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    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Re: Cemeteries & Dowsing
    2. David & Virginia Huffines
    3. I appreciated very much the article on cemeteries. I am glad to see the strong recommendation for a recording by geographical location within the cemetery. [Too often, people go to all the trouble of recording on index cards the inscriptions on tombstones and then sort these alphabetically. That way you have no knowledge that Mary Brown is buried next to John Smith.] An index is helpful but by all means tell the researchers who is buried near whom. It is not absolute proof, but it sure does help in knowing where to look. About Dowsing - I understand: - metal rods bent into L shape - hold in front of you at 3 & 9 o'clock like a steering wheel. However, does any one know: [I'm dense!] - Is the rod you are holding held vertical or horizontal? - In what direction is the other part of the L pointing? Is metal preferred over wood? "Divining Rods" used for water at usually wood. Good Searching - Good Finding - Good Luck! David Huffines Searching HOFHEINZ/HUFFINES/HOFFHINES/HUFFHINES/ HOFFEIN/et.al.and WILLIAMSON, WAKEFIELD, UNDERWOOD, PAISLEY, SIKES, LIPSCOMB

    06/30/2002 08:03:13
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Cemeteries and how they are layed out:
    2. I thought this article was interesting. It came from Renee on the Smith L List. Just thought I would pass it along. Betty Heryford The following is the complete article that the information for dowsing came from.  Yes, I wrote it.  I am the President of a small cemetery collection group with big hopes.  The Cemetery Collection Process. Written May 2002 by Renee L. Waring of ICM How to number the graves: Go to the front of the cemetery with the names facing you.  Folks are usually buried with their heads facing west and their feet facing east, I suppose it is because when Jesus comes back again he will rise in the East and the dead will rise to greet him.  If some of the stones are facing the other way, the bodies were still buried in the row that the stones are in with the head to the West.  Go to the very left of the row.  This will be your first grave to record (see "Dowsing" below).  This grave is Number 1 in the Row of 1.  If it is in a family plot (which is usually marked with four small stones at each corner) you would list it with a Plot number.  Any other grave stones in that plot should have the same plot number, that way they can be recognized as being buried with those family members.  You continue to collected the rest of the cemetery in the same manner, always working left to right.  Some questions that may arise: 1) What if some rows are shorter than others? Answer: Check to see if there are unmarked graves.  Without the original grave layout plans the only way to tell without someone there that can tell you different is to dowse the ground.  More on that later.  If you find that there is an unmarked grave, then you will need to assign it a number.  You want the grave yard to work like a grid. 2) What if the grave yard is broken up into several areas? Answer: Break it into sections and give it a Section Letter such as A, B, C.  A road is something that would break it into sections A and Section B.  Use your best judgment on how it is to be broken up.  If the grave yard is divided into several sections, this is how your numbering system would go: The first grave in the first section:  Section A, Row 1, Number 1, Plot 1 The second one in the first sect:   Section A, Row 1, Number 2, Plot 1 The 15th grave in the 3rd sect:      Section C, Row 1, Number 15, Plot 28 I hope this makes sense. 3) What if someone asks me what I am doing? Answer: Let the local police department and newspaper know you are working in the area.  Perhaps you can get some coverage for your group.  If someone asks you what you are doing, tell them, then pump them for information.  That is how we found the single grave on the mountain in Clearfield County.  Folks that care enough to stop and ask you may just want to jump in to help as well.  Perhaps if you are working at a local church in their grave yard contact them before hand, they can get someone out there with some information who also wants to help.  It also lets them know you are there working.  They should appreciate the fact that you considered their feelings enough to notify them. 4) What if I find a grave yard that needs some upkeep? Answer: Find out what the local laws are first off.  Who is legally responsible for the upkeep?  Sometimes these folks are older and not in the shape to get out there to work on the graves and do not have the funding.  If this is the case, then suggest to them that possibly if you work together you can find a group (such as the Boy or Girl Scouts) that might help put the cemetery back into shape.  How do you find the owner?  If everything else fails, go to the local real-estate taxing department at the local court house and ask who owns the property.  Try to have an idea what the address is.  If you are not sure, go to the mapping department and ask them.  I have worked with both departments and either one could tell you. 5) Why take a walking stick? Answer: You can use it to push shrubs aside to see the stone.  You could use it to test the ground for holes.  You could use it to throw unwanted things into the bushes (creepy crawly things).  If you put a nail in the end, you could use it to see if there is a stone buried under the ground (which the care takers do, or time).  You could use it to lift a stone off the ground to see if there is writing on the other side.  Or you could use it to just walk with. 6) How do I read a partially illegible stone? Answer: This is a touchy subject.  There are several ways to try to read a stone that seems illegible.  You could try a mirror, you could try a digital camera looked through at different angles (try to put shadow on the letters as with the mirror), or you could try a piece of sidewalk chalk.  I have contacted the chalk company of the brand that we use, and they assure me that it will not damage the stones due to the fact that the substance that they use in the chalk is softer than the stone.  There is one type of stone that is very porous and I would not suggest using the chalk on and that is marble.  Unfortunately, during the years just before the Civil War and afterwards they used mostly marble.  Touch is the best way then.  I get down and finger the letters.  You will become accustomed to the feel of the letters and sometimes that is the easiest way.  You could say you are giving the stone the personal touch.  It certainly brings you closer to the one buried there. What is dowsing, and how do you do it?  Dowsing is what they have used in the past to identify sites where water could be found.  It is also a way to identify unmarked graves.  Don't ask how it works, just know that it does.  I know of a case out in Hendricks County Indiana that they wanted to build a road past the County Home that dated back into the 1800s but there was a cemetery in the way with many, many unmarked graves.  The authorities dowsed the ground to identify the graves, then dug them up and reburied them elsewhere. Justin Houser and I have both used this method to identify graves, and we have asked others who walked by to try it.  It does work, and surprises everyone.  This is what you do: Take two metal hangers and cut them so you have two pieces of metal shaped like an "L's."  Go out to the local grave yard and hold the rods out in front of you like you are holding a steering wheel in the 3 o'clock, 9 o'clock position but not tightly.  Walk across a row of graves that you know to be there.  As you walk, you will right away notice that the rods cross at the same intervals as you cross over each grave.  WOW!!!  How does this thing work?  I have no idea.  Now walk over a row of graves that has a few stones missing.  If there are graves there, you will again have the rods crossing at regular intervals.  Now, walk across a whole field of unmarked graves as I did in Osceola Mills in Clearfield County and you will be amazed!!!  There were the crossings at the same intervals as the rest of the marked cemetery.  The real shocker was when the rods didn't cross, but went violently outward!!  I asked Justin Houser what the heck that was.  I had never felt that kind of movement before, not with such force.  He said "water."  Amazing. If you would like to join the group, let me know. Sincerely, Renee L. Waring List Administrator for: www.internationalcemeterymonth.org/ http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/ICM-WGW   http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/WaringFamily ICM-WGW@smartgroups.com ICM Chat Room, to be used on special occasions: http://mercury.beseen.com/chat/rooms/q/19806 GEN-STORIES@rootsweb.com Waring Family Board Room:  http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/t/57567/ Subscribe to the ICM List at this address: <A HREF="mailto:ICM-WGW-subscribe@yahoogroups.com">ICM-WGW-subscribe@smartgroups.com Subscribe to the Waring List at this address: WaringFamily-subscribe@smartgroups.com</A> Peggy Memphis,Tenn

