Hi Philip and Bunny, Yes, Philip, yet another common name! I have Wallace A. Moore in my files as well, though I don't know if I am related to him or not. I have two Moore lines in western NC, and so I'm working on all the Moores in that area (there were a bunch of them!). First, thanks Philip, I didn't have Wallace's parents names. I knew he was from Lincoln County, but didn't track him prior to him arriving in Macon County (ca 1836). He was listed on the 1840, 1850 and 1860 macon Co, NC census, and in Towns Co, GA in 1870 and 1880. I have a Moore web site with genealogies for several Moore families, including my two ancestral lines, plus several others lines that may or may not be of interest. I've got a page for Wallace also. The address is below. Let me know how I can help (Bunny, I'm adding your name to the Researcher list for Wallace). Talk to y'all later. Marty Grant - (Marvin A. Grant Jr) 3291 Alton Phillips Road Kinston, NC 28504-8614 e-mail: marty@martygrant.com web: http://www.martygrant.com/gen/moore.htm -----Original Message----- From: Philip Sheppard <sheppard@hargray.com> To: NCMACON-L@rootsweb.com <NCMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Wallace A. MOORE >At 01:29 AM 10/2/98 -0400, Fourls1223@aol.com wrote: >>I am looking for the Wallace A. MOORE family. >> >>Wallace b Aug 29, 1796 Lincoln Co. NC, listed in 1840-1860 census of Macon >>Co. NC. He married Sarah A. (who??) b May 29, 1805 Lincoln Co NC. >> >>Bunny Freeman > >Dear Bunny, > >Hmmm, this is very interesting. I have a Wallace Alexander Moore in my >family that was born in Loncoln County. I don't have a birth date for him >but based on his father's birthdate, it would fit as the same one. Also, >Wallace's wife was named Sarah E. Creaseman, another closely matching fact. > >My Wallace was the son of Captain William Moore, b. 9/3/1751 whose wife was >Sarah Gullick. William was born in Buck's County, Pennsylvania, the son of >John Moore, immigrant from Ulster. John and wife Mary left Pa. for Lincoln >County. All told, they had 11 children, three of whom fought at King's >Mountain, John, Alexander (my line), and William. John (Sr.) was a >Commissary Supply Officer, during the American Revolution. > >I think we got something here, and it would be great news. Those of us >researching the Moore's of Lincoln County don't have any more info than his >wife's name. > >I'm going to forward this to my fellow Moore researcher, Jo Ann Sizer, to >see what she thinks. Either she or I will be back with you. > >Many kind regards, > >Philip Sheppard >Beaufort, South Carolina >

At 01:29 AM 10/2/98 -0400, Fourls1223@aol.com wrote: >I am looking for the Wallace A. MOORE family. > >Wallace b Aug 29, 1796 Lincoln Co. NC, listed in 1840-1860 census of Macon >Co. NC. He married Sarah A. (who??) b May 29, 1805 Lincoln Co NC. > >Bunny Freeman Dear Bunny, Hmmm, this is very interesting. I have a Wallace Alexander Moore in my family that was born in Loncoln County. I don't have a birth date for him but based on his father's birthdate, it would fit as the same one. Also, Wallace's wife was named Sarah E. Creaseman, another closely matching fact. My Wallace was the son of Captain William Moore, b. 9/3/1751 whose wife was Sarah Gullick. William was born in Buck's County, Pennsylvania, the son of John Moore, immigrant from Ulster. John and wife Mary left Pa. for Lincoln County. All told, they had 11 children, three of whom fought at King's Mountain, John, Alexander (my line), and William. John (Sr.) was a Commissary Supply Officer, during the American Revolution. I think we got something here, and it would be great news. Those of us researching the Moore's of Lincoln County don't have any more info than his wife's name. I'm going to forward this to my fellow Moore researcher, Jo Ann Sizer, to see what she thinks. Either she or I will be back with you. Many kind regards, Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina

Hi everyone, I receivied the following email yesterday. I can't help her. I hope someone here might be able to. >Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:38:43 -0700 (PDT) >From: Barbara Caramba-Coker <rootsreality@yahoo.com> >Subject: Cartoogechaye Macon County NC >To: ccollier@primeline.com > >Hi > >I came across your web site while looking for information about >Cartoogechaye, Macon County NC. Do you live in that area? If so, do >you do local research? I am trying to get information on J.E. and >Sallie Wilbanks who lived in Cartoogechaye after 1870. J.E. >(desparately seeking his first name!) died about 1893. Sallie died in >Franklin 5 Aug 1924 at 90+ years old. > >Their daughter Lela married John Allen SEAY (or SEE) who also lived in >Cartoogechaye. Another daughter married a Cartoogechaye BROWN. > >The Wilbanks belonged to Mount Zion Methodist Episcopal Church. I >have seen references to a published history of this church but I have >not been able to find a copy. > > > >== >Barbara Caramba-Coker >Seeking information on WILBANKS and allied families > See http://home.inreach.com/~bcc1/wilbanks.htm for details >Also US GenWeb Coordinator for: > Towns County GA http://www.rootsweb.com/~gatowns/ > Union County NM http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmunion/ > Colfax County NM http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmcolfax/ >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Carolyn Collier http://www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/7305 http://www.usgennet.org/alhnncus/ahncmaco

Morning folks, Would anyone have descendants of, or a place of burial for the following couple? Philip Riley Rickman b: 1835 in Macon County, North Carolina d: 1919 in Macon County, North Carolina, m. Harriet Arzila Shepherd b: May 20, 1837 in Macon County, North Carolina m: November 29, 1855 in Macon County, North Carolina d: August 06, 1906 in Macon County, North Carolina Many Thanks, Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina

I am looking for the Wallace A. MOORE family. Wallace b Aug 29, 1796 Lincoln Co. NC, listed in 1840-1860 census of Macon Co. NC. He married Sarah A. (who??) b May 29, 1805 Lincoln Co NC. children: Cyhthia b ca 1826 Lincoln Co. NC Elizabeth b ca 1828 Lincoln Co. NC John b ca 1830 Lincoln Co. NC James b ca 1832 Lincoln Co. NC Robert b ca 1836 Lincoln Co. NC Margarett b ca 1838 Macon Co. NC Mary Magdalene (mine) b June 8, 1842 Macon Co. NC d btw 1880/84 Henderson Co. TX m Martin Benjamin WRIGHT William b ca 1843 Macon Co. NC Harriet A. b ca 1848 Macon Co. NC I would love to hear from anyone researching this line. Bunny Freeman

In the 1870 Macon Co. census there is a John Freeman, 77 and an A. Freeman, 63. Also in Macon Co. marriages, I find a John Freeman who married ibby Watson in 1838-witnessed by Allen Freeman. Can anyone tell me something about these Freeman's? Would appreciate any help. Libby

