This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VUB.2ACE/344.349.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Leomond, Helen's mother and my mother were sisters. We both are related to Pettifords, and Helen is also related to them through her father's side. I believe I gave you that information some time in the past. In order for you to establish a tie you will need to (get yourself down to North Carolina) and find out more about your mother's family.