Calvin, Are you descended from the Rev. Robert Calvin Grier, son of Isaac Grier? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Bible-Grier family of Steele Creek > Thanks for the info. > Did you know that Isaac's grandfather, Robert Grier, Sr.& family moved from > Pa. to Ga. in 1773. Durining the Rev. War they went to Mecklenburg Co. N.C. > and stayed with family until the war was over then went back to Ga. Isaac's > father, Robert Grier Jr. joined the N.C. milita while they were in N.C. > Isaac perpetuated the family name by giving his son the name, Robert Calvin > Grier. > Sure wish I could find out the Grier family connection! > Calvin Grier >

Calvin, Do you have the information from the old ARP History Book (Centennial History) written in 1903. Isaac Grier was an ARP minister. Let me know if you don't have the info from that book and I will send it to you. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Bible-Grier family of Steele Creek > Thanks for the info. > Did you know that Isaac's grandfather, Robert Grier, Sr.& family moved from > Pa. to Ga. in 1773. Durining the Rev. War they went to Mecklenburg Co. N.C. > and stayed with family until the war was over then went back to Ga. Isaac's > father, Robert Grier Jr. joined the N.C. milita while they were in N.C. > Isaac perpetuated the family name by giving his son the name, Robert Calvin > Grier. > Sure wish I could find out the Grier family connection! > Calvin Grier >

I don't think so....Isaac Grier and Isabella Harris were at old Sardis ARP on Sardis Rd. (now Sardis Presby.) They are buried in that cemetery. This Grier family originally settled in Steele Creek Com. (all buried at Steele Creek Presby) and have stayed there.... I spent some time years ago trying to connect the two families but was unable to do so. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Bible-Grier family of Steele Creek > Linda, > Was wondering if this bible was connected to my family line; > Isaac Grier (1776-1843) m. Isabella Harris (1783-1841). > Calvin Grier >

Thanks for the info. Did you know that Isaac's grandfather, Robert Grier, Sr.& family moved from Pa. to Ga. in 1773. Durining the Rev. War they went to Mecklenburg Co. N.C. and stayed with family until the war was over then went back to Ga. Isaac's father, Robert Grier Jr. joined the N.C. milita while they were in N.C. Isaac perpetuated the family name by giving his son the name, Robert Calvin Grier. Sure wish I could find out the Grier family connection! Calvin Grier

Donna, Several years ago I put information out of an old Cathey Bible on this List. I was able to copy this information from old bible pages that had been taken from an older bible and pasted into the back of another bible. This bible came down through the Grier family of Steele Creek. I will try to get this info on the Meck. Web, but in the meantime, there was an interesting note at the bottom of one of the pages. It states at the bottom of a list of children's births "The above 10 children aare the offspring of George Cathey & Frances Henry(alias) Cathey. The births listed were: Josiah Cathey..was born May 15th 1749 Elizabeth Cathey...was born May 15 1752 Jean Cathey...was born March 27th 1754 George Cathey...was born March 10th 1756 Andrew Cathey ...was born Feb 24th 1758 Alexander Cathey..was born Sept 11th 1759 Mary Cathey...was born December 24th 1761 Frances Cathey..was born Dec 26th 1763 John Cathey ..was born Sept 25 1766 Henry Cathey was born Feb 9th 1770 Walter Carruth (a grandson born Nov 5th 1780. (the note above was written here) then a note below that read: Sam (Jan?) Swann was born apr 10 1781 - June 1875 The next birth's in the bible start at 1815, so these above older pages were pasted into the bible that started with the 1815 births. Hope this might be some help to you. Linda Blackwelder ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Johnson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: [NCMECKLE] Cathey - Henry > George CATHEY, Jr. born c 1724 married Frances HENRY, bef 1749 (my > ancestors) > > His brother John CATHEY born c 1725 married Mary HENRY > > Is anyone researching the HENRY family? Need parents for Frances. > Wondering if Frances and Mary were sisters. > > Donna J. Johnson > Charlotte, Mecklenburg Co., North Carolina, USA > my url: <http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/1174> > > >

Just found Andrew Hipp in Lauderdale county in 1840. Andrew Hipp--200001--000001 He would be in the 30-40 age frame I believe, I am not sure but I think he is the same one listed in Cannon county, TN. Take care, Bill

Linda, Was wondering if this bible was connected to my family line; Isaac Grier (1776-1843) m. Isabella Harris (1783-1841). Calvin Grier