Hi Phillip (and Macon County gang!), I'm a Patterson researcher, and my Pattersons are from the same area. I've been wondering about your Jerry Monroe Patterson for a long time. As far as I can tell, he doesn't tie in with my Pattersons or any of the other families I've been trying to document in western NC. If he was born around Qualla in 1836, then that would have been either Macon or Haywood, depending on exactly where he lived. This area became Jackson County in 1851, and Swain County took alot of it in 1871, but not all of it. My Pattersons are the ones that Libby Nations mentioned from the Swain County Heritage book. They lived in the area (now in Swain County) on Grassy Branch near the town of Judson (now under water). This area was part of Macon County until 1871 when Swain County was formed. I have a Patterson web page with my Patterson and numerous other families listed. I plan to have a page for Jerry Monroe Patterson, but I just don't know anything about him. I have him buried at Snow Hill cemetery (Macon County) with birth of 19 Jan 1836 and death of 18 May 1902. The first record I have for Jerry is the 1880 Jackson Co, NC census, he is listed there: 1880 Jackson Co, NC pg 251, household # 9, family # 12, District 102 Jerry Patterson, W, M, 43, married, Farmer, born TN, father born TN, mother born TN July A. Patterson, F, W, 27, wife, married, Keeping House, born TN, father born TN, mother born SC C. McLin, W, M, 9, Step Son, born TX, father born TN, mother born TN Horris L. Patterson, W, M, 6, Son, born NC, father born TN, mother born TN Mary E. Patterson, W, F, 2, Daughter, born NC, father born TN, mother born TN Jerry M. Patterson, W, M, 2 months, born Feb, Son, born NC, father born TN, mother born TN 1900 Macon Co, NC Cowee Township, household # 178, family # 178 J.M. Patterson, Head, W, M, born Jan 1836, 64, married 31 years, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC Julia Patterson, Wife, W, F, born Mar 1852, 64? married 31 years, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC, 11 children born to this mother, 9 still living Monroe Pattterson, Son, W, M, born Mar 1880, 20, single, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC Jesse Pattterson, Son, W, M, born Feb 1882, 18, single, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC Eveline Pattterson, Daughter, W, F, born Apr 1884, 16, single, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC Vina Pattterson, Daughter, W, F, born Apr 1886, 14, single, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC Johhny H. Pattterson, Son, W, M, born Jan 1888, 12, single, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC Lauden Pattterson, Son, W, M, born Apr 1890, 10, single, born NC, father born NC, mother born NC The children I found in 1910 list their father's birth place as "TN", so we have two records showing Jerry Sr born in TN, and one in NC. Here is the family as I have it, one of my Grant cousins married into this family: Descendants of Jerry M PATTERSON and Julia A (---) 1. Jerry M Patterson [39423], born 19 Jan 1836 in TN; died 18 May 1902 in Macon Co, NC; buried in Snow Hill Cem, Macon Co, NC. He married in 1868/69 in Jackson Co, NC, Julia A (---) [39422], born Mar 1852 in TN. Children of Jerry M PATTERSON and Julia A (---) were as follows: 2 i Horace L Patterson [39419], born 1873/74 in Jackson Co, NC. 3 ii Mary E Patterson [39421], born 1877/78 in Jackson Co, NC. She married on 20 Dec 1898 in Macon Co, NC, Tam Shepherd [39420]. 4 iii Jerry Monroe Patterson [34866], born Feb 1880 in Jackson Co, NC. 5 iv Jesse C Patterson [7777], born Feb 1882 in Macon Co, NC. He married on 23 Jul 1905 in Macon Co, NC, Lelia Etta Grant [9811], born 1883/84 in Macon Co, NC; died Dec 1941 in Swain Co, NC, daughter of John S Grant [4564] and Carrie Ann Hurst [4572]. 6 v Eveline Patterson [39424], born Apr 1884 in Macon Co, NC. 7 vi Melvina J Patterson [39425], born Apr 1886 in Macon Co, NC. 8 vii Johnny H Patterson [39426], born Jan 1888 in Macon Co, NC. He married Bessie W Guffey [39428]. 9 viii Lauden S Patterson [39427], born Apr 1890 in Macon Co, NC. Marty Grant - (Marvin A. Grant Jr) 3291 Alton Phillips Road Kinston, NC 28504-8614 e-mail: marty@martygrant.com web: http://www.martygrant.com/gen/patterson.htm -----Original Message----- From: Philip Sheppard <sheppard@hargray.com> To: NCMACON-L@rootsweb.com <NCMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 5:48 PM Subject: 1900-1920 Census >Just in case you missed it, I'm hoping that someone has a 1900, 1910, or >1920 census for Macon County for a lookup. > >Also, was the area around Qualla part of Macon County in 1836. I'm trying to >remember if Macon or Swain came first. Or was it Jackson? > >The focus of the lookup I need is Jerry Monroe Patterson who was born in the >Qualla Township in 1836. I am hoping a later census will show where his >father was born. I don't have a first name for his father, but I'm hoping it >will show a county of birth so that I can narrow down my research. > >Jerry moved with his wife, Julie Kerr (Carr), and children to the Cowee >Valley about 1895. Jerry and Julie and some of the children are buried at >Snow Hill Methodist Church Cemetery. > >Thanks! > >Philip Sheppard >Beaufort, South Carolina >

