Many of us on these genealogy lists have used the LDS Family History Centers, so it came as good news to me that they are in the beta stages of testing a site that will eventually have all their records on it. You can actually use it and help test it. It's FamilySearch.org . Knowing the LDS church, they will NEVER charge for this service. Experience in the History Centers should testify to that. I quit Ancestry.com last year when I heard about the LDS site. I can be patient while they get it up and running. I think these other places which are also based in Utah (translated--ancestry) are just trying to make their last bit of money from those of us who seem desperate to find that one piece of information. Anyway, my suggestion is to continue sharing on these lists, and quit paying for other services. Once the LDS site is up I suspect it will be as good as or even better than Ancestry--translated rip-off. my two cents val -- Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> wrote: Dear Brownie and list, Thanks for the kind words. I do what I can to provide information to those who browse our "West-of-the-Catawba" pages. The opportunities for researchers to find free genealogical information is fast disappearing. As long as I maintain the pages that are of help to my fellow researchers, I will endeavor to make all web postings free and available. Many Lincoln and Gaston cemetery pages have been restored by the efforts of those who share my philosophy of FREE GENEALOGY. I will soon be posting the records of the Cleveland County WPA Cemetery records on the web. Many folks are aware that Ann Propst and I created a CD with these records that were originally made available to the public for a fee. Hundreds of hours were spent in making this information available to researchers. The only reason that a price was put on the CD was to recoup the time and expenses incurred in creating it. Since we have been able to break even (just barely), we are going to make the information public, in spite of the fact that we still have a bunch of CD's in inventory. I continue to solicit any and all cemetery surveys from folks who believe as I do, that freely gathered information should be shared with those who freely seek it. If readers of this post have material relating to cemeteries in Catawba, Lincoln, Burke, Gaston and Cleveland Counties that they would be willing to post on the NCGenWeb pages, I will be happy to credit the contributors and will offer the assurance that their material will be copyrighted in their name and be freely available to the public, in perpetuity, with any subscription fees. Thanks to all, Derick S. Hartshorn former NC State Coordinator, NCGenWeb Project current USGenWeb Project-County Coordinator Catawba/Burke/Lincoln/Gaston/Cleveland, NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/ At 03:50 PM 3/9/2008, you wrote: > Dear All: > >*Derick Hartshorne said: Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a good >deal of information >from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have >made to make information available. * > >Find-a-Grave is a wonderful source; I have contributed as well, because I >have found long lost ancestors' burial places there; however, I recently >was perusing FOOTNOTES.COM as a "free" member to try it out. I ran across a >statement where Footnotes.com will be acquiring Find-a-Grave. I decided to >go into deep denial, because Footnotes is initially free for limited >research but is charging for full membership. Footnotes.com is based in >Utah. All the good free sites are diminishing rapidly, and they're all going >to Utah. Must be the climate. ? I think we've all been "had." I stay >totally confused regarding copyright laws for material that should be in the >public domain and available for everyone's perusal regardless of who has >it. And I become totally irritated when I go to a "free" site, search, and >the answer to my query is embedded in a paid site, where I'm denied access >unless I join and pay for a years' membership. Happened just this morning. >It's a total waste of my time and energy. I don't mind paying for postage >and copying ever...nor paying for someone's time spent on help, but having >to pay to get into a site to simply view information that is over a hundred >years old is ludicrous. > > >Brownie MacKie >Total Skeptic and proud of it ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Click for FHA loan, $0 lender fees, low rates & approvals nationwide http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mItjUqTdO2zzT7jjjvzWxkY5O7nKvHPd4FdF3usCOJMjhsi/