George CATHEY, Jr. born c 1724 married Frances HENRY, bef 1749 (my ancestors) His brother John CATHEY born c 1725 married Mary HENRY Is anyone researching the HENRY family? Need parents for Frances. Wondering if Frances and Mary were sisters. Donna J. Johnson Charlotte, Mecklenburg Co., North Carolina, USA my url: <http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/1174>

Hello, In the 1880 census of Cabarrus Co., Martha Barkley is listed living with her grandson, Andrew Honeysuck (Hunsucker) b. 1818. Moore Co., NC He died in 1894 in Cabarrus Co., NC. Does anyone know this lady? We do not have anything on his maternal line. Thank you, Joy T

1. Elizabeth Cathey (dau of John Cathey & Mary Henry) was born in Feb 1748, estate probated 27 Feb 1822 in Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina. She married William Little about 1770. William Little was a Tavernkeeper in 1774 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina. He died about 1775 Mecklenburg, North Carolina. 1774 Apr: Ordered by the Court that William Lytle have a License to keep a Tavern at his now Dwelling House in Charlotte Town his securities Jonathan Boccalu and WILLIAM LEMOND who were approved by the Court. Granted. 1776--an Inventory of the estate of Wm Little, decd was produced in open court by Elizabeth Mason late Elizabeth Little administratrix of the estate of the said William Little decd and prayed that it be committed to record. Elizabeth Mason Dec'd adm set 27 Feb 1822; John Little Adm; Wm Alexander & Wm Lucky signed bond Elizabeth Cathey and William Little had the following children: 2 i. John Little. She married Richard Mason Sr (son of Charles Mason and Mary Burch) about 1776 in Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina. Richard Mason Sr was born 1755. He was a Tavernkeeper between 1774 and 1800 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina.1 1774-Richard Mason appeared in open court and applied for a license to keep a tavern in his now dwelling house in Charlotte Town. Produced for his securities Josiah Alexander & William Lemmond. 1778-Ordered that Richard Mason have a license to keep a tavern at his now dwelling house in Charlotte. Securities are Thomas Harris Esq & James Jack approved He owned Lots 11 & 12, north side of Trade Street before 1800 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina. He died in 1800 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina, buried in Old Settlers Cemetery, Charlotte, Mecklenburg, NC. Mecklenburg Co NC Will BK B #154, p 81. RICHARD MASON. 25 Apr 1800, prb not recorded with will. Knowing that life is uncertain, I will that all my real and personal property be appraised and that it be possessed by my wf Elizabeth during her widow-hood subject to the following bequeathments. I will to my wf Elizabeth and sons Henry, Winfield, Richard, Isaac, and Charles the whole of my estate except I give £20 to my wf and a like amount to son Henry in addition to their share; £10 to my grandson Richard Huson (sic, Houston?), son of Thomas Huson; $290 to my stepson John Little to be paid six months after my demise, and also four horses; and to my two sons Henry and Charles Mason my 469-acre tract joining the town of Charlotte. I will to my exrs my houses and lots in Charlotte where I now live in trust for my legatees and, at the demise or marriage of my wf, sd property is to be sold and the proceeds divided as set out above. Should any of my legatees die before they come age their share is to descend to the survivors. Exrs: Wf Elizabeth, son Henry, and friends George Graham and Isaac Alexander. Wit: D. Cowan, Eph. B. Davidson, Saml. Kennedy. Elizabeth Cathey and Richard Mason Sr had the following children: +3 i. Henry Mason 4 ii. Charles Mason b abt 1786 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina. (He had a guardian in 1807--must have been a minor) He died in Jul 1825 in Millegeville, Baldwin, Georgia. (Catawba Journal, Charlotte, NC. 18 Oct 1825: Mason, Charles, formerly of Mecklenburg County [died] in July, 1825 in Milledgeville, GA. married Hannah Clark 4 Nov 1814 in Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina. Hannah Clark born 1789, died 28 Sep 1849 Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina. 5 ii. daughter Mason married bef 1800 Thomas Huson, son Richard Huson born before 1800. 6 iv. Winfield Mason born on 6 Nov 1786? Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina. 1820 he lived in Millegeville, Baldwin, Georgia, married to Priscilla Miller 4 May 1808 in Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina. Seems to be twin to Isaac. 7 v. Isaac Mason born 6 Nov 1786, died in Dec 1811 in Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina; buried Old Settlers Cemetery, Charlotte, Mecklenburg, NC. Tombstone states he was a twin-no known issue +8 vi. Richard Mason resident of Richmond County, Georgia 1819. married Margaret Walker 18 Mar 1812 in Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina 9 vii. David Mason died about 23 Jul 1808 in Mecklenburg Co, North Carolina-no known issue 5. Henry Mason was born about 1780 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina. He died 13-22 Aug, 1823 in Sugar Creek, Mecklenburg, NC. He married Elizabeth ____ abt 1800. Elizabeth was born in 1781. She died on 15 Dec 1846 in Sugar Creek, Mecklenburg, NC. Marriage & Death Notices Charlotte Journal 3 May 1835--7 Dec 1851 Pg 32 Mason, Mrs. Elizabeth Dec 15, l846--65 yrs. member of Sugar Creek Presbyterian Church 18 & 24 Dec l846 Henry Mason and Elizabeth had the following children: 12 i. Richard C Mason. 13 ii. Elizabeth Mason. 14 iii. Isaac Mason. 15 iv. Robert Gideon Mason. 16 v. James Mason. 17 vi. Frances or Fanny Mason. 18 vii. Ann Mason died before Apr 1841 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina. 19 viii. John Mason died on 4 Feb 1840 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina. 20 ix. Henry C Mason.