More info on this family group is at http://www.martygrant.com Libby Nations wrote: > Phillip, I found some Patterson's in the Swain Co., NC Heritage Book. Not > sure they will help you out. But here is: Captain Sam Patterson of Union > County, GA. is listed as commanding officer of his company the "Union > Invincibles". Samuel was born in 1805 and was married to Jane Moore who was > born in 1815. Carroll Moore Patterson was the son of Samuel and Jane > Patterson. Carroll served in the Confederate Army. He was married to Lavina > Elizabeth Cathey Patterson. They came to Swain County close to the end of > the Civil War. They came from Chathume County, GA. which was renamed Union > County. They came by way of covered wagon. The land they owned in GA was an > Indian Grant of 160 acres. It was purchased from the Cherokee Indians > through the Governor of GA. Carroll M. Patterson was born March 7, 1832 and > died Jan. 4, 1914. Lavina E. Cathey Patterson was born July 29, 1844 and > died May 21, 1917. Carroll andLavina were one of the earliest families who > settled the Grassy Branch Community of Swain Co. They had four sons and > four daughters. They were Homes, Lon, Decater, Jim., Nancy, Julie, Rindy > and Jenny. Homes married Addie Delozier and they lived at Judson, NC. > Their children were Fannie Bur, Sam, Bill, Kenyen, John, Frank and Hattie > Mae. Decater married Amanda Jenkins and they made their home on Grassy > Branch near Bryson City, their children were Hester, Flora, Vergie, Lillie, > Minnie, Bob, Ed, Fred, Floyd and Walter. Lon married Nora Cambey and they > lived in Swain Co. most of their lives. They had only one child, Willie > Bell. Jim lived in Swain Co. all of his life and never married. Nancy > Angeline Patterson was born April 14, 1866 and married William A. Revis on > May 20, 1886. She died in 1929 and was buried in Etowah, TN. Two children > Mary E. Revis born March 12, 1887 and Louis D. Revis. Julie married Henry > Greene. Their children were Bessie, Maude, Thad, Claude, Ethel, Walter, > Harley and Alex. Rindy married Zack Guffey. They lived in Cherokee Co., NC. > most of their lives . They had one son Wade Guffey. Jennie married Curtis > Fox and lived in Swain Co. Their children were Willard, Lenna, Edna, Grace > and Winston. (Submitted by Grace F. Gregory) > Hope this is some help. Libby Nations -- Linda Hoxit Raxter lraxter@citcom.net http://www.rootsquest.com/~alextree related to at least half the county at least once ; )

Was someone looking for the name Cathey? Libby Nations

Phillip, I found some Patterson's in the Swain Co., NC Heritage Book. Not sure they will help you out. But here is: Captain Sam Patterson of Union County, GA. is listed as commanding officer of his company the "Union Invincibles". Samuel was born in 1805 and was married to Jane Moore who was born in 1815. Carroll Moore Patterson was the son of Samuel and Jane Patterson. Carroll served in the Confederate Army. He was married to Lavina Elizabeth Cathey Patterson. They came to Swain County close to the end of the Civil War. They came from Chathume County, GA. which was renamed Union County. They came by way of covered wagon. The land they owned in GA was an Indian Grant of 160 acres. It was purchased from the Cherokee Indians through the Governor of GA. Carroll M. Patterson was born March 7, 1832 and died Jan. 4, 1914. Lavina E. Cathey Patterson was born July 29, 1844 and died May 21, 1917. Carroll andLavina were one of the earliest families who settled the Grassy Branch Community of Swain Co. They had four sons and four daughters. They were Homes, Lon, Decater, Jim., Nancy, Julie, Rindy and Jenny. Homes married Addie Delozier and they lived at Judson, NC. Their children were Fannie Bur, Sam, Bill, Kenyen, John, Frank and Hattie Mae. Decater married Amanda Jenkins and they made their home on Grassy Branch near Bryson City, their children were Hester, Flora, Vergie, Lillie, Minnie, Bob, Ed, Fred, Floyd and Walter. Lon married Nora Cambey and they lived in Swain Co. most of their lives. They had only one child, Willie Bell. Jim lived in Swain Co. all of his life and never married. Nancy Angeline Patterson was born April 14, 1866 and married William A. Revis on May 20, 1886. She died in 1929 and was buried in Etowah, TN. Two children Mary E. Revis born March 12, 1887 and Louis D. Revis. Julie married Henry Greene. Their children were Bessie, Maude, Thad, Claude, Ethel, Walter, Harley and Alex. Rindy married Zack Guffey. They lived in Cherokee Co., NC. most of their lives . They had one son Wade Guffey. Jennie married Curtis Fox and lived in Swain Co. Their children were Willard, Lenna, Edna, Grace and Winston. (Submitted by Grace F. Gregory) Hope this is some help. Libby Nations

Just in case you missed it, I'm hoping that someone has a 1900, 1910, or 1920 census for Macon County for a lookup. Also, was the area around Qualla part of Macon County in 1836. I'm trying to remember if Macon or Swain came first. Or was it Jackson? The focus of the lookup I need is Jerry Monroe Patterson who was born in the Qualla Township in 1836. I am hoping a later census will show where his father was born. I don't have a first name for his father, but I'm hoping it will show a county of birth so that I can narrow down my research. Jerry moved with his wife, Julie Kerr (Carr), and children to the Cowee Valley about 1895. Jerry and Julie and some of the children are buried at Snow Hill Methodist Church Cemetery. Thanks! Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina

Hey Folks -- My offer to do look-ups in the Macon County Heritage Book still stands. However, I have a request. Several people have written and just asked me to look up "John Doe" -- no other information. Please give me ALL OF THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE, even if it's just approximate dates. In many cases, even if a family isn't written up, there will be mentions in other family write-ups. I'm perfectly willing to sift through these, but it's time-consuming and I need all of the information I can get to help determine what information might be valuable to you. For example -- if your John Doe lived about 1800-1850, then I won't bother transcribing information about John Doe's who don't fit the time frame. Also, a plug of my own -- the Macon County families that I'm researching include Kimsey, Russel/Russell, Strain, Reed and Cathey. Would love to hear from anyone with information on this crew. Regards -- Judy

Evening folks, Anyone know the parents of these two? Effie SHEPHERD MARRIED: George Clingman RABY, 1919 Found them in Peggy Sue Hooper's Welch Database. Here's another Shepherd I can't place (from the same database): Elija A. SHEPHERD MARRIED: Elizabeth Mary RICE, 1875 Finally, this one: G. Patten SHEPHERD MARRIED: Enaretta Adeline WELCH, 31 DEC 1865 I'm not sure that the last couple are Macon County folks, but just in case... Finally, does anyone have a 1900 or 1910 Macon County census. I really NEED a lookup, PLEASE! Many kind regards, Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina Listowner: NCMACON, NCRTRANSY

Hi Philip, I loved 'you know you are taking genealogy too seriously.....' . Many Thanks, Gail Robinson

Greetings all, I have been on the road for about 2 months so I had to unsubscribe and resubscribe. Hope I haven't missed too much. Thought I would repost my surnames from the area and see if I can help or be helped by anyone. Here goes: HOLBROOK, MOORE, ROTEN, KILPATRICK, HIGDON, SETZER, BUCHANAN, BLACK, AND STEWART. If anyone has anything on these surnames I would love to exchange info. Also check out my homepage on family treemaker to see if we make any connections. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/c/h/Christopher-E-Schultheis/index.html Chris Schultheis.....

