Folks, Just got this today. Don't think we have been affected so far and lets hope it stays that way. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Listmaster <listmaster@rootsweb.com> To: <LISTADMINS-ANNOUNCE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: [IMPORTANT] RootsWeb Upgrading to New > Beginning Monday, 10 June 2002, RootsWeb will begin the complex and > time-consuming process of upgrading our servers to new hardware. > > o What does this mean for you? Well, it means some servers will be > unavailable during this time unavailable and we are asking for your > patience. > > For up-to-date information about the different resources, you can > visit http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ as the move progresses. > > o List Administrators: When the time comes to move list servers, > we will be halting operation on the machine to complete the move. > We expect to have the machines down the least amount of time > possible. No mail will be sent from or posted to your mailing > lists. We do not expect to lose any messages. > > o Board Administrators: Nothing, unless your board happens to be > gatewayed to a mailing list then the information for list > administrators apply. > > o Web Pages: FTP will be down so that changes can't be made to > pages until everything is working correctly on the new servers. > There will be a short time that the pages will not be available as > the transfer takes place. > > Thank you for your patience and understanding while we go through a > few "growing pains." > > > -- > > Vicki Lindsay Thauvin > RootsWeb Staff > vicki@rootsweb.com >

TO: Sarah Keesee Olde Mecklenburg Genealogical Society. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncomgs/ > Would someone please post the snail mail address of the Olde Mecklenburg Genealogical Society? I lost the message which included this when having trouble with computer. > Thank you, > Sarah > lydiap@salisbury.net > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sarah, How about P.O. Box 32453, Charlotte, NC 28232 Webpage at www.rootsweb.com/~ncomgs Regards, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Keesee <lydiap@salisbury.net> To: <NCMECKLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: [NCMECKLE-L] Heritage book > Would someone please post the snail mail address of the Olde Mecklenburg Genealogical Society? I lost the message which included this when having trouble with computer. > Thank you, > Sarah > lydiap@salisbury.net > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Would someone please post the snail mail address of the Olde Mecklenburg Genealogical Society? I lost the message which included this when having trouble with computer. Thank you, Sarah lydiap@salisbury.net

Julie Perry wrote: I need ..a copy of the will of JOHN MC RAVEN. ----Most original wills are on file at NC Archives at Raleigh. ----My first check for McRaven found no will. Later, it struck me to check under McCraven and and found a will listed for John McCraven probated May of 1833, and naming only a daughter, Elzabeth Hood, who received the old plantation; but it does say that an entry of 80 A is to sold and the proceeds used to pay my debts, and the remainder is to be divided equally among my SONS and DAUS., who are not named. Wit: J.M. Hood and James Parks. I did not know if the 1833 date was compatible with your research, so I provided the info for your considertion. Separate references show other McCravens: Evaline McCraven and a Jannet (Miller) McCraven. Also found is a will for Evaline McRaven, and an Adam McRaven is found as a surveyor in Mecklenburg Co. Lee Ramsey > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

JeanGayle@aol.com wrote: > Can someone please tell me, if there are estate papers in the NC Archives in Raleigh... ----The original wills are on file at the archives...copies at Charlotte. >for John Callen who left a will in Mecklenburg Co. in 1825, mentioning "all his children" but naming none. I just need a "Yes or No" answer. ----that's correct, he did not name his children, only his wife is named. Lee Ramsey > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Can someone please tell me, if there are estate papers in the NC Archives in Raleigh, for John Callen who left a will in Mecklenburg Co. in 1825, mentioning "all his children" but naming none. I just need a "Yes or No" answer. Many thanks. Jean Gayle

Hope someone knows the answer..... I have a Dunning Casiah, Dunum Cuzine and a Duncan Keziah.  All three last names are the same. Then there is a Dunnan Presley.  These two families were associated in early NC and SC, possibly early in MD as well. The name Dunnan is spelled consistently in the Presley family.  As you can see it has many spellings in the other family. Was there a family of *DUNNAN'S*?  The Presley's were also associated with the Helms in early NC and SC as were the Keziah's. Is DUNNAN a family name from German?  Presley is Preslar and Helms is Hellums also from Germany.  Could the Dunnam be Duncan or Dunning?  or whatever???? HELP. Thanks, Joy