    06/29/2002 08:26:21
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] McCullough/ Modrell connection
    2. Debbjennings
    3. I am searching for any information pertaining to the families of McCullough and Modrell. They were known to migrate together and were in Mecklenburg county in the time frame of about 1780-1781. John Modrell died there and left a will naming his children and some of their husbands. It is thought that his daughter Margaret married John McCullough b. 6-17-1755. John and Margaret later migrated to Pulaski county KY and then Owen county IN. Anyone researching the Modrell/Moderell--McCullough in this area, I would like to correspond with. Debbie Jennings

    06/24/2002 01:59:05
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Nicholson, Black, Coan, Rhodes
    2. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who might have an interest in or connection with any of the following: William Moore Nicholson b. 1851 Chester SC d. 1955 Lincolnton NC married Emma Grace Nicholson (a cousin) who died after 1901 and before 1912 Their children were: William Moore Nicholson b. about 1901 in SC married Mabel Rhodes was living in Mecklenburg County in mid 1950's Sarah Nicholson b. about 1900 in SC believed to have been married twice (a Mr. Coan and James Black) was living in Crouse NC in 1955 at time of her father's death and was listed as Mrs. Sarah Black on his death certificate Will be happy to share what information I have with anyone who has an interest in this family. Thanks for your help, James Nicholson JNich57@aol.com

