.) Back then, there were almost no blood tests, x-rays were questionable, and, if all else failed, there might not be an autopsy -- and, if there was an autopsy, the true cause of death still might not be determined. Elizabeth Whitaker elwhitaker@shtc.net computer columnist, THE BETHUNE PAW PRINT http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~elwhitaker (new version) ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange

At 10:05 AM 11/14/97 -0600, Carol A Johnson wrote: >Hi Tom and all, Tom, thank you for your corrections. They make good >sense. But, as I said before in an earlier posting (and someone said >before me) "History is an account of something which never happened, >written by someone who wasn't there." I think that may be a bit harsh - >after all "where there's smoke - there is fire." It's like the blind men >describing the elephant - each one feeling it at a different place. This >was driven home to me when I started this genealogy stuff. The diarys and >letters of the common private in the Civil war told a totally different >story than the "history books." Then, who to believe? The one that makes >the most common sense. Your statement about "second army could not sustain >itself following another army" does indeed make sense. Not being a "battle >buff" these are things that I was not aware of. There's a historical specialty area (historiography) that deals with how history has been and is written and taught. The annales "school" of history concentrates on the ordinary people of a particular time. The annales "school" began in France, which is how it got its name. btw, an excellent source on a lot of 18th century weather across the eastern US is Francis Asbury. His diaries were collected and edited in a two-volume set *that I DON"T own* forty years ago or so: if you don't have regular access to a university library, you may be able to get these by ILL through your local library. (Asbury travelled across most of the eastern U.S. in the mid and late 18th centuries by *horse*, and he describes the weather, how he felt that day, who he stayed with (by *name*), etc.) Elizabeth Whitaker elwhitaker@shtc.net computer columnist, THE BETHUNE PAW PRINT http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~elwhitaker (new version) ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

There is now a page at the Orange County NCGenWeb site (see URL) below for this mailing list. It is designed for new subscribers and potential subscribers. This is for your information only. All that is there is telling about the list, how to subscribe and sample welcome messages. Larry Noah - larmil-1@worldnet.att.net Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah Gedcoms & other data are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah Florence Co,SC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~scfloren Orange Co, NC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

My wife is descended from Semore's father Jeremiah. My daughter provided me with the following that was taken from one of my wife's aunt's handwritten notes. I do not know the aunt's source (she is now deceased) or the validity of the information. **************************************************************************** ***************** Semore appears to be one of those loyal to the British Crown. The king's representatives gave instructions to the royal governor who carried them out through a body known as the Colonial Assembly. Semore was a member of the Assembly, elected in 1768 by the male taxpayers of Orange Co. At times he appeared to "take the middle ground" Although he was a community leader, he assisted some Regulators who ran into trouble with Governor TRYON. In 1771 Semore YORK along with Jeremiah YORK, Preacher Shubel STEARNS, Assemblyman John McGEE and (Others) signed a petition asking for a pardon from Governor TRYON for the regulator activities of John PUGH and Thomas WELBORN. These men were neighbors of Semore. It would appears that while Semore was very strongly aligned with the British throne he respected and had compassion for those with opposing political views. On Jan 10, 1776 Semore (who was 50) was appointed Captain by Governor Josiah MARTIN, the last british Governor of NC. As such he was granted the power for form armed forces faithful to the British throne. He and others were then ordered to lead the Tory forces and take part in the Battle at Widow Moore's Creek near Wilmington, NC. The Tories were overtaken by the Whigs and Semore was one of the hundreds captured. On Oct 12 1776, Semore's wife Sylvanius (ALDRIDGE) signed a petition along with the wives of eight other prisoners to free their husbands from prison. That petition is quoted from the Colonial Records of NC as follows: "That where our husbands Semor York (Others) of Guilford County and profince of North Carolina was made prisoners in and about the tenth day of Feabury last, we your humble petiticioners beg that you would with an eye of pity and compashon take their and our deplorable condintion into your wise consideration and that you will restore them back again to us upon some resonable terms that they can comply with as we hope that it is out of their power to doe and damage to the common cause and where they are not allowed the necesitys of life as prisoners of war nor the liberty the prisoners of war have; therefore we hope that your honours will out of pitty and compashion to us and our familys releas our husbands from their bonds. We made our aplication to the county commitee and their advise was to petticion you honours. Your petticioners ever pray" 12 Oct 1776 Signed Silveney YORK (Others) Beginning in May of 1778 after the end of the Revolutionary War citizens had to sign an allegiance to the new government. Semore refused to take the oath. It is not clear whether he was still in prison, how long he remained or if he relented and took the oath. He was eventually released, retaining his property. It is presumed he received citizenship. **************************************************************************** **************** Larry Noah - larmil-1@worldnet.att.net Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah Gedcoms & other data are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah Florence Co,SC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~scfloren Orange Co, NC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange

The Daniel Huffman Bible is owned by Howard W. Huffman family, Burlington, NC. A copy of this Bible Record can be found in the NC Archives. The Bible was printed by the Complete Domestic Bible Publishing Company, but does not show a copyright date. MARRIAGES.... Daniel Huffman and Edna Boon was married March 29th, 1857 BIRTHS..... Daniel Huffman Nov. 11, 1832 Edna Huffman Feb. 26, 1833 Peter P, Hoffman Jun 8th, 1858 Mary E. Hoffman Mar 28, 1860 Emily C. Hoffman July 23, 1862 Thomas L. Hoffman Aug 20, 1866 Sarah Ann Hoffman July 4, 1868 Laura Caroline Hoffman Aug 18th, 1870 Adam Hoffman Oct. 18, 1873 DEATHS.... Daniel Huffman Jan. 9, 1905 Edna Huffman Nov. 28, 1911 Peter P. Hoffman ---20, 1929 (Feb. 20, 1929 from Brick Church Records) Emily C. Hoffman Nov. 15, 1889 Thomas L. Hoffman June 2, 1947 Sarah Ann Hoffman Apr. 8, 1912 Laura Caroline Hoffman Feb. .. 1948 Adam Hoffman June 29, 1900 ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

The James Gilliam Bible is owned by Mrs John Christopher of Elon College, NC and a copy is listed with the N.C. Archives and the Alamance County Genealogy Society. There is no flyleaf page. BIRTHS.... James Gilliam was born November the 3rd, 1791 Fany Gilliam wife of James Gilliam was born June 13th, 1791 Mary W. Gilliam wife of James Gilliam was born March the 19th, 1808 Henry Gilliam was born September 19th, 1810 Howell Gilliam was born August 12th, 1812 Mary Gilliam was born Nov 3rd, 1815 J. Mason Gilliam was born Aigust 2nd, 1820 Mahaly Gilliam was born September 23rd, 1823 Martha E. Gilliam was born Nov 5th, 1828 Susana Gilliam was born January 5th 1831 Nancy Christian Gilliam was born April 27th, 1833 Elon Misley Gilliam was born Dec. 29, 1834 Meriam Jane Gilliam was born May the 16, 1837 Sarah An Gilliam was born January the 2nd 1840 Julia Frances Gilliam was born June 30th 1842 Elisebeth Antonette Gilliam was born September the 3 1845 Mary Elisebeth Ezzell was born June the 11 1860 --------was born August the 8th 1797 William Ezell was born February the 4 1862 DEATHS.... Fanny Gilliam wife of James Gilliam deceased November the 3 1826 Henry Gilliam deceased July 14th 1824 Martha E. Gilliam Nov. 28 1829 deceased Nancy C. Gilliam deceased Oct 17 1833 James Gilliam deceased September 6 1848 Sarah Gilliam deceased June 6 1852 Martha Gilliam deceased May 4th 1837 MARRIAGES..... ------James Gilliam and Fanny his wife was married August 1877 James Gilliam and Mary W. Gilliam was married Jun 7th 1827 James Mason Gilliam and Sophy his wife was married March 15th ------ ************************************************************************* Can anyone out there fill in any blanks on this James and Fanny Gilliam family? ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

David Fanning was a Loyalist Colonel, with a small army of soldiers recruited from the people of central Carolina. These troops terrorized people far and wide throughout the piedmont of North and South Carolina. During one of their raids in Guilford County, they killed one of the McAdow brothers. Later a group of militiamen from Guilford caught Alexander Shannon, a local recruit, visiting his family in the community. The militiamen proceeded to execute Shannon. (1781) Later they discovered that they might be subject to civil prosecution for murder, three of them applied to the assembly for a pardon for their action. James McAdow, a brother of the victim of Fannings troops, Henry Reed, and William Hall were the applicants. Their application was approved, the final voice vote recorded was 50 for and 7 against. ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1500 databases on line