The above surnames were often interchanged in the late 1700's and early 1800's in the Carolinas. Because of this, finding the correct info on my ancestors is a real "brick wall". My ancestors, William and Margaret (?) Irby/Yearby, bought land in Anson Co. NC in 1760 on the Pee Dee river, on or near Youngs Island, and sold the same land in 1767to John Stevens. Althrough the land endenture text, he was referred to as William Irby, however, it was signed William Yearby and Margaret Yearby. I have been unable to find his parents by the surname Yearby/Yerby. I am wondering if he was really from an Irby heritage and his surname later changed to Yearby/Yerby. The list of children that I have for Wm. (b. about 1730) and Margaret were: John (b. 1768) who married Rhoda Cole (1775), d/o John Cole. Henry (No other info.) William, Jr. who married Mary "Polly" Laney, d/o George Laney . Everette (b. 1762) who married Sarah McMillian, d/o James McMillian. James who married (?). (James lived in Mecklenburg Co., NC in 1800 (census). James had a son, Stephen. Martha who married Ardon Ross.(No other info) Elizabeth (b. 1775) who married William Shepherd, Jr. Margaret (No other info) Burrell/Burwell (b. 1780) married Ann. R. Collins. (Burrell being s/o Wm. and Margaret is questionable.) ANY info on William and Margaret Irby/Yearby/Yerby or any of their children will be appreciated. I would be very grateful if any descendants of these families would contact me. Hildred Carlson ra-n-hacar@juno.com

Dear Friends and members I thought you'd might like to know about this upcoming event See ya there Sheila --------------------------- BATTLE OF RAMSOUR'S MILL June 8th & 9th, 2002, Saturday & Sunday Saturday, June 8th, 2002 Opening Ceremony: 10:00 am on Saturday Morning Emcee: Kim Brattain, WSOC T.V. News Anchor Speaker: Honorable N.C. Representative Daniel W. Barefoot Lunch BBQ Plates, Free?Free? Free Living History Encampment Presented by: Locke's Militia Guilford Militia, Over The Mountain Men and Others. Portraying Life as is was in the 18th Century. Drilling, Firing Muskets and Cannon, Medicine, Cooking, Candle Making, and Games. 2:00 pm Ceremony And Laying Of Wreaths At The Mass Grave Site By the North Carolina Society Of The Sons Of The American Revolution 3:00 pm Ceremony Honoring The Warlick Brothers Who Fell In The Battle Along With Israel Sain. Seating Will Be Available. 7:30 pm Saturday Evening: Ghost Walk Around The Battlefield With Lincoln County Historical Coordinator, Darrell Harkey (Bring A Light And Wear Good Walking Shoes. Tour Lasts About 2 Hours.) Sunday, June 9th, 2002 9:00 am Camp Opens To The Public 11:00 am Old Fashioned Church Service At The Mass Grave, Site. Conducted by Rev. Jim Campbell of Guilford Militia.. Location: Beside the Lincolnton High School Football Stadium, Just Follow the Signs. Everything is Free. Bring the Kids for A Fun Filled Day with educational value unequaled. Hosted by: North Carolina Society Sons Of The American Revolution. The National President Dr. Larry McClanahan Will Be in Attendance. Jacob Borney Chapter, Daughters Of The American Revolution and Lincoln County Historical Cordinator Darrell Harkey. A Special Welcome to the Warlick Family Reunion Being Held in Conjunction With This Great American Historical Event. For more information contact Darrell Harkey at (704) 736-8442(W) or (704) 732-1221(H) _____________________________________________________ __ WebKorner Internet Services - http://www.webkorner.com/