Here is some information on the Cathey name. In my grgrgrgrgd John Little's will of 1755 he states"I appoint my son John Litle and my neighbor John Cathey to be the joint executors of this my last will and testament." This will incidently was written from Anson County (before Mecklenburg) in the Provence of North Carolina. In a map of land in the area there is shown that three Catheys owned land around my grandfather - There is a James Cathey and William Brandon owning land in 1753 - George Cathey owning land in 1752 and Andrew Cathey owning land in 1758. The map does not show John Cathey having land near my grandfather as stated in the will????? Im not sure of the scale of the map or exactly where the property was. If anyone is interested I could try and find out . Hope this helps someone. William E. Little

Thanks William for the information. I am still trying to find my connection to the VA Cathey's. Queet

Thank you for that. I used to have that site and lost it before I could research it. I appreciate it very much. Joy Skipper Hinson Charleston, SC

Hi All, The Charlotte-Mecklenburg Public Library provides an excellent history of the county on-line at their website. There are two ways to get to the history pages: Visit the Mecklenburg NCGenWeb main page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncmeckle, go to the history section and click on the link to "Public Library". Or, go to http://www.cmstory.org Once there, you may want to explore the entire Library offerings. Regards, Paul Buckley, Mecklenburg county NCGenWeb coordinator and NCMECKLE listowner

Hi Melinda. I'm not sure how I got there, but I found it again. Each topic has a short story with it. Most interesting. http://www.cmstory.org/history/timeline/default.htm Debbie

Hi Debbie....What is the URL for the Mecklenburg Co Library site that you mentioned ? Malinda "Deborah L. Mangen" wrote: > Thank you, Louise. > > I really appreciate your help. It seems the Watsons were in Meck. Co. > really early and had left by 1800. I went through the entire Mecklenburg > Co. Library page on the net last night and read the history links. It was > very interesting and for those who haven't done that, it was very helpful as > far as the timeline and history goes. > > This southern research is really frustrating. I have mostly northern roots > but the few southern lines I have are the hardest to trace. The evidence is > few and far between. I'll keep plugging away. > > Thanks for all the help today and in the past. > > Debbie

Linda, I'm sorry I don't have anything on your Wisharts. I will keep your note in file, in case I do run across your 'folks'

The department store Iveys are a different family from the Lancaster County/Rock Hill Ivys. Louise ---------- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Fwd: Morgan Taylor >Date: Sun, Jan 30, 2000, 3:07 PM > > >Wonderful article. How about Ivey's Department Store? >That was a landmark >in Charlotte of the Ivey family. >Another thing.....I sent the initial message on Morgan >Taylor and no one ever >replied and everytime I see the name I think I finally >have gotten a message. > >Aaaaaahhhhhh......so is life.!!! > >Joy >Charleston, SC used to >live in Charlotte >

