Hi Cynthia & other Andrews researchers, I would like to discuss a few problems I see with the ancestry chart you posted today - starting with Generation #4 and working back to Thomas Andrews. Perhaps a discussion will either clear up some errors - or enlighten me :-) I'll edit down your chart for ease of reading: ===================== Generation No. 4 8. Alexander Andrews, born Abt. 1761 in Brunswick Co., VA(?). He was the son of 16. John Andrews, Sr. and 17. Mary Scarborough. He married 9. Martha Moore 08 January 1798 in Brunswick Co., VA 9. Martha Moore, born Bef. 1778 (Source: Guess.). She was the daughter of 18. Thomas Moore. Children of Alexander Andrews and Martha Moore are: i. Seth Andrews, born 1784 ii. Edmund Andrews, born 1794 in NC ; married Priscilla Hancock 4 iii. Wilson Andrews, born 1796 in NC; died 1848 m. Mary G. ============================== While I've seen the marriage bond of an Alexander Andrews to 21-year old Martha Moore, dated 8 Jan 1798, in Brunswick - is there any way to know that it was Alexander, b. 1761, son of John? I've seen that Alexander was in Montgomery Co. as early as January, 1795 & surely, by 1797 from land records. Do you think he became a widower in Montgomery Co., and traveled back to Brunswick in 1798 to remarry young Martha Moore? Whether Martha Moore was Alexander's wife or not -- we must rule out Martha (m. 1798) as being the mother of Seth (1784), Edmund (1794) and Wilson (1796) In addition, to the 3 sons listed above, I feel that my 3rd GGF, Sterling Andrews, b. c1785, was also a son of Alexander Andrews & unknown wife. Also, Anderson Andrews, who is shown in the Montgomery Co. Heritage book as being the son of John Andrews is in error, because Anderson Andrews bequeathed land to his children, stating the land was his interest in the estate of "my father Alexander Andrews at his death". Anderson was born c1779; died 1857. Anderson removed to Stewart Co., TN c1805, and is listed in the 1830 U.S. Census for Stewart Co., TN as having been born 1771-1780. Also listed in the same age category in the 1830 census are David Andrews & James Andrews. From your chart, you place James, b. 1776 as a son of John, which could be correct; however, there must have been 2 David Andrews: (1) son of John & born c1754, who married Elizabeth King in 1787, Brunswick; and (2) David Andrews, b. c1771-1780, who resided in Stewart Co., TN, and I feel is most likely another son of Alexander Andrews. ================================= Generation No. 5 16. John Andrews, Sr. born Abt. 1740 in VA; died Aft. 1789. He was the son of 32. Joseph John Andrews and 33. Lucretia Tharp. He married 17. Mary Scarborough. Children of John Andrews and Mary Scarborough are: 8 i. Alexander Andrews, born Abt. 1761 in Brunswick Co., VA(?); married Martha Moore 08 January 1798 in Brunswick Co., VA. ii. Anderson Andrews, born Abt. 1765 in Brunswick Co., VA(?); died in Stewart Co., TN iii. John Andrews, Jr., born Abt. 1768 ; married Mary Edwards in 1787, Brunswick; born Abt. 1770. iv. George Andrews, born Abt. 1776; died in Stewart Co., TN v. James Andrews, born Abt. 1776 ; died in Stewart Co., TN vi. Lucretia Andrews , born 1778; died 06 June 1870 in Montgomery , NC; married William Melba Scarborough 20 April 1794 ; born 20 September 1764 ; died 06 January 1824 in Mt. Gilead, Montgomery Co., NC vii. Sally Andrews born Abt. 1781 ; died 07 July 1855 Montgomery Co., NC; married Samuel Clark; died Bef. 1850 viii. David Andrews, born Abt. 1754; died Aft. 1804 in Stewart Co., TN ; married (1) Rebecca Turbyfill Bef. January 1786; born Abt. 1754 ; died Bet. January 1786 - October 1787; married (2) Elizabeth King 29 Oct 1787 in Brunswick Co., VA ; born Abt. 1767 ========================================== Generation No. 6 32. Joseph John Andrews, born 1725 ; died Aft. 1789 He was the son of 64. Thomas Andrews. He married 33. Lucretia Tharp in Brunswick Co., VA. 33. Lucretia Tharp, born Abt. 1720. She was the daughter of 66. ? Tharp. Child of Joseph Andrews and Lucretia Tharp is: 16 i. John Andrews, Sr., born Abt. 1740 in VA; died Aft. 1789; married Mary Scarborough ==================== Cynthia, you had previously sent me the 1789 deeds for John Andrews, Sr., stating clearly that Solomon Tharp was the maternal uncle of John Andrews. I just recently found another Brunswick deed that seems to muddy the waters: Dated 23 Feb 1746, wherein Nicholas Proctor gifts 100 acres for love & affection to "my loving Son in Law Joseph Andrew of Surry County"? This land was located at the spring branch adjoining Capt. William BROWN. Sixteen years later, 28 June 1762, Joseph John Andrews & William BROWN jointly sold land in Brunswick, adjoining Brown, with Lucretia Andrews relinquishing her dower rights. As you know, there are other charts floating about that show Joseph's wife to be Elizabeth Proctor, daughter of Nicholas & Priscilla [Rogers] Proctor of Brunswick. Could it be that Joseph's mother was widowed and remarried Nicholas Proctor - thus, making Joseph a stepson (aka son in law) of Proctor? Could we be dealing with 2 Josephs: (1) Joseph John Andrews and (2) Joseph Andrews? On the other hand, if Joseph was married to the daughter of Proctor, during 1746, became a widower & remarried to Lucretia Tharp by deed date of 1762, then Lucretia wouldn't be the mother of John Andrews. ================================= Generation No. 7 64. Thomas Andrews, born Abt. 1700. Child of Thomas Andrews is: 32 i. Joseph John Andrews, born 1725; died Aft. 1789; married Lucretia Tharp in Brunswick Co., VA. ================================== From the 1746 deed to Joseph Andrews, it shows him to be a resident of Surry County. Why have you discounted Robert Andrews (b. 1663; d. 1726, Surry Co., VA) as being Joseph's father? Robert is purported to be the son of Thomas Andrews. However, this cannot be the same Thomas Andrews if yours was born c1700; and Robert was born 1663. Any comments or clarifications you or anyone else can give me regarding these questions, would be very much appreciated. Francie Lane flane@otn.net