Robert The Monroe Co TN Clemmers were Lutheran. We have not, definately, proven that these Young's are connected to the Clemmers before their arrival in Monroe. Most have John David Young connected to Peter Young in North Carolina but having done a few hours research on the families I'm not very sure of this. We have here in McMinn a very interesting lineage of Youngs from Jefferson County. These Young's are involved with the Whites. A descendent, Ewing Young, was a fabled character in Taos New Mexico and a very early settler/trader in Oregon (very early 1800's) There has been a book written about him. It is possible that John David Young was in this same line. I did not get to complete this research. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE,JUNG/YOUNG, DETTRO > Hal, > > I am not descended from either of these families. I have done > considerable > research on early German families. I live about 2 or 3 miles from the old > Clemmer Graveyard on White and Jenkins Road. > > I had relied upon OUR KIN by L. M. Hoffman as the best source for these > families. As with many older genealogies, Hoffman did not have access to > all the records and tended to simplify families based upon oral tradition > without proving through documentation. Other researchers, maybe you, have > since proven that Valentine Clemmer did not come to Gaston County but > died, > I think, in York Co., PA. (I do not have my notes with me) His wife took > another husband in Rowan County. Their connection with the Duttero family > served as a vehicle for both families to come to NC. Is this correct? It > is what I have read. > > Were your Clemmers Dunker? Church of the Brethren? How about the > Dutteros? > I have also been reseraching this most interesting group of settlers. > Many > Brethren (Dunkers) came to NC after the American Revolution. > > Where did your Yung family settle? > > I was aware that a number of Clemmers moved to Tennessee. The area of > Blount and Monroe Counties in Tennessee are full of old Lincoln County, NC > families. > > I hope this gives you my perspective. Let me hear from you soon. > > Robert Carpenter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen > SLAGLE,JUNG/YOUNG, DETTRO > > >> Hi Robert. My DETTRO & CLEMMER fam arr Dallas area bef 1800 with my >> YOUNGs >> arr 1805-10 era. My part of these lines went on to Monroe Co, TN ca 1830 >> and to TX ca 1860s. >> The SLAGLE & MILLERs were traveling partners but don't know of any direct >> connections. >> It appears that all these fam were German but got diluted in the 1800s! >> R U connected to any of these? >> Best, >> Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 >> <HalMac@Cox.net> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen >> SLAGLE,JUNG/YOUNG, DETTRO >> >> >>> Hal, >>> >>> Which of these families resided in Lincoln County, NC and when did they >>> arrive? >>> >>> We have Slagle, Dettero (Tutherow), and Young (both German and English >>> names) in the area west of the Catawba River. We also have a number of >>> Miller families here as well. >>> >>> Robert Carpenter >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> >>> To: "MDFREDER-L" <MDFREDER-L@rootsweb.com>; "Rowan-L" >>> <RowanRoots-L@rootsweb.com>; "NCDAVIE-L" <NCDAVIE-L@rootsweb.com>; >>> <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 3:37 PM >>> Subject: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE, >>> JUNG/YOUNG,DETTRO >>> >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> >>>> To: <payork@rootsweb.com> >>>> Cc: "Palmer, Ben" <Palsy2001@Yahoo.com>; "Larry Dutter" >>>> <LDutter@aol.com>; >>>> "Young, Roland" <skepglen@ixp.net>; "Landers, Lois" >>>> <mtnwoman@getgoin.net>; >>>> "Siegert, Alta" <Altajnet@comcast.net>; "Palmer, Ben" >>>> <Palsy2003@aol.com>; >>>> "Anders, Martha Kable" <mkableanders@yahoo.com>; "Cindy Morris" >>>> <cindylmorris@msn.com>; <susanpatt@mac.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:32 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Evan. I read your post with interest as I and others are currently >>>>> researching DETTRO, YOUNG/JUNG, and SLAGLE families of the 1700s in >>>>> York/Berks Cos, PA and Frederick Co, MD and lastly in Rowan/Lincoln >>>>> Cos, >>>>> NC. >>>>> The SLAGLEs were neighbors/in-laws along the way. >>>>> We have a Henry SLAGLE we be believe d ca 1783 at location unk >>>>> [leaving >>>>> 7 >>>>> ch] with his widow Elizabeth JAHN? SLAGLE m 2 Nov 1784 Geo Baltes >>>>> DETTRO >>>>> in Frederick Co, MD. >>>>> It appears from your below York Co, PA will of Ludwig MILLER was >>>>> written >>>>> and wit by Henry SLAGLE et al on 7 Mar 1783 but Henry SLAGLE was not >>>>> present for the 13 Oct 1788 proving of the will. >>>>> It therefore would appear possible for your Henry to be our Henry?? >>>>> Could you give us a timeline for the residences for your MILLER family >>>>> in >>>>> the 1700s? >>>>> Best, >>>>> Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 >>>>> <HalMac@Cox.net> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Evan Deardorff" <evand@deardorff.com> >>>>> To: <payork@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:17 PM >>>>> Subject: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The will of Ludwig MILLER 1788, Germany Twp, York Co, PA is in the >>>>>> USGenWeb Archives. [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> The will mentions three children of Ludwig MILLER: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Nicholas MILLER >>>>>> - Ludwig MILLER >>>>>> - Ann Marie/Mary MILLER >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I find the names of the spouses of these children? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The will also mentions Hen SLAGLE (Henry SLAGLE Esq). >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I find: >>>>>> >>>>>> - the names of the children of Hen SLAGLE? >>>>>> - the names of their spouses? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Evan Deardorff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> NOTES: >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/york/wills/miller-ludwick1788.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ********* >>>>>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK >>>>>> ********* >>>>>> Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are >>>>>> gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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