Hi all -- I'm new to this list, and saw several surname postings, so thought I'd post mine. My Macon Co. connections include: Kimsey, Strain, Reed, Russel(l), Cathey and possibly McClure. Also, have the Heritage Book of Macon Co. and will do look-ups, should anyone need one. Judy

Dear Folks, Sorry about the redundant messages about subscribing. Poor eyesight and a weakening mind.... Gotta read those headers more carefully and get rid of my respond to all command in my mail program. Regards, Philip Sheppard Listowner: NCMACON, NCTRANSY

Dear Friends, I just had to forward this for our own personal introspection and a good laugh. It's just too true (well, in my case it gets pretty close...) Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina Listowner: NCMACON, NCTRANSY >You Know You're Taking Genealogy Too Seriously If .. > > In order to put the "final touches" on your genealogical research, > you've asked all of your closest relatives to provide DNA samples. > > You are the only person to show up at the cemetery research party > with a shovel. > > You were instrumental in having "non-genealogical use of the >genealogy > room copy machine" classified as a federal hate crime. > > Your house leans slightly toward the side where your genealogical > records are stored. > > You decided to take a two-week break from genealogy, and the U.S. >Postal > Office immediately laid off 1,500 employees. > > Out of respect for your best friend's unquestioned reputation for >honesty > and integrity, you are willing to turn off that noisy surveillance >camera >while she reviews your 57 genealogical research notebooks in your >home. > The armed security guard, however, will remain. > > You plod merrily along "refining" your recently published family >history, > blissfully unaware that the number of errata pages now far exceeds >the > number of pages in your original publication. > > During an ice storm and power outage, you ignore the pleas of your > shivering spouse and place your last quilt around that 1886 >photograph > of dear Uncle George. > > The most recent document in your "Missing Ancestors" file is a >36-page > contract between you and Johnson Billboard Advertising Company. > > Ed McMahon, several t.v. cameras and an envelope from Publishers > Clearing House arrive at your front door on Super Bowl Sunday, and >the > first thing you say is, "Are you related to the McMahons of Ohio?". > > "A Loving Family" and "Financial Security" have moved up to second >and > third, respectively, on your list of life's goals, but still lag far > behind "Owning My Own Microfilm Reader." > > A magical genie appears and agrees to grant your any one wish, And you > ask that the 1890 census be restored. > >

At 06:46 PM 9/17/98 -0400, Carolyn Collier wrote: >Hi, >Does anyone know where I can find a map of Macon County townships? I would >like to put one on the Macon History page. > >Thanks, > >Carolyn Collier Message to Cousin Jo follows this response to Carolyn. Hi, Carolyn, The only one I've seen isn't online (which isn't much help, is it?). It's one I bought at a gas station in Franklin on my last visit there in April. The map was sponsored by the Franklin Area Chamber of Commerce and published by: Accurate Maps P. O. Box 90604 Columbia, South Carolina 29290 (803) 782-8001 It has all of the townships in different colors. Quite nice. Just wish they listed the names of more of the creeks and streams and mountains! I'd still like to get my Shepherd/Welch/Dalton/Patterson descendants on your page. Wonder how we'll figure that one out! <G> Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina Message to Cousin Jo Fender: Yes, I received your Macon County info, and WOW, what a great piece of work. I've already found new info there! Many, Many, Thanks!!!! Now I owe you MORE than just the end of my continuing story... Cuz Philip

Hi, Does anyone know where I can find a map of Macon County townships? I would like to put one on the Macon History page. Thanks, Carolyn Collier http://www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/7305 http://www.usgennet.org/alhnncus/ahncmaco