    06/23/2002 09:35:04
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Hoover
    2. Donna Johnson
    3. For those researching the Hoover family of Lincoln, Catawba, Gaston & Mecklenburg Cos., NC: Recently I uploaded updated information to my website. http://www.homestead.com/huver/ Follow the link to "Surnames" for new family group sheets. I will appreciate any input or corrections from descendants. Thanks... Donna Joy Johnson Charlotte, Mecklenburg Co., NC http://www.geocities.com/pawcreek.geo/

    06/20/2002 02:33:00
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Fw: Location of YOUNG'S ISLAND on the Pee Dee River in Carolinas
    2. Richard and Hildred A Carlson
    3. --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard and Hildred A Carlson <Ra-n-HaCar@juno.com> To: NCMECKLE-L@rootsweb Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:19:11 +0000 Subject: Location of YOUNG'S ISLAND on the Pee Dee River in Carolinas Message-ID: <20020618.201942.-461955.4.Ra-n-HaCar@juno.com> Looking for the location of Young's Island in what was Anson Co. NC in the late 1700's and early 1800's. There not be a present day location called Young's Island. If anyone has access to an old map of that area showing Youngs Island on the PeeDee River in Anson Co. NC or any of the counties that were created from Anson Co, I would be very grateful for info giving the county, cities or towns near the present day location of where Young's Island was once located. My gggg-great grandpaarents, William and Margaret were referred to in land transactions on the PeeDee river by the surnames Irby, Yearby, and Yerby. These surnames were often interchanged in that area in the time frame mentioned above. Brent H. Holcomb's book, "Anson County, NC Deed Abstracts - 1749-1766" in Vol. III records the following: Page 39: 25 July 1760 - 75 acres from Benjamin Smith of Anson Co. NC to William Yerly (Yerby), for 18 pounds proc. money.....land on S side Great Pee Dee....Aaron Smith's corner, Young's Island. Benjamin Smith (B), (Seal), Wit: David Dumas, William Snuggs (X), Richard Snuggs (R). Page 15: 3 May 1762, Aaron Smith of Anson Co. NC, to William Irby of same, for 40 pounds proc. money.....land on S side Pee Dee above the mouth of Brown Creek, 180 acres. Aaron Smith (Seal), Wit: David Dumas, Benjamin Smith, Anthony Hutchings. Page 83: 21 November 1763, William Irby of Anson Co. NC, to Randolph Cheek of same, for 50 pounds proc. money.....land on S side Pee Dee, Brown Creek,180 acres .....William Irby (Seal). Wit: David Dumas, Benjamin Smith(B), Macagah Pickett. "Anson Co. NC Abstracts of Deeds, Deed Book H#1" Page 21-- 24 February 1867 William Yearby (Irby) and wife, Margaret, to John Stevens, all of Anson County, for 80 pounds, 75 acres on south side of PeeDee, beginning at Young's Island on the River bank.....Aaron Smith's corner. Proven in open court April term 1767. Abraham Belyeu, Robert Snuggs, John Cheek. (through out the text of the indenture for this property, William was referred to with surname IRBY, however, the indenture was signed William Yearby and Margaret Yearby.) Maybe the above land transactions and peolpe involved will help in locating Young's Island. I cannot go to the Anson Co., NC area to do research on this.Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hildred Carlson

    06/19/2002 03:39:31
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] (no subject)
    2. Otis Sanford "Skip" Skipper <A HREF="http://www.legacy.com/charlotte/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=369438">View/Sign Guest Book</A> Mr. Otis Sanford "Skip" Skipper, 84, of Mint Hill, NC, passed away Friday, June 14, 2002, at Presbyterian Hospital. Otis was a native Charlottean, born July 19, 1917, on Cedar Street to the late Florence Hunsucker Skipper and William Sanford Skipper. He was employed by Southern Bell for 45 years, retiring in 1982 as District Forecast Manager of the Winston-Salem (NC) District. He was a proud product of Third Ward Elementary, Alexander Junior High and Central High Schools. Early in life, Otis developed a love of sports, starting with competitions on the playgrounds, which were the center of activity for children. He excelled as a swimmer, basketball player, handball player and golfer. While Skip was a student at Alexander Junior High, the Charlotte News frequently referred to him as "that redheaded Skipper boy." Later at Central, he played for the legendary Coach Bob Allen and from then on was one of "Bob Allen's boys." In 1948, he received the trophy as best local player. In 1935, he played in the first interracial basketball game at Johnson C. Smith University. Under the tutelage of Mr. Carl Link, Director of the YMCA, he became a championship swimmer, Mr. Link's assistant and taught many young men in Charlotte to swim. A dear friend, Eddie Sloan, introduced him to handball and Otis was successful in winning championships in Charlotte, Columbia, Charleston, and Knoxville. He served as Handball Commissoner for 20 years. When he was transferred to Winston-Salem he became a great supporter for Wake Forest University. He served as the Sportsman's Club and one the Groves Stadium Building Committee. Former Wake Forest President James Ralph Scales said of him on many occasions that he was Wake Forest's greatest cheerleader. He also served on the Winston-Salem Convention Center and Coliseum Committee and was Sports Chairman for the Chaber of Commerce, promoting numerous activities. He was President of the Twin City Sertoma Club, where he aggressively promoted "Service to Mankind", putting on golfing events to raise money for mentally retarded children. His love for golf led him to Tanglewood where he served as President of the Tanglewood Golf Association. He won a number of golf tournaments, participated for over 30 years in the Surf Invitational and had four holes in one in his career. Otis was not reluctant to state his opinion. The late Bob Quincy, Sports Editor for the Charlotte News referred to him as a before, after and during dinner speaker. He strongly believed in helping those who cannot help themselves. He will be greatly missed as a source of information on sports and politics and frequently stated his opinion in the Charlotte Observer's "Letters to the Editor." He is a member of Blair Road United Methodist Church, the Navaho Club and Pine Lake Country Club. He is survived by his wife, Jacqueline; daughters, Joy Cornwell and husband, Bill of Charleston, SC and Joan Jones of Morehead City, NC; grandsons, David Sanford Jones and his wife, Ashley, of Morehead City and Matthew Christian Jones and his wife, Kelly, of Fruitland, MD; granddaughter, Rhett Rich and her husband, Michael, of Orlando, FL; and great-grandchildren, William Emory and Margaret Rich, both of Orlando. He is also survived by his step-daughter, Deborah Lutz and her husband, Eddie, of Charlotte and his step-grandsons, Christopher and Jonathan Lutz. In addition to his parents, he was preceded in death by his sister, Ruby Gaddy Rea. Services will be held 2 p.m. Monday, June 17, in the Wilson Chapel of Hankins & Whittington Funeral Service, 5301 Albemarle Road. The family will receive friends for one hour prior to the service. Interment will follow in Forest Lawn West Cemetery. Memorials may be made to the YMCA of Greater Charlotte, Suite 300, 500 East Morehead Street, Charlotte, NC 28202. The Wilson Chapel of Hankins & Whittington Funeral Service is serving Mr. Skipper's Family. Published in the Charlotte Observer on 6/16/2002.

    06/18/2002 08:41:03
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Re: Yarbrough's
    2. joan1
    3. Anyone have any info. on the Yarbrough family who lived in Mecklenburg, NC. abt. 1840. Shem and wife Nellie, sons, William, Thompson S..They had other children and I am interested in finding out more about the family. Thanks Joan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/02

    06/16/2002 05:46:40
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Joel J Watts and Mary J Morris
    2. Cynthia H Porcher
    3. Looking for further info on family below. All help appreciated. chp Name of dry goods store? Parents of Mary J Morris? Dates? Burial info? Other children? Descendants? Name: Joel J WATTS ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ Birth: ca 1842 NC Occupation: Dry Goods Merchant Father: Capt Davis W WATTS (1814-1858) Mother: Mary B TIMMONS (ca1818-ca1885) Other spouses: Sarah E Marriage: 24 Aug 1865 Mecklenburg Co, NC by Wm McDonald ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ Spouse: Mary J MORRIS ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ Children ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 1 M: Henny WATTS Birth: ca 1867 NC Notes for Joel J WATTS Joel J Watts is listed as son of Davis W and Mary Watts in both the 1850 and 1860 census for Chesterfield Co, SC.

