Debbie, There is a book titled THE GREAT WAGON ROAD BY Parke Rouse, Jr., a part of the American Trails Series, Edited by A. B. Guthrie, Jr., 1973, McGraw-Hill. Index has no mention of Watsons or McKees, but two Smiths: Francis W. and John. This is truly a history of the road, much more so than the people who traveled it. Louise Pettus ---------- >From: [email protected] (Deborah L. Mangen) >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NCMECKLE] "The Great Wagon Road" >Date: Sat, Jan 29, 2000, 10:26 PM > >Hello. > >Could someone direct me to a title or source for a book >on the Great Wagon >Road and the people who went to Meck. Co on it? I am >particularly >interested in Smiths, Watsons and McKees. I am >interested in where the >majority of the Scots came from in the colonies who >settled in NC. > >I'd appreciate any advice you might offer. >Thanks. >Debbie Mangen >[email protected] > >

Why don't you check with [email protected] . She has a line of Spears. Betty -----Original Message----- From: Louise Pettus <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Fwd: Morgan Taylor >Donna, >I am also descended from James McKnight Morrow >(1773-1833) >He is the father of Allen Morrow and Benjamin >Morrow. >Allen is the father of James McKnight Morrow II, >only >son of Allen's marriage to Nancy "Agnes" Houston >Potts. >(My line is Allen's second marriage, possibly >third, >to Clarissa Amelia Spears.). Allen's brother >Benjamin >is the father of Henry Connor Morrow. >Allen was named for his maternal grandfather, John >Allen of Virginia. > >Louise Pettus >---------- >>From: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Fwd: Morgan Taylor >>Date: Sat, Jan 29, 2000, 5:48 PM >> > >>Carol-I saw MORROW listed as one of you research lines. >>I'm trying to add to >>my Morrow info as well-I have James Morrow, Sr, >father of >>James, Jr and >>Allan.Allan is father to James McKnight(McNitt) Morrow, >>James is the father >>of Benjamin, Benj is the father of Henry Connor Morrow >>and Matilda Nuttall >>Morrow, my husband's grgrgr >>grandmother.Are any of these names familiar to you ? I'd >>appreciate ANY help! >>Thanks-Donna >> >

Donna, I am also descended from James McKnight Morrow (1773-1833) He is the father of Allen Morrow and Benjamin Morrow. Allen is the father of James McKnight Morrow II, only son of Allen's marriage to Nancy "Agnes" Houston Potts. (My line is Allen's second marriage, possibly third, to Clarissa Amelia Spears.). Allen's brother Benjamin is the father of Henry Connor Morrow. Allen was named for his maternal grandfather, John Allen of Virginia. Louise Pettus ---------- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Fwd: Morgan Taylor >Date: Sat, Jan 29, 2000, 5:48 PM > >Carol-I saw MORROW listed as one of you research lines. >I'm trying to add to >my Morrow info as well-I have James Morrow, Sr, father of >James, Jr and >Allan.Allan is father to James McKnight(McNitt) Morrow, >James is the father >of Benjamin, Benj is the father of Henry Connor Morrow >and Matilda Nuttall >Morrow, my husband's grgrgr >grandmother.Are any of these names familiar to you ? I'd >appreciate ANY help! >Thanks-Donna >

An explanation of the differences between the Scots and the Scots-Irish immigrants might be helpful to this list as they both were present in Mecklenburg Co. in the 18th century. The Scots came from Scotland directly to America. They were normally from the highlands of Scotland and they had strong allegiance to the Crown. During the Revolutionary War, they tended to be Loyalists. The Scots-Irish were originally from the lowlands (Southern part) of Scotland. They lived in sparce conditions and long endured border skirmishes. In 1603, King James began the Plantation of Ulster in Northern Ireland. He intended to send people from the Scottish lowlands to northern Ireland to settle there and help to control the Irish who were troublesome and Catholic. The Scots were protestant. The plantation was successful for 100 years but from about 1725 to the late 1700's' things deteriorated in Ireland so that these Scots-Irish or Ulstermen again left for new shores, this time in America. Some 250,000 came during this great wave of immigration from Ireland and most arrived in ports near Philadelphia. They came into Pennsylvania and later moved on. Some moved west and stayed int he NOrthern US. The Mecklenburg group came down the great Wagon Road through Virginia and into NC. I am Scots-Irish throught my Harris ancestors from Charlotte. My husband is Scots-Irish through his McNeal ancestors who stayed in western Pennsylvania and then went on into Ohio. The Scots-Irish were fiercely independent and were among the strongest fighters for independence from England. They supported a strong Protestant church and valued education. They were not afraid of new territories and were in the lead as settlers pushed West into new territories as America expanded. James G. Leyburn has written a wonderful book: The Scotch-Irish, a Social History. Anyone who is researching ancestors with these connections will enjoy this book immensly and will learn a wealth of good information about his ancestors. Constance