Knowing the LDS church, they will NEVER charge for this service. Val...don't you think that the LDS *owns *Ancestry.com and all its subsidiaries? If not, please tell me! Thanks. Brownie On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Val <vwilliams@juno.com> wrote: > Many of us on these genealogy lists have used the LDS Family History > Centers, so it came as good news to me that they are in the beta stages of > testing a site that will eventually have all their records on it. You can > actually use it and help test it. It's FamilySearch.org . Knowing the LDS > church, they will NEVER charge for this service. Experience in the History > Centers should testify to that. I quit Ancestry.com last year when I > heard about the LDS site. I can be patient while they get it up and > running. I think these other places which are also based in Utah > (translated--ancestry) are just trying to make their last bit of money from > those of us who seem desperate to find that one piece of information. > > Anyway, my suggestion is to continue sharing on these lists, and quit > paying for other services. Once the LDS site is up I suspect it will be as > good as or even better than Ancestry--translated rip-off. > > my two cents > val > > > -- Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> wrote: > Dear Brownie and list, > > Thanks for the kind words. I do what I can to provide information to > those who browse our "West-of-the-Catawba" pages. > The opportunities for researchers to find free genealogical > information is fast disappearing. As long as I maintain the pages > that are of help to my fellow researchers, I will endeavor to make > all web postings free and available. Many Lincoln and Gaston cemetery > pages have been restored by the efforts of those who share my > philosophy of FREE GENEALOGY. I will soon be posting the records of > the Cleveland County WPA Cemetery records on the web. > > Many folks are aware that Ann Propst and I created a CD with these > records that were originally made available to the public for a fee. > Hundreds of hours were spent in making this information available to > researchers. The only reason that a price was put on the CD was to > recoup the time and expenses incurred in creating it. Since we have > been able to break even (just barely), we are going to make the > information public, in spite of the fact that we still have a bunch > of CD's in inventory. > > I continue to solicit any and all cemetery surveys from folks who > believe as I do, that freely gathered information should be shared > with those who freely seek it. > If readers of this post have material relating to cemeteries in > Catawba, Lincoln, Burke, Gaston and Cleveland Counties that they > would be willing to post on the NCGenWeb pages, I will be happy to > credit the contributors and will offer the assurance that their > material will be copyrighted in their name and be freely available to > the public, in perpetuity, with any subscription fees. > > Thanks to all, > > Derick S. Hartshorn > former NC State Coordinator, NCGenWeb Project > current USGenWeb Project-County Coordinator > Catawba/Burke/Lincoln/Gaston/Cleveland, NC > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enccatawb/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encburke/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enclincol/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encgaston/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encclevel/> > > > > > At 03:50 PM 3/9/2008, you wrote: > > Dear All: > > > >*Derick Hartshorne said: Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a > good > >deal of information > >from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have > >made to make information available. * > > > >Find-a-Grave is a wonderful source; I have contributed as well, because I > >have found long lost ancestors' burial places there; however, I > recently > >was perusing FOOTNOTES.COM as a "free" member to try it out. I ran > across a > >statement where Footnotes.com will be acquiring Find-a-Grave. I decided > to > >go into deep denial, because Footnotes is initially free for limited > >research but is charging for full membership. Footnotes.com is based in > >Utah. All the good free sites are diminishing rapidly, and they're all > going > >to Utah. Must be the climate. ? I think we've all been "had." I stay > >totally confused regarding copyright laws for material that should be in > the > >public domain and available for everyone's perusal regardless of who has > >it. And I become totally irritated when I go to a "free" site, search, > and > >the answer to my query is embedded in a paid site, where I'm denied > access > >unless I join and pay for a years' membership. Happened just this > morning. > >It's a total waste of my time and energy. I don't mind paying for > postage > >and copying ever...nor paying for someone's time spent on help, but > having > >to pay to get into a site to simply view information that is over a > hundred > >years old is ludicrous. > > > > > >Brownie MacKie > >Total Skeptic and proud of it > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click for FHA loan, $0 lender fees, low rates & approvals nationwide > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mItjUqTdO2zzT7jjjvzWxkY5O7nKvHPd4FdF3usCOJMjhsi/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
