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    1. [NCORANGE-L] Deschamps, Rhody, Lane, Lewis
    2. Dorothy D. Wilson
    3. Hello all, My research includes the following: in Orange Co. 1793 - Augustin Deschamps/Dishon and children who married into Harrod, Price, Buckley, McVey, McClure, Gordon, Maynard and Rodet/Rhoda lines. Rhody/Roady/Rodet line including marriages with Deschamps, McGuyer, and Lane Both the Rodet and Deschamps families were in Chowan Co. before moving to Orange Co. in Chatham Co. - Lementine Lewis b. 1819, parents unknown but father possibly named Henry, John, or Robert Anyone with connections to these lines or information about them? I'd be happy to share what info I have and appreciate your help. Dorothy Wilson in CA

    01/24/1998 10:23:20
    1. [NCORANGE-L] BIRD WILLS
    2. M. Spencer
    3. Lost my inbox again this week with 40 unread messages. Would someone on the list send me the Empson and James Bird wills as I am descended from Empson. Thanks in advance. Martha Spencer

    01/24/1998 08:21:43
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Daniel and Sarah Lloyd HOGAN NC
    2. MS LOUISE T OVERTON
    3. Daniel HOGAN... born 29 July 1753 in Brunswick Co. VA...died 10 Jan 1787 in Orange Co. NC...son of Thomas HOGAN and Elizabeth unknown married 19 Sept 1775 to Sarah LLOYD, daughter of Thomas LLOYD and Tabitha unknown (BRADLEY or HENDLEY?). Sarah Lloyd HOGAN died 5 May 1825 and is buried in the Daniel HOGAN Cem., Chapel Hill, NC Children: Susannah HOGAN... born 8 June 1776.. died after the 1850 Census. Married Andrew HUNTER on 15 Aug 1800. Sarah HOGAN...born ca 1777...unknown death date...married 16 Oct 1793 to Shadrack DUGGER Nancy HOGAN...born 1779...nothing else known Mary HOGAN..born 1781...unknown death date...married on 15 Sept 1801 to Isaac WATSON Elizabeth Bradley HOGAN...born 1782...unknown death date..married 15 Aug 1804 to William GAVIN Hendley Thompson HOGAN...born 5 Nov 1784..died 8 July 1866 in Maury Co. TN...married 24 July 1813 to William P. BLACKWOOD 111 in Orange Co. NC Thomas Lloyd HOGAN...born 5 Aug 1785...died 4 July 1858..married on 6 Nov 1807 to Elizabeth FREELAND Daniel HOGAN Jr.....born 5 Jan 1787....died 1849...married ca 1810 to Elizabeth COLLIER.

    01/24/1998 07:47:08
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Andrew HUNTER----Orange Co. NC
    2. MS LOUISE T OVERTON
    3. Andrew HUNTER... born 1770-1775...son of ?... died 1831 Orange Co. NC...married on 15 Aug 1800 Orange Co. to Susannah HOGAN, daughter of Daniel HOGAN and Sarah LLOYD of Orange Co. NC. Andrew HUNTER left will in Orange County NC... written 16 Feb 1831...proved Aug Court 1831 naming the following children: They are listed here according to the will, but not in birth order. (wording within the brackets are from my research). Exe: Thomas HOGAN and John CAREATHERS Wit: Hasten POE and Reuben C. POE Alexander HUNTER (born ca 1811...married Hannah LLOYD...died after 1860 census) Nancy HUNTER (..married a LLOYD) Sarah HUNTER (born ca 1804...died before 1858....married Neverson C. CATE on 5 June 1827) Christa (Christena M.) HUNTER (born ca 1823..death date unknown...married on 15 Jan 1840 to William M. POE) Harriet HUNTER (born ca 1825.. death date unknown..married ca 1847 to Ruffin ANDREWS) Thomas Lloyd HUNTER (born 28 Aug 1801...died 8 Sept 1852 in TN...married Cynthia A. LLOYD on 21 Apr 1829) Elizabeth HUNTER (nothing known) Frances HUNTER (born ca 1813... death date unknown..married on 1 Jan 1832 to Merritt CHEEK) Jane HUNTER (born ca 1809... died after 1850 census...married on 1 Feb 1831 to Campbell LLOYD) Eliza HUNTER....(born ca 1813.... died 1883.... married on 17 Aug 1832 to Adley/Adlai ANDREWS of Orange Co. They were my 2nd g-grandparents) Does anyone know who the first wife was of Andrew HUNTER? In this 1831 will he says "that my first wife's children have nothing more than they have received". Also, I would appreciate info on daughter Elizabeth HUNTER.