One of the better accounts of settlement of the Piedmont North Carolina area is a book written by Robert W. Ramsey entitled Carolina Cradle, Settlement of the Northwest Carolina Frontier, 1747-1762, published in 1964 by the University of North Carolina Press. It can be found in many libraries. Todd Robinson

I have some Wisharts in Richmond County, NC. It is a rather unusual name, but I have still have some difficult tracing it. Giles Eli Wishart married Margaret Goodman. They had two children: Walter Lee Wishart who died in 1907 and Annabel Wishart who was born January 9, 1887. I believe at some point Annabel moved to either Alabama or Mississippi. My Goodmans are also connected to Mecklenburg County. Laurence Rolandus Goodman married Mary Elizabeth Orr. Do you have any connections. Linda Wyatt [email protected]

Are you aware of the fact that many Scots came to NC via Wilmington? this is especially true of those followers of Bonnie Prince Charles who were banished to the Colony after swearing allegiance to GBritain such as Flora McDonald and her group. Those Scots who would not swear such oath were banished with Irish "troublemakers" to the western borders of NC and to the penal colony of GA to be a buffer between the Loyal subjects and the Indians. Those Scots who were sent earlier to Ireland were the more numerous travelers on the Great Wagon Road from PA. I thought this might help you isolate your search G. Norman Crump ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah L. Mangen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: [NCMECKLE] "The Great Wagon Road" > Hello. > > Could someone direct me to a title or source for a book on the Great Wagon > Road and the people who went to Meck. Co on it? I am particularly > interested in Smiths, Watsons and McKees. I am interested in where the > majority of the Scots came from in the colonies who settled in NC. > > I'd appreciate any advice you might offer. > Thanks. > Debbie Mangen > [email protected] > >

Wonderful article. How about Ivey's Department Store? That was a landmark in Charlotte of the Ivey family. Another thing.....I sent the initial message on Morgan Taylor and no one ever replied and everytime I see the name I think I finally have gotten a message. Aaaaaahhhhhh......so is life.!!! Joy Charleston, SC used to live in Charlotte

Louise-are you familiar with the CONNOR line ? I have an interesting newspaper article about Henry W Connor who was a Congressman from the Lincoln District for 20 years-1821-1841.He married Lucy Hawkins Coleman(dau of Gov Hawkins) and had 3 children-Charles T Connor, marr Mary Sherrill, Ann Connor marr J M Ivey and Henry W Connor Jr, batchelor, died 1873.I have more if you are interested. Donna

Norman, thanks so much for sharing that with us. It was very enlightening. Nina

Donna, I, of course, have dozens of James Morrows but don't show an Allen. I have seen James McKnight or McKnitt on lists online but could not definitely connect so didn't put him in my database. Can you give me dates and places for the first two James'? Will keep your note in my file so if I see the 'James McKnight' again I can forward to you. Let me know about the James' if you have more info. Thanks. Carol [email protected] [email protected] researching MORROW, COLE, EDMISTON, COMSTOCK, DANIEL, BESETTE

Great! I am not related to the Catheys but I did read that they were one of the more prominent families to settle in the Yadkin country. Hope you find your connection. [email protected] wrote: > > Thank you very much for the information. I will see about getting a copy of the book thru inter-library loan. I am not sure what CATHEY lines I am connected to in NC yet but I have been taking in as much information as I can in "hopes" to finding a connection back to there. > > Queet

Hello. Could someone direct me to a title or source for a book on the Great Wagon Road and the people who went to Meck. Co on it? I am particularly interested in Smiths, Watsons and McKees. I am interested in where the majority of the Scots came from in the colonies who settled in NC. I'd appreciate any advice you might offer. Thanks. Debbie Mangen [email protected]