    06/16/2002 12:45:06
    1. Re: [NCMECKLE-L] Watts family
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Cynthia H Porcher wrote: Would love to find out more about (the Watts) in Mecklenburg. ----- The Rev. J.B.Watt was a pastor of the Steele Creek Presbyterian Church, and is buried there: Rev. J.B. Watts, born April 4, 1820; died Sept 16, 1860. Nancy M. Watt, wife of J.B.Watt, died Apr. 10, 1854, at the age of 34. Louise Angeline Watts, second wife of Rev. James Bell Watts (above); born 1835; died 1917. Elizabeth Reed Watts was born 1870, d. 1937 (Rev) A.L. Watts' will was probated Apr 1815, naming a daughter, Isabella, who was to be taken to Fayetteville and left with her grandmother (Mrs.McMillan), with his other children. He left a gold watch to (dau?) Joanna, a gold pencil and morroco Bible to (son?) Charles, and $30 to neice, Elizabeth Watts. William J. Watts left his will in 1857, naming his wife, Virginia, and children: James, John & Margaret. Andrew Watts in found in the 1790 US Census of Mecklenburg Co., NC in the Reedy Creek-Rocky River section. His houshold consisted of one male child, one female child and one female head of house. Lee Ramsey ----- There is also a grave marker for James Bell Watts, born 1835; died 1917. ----- There is found a will record for a Rev. A.L. Watts probated Apr 1855, naming dau., Isabella, who is to be taken to her grandmother (sic Mrs. McMillan) in Fayetteville, with his other childlren. He left a gold watch for Joanna (dau?) and a gold pencil and Morroco Bible to Charels (son?) A William J. Watts left a will in 1857, naming wife, Virginai, and children, James, John and Margaret. > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/15/2002 06:20:56
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Jesse Watts obit
    2. Cynthia H Porcher
    3. Sorry! In my last message I forgot to post this partial obit. Sounds to me like this Mr Watts connects to my family in Chesterfield Co. Does anyone out there have any connection to this Watts family or any other in Mecklenburg, Anson, Chesterfield, York ? chp CHARLOTTE - Mr. Jesse Watts, 87, of Charlotte died Monday, Feb. 21, 2000, at home. A graveside service will be 1 p.m. Thursday at Sharon Memorial Park, with the Rev. Joe Burnette officiating. A native of Pageland, Mr. Watts was a son of the late William Alexander Watts and Alice Fincher Watts. He was the widower of Guynella Mildred Snipes Watts. A resident of Charlotte since 1936, he was retired from the U.S. Postal Service after 30 years service. He was a charter member of Commonwealth Baptist Church, now Briar Creek Baptist Church, and the Phalanx Masonic Lodge No. 32, AF&AM, Scottish Rite Bodies and Oasis Temple. He was past Monarch of Grotto. --

    06/15/2002 12:35:14
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Watts family
    2. Cynthia H Porcher
    3. Is anyone researching the Watts family in Mecklenburg Co? I have been researching this family in Anson, Union, Chesterfield, and York Counties. Would love to find out more about those in Mecklenburg. Chp chollp@bellsouth.net