    01/24/1998 01:13:22
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Re: Will of Empson BIRD 1831- Will of James BIRD 1805
    2. Bill Day
    3. Greetings, I am a cousin <1st cousin 5 times removed >of Empson Bird and the 5th Great-grandson of James Bird. I found the wills very interesting and hope there is more information on my Bird relatives while they resided in North Carolina. Any information would be greatly appreciated. My line is as follows: Descendants of James Bird 1 James Bird 1726 - 1805 d: 1805 in Orange County, North Carolina .. +Mary Ashford 1728 - m: November 1744 in Old Swede Church, Wilmington, Delaware ......... 2 Thomas Bird 1755 - 1835 d: May 13, 1835 in Orange County, North Carolina ............. +Anna Browning 1761 - 1825 m: October 14, 1784 in Caswell d: 1825 .................... 3 David Bird 1788 - 1859 d: January 29, 1859 in Henderson County, Tennessee ........................ +Catherine 1792 - 1849 m: June 03, 1813 in Halifax County, Virginia d: December 14, 1849 in Henderson, Tennessee ............................... 4 George Yell Bird 1829 - 1906 d: November 04, 1906 in Gainesville, TX ................................... +Elizabeth Gossett 1829 - ........................................... 5 Thomas Arthur Bird 1866 - 1959 d: 1959 ............................................... +Minnie Brown 1869 - 1958 m: March 28, 1886 in Red River Home - Brown's Ferry d: August 01, 1958 in buried at Chickasha, OK ...................................................... 6 Thomas Fred Bird 1889 - 1927 d: December 12, 1927 .......................................................... +Ludena Percer 1889 - 1957 d: 1957 ................................................................. 7 Hettie Ludena Bird 1915 - ..................................................................... +William Rush Day 1907 - 1993 d: May 30, 1993 in Mangum OK ............................................................................ 8 William Rush Day, Jr. 1943 - ................................................................................ +Sylvia Ann Pennington 1942 - m: August 06, 1971 in Arlington, VA ............................... *2nd Wife of George Yell Bird: ................................... +Lucetta McCall 1829 - ............................... *3rd Wife of George Yell Bird: ................................... +DEITZ 1829 - Thank You, William Rush Day Jr. billday@mindspring.com

    01/24/1998 08:47:04
    1. Re: [NCORANGE-L] GUNTER-MOORE-DRAKE Will in Chatham Co
    2. Bebenjohn
    3. Hellow JBrody, Is your William Drake a descendant of Francis Drake who lived originally in Edgecombe County, before settling in Chatham? If this is true, then you are a descendant of Richard (R) Drake of Isle of Wight, Virginia; I am a descendant of Richard's brother, Thomas (TD) Drake, of Southhampton County, Virginia. Willing to discuss and share on the family if you are interested. John Fox Winston-Salem, NC In a message dated 1/23/98 9:51:26 PM, JBrody845@aol.com wrote: <<Hi, Just thought I would post this for those of you with GUNTER/DRAKE/MOORE families. The "Sally DRAKE" mentioned was Sally MOORE North Carolina State Archives Chatham County Court Minutes, 1834-1841 cr 022.301.10 Tuesday, May Sessions 1837 "Deed of gift from William DRAKE to Sylvia GUNTER proved by the oath of M DRAKE " "It appearing from Satisfactory to this court that WILLIAM DRAKE a pensioner of the United States departed this life on the 12 day of March 1836 and that he left surviving him Sally DRAKE his widow it is therefore ordered that the clerk certify the same. "The last Will and Testament of William DRAKE deceased was proved in open court by the oath of George H SHUTT a subscribing witness thereto in the following words and figures to wit and ordered to be recorded. Moore DRAKE one of the executors appeared in open court and was qualified according to law.