The book "Carolina Cradle: Settlement of the Northwest Carolina Frontier" by Robert W. Ramsey has a number of references to the Cathey family. Ramsey traces them back to Cecil county, MD in 1719. From there, Catheys moved to Chester county, PA and from there to Lancaster county, PA by 1736. By 1738, James Cathey removed to the Shenandoah Valley. From there, Catheys moved on to the Yadkin Valley of western North Carolina. The book is very specific and well-documented. It includes lists of deeds, maps of the settlements, marriage information and will details. The book was published in 1964 and is currently in print. I bought it at a Scottish festival in Arizona last year. If you cannot locate it, I would be happy to look up specific Cathey names for you. [email protected] wrote: > > Hello All! > > I am looking for any Census information on the Cathey family between > 1790-1850. I would also like to know if I can get some burial, marriage, > death, etc information on this line. > > Thank you, > Queet

Debbie-in your post you mentioned being interested in a Watson line. I have some info if you can give me a little info on who you are researching-could be we have a connection. Donna

Queet, I am not a Cathey descendant but do collect information on people who lived in the Catawba Indian Land of York and Lancaster Counties in SC which adjoins Mecklenburg County. I hope there is something here to help you. CATHEY Matthew Toole, trader with the Catawba tribe, married Nellie Cathey, sister of John Cathey on Swearing Creek off Yadkin River. Toole persuaded Cathey to settle on the Catawba River, near the mouth of Davidson Creek, Mecklenburg County, about 2 miles below Beattie�s Ford in the month of November 1747, where he built a cabin which was supposed to the first dwelling raised by a white man on the waters of the Catawba River. ______ York County Probate Judge Real Estate Book, 1839-1867, p. 106. 1846. Partition of George Cathey's estate. Mary Cathey widow. Children: Robert A. William H., John H., James J. and Sarah Ann Cathey, the first four being children of petitioner (Mary Cathey), the latter the child of George Cathey before his marriage. Since their father's death, William H. and John H. have died....died with small tract of land on East side of Catawba on the road leading from Tuckeyseige Ford to Camden Courthouse--215 acres--bounded by Joseph F. White, Hugh M. White, Solomon Kimbrell, and Henry G. Harris. Joseph G. Watson made guardian of Robert A., James J. and Sarah Ann. [Mary Cathey, widow, was Mary Watson, dau. of Robert and Elizabeth Watson.] _____ George Cathey, William E. White and Elizabeth Elliott each received one-third of Samuel Elliott's estate. (York Co. Estate Records Book F, 6 Feb. 1824, pp. 325-29.) ____ Alonzo Gillespie, son of Joseph and Temperance Massey Gillespie, was in War with Mexico. Died when about 36 years of age. Left wife and children. She was Sarah Ann Cathey who married 2nd. Alex Coffey and had three children--Hugh, Sarah and Emma. (In Massey records). _______ Alexander Coffey, (June 15, 1801-1876), son of Hugh and Agnes Montgomery Coffey m. (1) Margaret Hood (25 June 1804-13 Aug. 1860); (2) Sarah Ann Cathey Gillespie (1828-1868). Three children: Hugh, Emma, Sarah (married Brock). (In Coffee family records.) ---------- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NCMECKLE] CATHEY family >Date: Thu, Jan 27, 2000, 10:58 AM > >Hello All! > >I am looking for any Census information on the Cathey >family between >1790-1850. I would also like to know if I can get some >burial, marriage, >death, etc information on this line. > >Thank you, >Queet >

I would suggest that your Sarah McAlister is grandmother to Sarah age 18 on the census. The father you show is probably the son of Sarah McAlister. Just a thought. GOOD LUCK> [email protected] [email protected] researching MORROW, COLE, EDMISTON, COMSTOCK, DANIEL, BESETTE

Thank you very much for the information. I will see about getting a copy of the book thru inter-library loan. I am not sure what CATHEY lines I am connected to in NC yet but I have been taking in as much information as I can in "hopes" to finding a connection back to there. Queet

Most are in Mecklenburg. Joy

Carol-I saw MORROW listed as one of you research lines. I'm trying to add to my Morrow info as well-I have James Morrow, Sr, father of James, Jr and Allan.Allan is father to James McKnight(McNitt) Morrow, James is the father of Benjamin, Benj is the father of Henry Connor Morrow and Matilda Nuttall Morrow, my husband's grgrgr grandmother.Are any of these names familiar to you ? I'd appreciate ANY help! Thanks-Donna