    06/15/2002 12:31:05
    1. Re: [NCMECKLE-L] Jesse Watts obit
    2. Raiford Pittman
    3. From THE HISTORY OF MECKLENBURG (NC) 1740-1900 by J. B. Alexander, Heritage Publishing Co., the following Watts are listed: p. 340 Privates in Co, C., 10th Reg't. Art'y, N.C. Troops Watts, C.L. Watt, Charles B. p. 353 Privates in Co. K, 56th Reg't., N.C. Troops Watts, R.A. d. (deceased) p. 354 Privates in Co. F, 49th Reg't, N.C. Troops Watts, J.S. None listed in the name index of THE MECKLENBURG [NC] DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE MAY 20, 1775 AND THE LIVES OF ITS SIGNERS, by George W. Graham, M.D. (Mine didn't make it, either.) COUNTY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia H Porcher" <chollp@bellsouth.net> To: <NCMECKLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 3:35 PM Subject: [NCMECKLE-L] Jesse Watts obit > Sorry! In my last message I forgot to post this partial obit. Sounds to me > like this Mr Watts connects to my family in Chesterfield Co. Does anyone > out there have any connection to this Watts family or any other in > Mecklenburg, Anson, Chesterfield, York ? chp > > CHARLOTTE - Mr. Jesse Watts, 87, of Charlotte died Monday, Feb. 21, > 2000, at home. > > A graveside service will be 1 p.m. Thursday at Sharon Memorial Park, > with the Rev. Joe Burnette officiating. > A native of Pageland, Mr. Watts was a son of the late William > Alexander Watts and Alice Fincher Watts. He was the widower of > Guynella Mildred Snipes Watts. A resident of Charlotte since 1936, he > was retired from the U.S. Postal Service after 30 years service. He > was a charter member of Commonwealth Baptist Church, now Briar Creek > Baptist Church, and the Phalanx Masonic Lodge No. 32, AF&AM, Scottish > Rite Bodies and Oasis Temple. He was past Monarch of Grotto. > > -- > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    06/15/2002 11:51:01
    1. Re: [NCMECKLE-L] The name DUNNAN
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Joy wrote: I have a Dunning Casiah, Dunum Cuzine and a Duncan Keziah....(early?) NC/SC ----- The surname Cuzine/Keziah is not found in the on-line census records. For the surname Casiah, only one is found in the 1790 US Census: John CASIAH as head of household in Spartenburgh County, SC, with no female head of house and no children. There is a social securtiy death record for a DUNCAN Vann Keziah, who died 14 Mar 1981, Union Co., NC. His date of birth is given as 28 May 1891. There is a social security death record for Duncan Wade Keziah, who died 1 May 1986, Union Co., NC. His birth date is given as 13 June 1920. Lee Ramsey Then there is a Dunnan Presley. The name Dunnan is spelled consistently in the Presley family. As you can > see it has many spellings in the other family. > Was there a family of *DUNNAN'S*? The Presley's were also associated with > the Helms in early NC and SC as were the Keziah's. > Is DUNNAN a family name from German? Presley is Preslar and Helms is Hellums > also from Germany. Could the Dunnam be Duncan or Dunning? or whatever???? > HELP. > Thanks, > Joy > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/14/2002 10:19:27
    1. Re: [NCMECKLE-L] Samuel Carr b.~1813 in AL parents from NC
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Margaret Snow wrote: > I am looking for information on my ggggrandfather Samuel Carr. According to the 1850 census he was born in Alabama about 1813. ---- No doubt Samuel believed he was born in Alabama, as he more than likely grew up there, and that's why he or his wife reported his birth place as Alabama to the census taker. Alabama's statehood was not until 1819, and was not a territory until 1817. Prior to 1817, it was part of the Mississippi Territory, which was created in 1798, and took only the lower one third of present day AL and MS. At the time of the 1790 census AL's only county was Washington, and unfortuately the census for that year are lost. By 1810, there was Baldwin County, created partly out of Washington. There are census records for Washington Co., AL in 1810, but not Baldwin. Other consideration for Samuel's birth in 1813 is Spanish West Florida, which is present day Baldwin Co. and Mobile Co., AL, or more than likely the state of Georgia. The 1820 census of GA shows several Carr Clans in North GA, and else where. Many NC folks settled in N. GA and NE GA. In the 1820 Census for Elbert County, GA is found Samuel, David, John, William and Hugh Carr. There are other counties to check also. The 1830 US Census shows a Samuel Carr in Montgomery Co., AL, as well as the 1840 census, along with a Moses and a John Carr. > his widow is in the 1870 Winston County census. I have heard he was killed in the Civil War but have no proof of this yet. ---- I found one Civil War widow claim for a Nancy Carr in MS, but the soldier was not Samuel. But that does not mean the on-line records are complete. If Samuel died in the war, his wife should have file a pension claim. Lee Ramsey > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/12/2002 07:09:27
    1. Re: [NCMECKLE-L] 1791 John Potts
    2. Paul Buckley
    3. Sheila, Take a look at www.rootsweb.com/~ncschgs for some Potts information. Regards, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Beryl Anthony <beryla@mindspring.com> To: <NCMECKLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: [NCMECKLE-L] 1791 John Potts > "Genealogical Deed Abstracts Mecklenburg County, NC--Books 10-14 On > page100, item#1669. "page 900 9 Apr 1791. John Potts to his children > Jean Gracey, Margaret, Susannah, Wm and Elizabeth Potts, for natural > love and affection, a negro man named Beja, a negro girl named Nan, five > horses, 20 black cattle, and all his house furniture, and farm > implements. John Potts appointed Wm Potts and Wm Morrison as guardians > of his children and exrs to manage his plantation so as to provide for > his support and that of his wife...." In the next entry he names his > wife as Nancy. > > QUESTION: Does anyone have information on this POTTS family? Where in > Meck. County did they live? Who did the children marry? Nancy's > family? Everybody's birth and death dates? Where buried? > Thanks, > Sheila Anthony > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/12/2002 05:14:55
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] 1791 John Potts
    2. Beryl Anthony
    3. "Genealogical Deed Abstracts Mecklenburg County, NC--Books 10-14 On page100, item#1669. "page 900 9 Apr 1791. John Potts to his children Jean Gracey, Margaret, Susannah, Wm and Elizabeth Potts, for natural love and affection, a negro man named Beja, a negro girl named Nan, five horses, 20 black cattle, and all his house furniture, and farm implements. John Potts appointed Wm Potts and Wm Morrison as guardians of his children and exrs to manage his plantation so as to provide for his support and that of his wife...." In the next entry he names his wife as Nancy. QUESTION: Does anyone have information on this POTTS family? Where in Meck. County did they live? Who did the children marry? Nancy's family? Everybody's birth and death dates? Where buried? Thanks, Sheila Anthony