You might try these sites. Deciphering Old Handwriting http://www.amberskyline.com/treasuremaps/oldhand.html Early English Handwriting http://www.rootsweb.com/~genepool/oldalpha.htm Name and Word Spellings http://www.familytreemaker.com/00000015.html Searching Old Records - Reading Old Handwriting and Looking for Names http://members.aol.com/AdamCo9991/genealogytips9.htm Good luck, Kay Gail Honeycutt wrote: > > Ok Guys, > > I have a question for all you military scholars out there. I have a > document that I am trying to "date". It looks like it is a thousand > years old but as we all know, we can't go by looks! It is riddled with > silverfish holes but I can make out a name on the front and a part of a > word....."volution" ( It also looks like a capital R at the beginning > of that word but can't make it all out). Under that word is the word: > "Reviews" or "Reviers". > > The document contains 33 lines of marching orders or formation type > drills. Here are some sample lines: > > 1st. Form Close Collums on the right the right in Frunt > 2nd. Deploy Collums to the Left By and Eshalon Direct and Form Line > 14th. Battalions will Wheel the Line to the Left on the Eight Plattoon > by ?? > 21st. Reduce the Square and Form grandivisions > 23rd. Reduce the Crofs and Form grandivisions > 31st Battalions will pass adefile from the right in read of the Left > by files in succefsion. > 32nd Manuel Exercise > 33rd Sword Exercise > > I have picked random lines to quote showing the use of "f" for "s" in > many ocassions. Was that still a practice in the time of the Civil War? > Can any one tell me just by looking at the above wording whether we are > looking at a Civil War drill or a Revolutionary Drill? > > A million thanks in advance, > Gail Flowe Honeycutt > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 6/2/2002 12:32:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time, gailhon@earthlink.net writes: > Was that still a practice in the time of the Civil War? My great grandparents married in 1862 in Indiana.. The scribe put her surname as you mention.. Her name was MOSS, but it appears to be Mops on the record.. with the double ss.. Good Luck, Ellie S.

Ok Guys, I have a question for all you military scholars out there. I have a document that I am trying to "date". It looks like it is a thousand years old but as we all know, we can't go by looks! It is riddled with silverfish holes but I can make out a name on the front and a part of a word....."volution" ( It also looks like a capital R at the beginning of that word but can't make it all out). Under that word is the word: "Reviews" or "Reviers". The document contains 33 lines of marching orders or formation type drills. Here are some sample lines: 1st. Form Close Collums on the right the right in Frunt 2nd. Deploy Collums to the Left By and Eshalon Direct and Form Line 14th. Battalions will Wheel the Line to the Left on the Eight Plattoon by ?? 21st. Reduce the Square and Form grandivisions 23rd. Reduce the Crofs and Form grandivisions 31st Battalions will pass adefile from the right in read of the Left by files in succefsion. 32nd Manuel Exercise 33rd Sword Exercise I have picked random lines to quote showing the use of "f" for "s" in many ocassions. Was that still a practice in the time of the Civil War? Can any one tell me just by looking at the above wording whether we are looking at a Civil War drill or a Revolutionary Drill? A million thanks in advance, Gail Flowe Honeycutt

Sheila, After reviewing my last post, I discovered I omitted the word "son" in the James Waddle deed dated in 1796. At the close of the deed the exact wording as follows: "...being the land conveyed to David Waddle then to his son the grantor..." (the grantor in this deed is James Waddle) Lee Ramsey

