Thanks Robert. Will respond within. Thanks for responding. Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE,JUNG/YOUNG, DETTRO > Hal, > > I am not descended from either of these families. I have done considerable > research on early German families. I live about 2 or 3 miles from the old > Clemmer Graveyard on White and Jenkins Road. > > I had relied upon OUR KIN by L. M. Hoffman as the best source for these > families. As with many older genealogies, Hoffman did not have access to > all the records and tended to simplify families based upon oral tradition > without proving through documentation. Other researchers, maybe you, have > since proven that Valentine Clemmer did not come to Gaston County but died, in 1785 Petersburg,Germany Township, York,PA > I think, in York Co., PA. (I do not have my notes with me) His wife took William HANCOCK 1 Mar 1792 > another husband in Rowan County. Their connection with the Duttero family > served as a vehicle for both families to come to NC. Is this correct? It > is what I have read. Yes for DETTRO & CLEMMER & maybe the YOUNGs. > > Were your Clemmers Dunker? Church of the Brethren? How about the Dutteros? Believe they all were Luth. > I have also been reseraching this most interesting group of settlers. Many > Brethren (Dunkers) came to NC after the American Revolution. > > Where did your Yung family settle? No idea, Wm & Juliana YOUNG/JUNG vanished in 1780s Frederick Co, MD > > I was aware that a number of Clemmers moved to Tennessee. The area of > Blount and Monroe Counties in Tennessee are full of old Lincoln County, NC > families. Yes, many fam from Gaston Co, NC > > I hope this gives you my perspective. Let me hear from you soon. > > Robert Carpenter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen > SLAGLE,JUNG/YOUNG, DETTRO > > >> Hi Robert. My DETTRO & CLEMMER fam arr Dallas area bef 1800 with my >> YOUNGs >> arr 1805-10 era. My part of these lines went on to Monroe Co, TN ca 1830 >> and to TX ca 1860s. >> The SLAGLE & MILLERs were traveling partners but don't know of any direct >> connections. >> It appears that all these fam were German but got diluted in the 1800s! >> R U connected to any of these? >> Best, >> Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 >> <HalMac@Cox.net> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen >> SLAGLE,JUNG/YOUNG, DETTRO >> >> >>> Hal, >>> >>> Which of these families resided in Lincoln County, NC and when did they >>> arrive? >>> >>> We have Slagle, Dettero (Tutherow), and Young (both German and English >>> names) in the area west of the Catawba River. We also have a number of >>> Miller families here as well. >>> >>> Robert Carpenter >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> >>> To: "MDFREDER-L" <MDFREDER-L@rootsweb.com>; "Rowan-L" >>> <RowanRoots-L@rootsweb.com>; "NCDAVIE-L" <NCDAVIE-L@rootsweb.com>; >>> <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 3:37 PM >>> Subject: [NCLINCOL] Fw: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE, >>> JUNG/YOUNG,DETTRO >>> >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> >>>> To: <payork@rootsweb.com> >>>> Cc: "Palmer, Ben" <Palsy2001@Yahoo.com>; "Larry Dutter" >>>> <LDutter@aol.com>; >>>> "Young, Roland" <skepglen@ixp.net>; "Landers, Lois" >>>> <mtnwoman@getgoin.net>; >>>> "Siegert, Alta" <Altajnet@comcast.net>; "Palmer, Ben" >>>> <Palsy2003@aol.com>; >>>> "Anders, Martha Kable" <mkableanders@yahoo.com>; "Cindy Morris" >>>> <cindylmorris@msn.com>; <susanpatt@mac.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:32 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Evan. I read your post with interest as I and others are currently >>>>> researching DETTRO, YOUNG/JUNG, and SLAGLE families of the 1700s in >>>>> York/Berks Cos, PA and Frederick Co, MD and lastly in Rowan/Lincoln >>>>> Cos, >>>>> NC. >>>>> The SLAGLEs were neighbors/in-laws along the way. >>>>> We have a Henry SLAGLE we be believe d ca 1783 at location unk [leaving >>>>> 7 >>>>> ch] with his widow Elizabeth JAHN? SLAGLE m 2 Nov 1784 Geo Baltes >>>>> DETTRO >>>>> in Frederick Co, MD. >>>>> It appears from your below York Co, PA will of Ludwig MILLER was >>>>> written >>>>> and wit by Henry SLAGLE et al on 7 Mar 1783 but Henry SLAGLE was not >>>>> present for the 13 Oct 1788 proving of the will. >>>>> It therefore would appear possible for your Henry to be our Henry?? >>>>> Could you give us a timeline for the residences for your MILLER family >>>>> in >>>>> the 1700s? >>>>> Best, >>>>> Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 >>>>> <HalMac@Cox.net> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Evan Deardorff" <evand@deardorff.com> >>>>> To: <payork@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:17 PM >>>>> Subject: [PAYork] Ludwig MILLER 1788 / Hen SLAGLE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The will of Ludwig MILLER 1788, Germany Twp, York Co, PA is in the >>>>>> USGenWeb Archives. [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> The will mentions three children of Ludwig MILLER: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Nicholas MILLER >>>>>> - Ludwig MILLER >>>>>> - Ann Marie/Mary MILLER >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I find the names of the spouses of these children? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The will also mentions Hen SLAGLE (Henry SLAGLE Esq). >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I find: >>>>>> >>>>>> - the names of the children of Hen SLAGLE? >>>>>> - the names of their spouses? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Evan Deardorff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> NOTES: >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/york/wills/miller-ludwick1788.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ********* >>>>>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK >>>>>> ********* >>>>>> Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are >>>>>> gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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