    06/12/2002 12:52:31
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] Wearn & Trealor Families
    2. Jeannie Wearn
    3. Looking for descendants of Richard Wearn who in the Charlotte area in 1831. He was a native of Cornwall. Richard Wearn initially settled in Gatehouse of the Fleet, Scotland. There he met and married his wife, Henrietta Thomson Wearn. They are buried in Old Settlers Cemetery in Charlotte. I would like to contact other families descended from Richard and Henrietta with the goal of sharing family history.

    06/12/2002 02:49:42
    1. Re: [NCMECKLE-L] Surnames - Irby/Yearby/Yerby
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Hildred A Carlson wrote: >William and Margaret (?) Irby/Yearby, bought land in Anson Co. NC in 1760 on the Pee Dee river, on or near Youngs Island... it was signed William Yearby and Margaret Yearby. I have been unable to find his parents surname Yearby/Yerby. ---- In 1757, Edmond Irby is found as an adjacent land owner to Alexander Gordon, and Jacob (---?---), in what was then Anson Co., NC, on the NE side of Pee Dee River, joining both sides of Beaverdam Creek, the south side of a Reedy Marsh. This was a land entry for a land patent issued to Alexander Gordon. (NC Land Patents) ---- In 1758, Edmond Irby a carpenter of Anson Co., NC sold 200 A to Wm. Hamer, land being granted to John Berry in 1748. (Anson Co., NC Deeds). There is much confusion here in state and county land deeds which is not surprising. The NC land patents show this land in Blanden Co., NC in 1748, and it became a part of Anson Co., NC. about the same time. Idmond Irby and William Irby are the only Irby's I find in Anson Co., NC records from 1749-1766. William Irby is found on the southside of the Pee Dee River prior to 1763, as this is the date he deeds the 180 A on S. Side Pee Dee to Randolph Cheek. William Irby's purchase of this land provides a little more description: dated 3 May 1762, Arron Smith to William Irby of same 180 A on S side of Pee Dee above the mouth of Brown Cr. (Anson Co. NC Deeds). On 4 Jan 1762, Margaret Irley(Irbey) was a witness to a deed between William Crittenden of Anson, Carpenter and Benjamin Smith of same for land on W side of Pee Dee in Youngs Island, adj. Robert Parks, Thomas George, William Crittenden. This is not only interesting, but somewhat unusual for a woman to witness a deed, and seems to indicat a close relationship to William Crittenden or Benjamin Smith. More likely William Crittenden, i.e. father, brother, uncle? At first glance it appears that this part of the Pee Dee River lies in what came to be old Craven County, SC, before it abolished and broken down into various counties. Other settlers in the area of Youngs Island were Josephy Murphy, Joseph Cheek, Jur., Robert Parks, Thos. George. As the Pee Dee River begins in NC and runs through several counties of SC, locating the land could be very helpful for your research. You will find names like Beaverdam Creek and Brown's Creek repeated in differenct locations. Also, Young's Island may or may not be a present day location. Lee Ramsey > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/11/2002 04:35:18
    1. [NCMECKLE-L] McMahan
    2. Seeking info on James/Jim McMahan who lived on Ashville Place in Charlotte. Is he still living? Would be approximately 95-97 years old. Need names of children etc. Mary June Knoxville TN

    06/11/2002 04:02:59