Hi Sheila, You have been busy with your research! I am not of the Robert Ramsey family, I just lean on him from time to time - he was "a gentleman and a scholar" indeed. Let's look at the water courses. Those creeks in question which remained in Mecklenburg Co. are tributaries of the Catawba River, being East of the Catawba...and there are TWO McDowell Creeks and at least TWO Miller Creeks to survey. 1. McDOWELL Cr. E of Catawba River - located just South of Davidson Cr. in Northern Mecklenburg near present day Iredell Co., formerly Rowan Co. Joseph McDowell obtained a land patent in 1749 for 400 acres on what was originally called "Rocky Cr." (then Anson Co.) "that runs into Catawba river below Davison's creek (Davidson Cr.) about a mile above the Indian path crosses the sd. creek." The headwaters of McDowell Cr. are close to the former Davidson Cr. Davidson Cr. is a part of present day Lake Norman, as well as Miller Cr. and Ramsey Cr., all former tributaries of the Catawba in Northern Mecklenburg. (More on the Miller Creeks later) Davidson Cr. is where John CATHY settled after he came from Ireland to VA to claim his brother, William's, land in the Shenandoah Valley. After discovering the family had gone to NC, John Cathey took up land on the east side of the Catawba River near the mouth of Davidson Cr. in present day Mecklenburg Co. (Carolina Cradle: p. 38 & footnote # 85). I have not searched the VA or NC records for the details. Another John Cathy was on that part of Rocky River which remained in Rowan Co. In 1779, William Waddle purchased 450 A in Mecklenburg Co. on McDowell's Cr., boarded by Dennis McFall, David Waddle & Widow Duckworth. This is McDowell's Cr. just South of former Davidson Cr. in Mecklenburg Co. William Waddle is still found there in the 1790 census as head of household, with 3 male children under 16, 3 female children and 1 female head of house. From this census data and land records we know that William Waddle would have been born 1753 - 1758. [legal age to marry 21, and no children over 16; and legal age to buy land 21]. Was there another William Waddle family enumerated in the NC census of 1790? Only one William Waddle found in NC for the 1790 US Census - Mecklenburg Co., NW section. When and how did William and Jane Waddle dispose of their land in Rowan Co? (Did Wm & Jane have a Wm?) The # 7 for that district is an arbitrary number, as it was the seventh section (NW) of Mecklenburg Co. the enumerate visited, and the visitation route matches closely those of the "Capt's Districts" (tax purposes and militia districts) which is probably what the enumerator was following. 2. McDOWELL Cr. - found on the N. side of Broad River, which covers present day York Co. and Cherokee Co., SC and Cleveland Co., NC. (formerly Mecklenburg & Tryon). James Simral & wf. Violet of Meck. convey to Jennet Irvin of Rowan Co. 200 A on N. side of Broad River on McDowel's Creek, including the fork of the creek granted to James Simral 1767. (became Tyron Co. in 1769) In 1777, William Waddel and wf. Jane of "Rowan Co., NC" sold to James Miller of Tryon 200 A on McDowell's Cr., originally granted to Jacob Simerl in 1767. Wm & Jane's deed was approved in Tyron Co. Ct. in 1778, so this land is in Tyron Co. Also in 1777, Jacob Simerl purchased 300 A in Tryon Co. from Benj'n Shaw, being approved in Tyron Co. Ct. in 1778, following Wm & Jane's approval. 