In a message dated 11/15/97 12:47:33 PM, DFGM43A@prodigy.com wrote: <<John Alexander..... William Mebane.... James Neeley... James Neeley Jr.... Robert Neeley.... James Graham....>> Louise, Thanks for the list of Regulators from Guilford County. I noticed William Mebane's name in the list; was this the son of Alexander Mebane, Sr.? As I copied it above, I was also struck by the name of James Graham. My John Graham had a brother James who I thought had remained in Pennsylvania when John and his family came down. Now I am wondering if this James might be John's brother. I would very much like to communicate with anyone who is a descendant of this James Graham. Hope that they are subscribing to this list!! John Fox Winston-Salem. NC ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange GENDEX at http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ has over 1500 databases on line

Rooters.... I typed up this list for someone that is researching the surname GANT in Guilford County. Thought there might be other Gant researchers out there that this list would also help. If you "suspect" that you may have some folks buried at this cemetery....email me, and I will check those surnames out for you. Mount Pleasant United Church Cemetery Central section of Guilford County, just east of city limits of Greensboro, NC Jacob Thomas Gant.... born 26 July 1872...died 26 Nov 1951 Ada Lucile Gant, wife of J.T., born 6 March 1876... died 20 Feb 1920 Charlie Rufus Gant... "Brother".... born 6 Oct 1904... died 19 Apr 1920 Callie Luvenia Gant... "Sister" born 11 Jan 1900...died 15 Feb 1920 son and daughter of J.T. and A.L. William Madison Gant...born Mar 1838.... died 26 Nov 1918... 80y, 8m. Emily Gant...w/o W.M....born 17 Feb 1844...died 4 Dec 1903... 59y, 9m,17d Paulina F. Gant....born 23 Jul 1830.... died 25 Feb 1891... 60y 7m 2d Infant girl...(no parents listed) born and died 22 April 1896 James M. Gant... "Father" born 4 March 1842...died 12 Nov 1899 Margaret Cable Gant..."Mother" 19 born Jan 1854...died 26 Oct 1928 ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Tories Captured At Battle Of Moore's Creek Bridge Frederick CRAFTS William SHANNON Jeremiah FIELD Joseph FIELD Seymore YORK Stephen PARKER John DOWNING John DOAK James LOW Robert TURNER Samuel DeVINEY William FIELD Robert FIELD William ARMFIELD Stephen SISNEY David JACKSON Robinson YORK Joseph DOBSON John SIMMONS Robert ADAMS Other Tories Reneca JULIAN James WALKER Jacob ELLIOT Abraham WOODWARD James WILSON William DRAPER John UNDERHILL ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

I have a Rhoda Everett COOK m. Fisher CLENDENING in Orange Co.NC. She is shown as the dau. of Henry COOK and Margaret MCRAY/MACREY Rhoda b. ca. 1821 d. Jun 1849/50. Can anyone give me more info about the CLENDENING-COOK family. Thanks, Carol ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

I would like to caution everyone to not send to the list anything that is protected by copyright without permission of the authors. Public record are, of course, not copyrighted. Privately written material is (unless it states otherwise). As I understand it (I am not a lawyer), anything published less than 75 years ago could still be covered by copyright. That does not mean that it is. But, I believe anything published over 75 years ago is considered public domain. With genealogy materials you can often get permission from the author to send parts of their work. I have done it before. Keep up the good work! Larry Noah - larmil-1@worldnet.att.net Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah Gedcoms & other data are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah Florence Co,SC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~scfloren Orange Co, NC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange

Good after noon, Its snowing in the great state of Wisconsin today. I love the first day of snow...I have decided to purge my papers, notebooks, boxes, and clean out my computer and start all over again. <smile> I belong to a lot of groups to, and I believe it is the best one of all and if we had to give a prize to someone it would be Larry. In the work I have done with him and arround him I have to tell you he is the best no nice's person I know. Now maybe it is becouse the people that belong to this list are also very special people. I wished more of you were in Virginia, Tennessee, and some of my surnames. As I am going threw all this mess If I find something that looks like it belongs to a Orange County group I will send it. Please do not ask me any questerns about it unless I say I have more. This is not my direct family but it may fit someone else. CONFIDENCE, of London, Two hundred tons, John Gibson, Master. She salled from Southampton the last of April, "by vertue of the Lord Treasurers warrant of the 11th of April 1638 . On the list of passengers are Walter Haynes 55 linen weaver Elizabeth Haynes Josias Haynes Suffrance Haynes PETER NOYES 47 OF PENTONM, COUNTY HANTS, YEOMAN WATERTOWN THOMAS NOYES 15 ELIZABETH NOYES ?? aS aLWAYS Pat ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