    01/24/1998 07:40:10
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Re: Re: Will of Empson BIRD 1831- Will of James BIRD 1805
    2. Bebenjohn
    3. Hello Cousin William, Thank you for your lineage; it's always good to hear from a new cousin. I am a descendant of James Bird and Mary Ashford through their daughter, Mary Bird Graham. I will look foward to exchanging data and ideas about family with you. John Fox Winston-Salem, NC In a message dated 1/24/98 11:42:55 AM, billday@mindspring.com wrote: <<Greetings, I am a cousin <1st cousin 5 times removed >of Empson Bird and the 5th Great-grandson of James Bird. I found the wills very interesting and hope there is more information on my Bird relatives while they resided in North Carolina. Any information would be greatly appreciated. My line is as follows: Descendants of James Bird 1 James Bird 1726 - 1805 d: 1805 in Orange County, North Carolina ... +Mary Ashford 1728 - m: November 1744 in Old Swede Church, Wilmington, Delaware .......... 2 Thomas Bird 1755 - 1835 d: May 13, 1835 in Orange County, North Carolina .............. +Anna Browning 1761 - 1825 m: October 14, 1784 in Caswell d: 1825 ..................... 3 David Bird 1788 - 1859 d: January 29, 1859 in Henderson County, Tennessee ......................... +Catherine 1792 - 1849 m: June 03, 1813 in Halifax County, Virginia d: December 14, 1849 in Henderson, Tennessee ................................ 4 George Yell Bird 1829 - 1906 d: November 04, 1906 in Gainesville, TX .................................... +Elizabeth Gossett 1829 - ............................................ 5 Thomas Arthur Bird 1866 - 1959 d: 1959 ................................................ +Minnie Brown 1869 - 1958 m: March 28, 1886 in Red River Home - Brown's Ferry d: August 01, 1958 in buried at Chickasha, OK ....................................................... 6 Thomas Fred Bird 1889 - 1927 d: December 12, 1927 ........................................................... +Ludena Percer 1889 - 1957 d: 1957 .................................................................. 7 Hettie Ludena Bird 1915 - ...................................................................... +William Rush Day 1907 - 1993 d: May 30, 1993 in Mangum OK ............................................................................. 8 William Rush Day, Jr. 1943 - .............................................................................. ... +Sylvia Ann Pennington 1942 - m: August 06, 1971 in Arlington, VA ................................ *2nd Wife of George Yell Bird: .................................... +Lucetta McCall 1829 - ................................ *3rd Wife of George Yell Bird: .................................... +DEITZ 1829 - Thank You, William Rush Day Jr. billday@mindspring.com

    01/24/1998 04:31:50
    1. [NCORANGE-L] GUNTER-MOORE-DRAKE Will in Chatham Co
    2. Hi, Just thought I would post this for those of you with GUNTER/DRAKE/MOORE families. The "Sally DRAKE" mentioned was Sally MOORE North Carolina State Archives Chatham County Court Minutes, 1834-1841 cr 022.301.10 Tuesday, May Sessions 1837 "Deed of gift from William DRAKE to Sylvia GUNTER proved by the oath of M DRAKE " "It appearing from Satisfactory to this court that WILLIAM DRAKE a pensioner of the United States departed this life on the 12 day of March 1836 and that he left surviving him Sally DRAKE his widow it is therefore ordered that the clerk certify the same. "The last Will and Testament of William DRAKE deceased was proved in open court by the oath of George H SHUTT a subscribing witness thereto in the following words and figures to wit and ordered to be recorded. Moore DRAKE one of the executors appeared in open court and was qualified according to law.

    01/23/1998 06:47:32
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Johnston
    2. adedresser
    3. Searching for a JOHNSTON family - possibly Samuel - living in the old Orange County, NC, area around 1800. Robert Lyon died in Caswell County, NC, in 1804, leaving a legacy for his daughter, Jane Johnston, and it appears to have been collected by Saml. Johnston. I would love to know more about her family and descendents, and his ancestors. Would be happy to share information about Jane's family.