LDS DOES NOT own Ancestry. The Generations Network is the corporate head of this business. LDS is data gathering. Period. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brownie MacKie" <lumackie@gmail.com> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Find-a-Grave and Ethics in genealogy > Knowing the LDS church, they will NEVER charge for this service. > > Val...don't you think that the LDS *owns *Ancestry.com and all its > subsidiaries? If not, please tell me! Thanks. > > Brownie > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Val <vwilliams@juno.com> wrote: > >> Many of us on these genealogy lists have used the LDS Family History >> Centers, so it came as good news to me that they are in the beta stages >> of >> testing a site that will eventually have all their records on it. You can >> actually use it and help test it. It's FamilySearch.org . Knowing the >> LDS >> church, they will NEVER charge for this service. Experience in the >> History >> Centers should testify to that. I quit Ancestry.com last year when I >> heard about the LDS site. I can be patient while they get it up and >> running. I think these other places which are also based in Utah >> (translated--ancestry) are just trying to make their last bit of money >> from >> those of us who seem desperate to find that one piece of information. >> >> Anyway, my suggestion is to continue sharing on these lists, and quit >> paying for other services. Once the LDS site is up I suspect it will be >> as >> good as or even better than Ancestry--translated rip-off. >> >> my two cents >> val >> >> >> -- Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> wrote: >> Dear Brownie and list, >> >> Thanks for the kind words. I do what I can to provide information to >> those who browse our "West-of-the-Catawba" pages. >> The opportunities for researchers to find free genealogical >> information is fast disappearing. As long as I maintain the pages >> that are of help to my fellow researchers, I will endeavor to make >> all web postings free and available. Many Lincoln and Gaston cemetery >> pages have been restored by the efforts of those who share my >> philosophy of FREE GENEALOGY. I will soon be posting the records of >> the Cleveland County WPA Cemetery records on the web. >> >> Many folks are aware that Ann Propst and I created a CD with these >> records that were originally made available to the public for a fee. >> Hundreds of hours were spent in making this information available to >> researchers. The only reason that a price was put on the CD was to >> recoup the time and expenses incurred in creating it. Since we have >> been able to break even (just barely), we are going to make the >> information public, in spite of the fact that we still have a bunch >> of CD's in inventory. >> >> I continue to solicit any and all cemetery surveys from folks who >> believe as I do, that freely gathered information should be shared >> with those who freely seek it. >> If readers of this post have material relating to cemeteries in >> Catawba, Lincoln, Burke, Gaston and Cleveland Counties that they >> would be willing to post on the NCGenWeb pages, I will be happy to >> credit the contributors and will offer the assurance that their >> material will be copyrighted in their name and be freely available to >> the public, in perpetuity, with any subscription fees. >> >> Thanks to all, >> >> Derick S. Hartshorn >> former NC State Coordinator, NCGenWeb Project >> current USGenWeb Project-County Coordinator >> Catawba/Burke/Lincoln/Gaston/Cleveland, NC >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enccatawb/> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encburke/> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enclincol/> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encgaston/> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encclevel/> >> >> >> >> >> At 03:50 PM 3/9/2008, you wrote: >> > Dear All: >> > >> >*Derick Hartshorne said: Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a >> good >> >deal of information >> >from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have >> >made to make information available. * >> > >> >Find-a-Grave is a wonderful source; I have contributed as well, because >> >I >> >have found long lost ancestors' burial places there; however, I >> recently >> >was perusing FOOTNOTES.COM as a "free" member to try it out. I ran >> across a >> >statement where Footnotes.com will be acquiring Find-a-Grave. I decided >> to >> >go into deep denial, because Footnotes is initially free for limited >> >research but is charging for full membership. Footnotes.com is based in >> >Utah. All the good free sites are diminishing rapidly, and they're all >> going >> >to Utah. Must be the climate. ? I think we've all been "had." I stay >> >totally confused regarding copyright laws for material that should be in >> the >> >public domain and available for everyone's perusal regardless of who has >> >it. And I become totally irritated when I go to a "free" site, search, >> and >> >the answer to my query is embedded in a paid site, where I'm denied >> access >> >unless I join and pay for a years' membership. Happened just this >> morning. >> >It's a total waste of my time and energy. I don't mind paying for >> postage >> >and copying ever...nor paying for someone's time spent on help, but >> having >> >to pay to get into a site to simply view information that is over a >> hundred >> >years old is ludicrous. >> > >> > >> >Brownie MacKie >> >Total Skeptic and proud of it >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> Click for FHA loan, $0 lender fees, low rates & approvals nationwide >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mItjUqTdO2zzT7jjjvzWxkY5O7nKvHPd4FdF3usCOJMjhsi/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 > 1:41 PM > >