REGULATORS 1765-1771 There are nearly 100 undecipherable German names on this petition. It is believed that the Germans, almost to a man, were Regulators. This is only a partial listing. Names are listed in the order of the signature on the petitions, and spelling is as was written. Patrick Hays...James Coots....Jeffrey Beck... Thomas Wilson... John Blair....Isaac Beeson.... William Beeson....Benjamin Beeson....William Beeson....William Field...Robert Field...Jeremiah Field....William Field, Jr.... Joseph Field... John Talbot... Isaac Edwards....Francis McNary... Ralph Gorrell....Levi Pennington... Hugh Blair... David Jackson... William Armfield... William Armfield Jr.... Jonas Touchstone.... James Calhoon.... Isaac Armfield Jr.... Jeremiah Reynolds.... Conrad Shoemaker... Seymore York.... William Spurgeon.... Henry Strader.... Samuel Deviney.... Peter Julian... William White.... George Finley.... William Rankin.... Samuel Clark.... James Powell ...... John Alexander..... William Mebane.... James Neeley... James Neeley Jr.... Robert Neeley.... James Graham.... John Hall... Thomas McCuistion .... John Doak.... John Fanin.... William Stringfellow.... John Par.... Lodwick Clapp.... Nicholas Goble .....George Clap.... Tobias Clap .....John Flemming.... George Goble.... Jacob Soots... James Phipps... Powell Glase... Phillip Glase Sr .....Jacob Stelie... Barnit Swing... James Low... James Hunter.... Andrew Finley.... David Barnhill.... Adam Lackey... William Cusick.... William Wiley.... John Forbes.... Edward Ryan... William Shannon ....John Clap.... George Cortner.... Peter Cortner.... John Goble... Bartoledum Dun.... Peter Julian Jr.... Adam Larance.... Joseph Phipps.... John Phipps... Christen Fall.... Hugh Wyley ... William Jones... Phillip Glase Jr ....Christian Glase.... George Glase..... Ludwig Swing ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Book E 1869-1895 Nancy D. Brooks 1879 E-155 Mary C. Til(l)man 1878 E-157 Ezekel(e) Hilliard 1879 E-158 Martha Harper 1877 E-160 Mary (signed: Martha) Lutor 1878 E-161 Alford Henderson 1879 E-162 Mary Crutchfield 1878 E-163 Gabril Spivey 1878 E-164 Catherine Womble 1878 E-165 Abemelak (?) Barbee 1879 E-166 E.P. Farrington 1879 E-168 Burvin Holland 1879 E-169 Tarlton Johnson 1879 E-170 Julia A. Moor 1878 E-171 Mary S. Reid 1879 E-173 Alexander (spelled Elexandrew) Durham 1879 E-173 Wily Jones 1879 E-174 James B. Stone 1879 E-176 Nicholas L. Stith, of Haywood Co. 1878, in Chatham Co. 1880 E-177 Alex. Jas. Derbyshire, of Phila., Pa 1879 E-180 Samuel Dennison Lewis 1879 E-189 Samuel Baldwin 1879 E-191 John Harrington 1879 E-192 Nancy Fike 1880 E-193 Micheal Thraelkill 1880 E-184 Martha Bobbett 1880 E-194 Martha Bobbett 1880 E-195 John Adcock 1880 E-196 Isaac H. Fike 1880 E-197 Ransom C. Poe 1880 E-198 Harman Cox 1880 E-202 Abram Cook 1880 E-204 Benj. Stuart 1880 E-205 Jesse Johnson 1880 E-207 John Fields 1880 E-208 Wm Dark 1880 E-210 Polly Bright 1880 E-211 John Horton 1880 E-212 Martha Barbee 1880 E-213 M.D. Williams Sr. 1881 E-214 Thomas Taylor 1881 E-215 Wm M. Hatch 1881 E-217 John Taylor "col" 1881 E-218 Sally Dollar 1880 E-219 Sarah M. Riggsbee 1881 E-220 Ruth Jones 1881 E-221 Geo. Rogers 1881 E-222 John Allen Stephens 1881 E-223 Margaret Teague 1881 E-224 To be continued....... ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

In a message dated 11/14/97 11:57:09 PM, rn99@kingman.com wrote: <<So far as I can determine, Catherine Cook was of German descent (Koch) and the Shofners were definitely of German descent. A number of Cooks had strong social and real estate connections with the Shofner family. In the 1790 census for Orange County, NC, the Shofners and a number of Cook families were living in close proximity. Another Shofner son, I believe it was Frederick, married Christina Cook. So I think my Cook line was of German descent.>> Robert, I think that you are perhaps very right in your research; the book that Miss Stockard did not list a reference for her data, she apparently conducted her research in an interview form, perhaps questioning family members about the family traditions that had been passed down. It is when we see a family record like this without those refereces used, that we wish that someone would have told them that unsubstantiated statements leave the researcher to go back over the same path again to attempt to prove what has been written. But isn't it interesting that whoever she interviewed had selected an English derivation as opposed to a Germanic one. Continuing the memory aspect of family or local history, I remember one man named Cook who was was nicknamed, "Bushy" because of the very full beard that he wore during the late 40's and 50's when I was growing up in Alamance County. The story was told of him that he had a son to go off to war during World War II, and he had vowed never to shave again until his son returned home. As I remember it, his son never returned from the war, and "Bushy" continued to allow his beard to grow. John Fox Winston-Salem, NC ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

I have been aware for about three years that some people believe they have found a connection between the Mayflower and Orange County, NC Cooks. In fact, I understand that one descendant of Martin Shofner and Catherine Cook Shofner, my direct line also, has been admitted to the Mayflower Society based on Catherine's supposed descent from the Cooks that were on the Mayflower. I have examined all the data on this subject that I can find and do not see any connection whatsoever. If anyone has any information on this subject feel free to prove me wrong. So far as I can determine, Catherine Cook was of German descent (Koch) and the Shofners were definitely of German descent. A number of Cooks had strong social and real estate connections with the Shofner family. In the 1790 census for Orange County, NC, the Shofners and a number of Cook families were living in close proximity. Another Shofner son, I believe it was Frederick, married Christina Cook. So I think my Cook line was of German descent. There may have been an English Cook line in Orange County in 1790 also. Roberta Cooke Schmidt is, in my opinion, probably going to connect with that line based on posts over the past two or three weeks on this list. If anyone has any information that will help identify the Cooks in the 1790 census for Orange County, please feel free to join in and help get them sorted out. Robert Nicholson, Kingman, AZ ---------- > From: Bebenjohn@aol.com > To: rn99@kingman.com; NCORANGE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Cook Family > Date: Friday, November 14, 1997 4:32 PM > > Dear Robert, > > I was just reading through "The History of Alamance" by Miss S. W. Stockard > printed in 1900, which was a work which came out of her MFA Thesis. She > mentioned the Cook Family in a very short passage which I thought that you > and others might like to know: > > CHAPTER XII. Cook Family > > The Cook family came over in the Mayflower. Francis and John Cook , 1620. > His son John Cook was in Petersburg, Virginia, 1750, but moved to Alamance, > settling on the Great Alamance, Mr. Edwin Holt's old place. > Henry Cook settled near the Daniel Holt place, 1750. > His son John (or Henry) married Miss McRae of Fayetteville. He was a > planter. They had five sons and two daughters. > Daniel married Miss Blackwood. > Archibald married Mrs. Staley. > Henry married Mary Bryan -Henry Monroe Cook, of Swepsonville. > Duncan married Emma Stanford. > John died. > Nancy married Judge Coble of Winston-Salem. > Julia married Andy Woods. > The Cooks were Whigs in time of the Revolution. > > > ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== > Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list > Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange > USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm > > ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

>I was just reading through "The History of Alamance" by Miss S. W. Stockard >printed in 1900, which was a work which came out of her MFA Thesis. {remainder deleted}. Miss Stockard's printed thesis is also considered to be the first published genealogy of the ALBRIGHT family and is a basis for many later researcher's work. Larry Noah - larmil-1@worldnet.att.net Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah Gedcoms & other data are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah Florence Co,SC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~scfloren Orange Co, NC GenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm

Dear Robert, I was just reading through "The History of Alamance" by Miss S. W. Stockard printed in 1900, which was a work which came out of her MFA Thesis. She mentioned the Cook Family in a very short passage which I thought that you and others might like to know: CHAPTER XII. Cook Family The Cook family came over in the Mayflower. Francis and John Cook , 1620. His son John Cook was in Petersburg, Virginia, 1750, but moved to Alamance, settling on the Great Alamance, Mr. Edwin Holt's old place. Henry Cook settled near the Daniel Holt place, 1750. His son John (or Henry) married Miss McRae of Fayetteville. He was a planter. They had five sons and two daughters. Daniel married Miss Blackwood. Archibald married Mrs. Staley. Henry married Mary Bryan -Henry Monroe Cook, of Swepsonville. Duncan married Emma Stanford. John died. Nancy married Judge Coble of Winston-Salem. Julia married Andy Woods. The Cooks were Whigs in time of the Revolution. ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== Larry Noah - lrnoah@bigfoot.com - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm