Good morning, Derick! Thank you for this summary from George Cline's book. I know that others on the Lincoln and Catawba lists will want to have a copy of it. At the same time, I realize you are not permitted (for good reason) to send attachments on the lists; so, I would assume that if anyone writes you privately that you will be happy to send a copy to anyone requesting it. George Cline, Jr., appears to have the correct information about Thomas Cline's marriage to Sally Mitchum, October 18, 1825, in Lincoln County, North Carolina; however, from early Lancaster County, Pennsylvania census records, together with 1882 recorded statements of this couple's son, Thomas Knight Cline, (d. 1868, Bond County, Illinois), the father of Sally Mitchum Cline's husband, Thomas Cline, was Henry (Heinrich) Cline (Klein), born in Germany (and not Daniel Cline, b. bet. 1770-1774 in Lincoln County, as recorded by George Cline, Jr.) Other sources report that the father of Henry Cline, above, was Christopher Cline, born about 1740 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, who married Susan Margaret Ramsour, also of Lancaster County, and that Susan Margaret Ramsour Cline died January 5, 1789 in York County, South Carolina. [This same source mentions Johann Sebastian Klein whose Mother was Susan Christian Beaver.] This source is a descendant of David Cline, said to have been a brother of Henry Cline's, father of Thomas Cline, b. 1800 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. I am not sufficiently conversant with Cline Family History to be able to analyze these seemingly conflicting or confused records. I was interested in the Cline clan only to the extent that it involved Sally Mitchum, 1807-1887, of Lincoln County, North Carolina and Bond County, Illinois, wife of the subject Thomas Cline. After many years' painstaking research, it develops, finally, that Sally Mitchum, 1825 bride of Thomas Cline, was an illegitimate daughter of Polly Tucker, of Lincoln County, North Carolina. Sally was referred to in Lincoln County court records as Sally Tucker. [Polly Tucker had four other illegitimate children, referred to in Lincoln County court records as Nancy Scott, John Scott, Barney Williams, and Peggy Brazeal, all of whom ... including Sally Tucker ... were bound as apprentices at various points in time both before and after their Mother's death sometime between 1815 and 1817 even though Polly (Molly) Tucker had married Thomas Tipps in Lincoln County in 1815. At the Tucker/Tipps marriage in 1815, Nathaniel Mitchum served as bondsman and it may have been, as some suspect, that Nathaniel Mitchum was the biological father of Sally Tucker, giving rise to Sally's having reported, upon her marriage to Thomas Cline in 1825, that her name was Sally Mitchum (and not Sally Tucker, the name used at birth.) Ironically, Nathaniel Mitchum, with his wife, Jemima Reynolds Mitchum of Lincoln County (m. 1801 there), had a daughter, born about two years after the birth of Sally Tucker, or in about 1809. This legitimate daughter's name was also Sally Mitchum. It is understandable, then, how we were, for a time, derailed and frustrated in our early research ... attempting to separate, or distinguish between, these two local women with the same name. Focusing on the Bond County, Illinois family of Thomas Cline, though, soon showed us that "our" Sally Mitchum, the wife of Henry Johnson of Lincoln County and known to have been the legitimate daughter of Nathaniel and Jemima Mitchum, could not be the same person as the wife of Thomas Cline in Illinois. Because Sally Tucker/Mitchum Cline, of Illinois (and some of her children's death certificates), used, for Sally Tucker/Mitchum Cline, the maiden surname of "Scott" (the birth surname of two of Sally's four illegitimate siblings), we were further convinced that Sally Tucker/Mitchum Cline was a person separate and apart from Sally Mitchum, designated in the probate court papers of Nathaniel Mitchum as "Sally, wife of Henry Johnson". Bottom line: I understand very little about the enormous Cline family history and therefore do not feel competent to submit information to such Cline experts as George Cline, Jr., the author, in California. I will be glad to transmit the little information we have accumulated; however, it will not be of value to Cline family history researchers except as relates to the infamous "Sally Tucker/Scott/Mitchum" detour. I will e-mail a copy of this e-mail to George Cline, Jr. Alta Mitchem Durden -----Original Message----- From: Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> To: Alta Mitchem Durden <altamdurden@aol.com> Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:19 am Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] surname of Zimmerman changed to Carpenter inLancaster Co. PA ... Alta,    I am attaching a summary from George Cline's book.  Unfortunately, it is out of print and he has made no plans for reprinting it.  If you can fill in what you have on Thomas' family, I would appreciate it.    --Derick    At 01:53 PM 2/17/2008, you wrote:  >Mr. Carpenter:  >  >Do you have any information in your records pertaining to Henry Cline  >(Heinrich Klein/Kline/Cline), said to have been born in Germany and/or  >his son, Thomas Cline, born in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania in 1800,  >who, for a time lived in Lincoln County, North Carolina where Thomas  >Cline, in 1825, married Sally or Sarah Mitchum, before removing to Bond  >County, Illinois where the couple owned real property, lived and raised  >their family, died and are buried in separate cemeteries in Shelby  >County, Illinois (Sarah Cline, d. 1887), and Bond County, Illinois  >(Thomas Cline, d. 1868)?  >  >Thank you.  >  >Alta Mitchum Durden  ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. 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