    01/23/1998 04:03:27
    1. [NCORANGE-L] [Fwd: Spelling] Correction
    2. Pauline Phelps
    3. correction to Neeley notes part 1 thanks to Virginia Tinkle <sgprrp@ktc.com> -- ************************************************************* Pauline [Neeley] Phelps 2201 Faye Lane Bakersfield CA 93304 805-834-1177 Just added new. http://www.angelfire.com/ca/lppfamily/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/paulinep/ <><>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>><<<>>>>>>>>><<<>>>><>>>>>><>>>>> Surnames; Neeley, Nicholson,Vann, Bible White, Pryor, Powell, Ussery, Tucker, Dalbey, Drury, Critchfields, & Looking for the ties to the Native American Indians *************************************************************** "Happiness is like a Butterfly." The more you chase it, the more it will elude you But if you turn your attention to other things, it comes softly & sits on your shoulder........ {A Nice GUY} ***********************************************************

    01/23/1998 10:11:19
    1. [NCORANGE-L] CATES Wills in Person Co. NC
    2. MS LOUISE T OVERTON
    3. Person Co. NC Will Book 7 Page 1 Written 19 March 1815 Proved: May Court 1815 MATHIAS CATES wife: Sarah sons: Joshua CATES, Solomon CATES, William CATES Exe: Wright NICHOLS and Ephraim HAWKINS Wit: Absolem JOHNSTON and John ROUNDTREE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Will Book 7 Page 88 Written 12 Jan 1816 Proved Feb Court 1816 JOHN CATES wife: Lydia sons: Ransom CATES, Rufus CATES, Newel CATES daus: Elizabeth, Susannah, Salley, Lucretia, and Jane CATES childrens grandfather: Robert CATES Exe Jesse EVANS, Joseph ROUNDTREE of Orange Co. Wit: Francis EPPERSON and Robert CUMMINS

    01/23/1998 07:16:33
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Joseph Warren Neeley [Sons] Notes part 2
    2. Pauline Phelps
    3. JESSE & JOSHUA NEELEY The 1900 census of OK Indian Territory show that both Jesse & Joshua had moved back to OK from Texas. Both Jesse & Joshua lived in Washita Co., in the community of Cloud Chief. The 1900 census shows that Jesse Neeley was born in Indiana in 1846. His wife was named Loucrettia & was from AR. Their children were; 1. Nellie Neeley  3/1879  TX 2. Henry Neeley  7/1881  TX 3. Edward C. Neeley  10/1883  TX 4. George Neeley  2/1886 TX 5. Loucrettia Neeley --10/1888  TX 6. William Neeley  12/1889  TX The 1900 census of the OK Indian Territory also shows Joshua Neeley as being born on 7/1850 in Indiana. It shows Joshuas wife as Pearlee Neeley, born 1870 IN. Their children were; 1. Rosie Neeley  7/1889  OK 2. Della Neeley  1/1900  OK JOHN WOOD NEALY JOHN WOOD NEALY [Neeley] son of Joseph & Cordellia [Kelly]Neeley [Nealy] born on 7/10/1878 in Wise Co., TX near Chico Brumlow. Cordellia died in 1891, & is buried in the Milligan Cemetery, which is located Northeast of Letexo, Texas. E. M. Moorhead is buried next to his first wife Mattie, in the McCann Cemetery, which is located near Houston Co., Lake, on the South side just west of the marina. John Nealy was 14 yrs at the time. He & his brother Phillip went to live with their Aunt Pearlee. When he was 16 yrs old, he & 2 friends, plus 1 horse, made a trip to Waco to see the new suspension bridge. John Nealy [Poppa] told me it took 3 days, taking turns riding & walking to travel from Grapeland to Waco. That same year, he went to live in Corsicana with a man named Honeycutt, a gambler. Poppa used to tell the story that Honeycutt considered him his good luck charm, as when he took John with him, he usually won, & when he left him home, he lost. John Nealy dated Edna Pearl Turner, but then married Linnie Johnson on Sept. 4, 1898. They had one daughter, Leona, who died of whooping cough & is buried in Milligan Cemetery. This information was given by Wilder Nealy Anderson. When John married Linnie Johnson, Edna Pearl Turner [who had made her wedding dress in hopes of marrying John] was very upset. Her mother told her to put the dress in her hope chest, & if she was patient, John would be available again someday. After Linnie died, John Nealy [Neeley] did indeed marry Pearl Turner. Their wedding date was April 16, 1900. The 1900 census shows that John Nealy & his wife, Pearl, were living with her father L. S. or Joe Turner [First name not clear on the census report] in Precinct 1,. Houston County. They lived for awhile on the Patton Place, near the Cemetery. John & Pearl had 10 children, 5 of which died at birth or shortly after. Pearl died in 1914 in a Palestine Hospital due to complications following the birth of twins, both of which died. John Nealy [Neeley] was a farmer. He lived & farmed at several places in Houston County - Patton Place, Hayes Springs, Darsey Place, Shavers, Taylor McQueens & finally on the Edgar & Dorothy McQueens farm. John Nealy [Neeley] married Martha Lee Lewis on Christmas Day in 1917. John was 40 years old & Martha was 16 years old. My dad [Herman Nealy [Neeley]] told me the biggest whipping Poppa ever gave him was on John & Marthas wedding night. Dad was only 2 years old when his mother died, & from then on, slept with his father every night. He could not understand why just because his father had gotten married that he could not continue to sleep with him. John & Martha had 11 children  4 girls & 7 boys. The 1st son Jacob died at birth. John & Martha were married 52 years. They lived to celebrate their Golden Wedding Anniversary, at which time a big family party was held. John [Poppa] Nealy [Neeley] died on September 27, 1969, at the age of 92.