Donna, I am not well-informed on the Connors. In fact you rather startled me as I realized a connection I had never been aware of before. I knew that Benj. Morrow married a daughter of Gov. Philemon Hawkins and I knew that James Morrow Ivy married Ann Connor but I never realized there would be a connection. Do you know that James Morrow Ivy was the nephew of Benjamin Hawkins, and son of Jane Morrow Ivy and Rev. Adam Ivy? Here is an account of J. M. Ivy from my newspaper column, Nearby History. JAMES MORROW IVY--"FATHER OF ROCK HILL" Old accounts often call James Morrow Ivy the "Father of Rock Hill." It seems strange that there is no marker, no street, no park or anything else to commemorate his memory in the town where he had such impact in the latter part of the 19th Century. Actually, there was once a small park at Charlotte Avenue and Cedar Street named for him but somehow the name got changed over the years. Ironically, he donated the land for this park., a small triangle dominated by children's playground equipment. Who was James Morrow Ivy? He was born Nov. 5, 1838, the son of Rev. Adam Ivy, founder of three Methodist churches, and Ann Morrow of Lancaster County's Indian Land. His father was a large planter with nearly 1500 acres of land who held a major interest in the Turkey Head Mills, a large flour mill on the Catawba River. Young Ivy was sent to Rock Hill to study under Gen. J.A. Alston, W. H. Thomasson and Col. J. M. White. The next year Alston moved to Winnsboro to head Mount Zion Academy, a distinguished school in its day. Young Ivy followed Alston but only stayed one session. He then enrolled in John R. Shurley's school at Ebenezer, another fine preparatory school. From Ebenezer Academy Ivy went to South Carolina College--older and better prepared than most of his classmates. He was a class leader.and when the Civil War broke out became sergeant of the militia company formed by the students and several professors. Ivy witnessed the Fort Sumter bombardment. Ivy's company became part of Hampton's Legion. He was badly wounded in his shoulder at the Battle of Seven Pines and never recovered the use of his left arm. Out of the army he married Ann Connor, the daughter of one of his commanding officers, and for a time managed her father's business in Lincoln County, N.C. When his father-in-law died in 1869, Ivy returned to Rock Hill. He established J. M. Ivy and Co. Over the years he had various partners. In 1877, he merged his firm with Fewell Merchandise. Fewell concentrated on the retail market and Ivy centered his attention of an extensive fertilizer business, banking, and, primarily on the buying and selling of cotton. James Morrow Ivy is thought to have been the first Piedmont merchant to delve into the cotton futures market. According to the Yorkville Enquirer, July 10, 1879: "He began his purchases by this method as early as 1872, and has continued to study, improve and develop the system....It is the system of selling in advance, and purchasing and selling to cover, that has enabled him to deal so largely in spot cotton, and with comparatively, perfect security...." It was not perfect security. Eventually Ivy lost his entire estate on the futures market in cotton. He could not control world-wide depression and eastern banks usurious rates. It was the cotton market developed by Ivy that was the basis for the early growth of Rock Hill. Before Ivy came on the Rock Hill scene, the town's merchants were handling about 2,000 bales annually. Within 7 years, Ivy was shipping over 12,000 bales alone. The bales went north by rail. Ivy was twice elected intendant, or mayor, of Rock Hill. If he saw a business floundering and considered it worthwhile, Ivy would buy it out, reorganize the business and get it on a safe footing. Then he would the business to others. He was something of a one-man economic development corporation. In this way Ivy ended up owning a drugstore known as Ivy & Robertson. He founded a newspaper, the Lantern, in order to have a place to advertise his goods. Eventually, in a series of changes, the newspaper became the Herald. Ivy initiated the drive that culminated in the establishment of the first steam engine powered mill in the upcountry, the Rock Hill Cotton Mill. He bought only a few shares of stock in the mill he organized. Ivy was only 48 years old when he died suddenly on Sept. 11, 1886. Looking back, we can say that the 17 years James Morrow Ivy spent in Rock Hill were a key factor in the town's economic development. ---------- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCMECKLE] Fwd: Morgan Taylor >Date: Sun, Jan 30, 2000, 1:30 PM > >Louise-are you familiar with the CONNOR line ? I have an >interesting >newspaper article about Henry W Connor who was a >Congressman from the Lincoln >District for 20 years-1821-1841.He married Lucy Hawkins >Coleman(dau of Gov >Hawkins) and had 3 children-Charles T Connor, marr Mary >Sherrill, Ann Connor >marr J M Ivey and Henry W Connor Jr, batchelor, died >1873.I have more if you >are interested

Thank you, Louise. I really appreciate your help. It seems the Watsons were in Meck. Co. really early and had left by 1800. I went through the entire Mecklenburg Co. Library page on the net last night and read the history links. It was very interesting and for those who haven't done that, it was very helpful as far as the timeline and history goes. This southern research is really frustrating. I have mostly northern roots but the few southern lines I have are the hardest to trace. The evidence is few and far between. I'll keep plugging away. Thanks for all the help today and in the past. Debbie