1. MILLER'S Cr. - In a 1764 NC land patent to Andrew Downs the land is described as 200 acres in Mecklenburg on Davison's (Davidson) Creek and Millers Creek, and being near Widow Givens, joining a Dutchman's land. Their was one early settler (1749) known as the Dutchman, whose land was directly across the Catawba. He was John Killian on Dutchman's or Killian's Cr. (W side Catawba), with the upper part of the same creek known as Ramsey's Cr. This area was taken into Tryon Co., in 1769 and Lincoln Co. in 1779. This Ramsey's Cr. was named after John Ramsey of Martic Township, Lancaster Co., PA. John Ramsey bought his land from Andrew Killen, and Andrew Killen's land remained adjacent to the Catawba River. In 1777, Andrew Downs and wf. Ann of Meck. sold the land on Miller's Cr. to James Maxwell. So Miller's Cr. is still in Mecklenburg Co. in 1777, as opposed to Tryon Co. This Miller's Cr. would be included within the waters of Lake Norman. There were several land owners on Miller Cr. found in Dist. # 7 NW section of Mecklenburg Co., 1790 census: William Waddle, John Wiley, Samuel Irvin, William Hill and Amos Alexander, who also owned land on Armour's Cr. This falls in line with the Davidson Cr. area. There is a Mecklenburg Co. court case filed in 1774: Excrs. of Wyly vs. William Waddle and Henry Walker. The court minutes of the proceedings may reveal some family information. Ramsey Cr. (E. side Catawba) - was below Davidson Cr., probably named after the family of Col. Francis A. Ramsay, who married a dau. of John McKnitt Alexander. Ramsey Cr. now part of Lake Norman in Mecklenburg Co. 2. MILLER's Cr. - This Miller's Cr. was E of the Catawba River (Mecklenburg Co.), and may have been a small tributary of the waters of Armour's Mill Cr. or Armour's Cr., which led to the Catawba. This was in the area of the Steele Creek Settlement, and this "Miller's Cr" appears also lost to history. It may have been named after James Miller, who obtained a land grant on Amour's Cr. in 1765. This may be the same James Miller, who bought the land in Tryon Co. from William and Jane Waddle. Jame Miller did move closer to the Catawba in Tryon Co., but I cannot recal the creek. (I've seen Jane's name "Jean" also in a land deed - the names seem interchangeable then). In 1767 Amos Alexander of Meck. conveyed to Benjamin Cohorn (Cohron) 100 A on E side Catawba on waters of Armour's Mill branch at a corner of Ramsey and Miller, as witnessed by John Cathey. More convincing is the following deed record: in 1796, James Waddle sold 200 A on the E side of Catawba, adj. Jonathan Potts, Reece Morgan, Thos. Erwin and Will Graham, "being the land conveyed to David Waddle, then to the (this) grantor (James Waddle)." This is fruitful by not only identifying James Waddle as a son of David Waddle, but the land is also adj. to Reece Morgan, who was a cousin to William Ramsey, who held land on Armour's Mill Cr. This ties in Miller's Cr., Armour's Mill Cr., the Waddles and Ramsey's to the same location. William Ramsey of Armour's Cr. purchased 200 A on the Catawba River (Armour's Cr.) from Rees/Reece Morgan, who left his will in 1776, bequeathing all his estate to his cousin William Ramsey. Wit: Wm. Graham, Archibald Ramsey and John Robertson. Archibald Ramsey was also a kinsman. The William and Archibald Ramsey families removed to GA. The Mecklenburg Co. records show that William Waddle owned land on McDowell Cr. and Miller's Cr.#1 and #2; and there are other deeds showing more conveyances for these tracts. It seems highly probable that David Waddle, the father, held the Miller's Cr. # 2 land first and by tradition conveyed it to his senior son, James Waddle. PS My ancestors were Robert Boyd and William Ramsey on the Long Creek and the Gum Branch. Robert Boyd was on the Gum Branch by 1759, and his dau. Agnes/Nancy Boyd married William Ramsey. John Boyd, Nancy's brother, was with them, and he eventually moved across the Catawba into Tryon/Lincoln Co. The were also allied families with the Sullivans in the Long Cr. Settlement. The Ramsey's removed to Rutherford Co., TN c1802. Lee Ramsey Dallas, GA In 1780 David Waddle obtained a 40 A tract on Miller's Cr. adjacent Waddle (himself), William Ramsey and Amos Alexander; and a 60 A tract on Miller's Cr. adjacent Wm. Graham and Samuel Duckworth.

