Debra, This should be the same Elias Rhine (Rine). The ages of the persons given fit with what I have, as only one child, my direct ancestor John, would have been born at that time. Thank you! Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra LaMel" <dlamel@sw.rr.com> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families > Elias is listed in Lincoln Co in 1800 as Elias Rine > Stamped page 885 in lower right hand corner > > 1 Free White Male under 10 > 1 Free White Male 16 thru 25 > 1 Free White Female 16 thru 25 > > 1790 LC NC List > Thom Rhine > 3 Jacob Rine's > Michl Rine > Peter Rine > Phil Rine > > > 1810 LC NC might be him > Ealis/Eales? Rine > 1 Free White Male 26 thru 44 > 1 Free White Female 16 thru 25 > (Ancestry Image # 46 1810 LC NC) > > Debra LaMel TX > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:09 PM > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families > > >>I think he is in the 1800 Lincoln County census but am not sure about the >> 1790 census. >> >> Robert C. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Crain" <craincharles@bellsouth.net> >> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >> >> >>> Robert, >>> >>> I have ordered the book by Dr. Rhyne. I sent my order last Friday and am >>> looking forward to receiving it soon. I'm glad that you brought up the >>> fact >>> that it is a more current history. >>> >>> Any information that you could find on Elias Rhine would be greatly >>> appreciated. I have found him in census records in 1820 in TN and then >>> in >>> IL >>> in 1830 and 1840, but nothing prior to that. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Barbara >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>> >>> >>>> Dear Barbara Rhine Crain, >>>> >>>> I would also suggest that you purchase the Rhyne research of Dr. Howard >>>> Rhyne from the Gaston County Museum. This book was printed by the >>>> Gaston >>>> Lincoln Genealogical Society and is a more current history of the Rhyne >>>> family as delineated through many sources not used by Hoffman in Our >>>> Kin. >>>> >>>> I have seen the Elias Rhine or Rine in the records. I am not sure that >>>> he >>>> directly relates to the Jacob Rein who is detailed in Our Kin. The Dr. >>>> Howard Rhyne book explains how, Martin Rein, brother of Jacob Rein, >>>> died >>>> in >>>> Pennsylvania and that his family came to North Carolina. His most >>>> famous >>>> son was Thomas Rhyne who built a brick house in 1799 which is still >>>> standing. >>>> >>>> I will search some of my records to see if I can come up with anything >>>> on >>>> Elias Rine. >>>> >>>> Robert Carpenter >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Charles Crain" <craincharles@bellsouth.net> >>>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>>> >>>> >>>>> Susan, >>>>> >>>>> I do have the connection between the HOYLE-RHYNE families that you >>>>> mention >>>>> below. I have also considered the possibility that Elias went by >>>>> another >>>>> name in NC and then used his middle (or first) name when he moved >>>>> first >>>>> to >>>>> TN and then to IL. It would answer many questions that I have. I do >>>>> have >>>>> 11 >>>>> children for Jacob RHYNE and Maria Elizabeth BEST. However, I have >>>>> asked >>>>> the >>>>> sources that I had for further verification that Elias is one of their >>>>> children and have received no answer. Of the five children that I have >>>>> for >>>>> Elias RHINE, the first 4 listed their place of birth as NC in Census >>>>> Records. The youngest had TN as hers. I found Elias RHINE in Smith >>>>> Co., >>>>> TN >>>>> in 1820, but I cannot find him prior to that. Because the youngest's >>>>> birthdate was about 1814, that does agree with the later census >>>>> records. >>>>> I do have the phone number for the Gaston County Museum, but they were >>>>> closed today. I do intend to contact them and see if the book is >>>>> available >>>>> there. >>>>> I look forward to hearing from you. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> Barbara Rhine Crain >>>>> Summerville, SC >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Susan Marks" <marksr1@ftc-i.net> >>>>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:09 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Barbara >>>>>> I am not researching the Rhyne family but am researching the Hoyle >>>>>> family >>>>>> in >>>>>> Gaston County. The Hoyle and Rhyne families are somehow connected. >>>>>> I have several research books about Gaston County Families. >>>>>> In Our Kin by Laban Miles Hoffman: >>>>>> Jacob Rhyne married Maria Elizabeth Best, daughter of Bastian Best. >>>>>> Their children were: >>>>>> Michael Rhyne who married Catharine Hoffman, daughter of Jacob >>>>>> Hoffman, >>>>>> 2nd. >>>>>> Martin Rhyne who married Jane Freeman (possibly nee Holland) in 1797 >>>>>> Jacob Rhyne who married Elizabeth Hoffman, daughter of Jacob Hoffman, >>>>>> 2nd >>>>>> Philip Rhyne who married Cath. Totherow, daughter of Jno. Totherow >>>>>> and >>>>>> Susan >>>>>> Chambers >>>>>> Adam Rhyne who married Peggy Best, daughter of Peggy Best >>>>>> Jonas Rhyne who married Anne Kiser in 1812 >>>>>> David Rhyne who married Anne Carpenter in 1816 >>>>>> Thomas Rhyne who married Katie Rudisill, sister to Gentleman Jonas >>>>>> Rudisill; >>>>>> and Eliz. ____, in Mo. >>>>>> Sarah Rhyne who married Samuel Withers in 1812 >>>>>> >>>>>> I did not see the son you are looking for. I purchased this book >>>>>> from >>>>>> the >>>>>> Gaston County Museum, Dallas, NC- >>>>>> http://www.gastoncountymuseum.org >>>>>> You might contact them to see if it is still available, if >>>>>> interested. >>>>>> It >>>>>> has a lot about the Rhyne and Best families. >>>>>> There is a book-Marriage Bonds of Tryon and Lincoln Counties, NC >>>>>> abstracted >>>>>> and indexed by Curtis Bynum, 1929. It is available from the Broad >>>>>> River >>>>>> Genealogical Society. >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbrgs/publications.htm >>>>>> There are a lot of Rhyne marriages listed from about 1797 to about >>>>>> 1857. >>>>>> I did not find a marriage for Elias. Could he have gone by another >>>>>> name? >>>>>> There is Michael Rhyne who married Barbara Weathers in 1809. >>>>>> Let me know if I can be of any help. Good luck with your search. >>>>>> >>>>>> Susan Marks >>>>>> Sumter, SC >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>>>> [mailto:nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Charles Crain >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:23 PM >>>>>> To: NCLINCOL@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>>>>> >>>>>> I just joined this list and I am hoping to find further details >>>>>> regarding >>>>>> the RHINE/RHYNE family that resided in Lincoln/Gaston Counties in the >>>>>> early >>>>>> 1800's. My direct ancestor was Jacob RHYNE (born about 1753 in PA and >>>>>> died >>>>>> 1825 in Lincoln Co., NC). He was married to Maria Elizabeth BEST >>>>>> (born >>>>>> about >>>>>> 1757 and died date unknown in Gaston Co., NC). One of their sons was >>>>>> Elias >>>>>> RHINE, born about 1778 in NC and died in Gallatin/Saline County in IL >>>>>> between 1840-1850. His wife was Barbary ? who died before 1834. Elias >>>>>> and >>>>>> Barbary were likely married in North Carolina and lived there until >>>>>> they >>>>>> moved to TN between 1810-1814. >>>>>> Also, how early were marriage records/bonds kept in this county? >>>>>> Any information on this line would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Barbara RHINE CRAIN >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Barbara You are most welcome! I hate loose ends myself. If you or anyone else want the census images just let me know! I can send them via email as an attachment Just send me a private email. Put Elias in the subject line Debra LaMel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Crain" <craincharles@bellsouth.net> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families > Debra, > > This should be the same Elias Rhine (Rine). The ages of the persons given > fit with what I have, as only one child, my direct ancestor John, would > have > been born at that time. > > Thank you! > Barbara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debra LaMel" <dlamel@sw.rr.com> > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families > > >> Elias is listed in Lincoln Co in 1800 as Elias Rine >> Stamped page 885 in lower right hand corner >> >> 1 Free White Male under 10 >> 1 Free White Male 16 thru 25 >> 1 Free White Female 16 thru 25 >> >> 1790 LC NC List >> Thom Rhine >> 3 Jacob Rine's >> Michl Rine >> Peter Rine >> Phil Rine >> >> >> 1810 LC NC might be him >> Ealis/Eales? Rine >> 1 Free White Male 26 thru 44 >> 1 Free White Female 16 thru 25 >> (Ancestry Image # 46 1810 LC NC) >> >> Debra LaMel TX >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >> >> >>>I think he is in the 1800 Lincoln County census but am not sure about the >>> 1790 census. >>> >>> Robert C. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Charles Crain" <craincharles@bellsouth.net> >>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>> >>> >>>> Robert, >>>> >>>> I have ordered the book by Dr. Rhyne. I sent my order last Friday and >>>> am >>>> looking forward to receiving it soon. I'm glad that you brought up the >>>> fact >>>> that it is a more current history. >>>> >>>> Any information that you could find on Elias Rhine would be greatly >>>> appreciated. I have found him in census records in 1820 in TN and then >>>> in >>>> IL >>>> in 1830 and 1840, but nothing prior to that. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Barbara >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >>>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Barbara Rhine Crain, >>>>> >>>>> I would also suggest that you purchase the Rhyne research of Dr. >>>>> Howard >>>>> Rhyne from the Gaston County Museum. This book was printed by the >>>>> Gaston >>>>> Lincoln Genealogical Society and is a more current history of the >>>>> Rhyne >>>>> family as delineated through many sources not used by Hoffman in Our >>>>> Kin. >>>>> >>>>> I have seen the Elias Rhine or Rine in the records. I am not sure >>>>> that >>>>> he >>>>> directly relates to the Jacob Rein who is detailed in Our Kin. The >>>>> Dr. >>>>> Howard Rhyne book explains how, Martin Rein, brother of Jacob Rein, >>>>> died >>>>> in >>>>> Pennsylvania and that his family came to North Carolina. His most >>>>> famous >>>>> son was Thomas Rhyne who built a brick house in 1799 which is still >>>>> standing. >>>>> >>>>> I will search some of my records to see if I can come up with anything >>>>> on >>>>> Elias Rine. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Carpenter >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Charles Crain" <craincharles@bellsouth.net> >>>>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:53 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Susan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I do have the connection between the HOYLE-RHYNE families that you >>>>>> mention >>>>>> below. I have also considered the possibility that Elias went by >>>>>> another >>>>>> name in NC and then used his middle (or first) name when he moved >>>>>> first >>>>>> to >>>>>> TN and then to IL. It would answer many questions that I have. I do >>>>>> have >>>>>> 11 >>>>>> children for Jacob RHYNE and Maria Elizabeth BEST. However, I have >>>>>> asked >>>>>> the >>>>>> sources that I had for further verification that Elias is one of >>>>>> their >>>>>> children and have received no answer. Of the five children that I >>>>>> have >>>>>> for >>>>>> Elias RHINE, the first 4 listed their place of birth as NC in Census >>>>>> Records. The youngest had TN as hers. I found Elias RHINE in Smith >>>>>> Co., >>>>>> TN >>>>>> in 1820, but I cannot find him prior to that. Because the youngest's >>>>>> birthdate was about 1814, that does agree with the later census >>>>>> records. >>>>>> I do have the phone number for the Gaston County Museum, but they >>>>>> were >>>>>> closed today. I do intend to contact them and see if the book is >>>>>> available >>>>>> there. >>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>> Barbara Rhine Crain >>>>>> Summerville, SC >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Susan Marks" <marksr1@ftc-i.net> >>>>>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:09 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, Barbara >>>>>>> I am not researching the Rhyne family but am researching the Hoyle >>>>>>> family >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Gaston County. The Hoyle and Rhyne families are somehow connected. >>>>>>> I have several research books about Gaston County Families. >>>>>>> In Our Kin by Laban Miles Hoffman: >>>>>>> Jacob Rhyne married Maria Elizabeth Best, daughter of Bastian Best. >>>>>>> Their children were: >>>>>>> Michael Rhyne who married Catharine Hoffman, daughter of Jacob >>>>>>> Hoffman, >>>>>>> 2nd. >>>>>>> Martin Rhyne who married Jane Freeman (possibly nee Holland) in 1797 >>>>>>> Jacob Rhyne who married Elizabeth Hoffman, daughter of Jacob >>>>>>> Hoffman, >>>>>>> 2nd >>>>>>> Philip Rhyne who married Cath. Totherow, daughter of Jno. Totherow >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Susan >>>>>>> Chambers >>>>>>> Adam Rhyne who married Peggy Best, daughter of Peggy Best >>>>>>> Jonas Rhyne who married Anne Kiser in 1812 >>>>>>> David Rhyne who married Anne Carpenter in 1816 >>>>>>> Thomas Rhyne who married Katie Rudisill, sister to Gentleman Jonas >>>>>>> Rudisill; >>>>>>> and Eliz. ____, in Mo. >>>>>>> Sarah Rhyne who married Samuel Withers in 1812 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did not see the son you are looking for. I purchased this book >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Gaston County Museum, Dallas, NC- >>>>>>> http://www.gastoncountymuseum.org >>>>>>> You might contact them to see if it is still available, if >>>>>>> interested. >>>>>>> It >>>>>>> has a lot about the Rhyne and Best families. >>>>>>> There is a book-Marriage Bonds of Tryon and Lincoln Counties, NC >>>>>>> abstracted >>>>>>> and indexed by Curtis Bynum, 1929. It is available from the Broad >>>>>>> River >>>>>>> Genealogical Society. >>>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbrgs/publications.htm >>>>>>> There are a lot of Rhyne marriages listed from about 1797 to about >>>>>>> 1857. >>>>>>> I did not find a marriage for Elias. Could he have gone by another >>>>>>> name? >>>>>>> There is Michael Rhyne who married Barbara Weathers in 1809. >>>>>>> Let me know if I can be of any help. Good luck with your search. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Susan Marks >>>>>>> Sumter, SC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> [mailto:nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Charles Crain >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:23 PM >>>>>>> To: NCLINCOL@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> Subject: [NCLINCOL] Rhine/Rhyne Families >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just joined this list and I am hoping to find further details >>>>>>> regarding >>>>>>> the RHINE/RHYNE family that resided in Lincoln/Gaston Counties in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> early >>>>>>> 1800's. My direct ancestor was Jacob RHYNE (born about 1753 in PA >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> died >>>>>>> 1825 in Lincoln Co., NC). He was married to Maria Elizabeth BEST >>>>>>> (born >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> 1757 and died date unknown in Gaston Co., NC). One of their sons was >>>>>>> Elias >>>>>>> RHINE, born about 1778 in NC and died in Gallatin/Saline County in >>>>>>> IL >>>>>>> between 1840-1850. His wife was Barbary ? who died before 1834. >>>>>>> Elias >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Barbary were likely married in North Carolina and lived there until >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> moved to TN between 1810-1814. >>>>>>> Also, how early were marriage records/bonds kept in this county? >>>>>>> Any information on this line would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Barbara RHINE CRAIN >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes >>>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message