    01/23/1998 03:10:20
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Joseph Warren Neeley Notes part 1
    2. Pauline Phelps
    3. JOSEPH WARREN NEELEY by Family Historian David Nealy b;1945 - Joseph's gggrandson Joseph Warren NEELEY was born in Tennessee in [b;1824 pl. TN d; 1881 pl. Houston Co., TX.- Bur; Dailey Cemetery, Grapeland, TX ]. He was the eldest son of Thomas G. NEELEY [b; 12/15/1803 pl. .] TN d;6/16/1890 Bur; Antioch Cemetery, Sullivan Co., IN] & Susan Jane USSERY, [b; 10/21/1803 pl. White Co., TN--d; 5/12/1866 pl. Bur; Antioch Cemetery, Sullivan Co., IN] Joseph moved to Carlisle, Sullivan Co., IN, with his parents & baby brother Phillip, in 1826 or 1827. Joseph had 9 other brother & sisters which were born in Carlisle, Sullivan Co., IN,. They were; 1. Elizabeth Ann NEELEY  1823  TN 2. Phillip Ulysses NEELEY  2/2/1827  TN d; 8/3/1886 Archer City, TX 3. Nancy Smith NEELEY 1829 IN 4. Frances Usrey NEELEY  1831  IN 5. Mary Jane NEELEY  1833  IN 6. Henrietta N. NEELEY -- 1835  IN 7. Juda N. NEELEY  1837  IN 8. Angelina NEELEY  1840  IN 9. Infant NEELEY  1842  IN 10. Margaret NEELEY  1844  IN 11. Thomas NEELEY 1849  IN Josephs first wife was Eleanor [Nelly] POWELL. They were married ca. 1846. The 1850 census of Indiana shows that he was a farmer, and lived in Carlisle, Sullivan Co., IN. Their children that were born in Carlisle, were; 1. Jesse P. Neeley  1845  IN 2. Joshua P. Neeley  1847  IN 3. Sarah Neeley  1850  IN 4. Mary J. Neeley  1854  IN 5. Thomas G. Neeley II  1858  IN In 1859, Joseph & Nelly moved to the Creek Indian Nation. This was shown on the 1860 census of OK as being in the Northeast corner of OK, near the AR border. They left 2 children behind in IN. He was shown on the 1860 census as a well digger. He left his son Joshua behind with his Aunt Pigg. She had married Joseph Pigg & was living in Carlisle. Sarah was staying with her grandparents, Thomas & Jane Neeley according to the 1860 census of Sullivan Co., IN., both children soon joined their family in OK. Soon after moving to OK, Joseph & Nelly had another child. William [Billy], born in 1859. They lived in OK until 1874, about which time Nelly died. Records of this time period in OK were sketchy, since they lived in Indian territory, & non-Indians were not well documented. Joseph & his sons Jesse, Joshua & William & Josephs brother Phillip & his family, moved to Wise Co., TX in 1874. This is the 1st year they show up on the tax roll for Wise Co., TX. Joseph married Cordellia Kelly ca. 1877. They had 2 sons, John W. b; 7/20/1877& Phillip U., born 8/10/1880, they were both born in Wise Co. Joseph shows on the tax rolls of Wise Co., IN from 1874-1881. 1881 must have been the year that Joseph, Cordellia, John & Phillip moved to Houston Co., Joseph must have died that same year, as he doesnt show up on the Houston Co., tax rolls for either 1881 or 1882, or any year thereafter, or in any year before 1881. Joseph W. Neeley is buried in the Dailey Cemetery, West of Grapeland, TX. It is here that I feel the name changed to NEALY. Neither John or Phillip were of school age & Cordellia probably didnt read or write, so they grew up spelling their name the way others told them it should be spelled. Cordellia remarried on August 19, 1887, when she married E. M. Moorhead. He was a widower & had a young son, Sam Moorhead. E. M. Moorhead 1st wife was Mattie Clive. They married 12/22/1885. E. M. & Cordellia had one child, a daughter named Margaret. She was the half [=] sister to John & Phillip Nealy & Sam Moorhead. Cordellia died in 1891, & is buried in the Milligan Cemetery, which is located Northeast of Letexo, Texas. E. M. Moorhead is buried next to his first wife Mattie, in the McCann Cemetery, which is located near Houston Co., Lake, on the South side just west of the marina. Since the 1890 census was destroyed by fire in Washington D. C., I had to depend upon the tax rolls of Houston & Wise Co., for information. The Neeleys continue to show up on the tax rolls of Wise Co., through 1900 , in & near Chico. Some of these Neeleys,. I think, are probably the grandchildren of Joseph Warren Neeley, may still be living in Wise Co., & in Northwest OK, near Cloud Chief, & most certainly in IN.

    01/23/1998 03:05:07
    1. [NCORANGE-L] JOHNSTON Wills in Person Co. NC
    2. MS LOUISE T OVERTON
    3. Person Co. NC Will Book 1 Page 150 Written 26 Nov 1792 Proved Sept Court 1794 Joseph JOHNSTON wife: Anne daughters: Martha SCOGGIN, Mary SINK, and youngest daughter Elizabeth LEWIS Exe: wife Ann JOHNSTON --------------------------------------------------------------- Will Book 1 Page 166 Written: 13 March 1795 Proved June Court 1795 Joshua JOHNSTON wife: Kiddy son: James JOHNSTON daughters: Sarah SMITH, Mary JOHNSTON, Rhoda JOHNSTON, Anne JOHNSTON grandsons: Abel JOHNSTON and William STEPHENSON Exe: Stephen MOORE and Phillip MOORE Wit: Ben PARTES and James ANDERSON

    01/22/1998 08:14:22
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Joseph TATE Orange Co NC Will
    2. MS LOUISE T OVERTON
    3. Orange Co. NC Will Book E Page 105 Written 11 Nov 1825 Proved Feb Court 1826 Joseph TATE wife: Mary TATE daughters: Polly TATE and Alice TATE sons: James TATE, Joseph TATE, William TATE, Robert TATE son: Griffith TATE legacy to him if said Griffith TATE ever return to this county. dau: Elizabeth TAYLOR Exe: sons William TATE and Robert TATE Wit: John HUGHES and William GATTIS

    01/22/1998 04:24:51
    1. Re: [NCORANGE-L] Beasley
    2. I have some information on the Barbees including Gray Barbee. I will be glad to exchange information with anyone. Who needs what? Doyle T. Brittain athensga@ix.netcom.com

    01/22/1998 04:12:30
    1. Re: [NCORANGE-L] Concerning Cousin marriages
    2. M. Spencer
    3. James Harmon wrote: > > Hello All, > I've read several messages concerning cousins marrying cousins on the > list and just wanted to make a comment on the subject. > > In some societies, 1st cousin marriages are the preferred marriage, > especially in Africa and South America. You may ask why this is so, > simply the preferred marriage for a male is his mother's sister's > daughter. In these societies, the male did not inherit his father's > property but rather his wife inherited her mother's brother's property. > Males did not inherit anything but titles, only daughters inherited > property. Simply put, you always know who the mother is, but not always > who was the father. This maternal lineage system insured that the > property stayed within the clan and the inheritor was positively > related. Another effect was if there were any defective genes in the > family line, after several generations, the defective lines would die > out. (loosely taken from South American Indians 302, UM) > > Frankly, I'm not ashamed of the 1st cousin marriages within my family, > it is part of my heritage and if it had not happened, I wouldn't exist. > To the best of my knowledge, there are no genetic recessives in my > family line either, maybe the 1st cousin marriages were a blessing after > all.......... > > Sincerely, > Jim Harmon > > -- > Jim Harmon mailto:jharmon@earthlink.net > BROWN-Rowan & Mecklinburg Co. NC>Cobb Co. GA>Calhoun Co. AL > COSTNER-Germany>Lincoln Co. NC>Union Dist. SC, Calhoun Co. MS>West>TX, > OK, CA > DOUGHERTY-Wythe Co. VA, Johnson Co. AL > HARMON-Hampshire Co. MA>Bennington Co. VT>Lincoln Co. TN>Monroe Co. MS > HARRIS-Surry Co. VA> Rockingham Co. NC > HAYLES-Alabama > MIZE-Patrick Co. VA > POWELL-Tallapoosa Co. AL > SLEMP/SLIMP-Wythe Co. VA>Johnson Co. TN > UPCHURCH-Greene Co. AL>MS > > ==== NCORANGE Mailing List ==== > Larry Noah - lrnoah@tripod.net - Listowner - NCORANGE mailing list > Orange Co, NC USGenWeb site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange > USGenWeb Orange Co, NC Archives site is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/orangnc.htm I might mention that first cousin marriages are legal in many states. Martha

    01/22/1998 04:04:34
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Concerning Cousin marriages
    2. James Harmon
    3. Hello All, I've read several messages concerning cousins marrying cousins on the list and just wanted to make a comment on the subject. In some societies, 1st cousin marriages are the preferred marriage, especially in Africa and South America. You may ask why this is so, simply the preferred marriage for a male is his mother's sister's daughter. In these societies, the male did not inherit his father's property but rather his wife inherited her mother's brother's property. Males did not inherit anything but titles, only daughters inherited property. Simply put, you always know who the mother is, but not always who was the father. This maternal lineage system insured that the property stayed within the clan and the inheritor was positively related. Another effect was if there were any defective genes in the family line, after several generations, the defective lines would die out. (loosely taken from South American Indians 302, UM) Frankly, I'm not ashamed of the 1st cousin marriages within my family, it is part of my heritage and if it had not happened, I wouldn't exist. To the best of my knowledge, there are no genetic recessives in my family line either, maybe the 1st cousin marriages were a blessing after all.......... Sincerely, Jim Harmon -- Jim Harmon mailto:jharmon@earthlink.net BROWN-Rowan & Mecklinburg Co. NC>Cobb Co. GA>Calhoun Co. AL COSTNER-Germany>Lincoln Co. NC>Union Dist. SC, Calhoun Co. MS>West>TX, OK, CA DOUGHERTY-Wythe Co. VA, Johnson Co. AL HARMON-Hampshire Co. MA>Bennington Co. VT>Lincoln Co. TN>Monroe Co. MS HARRIS-Surry Co. VA> Rockingham Co. NC HAYLES-Alabama MIZE-Patrick Co. VA POWELL-Tallapoosa Co. AL SLEMP/SLIMP-Wythe Co. VA>Johnson Co. TN UPCHURCH-Greene Co. AL>MS

    01/22/1998 01:19:43
    1. [NCORANGE-L] Mayo/Sherrod
    2. Elizabeth Chatterjee
    3. Looking for anyone familiar with these dead end lines: I have Jane Eliza Mayo, born 1829 in Martin (?) Co. TN, died 1897 in Springhill TN. She married Henry Skipwith Taylor in Granville Co. in 1846. Her parents were F. W. Mayo and Maniza Sherrod who would have resided in Martin or Granville Co They would have been born around 1800. Thanks Elizabeth Graham Chatterjee

    01/22/1998 10:34:39
    1. [NCORANGE-L] William ANDREW Orange Co. NC Will
    2. MS LOUISE T OVERTON
    3. Orange Co. NC Will Book E Page 120 Written 26 May 1826 Proved Aug Court 1826 William ANDREW wife: Hannah...west end of land joining Joseph THOMPSON'S sons: Isaac ANDREW, Henry ANDREW, John ANDREW, Robert ANDREW, Samuel ANDREW, William ANDREW, James ANDREW, Aaron ANDREW daughters: Hannah ANDREW and Sarah ANDREW grandaughter: Olive NEWLIN grandson: William ANDREW son of John ANDREW Exe: son Isaac ANDREW and son-in-law Nathaniel NEWLIN Wit: Joseph MARSHILL and Thomas THOMPSON

    01/22/1998 08:59:05