Hi Jean, Thank you for your comments. I do have several references to John Thomas/ John Thomas, Jr./ Robert Thomas/ Gillahott(?)Thomas/ and Gill Shaw Thomas, who are listed in "North Carolina Land Grants in South Carolina" by Brent H. Holcomb. If you do not have these references I will forward them on to you. I have not looked at them yet, but they do cover the counties of Bladen Co., Anson Co., Mecklenburg Co., and old Tryon Co., NC. (Tryon Co. was abolished in 1779, as Gov. Tryon did not support the cause of the Rev. War.) Lee Ramsey

Hi Sheila, Your query provides that William Waddle of Iredell Co. or Mecklenburg Co., NC married Jane Cathey, and you want to determine the parentage of William Waddle within the time frame of 1777-1820. Broaden the scope of your search, so as not to focus on William and Jane alone. Try to find as many connections and links with the extended family, close friends and neighbors. Never an easy task, as this requires you to establish their county of residence. In this respect, geography is the key to genealogy, and should be an primary consideration. Another important factor is their migration and settlement patterns. Usually a family did not accomplish their migration alone, but would be accompanied by brothers, sisters, parents, neighbors, etc. Sometimes family members followed later to the same location The Waddles' settlement location after NC would be helpful. Were there extended family members with them where they resettled? Can there movements be traced in the census records? By land records? Census Records: A William Waddle is found in the 1790 US Census of Mecklenburg Co. NC in the North West Section, south of the Rowan Co. NC line. His household was enumerated with himself as head of household, 3 male childlren under 16, 3 female children and 1 female head of house, and 1 slave. Will Records: William H. Waddle - Appears to have died unmarried in Mecklenburg Co. His will, probated Apr 1847, listed two brothers, David F. Waddell and Alexander Waddell;two nephews, Thomas B. and John D. Cowan; and a friend, Thomas P.G. Farris. The sole exr. was S.H. Elliott. Archibald Waddell - Archibald Waddell also appears to have died unmarried in Mecklenburg Co. His will was probated Oct 1864, naming a nephew, George Cathey (whose wife was Margaret), giving him 3 tracts of land, adjacent to Henry Cathey and Mary Grier; and 3 acres adj. the home tract and (next to) A.F. Sadler; he left 24 acres to nephew Wm. Cathey adj. to Margaret Grier and T.J. Walker. The exrs. were George and Margaret Cathey. Smith Waddle - a nephew of Mary Smith, who names him in her will probated Aug 1817, providing that he receive all her "western land in the Tennessee Valley if ever received." Mary Smith names other family members as follows: a sister Jane Waddle and her dau. Esther; a sister Elizabeth Mason; a sister Nelly Barkley; nephew John Little; Henry and Andy Cathey, sons of Alexr. Cathey, Jr.; niece Nanny Cathey and her brother, Archibald Pinkney Cathey; Wm. C. Cathey; nephew John Cathey; niece Easter Cathey. Exrs. were friends John Little and Alexander Cathey, Jr. Tax Records: The tax assessment list for the year 1807 shows James Waddle being taxed for 147acres, 1 WP (white person-himself), and 1 BP (black person-slave); along with William Waddell taxed for 2 BP, but not as a property owner; and George Waddell for 120 acres and 1 WP. The 1799 tax list shows James Waddell being taxed only as a WP. Land Records: 1767, Andrew McMillen sf (of) Mecklenburg Co., NC. deeded 300 acres to Joseph Waddell on the W (est) side (of) Cataba (Catawba)...(adjacent to) Colonel Osburns. [This refers back to my post last date regarding the McMullens/McMillens] NOTE: the land immediately west of Catawba River starting in 1769 became Tryon Co., NC, until 1779, when it became Lincoln Co., NC. (now you have two more counties to consider). NOTE: A William and Jane Waddell are found in old Tryon Co., NC by a deed of sale which was proved in court 1 Nov 1777, "from William & Jane Waddell. (Court Minutes 1769-1779). The actual deed states William Waddel and wf. Jane of "Rowan Co., NC" to James Miller of Tryon. This land was on N. side Broad River on McDowells Creek. William and Jane Waddell apparently signed their names William Waddel and Jane Wadle. There was an unreadable name as a witness who signed with a german signature. [How did Wm. and Jane Waddel obtain this land? Is there a link between William and Joseph Waddel?] Now you have William and Jane Waddel as residents of Rowan Co., NC, which was created from Anson Co., NC. The early Anson Co. NC records show one Waddle, who was referred to as "Capt Waddle" in a land deed as being adjacent to Peter Cenestre on "fork of Wildcat." This must be Capt. Hugh Waddell, of Belmont, Blanden Co., NC, who was sent to Salisbury (Rowan Co.) to hold the Catawba and Cherokee Indians in check in 1754. In 1755 he obtained a lot #13 in the east square adjoining John Dunn and established headquarters in Salisbury. NOTE: The Rowan County land adjacent the Northern line of Mecklenburg Co., NC became a part of Iredell Co., NC. The close proximity of William Waddel in the 1790 census to Rowan, later Iredell, Co. NC, and with William and Jane Waddel found as residence of Rowan Co. NC via the land deeds, Rowan and Iredell Co. records need to be researched. Best regards, Lee Ramsey

Well, I had such astute and informative answers to my "chain bearer" question, I'd like to pose another. In old wills are a number of words that relate to the conveyance or sale of land. I remember some from my course in law school on wills and estates. However, the print is so faint I cannot read it, or I do not recognize some words in a family will from North Carolina. Here are the words usually found for land transfer: Given, granted, bargained, sold, aliened, conveyed, confirmed. Here are ones I found for or connected to land descriptions: wood ways, water courses, appurtenances, profits, remainders, premises,. Can you supply others that may help me make out the mystery words? Thanks, Sheila Anthony

Edmund Gunter was the inventor of his "chain". G. Frady "The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see." --- Sir Winston Churchill, 1874-1965

G. Frady wrote: "A chain usually had 100 links. One link equaled 7.92 inches. A chain was 66 ft long or 4 poles. Poles were also called rods or perches. They were 16.5 ft long." REPLY: thanks for the definition on the length of a chain. My reference calls this the "Gunter's chain" with no mention of who Gunter was. There is also a reference to a less common chain of 100 links called the "engineer's chain" each one foot long. I have no idea where that is used. Lee Ramsey Lee Ramsey > > "The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to > see." > --- Sir Winston Churchill, 1874-1965 > > > --part1_122.11e5a014.2a26f617_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: <Boggit@aol.com> > From: Boggit@aol.com > Full-name: Boggit > Message-ID: <9d.2895d910.2a26f4c8@aol.com> > Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 23:21:44 EDT > Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE-L] "Chain bearers" > To: beryla@mindspring.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 > > They carried the chains during surveying i.e. measured the survey line. A > chain usually had 100 links. One link equaled 7.92 inches. A chain was 66 > ft long or 4 poles. Poles were also called rods or perches. They were 16.5 > ft long. > G. Frady > > "The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to > see." > --- Sir Winston Churchill, 1874-1965 > > > --part1_122.11e5a014.2a26f617_boundary-- > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >