This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: derbymw Surnames: Oyler, Fifer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/1347.1404.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello again, I forgot to ask if you happened to have any family pictures for the tree. Any pictures that would link up to the Oyler tree would be great. You can probably look at my tree and see if there is anyone you may have a picture of. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: derbymw Surnames: Oyler Fifer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/1347.1404.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, glad to talk to another family member. I think he's buried there in bunker hill and my dad still lives there so I could get his headstone picture if you couldn't find it. But if it turns up then you can email it to me at derbymw80@yahoo.com . I'll have to look for that book too. I may be moving to maryland and hope to do some family research while I'm there for school. We'll see what happens with that. I didn't know that he served. Could you send any info on that to me. I'd like to add it to the tree. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I was just wondering if anyone out there has a copy of the estate files for Adam Bolick(Bolch) Jr. He died on 1832 and was survived by his wife Molly. The message boards over at rootsweb.com have some information about it but only bits and pieces. I understand it prints out to eight pages. If necessary, I'll order it myself from the state archives, but I thought I would check and see if anyone else already has it and could at least answer a few questions. In particular, I'd like to find out if there was a sale of items and, if so, the list of people who bought the items. Any help would be much appreciated __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I found this for Derr researchers. I have no idea whether there is a connection. Robert Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: <Palsy2003@aol.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [BRE] The Kuegle Koogle Cugle family > John Derr had: > Ch: > Philip, John, Jacob, Anna Mary, Elizabeth, Catherina. > Roy Wampler, MGSB, vol.25, No4, Fall 1984, p. 416. > #1 M 929.2 DER 1987 > The Derr family, 1750-1986 : with allied families of Baker, Flook, Hoover, > Koogle, Long, Metzger, Smith, Templing, Toms, Yaste, and Youtsey > Wampler, Roy H. > #2 M 929.2 DER 2003 2003 > Supplement to The Derr family, 1750-1986 : with allied families : > including > an account of the descendants of Cornelius E. and Mary E. (Metzger) Derr > from > 1875 to 2003 > Wampler, Roy H. > I have not pursued the Derr family, but others in Frederick County have. > Barbara Kuegel (Koogle) was probably the sister of Christian Kuegel > (Koogle). I > have tentatively assigned them as chidren of an earlier Christan and > Elizabetha Kuegel. This family probably originated at Effringen, > Wildberg, > Wuerttemberg in the 16th century. There were various Christian's and > Adam's and we > haven't sorted them all out yet or determined their relationship. I > haven't heard > of Kuckler or Darr in Frederick Co., Md. That would be an > Americanization. > Ben > > In a message dated 11/9/07 1:03:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, > moulder@city-net.com writes: >> Subj:Re: [BRE] The Kuegle Koogle Cugle family >> Date:11/9/07 1:03:49 AM Eastern Standard Time >> From:moulder@city-net.com >> Reply-to:brethren@rootsweb.com >> To:brethren@rootsweb.com >> >> This is a follow-up to a statement on Koogle in Somerset County, PA, by >> Bill >> Thomas: "There is a family in late 18th >> and early 19th Century living in southern Somerset County (Elk Lick >> Township), named Kuckler/Cuckler." >> >> In Frederick County, MD, Barbara Koogle (1755-1815) married Philip Derr. >> I'm >> looking for a link to the Darr family in Somerset County. My ancestor >> Sarah >> Darr Kimmel (1812-1890) of Jenner Township, Somerset County, may have >> been >> related to a Philip Darr of the same area, so I searched for an elusive >> connection to the Frederick County Derrs. (No luck.) >> >> Also, Christian Kugel in Somerset County helped to administer the will of >> Conrad Thomas Lint, Jr. in 1805. >> >> I have Brethren connections in the Darr, Lint and Kimmel families, and >> would >> share information. >> >> Donna >> > > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: byrona19 Surnames: Oyler, Fifer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/1347.1404.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, this is the right line for sure. Joseph is my 2nd great grand uncle. I thought I had a picture of his headstone, but if I do, it isn't filed in TMG. One of our cousins wrote a book on Jacob's family, that I belive is still available. Write me direct, if you want his contact info. Or check on the Oyler board, in the for sale items. So far we don't have proof of Jacobs parents, though there is one that looks like a good possibility. When you scan your Dad's photos, I would very much like to see what our cousins looked like. FYI, my line is from Henry L, Joseph's younger brother. A number of folks want to tie this Oyler line into Valentine Oyler's line. There is not proof that the two lines are connected, at this time. Also, do you know that Elizabeth's father served in the army three seperate times during the Rev war? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deanna4844 Surnames: Stubbs Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/1239.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Elbridge W. Stubbs was also my ancestor and I'm familiar with the Stubbs reunion picture. I would really like to see any other pictures of the family, especially one of Elbridge Stubbs. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks, If you find them please let me know. Be Well Joe McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jedarr@aol.com> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] NCLINCOL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 149 > > In a message dated 10/30/2007 12:03:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > nclincol-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Hi Jack, > Do you know the Darr family that owned an airport "Darr Field" at > Archdale > just out side of High Point NC? > > Joe McDonald > > > > > Thanks, Joe. I had heard about that somewhere, but I then forgot about > it > until you mentioned it. I haven't researched that one. > > I believe I have determined who the original Lincoln County Darr/Derr was > and have accounted for all except one of the Darr/Derrs who appear in the > 1790 > Lincoln census (Adam is a mystery to me, but he seems to have died or > moved > away.). The first was Laurence/Lorentz, who came from Germany to Lehigh > County, PA, in about 1764 and then moved to Lincoln County, NC, in the > early > 1770s. His two sons, John and Andrew, inherited his original property > and John > ended up selling his share to Andrew and then buying on Leepers Creek. > As > nearly as I can tell from cemetery and court records, Andrew's sons died > young > or, in the case of Joshua Whitlow, without ever marrying (except possibly > Andrew J., whom I have been unable to track). Joshua Whitlow Darr/Derr > owned > Madison Iron Works and was a major land-owner in the area, but since he > had no > issue, I don't know who he passed his estate to. Maybe there is some > connection between his property and Darr field. That is a research > project for > another day. > > I descend from John, who was buried in the Old White Church cemetery in > 1821. John married Susannah Rudisill and had three sons. Valentine > moved to > Stanley, where he was the postmaster, and his descendents, many of whom > appear > in some on-line sources, may still be in North Carolina. David is said > to > have moved to Alabama and I know nothing about him or his descendents. > My > ancestor Henry Rufus died young in 1845 and his wife, Anna Blackburn, and > all of > his children migrated to Arkansas in 1858 with her Blackburn siblings. > Henry > Rufus's three sons, including my great grandfather John Calvin, were the > primary founding fathers of Atkins, Arkansas, a town created when the > railroad > was first put through. > > I don't know where the Darr Field name might come from, but I know that > another Darr branch - possibly Laurentz's siblings - moved into Rowan > County or > Davidson at about the same time that Lorentz moved into Lincoln County, > so the > airfield name might stem from one of descendents of one of those > siblings. > > I would love to learn about any other descendents of immigrant Lorentz > Darr/Derr, whose will was probated in early 1794. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1113 - Release Date: > 11/6/2007 10:04 AM > >

Thank you Lynn! -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af dray74435@mypacks.net Sendt: 4. november 2007 19:10 Til: nclincol@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [NCLINCOL] Platting Land Grants and Deeds There is a link to a program for platting deeds on this page of the Broad River Genealogical Society website. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbrgs/vertical.htm Lynn Wesson -----Original Message----- >From: linda peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >Sent: Nov 3, 2007 4:57 AM >To: nclincol@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Platting Land Grants and Deeds > >Thank you, Kathy! > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af sully1@carolina.rr.com >Sendt: 1. november 2007 20:25 >Til: nclincol@rootsweb.com >Emne: [NCLINCOL] Platting Land Grants and Deeds > >linda peacock wrote: >> Do you or does anyone know of any maps where one can plot the deeds? > >Deed Mapper is a popular program for platting plots. They also have maps >for sale onto which the users apply their plats. > > >> Are the original deeds, or have the original deeds been placed on maps? >Guess that is a somewhat stupid question because I have seen some maps like >that, but are those just because a specific researcher did that or are such >maps in any State records? If one could do that, one could follow the >property, through time as state and county boundaries changed. > >That's a very pertinent question! Arphax Publishing Co. >(http:\\www.arphax.com) is doing some great work in platting counties >and publishing the results, although none of these are in the eastern >United States. I don't know of any North Carolina publications that are >dedicated to platting our counties. As you say, there surely are >researchers working on certain neighborhoods pertinent to their research >interests and perhaps List members can tell of us some web sites where >results have been posted. > >Deed Mapper has an index of people who are working throughout the United >States, and some people are working on Buncombe, Burke, Catawba, etc. >Here is that link "The *Land Record Research Directory* shows you *who >is doing LAND RECORD work* in various parts of the country. Perhaps you >can locate someone who has the same interest as you! Share ideas, share >deeds!" >http://www.directlinesoftware.com/research.htm > >Deed Mapper also has a Data Pool of plats and some for North Carolina >have been contributed. Here is that link: >http://www.directlinesoftware.com/pool.htm > >If List members find some more good resources, I hope they'll share the >links with us. > >Kathy Gunter Sullivan > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Lynn Wesson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SusanMarks01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4000/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Need any information on the children of Mary Ann Kiser and George Franklin Dameron from Lincoln or Gaston County, NC. Mary Anne died 30 Sept. 1855. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 11/5/2007 12:07:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, nclincol-request@rootsweb.com writes: <<<Jonas W. Derr's Lincoln County will dated 20 November 1881 entered probate on 2 December 1881. An abstract of his will was published by Grace Turner and Miles W. Philbeck in /Lincoln County, North Carolina, Will Abstracts 1779-1910/ (copyright 1986 and still available from the authors), abstract number 321. The abstract shows "Brother A. J. Derr" and "Deceased sister Sarah Boger's three children." Recorded Lincoln County Will Book 4: 243. The original will which carries his signature is extant at the North Carolina State Archives. The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of Mary A. Derr dated 16 July 1859 which entered probate in October 1862, recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 3: 45 with the original will available at the North Carolina State Archives. Mary A. Derr's will, according to the published abstract, names her sons Jonas W. Derr and Andrew J. Derr. My index to Lincoln County estates papers at the North Carolina State Archives includes "M. A. Derr, 1863." The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of Moses Able Derr dated 1 September 1848 which entered probate in December 1848 and names his mother Mary A. Derr and brothers Jonas W. Derr and Andrew J. Derr and sisters Sarah R. Boger and Jane K. Lenoir. The will is recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 2: 309. The original will is available at the North Carolina State Archives. My index to Lincoln County estates papers at the North Carolina State Archives includes "Moses Derr, 1849." The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of Rufus Milton Derr dated 26 February 1848 which entered probate in June 1848. It names mother Mary A. Derr, brothers Andrew J. Derr, Moses A. Derr, Jonas W. Derr, sisters Sarah R. Boger and Jane K. Lenoir. It is recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 2: 301. The original will is available at the North Carolina State Archives. My index to Lincoln County estates papers at the North Carolina State Archives includes "Rufus Derr, 1848." The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of A. J. Derr dated 4 September 1902 which entered probate on 4 October 1902 and is recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 5: 214. It is not recorded on my reference to original wills available at the North Carolina State Archives. Kathy Gunter Sullivan>>> Thanks so much, Kathy. When I was in Lincolnton last June, I actually copied the wills of Mary, Rufus and Moses. Unfortunately, I did not find Jonas's or A.J.'s, but I will certainly do so next time I am in the county. It was only on that trip that I figured out that Andrew Derr, Mary's husband and the father of the others, was the owner of the original Lorentz Darr/Derr parcel (my ancestor, John, sold his share to brother Andrew). Now that I understand that, I am trying to locate as much information as is available about Andrew's descendents. (As an aside - when Terry Waldrup led me through the woods to the old Andrew Derr cemetery, I solved the puzzle that had hung me up. Andrew's stone had a 15 year mistake blatantly stated on it - stated age of 66 at death meant he was born in 1776, not 1761, as stated on the stone. This fit with Lorentz's will, which called John (born 1771) the elder son.) This is all very exciting to me. I don't know that anyone besides Lorena Eaker has done any research on these Darr/Derrs - I have not come across anyone else since I found my great grandfather's account of his 1858 migration to Arkansas and I established the connections between my Arkansas ancestors and the Lincoln County bunch. But I am very pleased that Jason will be sending me the estate file on Jonas W. and I look forward to collecting other information about these Darr/Derrs. Jack Darr San Francisco ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Anna, Not a problem, just let me know. Thanks, Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna's Genealogy" <AnnasGeneology@nc.rr.com> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Lincoln North Carolina Voting Records for TommieW.ADAMS > Hi Jason, > > No I haven't been able to narrow down where he lived in Lincoln County. I > will have to get back with you when I know for sure where in Lincoln. > > Thanks for your help. > > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Harpe" <asso6377@bellsouth.net> > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Lincoln North Carolina Voting Records for Tommie > W.ADAMS > > > > Anna, > > > > Do you have any idea where Tommie Adams lived in Lincoln County? We have > > voting records for the years that match his time in Lincoln County, but > > the > > voting records are organized by voting districts. I will have my > > assistant > > look him up if you can narrow down where in Lincoln County he might have > > lived. > > > > Jason > > > > Jason L. Harpe > > Executive Director > > Lincoln County Historical Association > > Lincoln County Museum of History > > 403 East Main Street > > Lincolnton, NC 28092 > > (704) 748-9090 > > Fax: (704) 732-9057 > > www.lincolncountyhistory.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anna's Genealogy" <AnnasGeneology@nc.rr.com> > > To: <NCLINCOL@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:55 PM > > Subject: [NCLINCOL] Lincoln North Carolina Voting Records for Tommie W. > > ADAMS > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Can someone see if there is a record for Tommie W. ADAMS in the Lincoln > > North Carolina Voting Records? > >> > >> Some background on Tommie W. ADAMS: He was born in APR-1884 in Fork, > > Wayne, North Carolina, and he died in 1936 in Lincoln Co, NC. His parents > > were Gray P. ADAMS (b. SEP-1856 in Wilson, Wilson, North Carolina, d. BEF. > > 1913), and Della DANIEL (b. DEC-1860 in Wilson, Wilson, North Carolina, d. > > 15-OCT-1913 in Folk, Wayne Co, North Carolina). > >> > >> Here is a recap of some of the people and places that might be involved > >> in > > searching a Voting Records > >> > >> State: North Carolina > >> County: Lincoln > >> Person: ADAMS, Tommie > >> Alt Spellings: ADDAMS, ADAMES, and ADEMES > >> > >> Spouse(s): > >> Inlaws: > >> Parents: Gray P. ADAMS and Della DANIEL > >> Brothers: Alix J. ADAMS, Eddie J. ADAMS, Albert Sidney ADAMS, Zeno > > ADAMS, and Roosevelt ADAMS > >> > >> Thanks for any help you can give me on him. > >> > >> > >> > >> Anna Adams > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy and List, I had forgotten about that post of a number of years ago. Quite a long time ago I presented a program at the request of the deceased Mark Smith. The gist of the program dealt with locating the areas of each of the Companies in the 1790 census by geography. This research had begun with Curtis Mosteller. He shared some of that research with me and I have added to it. In addition I pursued locating Germans in these Companies. I used my knowledge of German surnames and the research of Lorena Eaker in German Speaking Peoples . . . for the basis of this research. I put it aside after that program. I still have that research filed away. If I may assist others, I will consult my previous research which I had forgotten if it had not been for Kathy Sullivan. Thanks Kathy, Robert Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: <sully1@carolina.rr.com> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [NCLINCOL] 1790 Census - Geography of districts > This question, which recently was on this mailing list, has arisen more > than once because we all want to narrow down the specific area where our > ancestors lived. I remembered that Robert C. Carpenter had responded to > such a question but it took awhile to locate the message due to > Rootsweb/Ancestry.com's creaky search engine. Robert C. Carpenter's > insights regarding some districts are quoted below. If other list > members have identified the district in which their ancestor lived, they > are encouraged to share that information. It could be very useful to > others because we sometimes have to depend on where neighbors lived in > order to target our own folks. Kathy Gunter Sullivan. > > 22 September 2001, Catawba-West Mailing List > Subject: Tax District 11 in 1790 > Author: Robert C. Carpenter > "Tax District 11 was in the eastern portion of present Gaston County. It > probably included the present towns of Mt. Holly and Belmont and > extended north as far as the Stanley Creek area. > > "For example, Burrell Wells and Richard Hanks lived near present-day > Belmont. The Alexanders and Abernathys and Jo. Dickson lived near Mt. > Holly and north of Mt. Holly. It is possible that this district extended > as fa north as the present town of Lucia which is in the extreme > northeastern corner of Gaston County near the Lincoln County line. > Thomas Rhyne and Sam Rankin lived just east of present Stanley. Rhyne's > home still stands there. > > "Zach Spencer lived near Spencer Mountain. I do not know which side of > the South Fork River he lived on. I originally suspected that all names > listed were east of the South Fork and therefore between the South Fork > and Catawba River. I am not so sure. Hugh Barry lived near present > Cramerton. Cramer Mountain was originally known as Barry/Berry Mountain. > > "I hope this has been helpful. Robert Carpenter." > > > 22 September 2001, Catawba-West Mailing List > Subject: Tax District 5 > Author: Robert C. Carpenter > "It is my opinion that District 5 is in present Catawba county. It > appears to be in the northern most portion of present Catawba County > with the Catawba River being its northern boundary. It most likely > included many persons who attended St. Johns Lutheran Church. > > "for example, the Sypes (Sipes) and Peter Plunk were on Lyles Creek. > Isaac Lowrance, the Sigmans, Simon Jonas, and the Fullbrights were all > from this area. Other Catawba County names include the Deals, Younts, > Bolicks, Ikers (Eher). Most of the names in this district are German > names. > > "I hope this is helpful. It is only my opinion. Robert Carpenter." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jason Harpe wrote: > > Jack, > > His name was actually Jonas W. Derr. I will be glad to send you a copy of > the file if you send me your physical address. We also have a piece of bar > iron that is marked "J.W. Derr/Cold Blast/NC". We retrieved this artifact > from the Madison Iron Furnace site that he operated. > > I can email you a photograph of it if you would like. > > Thanks, > > Jason > Jedarr@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, Jason. Of course it was Jonas, not Joshua. I was relying on my > memory, not my notes or files, when I wrote the comments about him. Always a > bad idea to rely only on my memory! > > I would love a copy of the file if you don't mind sending it. I can study > it while recovering from hip surgery, which takes place in a week or so. An > e'mailed photo of the artifact would also be great! > > Physical address is: Jack Darr, 1245 Camino Corto, Rohnert Park, CA > 94928-3593. > > Thanks so much!! > > Jack Jonas W. Derr's Lincoln County will dated 20 November 1881 entered probate on 2 December 1881. An abstract of his will was published by Grace Turner and Miles W. Philbeck in /Lincoln County, North Carolina, Will Abstracts 1779-1910/ (copyright 1986 and still available from the authors), abstract number 321. The abstract shows "Brother A. J. Derr" and "Deceased sister Sarah Boger's three children." Recorded Lincoln County Will Book 4: 243. The original will which carries his signature is extant at the North Carolina State Archives. The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of Mary A. Derr dated 16 July 1859 which entered probate in October 1862, recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 3: 45 with the original will available at the North Carolina State Archives. Mary A. Derr's will, according to the published abstract, names her sons Jonas W. Derr and Andrew J. Derr. My index to Lincoln County estates papers at the North Carolina State Archives includes "M. A. Derr, 1863." The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of Moses Able Derr dated 1 September 1848 which entered probate in December 1848 and names his mother Mary A. Derr and brothers Jonas W. Derr and Andrew J. Derr and sisters Sarah R. Boger and Jane K. Lenoir. The will is recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 2: 309. The original will is available at the North Carolina State Archives. My index to Lincoln County estates papers at the North Carolina State Archives includes "Moses Derr, 1849." The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of Rufus Milton Derr dated 26 February 1848 which entered probate in June 1848. It names mother Mary A. Derr, brothers Andrew J. Derr, Moses A. Derr, Jonas W. Derr, sisters Sarah R. Boger and Jane K. Lenoir. It is recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 2: 301. The original will is available at the North Carolina State Archives. My index to Lincoln County estates papers at the North Carolina State Archives includes "Rufus Derr, 1848." The same volume of abstracts of Lincoln County wills includes that of A. J. Derr dated 4 September 1902 which entered probate on 4 October 1902 and is recorded in Lincoln County Will Book 5: 214. It is not recorded on my reference to original wills available at the North Carolina State Archives. Kathy Gunter Sullivan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: derbymw Surnames: oyler fifer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/1347.1404.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great grandmother was Mary Jane Oyler b. 18 oct 1858 in Cass coutny IN. Her father was Joseph L Oyler b. 12 MAR 1826 Jessamine County, Kentucky and son of Jacob Oyler b. 17 May 1791 North Carolina. So he's my GGG Grandfather. My father also has old family pictures too. Some are oylers. I have just one of the oyler family at there house in bunker hill but the people weren't labeled so not sure which oylers but it's an early picture. How far down the different branches do you have? I would like to add to the Oyler line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This question, which recently was on this mailing list, has arisen more than once because we all want to narrow down the specific area where our ancestors lived. I remembered that Robert C. Carpenter had responded to such a question but it took awhile to locate the message due to Rootsweb/Ancestry.com's creaky search engine. Robert C. Carpenter's insights regarding some districts are quoted below. If other list members have identified the district in which their ancestor lived, they are encouraged to share that information. It could be very useful to others because we sometimes have to depend on where neighbors lived in order to target our own folks. Kathy Gunter Sullivan. 22 September 2001, Catawba-West Mailing List Subject: Tax District 11 in 1790 Author: Robert C. Carpenter "Tax District 11 was in the eastern portion of present Gaston County. It probably included the present towns of Mt. Holly and Belmont and extended north as far as the Stanley Creek area. "For example, Burrell Wells and Richard Hanks lived near present-day Belmont. The Alexanders and Abernathys and Jo. Dickson lived near Mt. Holly and north of Mt. Holly. It is possible that this district extended as fa north as the present town of Lucia which is in the extreme northeastern corner of Gaston County near the Lincoln County line. Thomas Rhyne and Sam Rankin lived just east of present Stanley. Rhyne's home still stands there. "Zach Spencer lived near Spencer Mountain. I do not know which side of the South Fork River he lived on. I originally suspected that all names listed were east of the South Fork and therefore between the South Fork and Catawba River. I am not so sure. Hugh Barry lived near present Cramerton. Cramer Mountain was originally known as Barry/Berry Mountain. "I hope this has been helpful. Robert Carpenter." 22 September 2001, Catawba-West Mailing List Subject: Tax District 5 Author: Robert C. Carpenter "It is my opinion that District 5 is in present Catawba county. It appears to be in the northern most portion of present Catawba County with the Catawba River being its northern boundary. It most likely included many persons who attended St. Johns Lutheran Church. "for example, the Sypes (Sipes) and Peter Plunk were on Lyles Creek. Isaac Lowrance, the Sigmans, Simon Jonas, and the Fullbrights were all from this area. Other Catawba County names include the Deals, Younts, Bolicks, Ikers (Eher). Most of the names in this district are German names. "I hope this is helpful. It is only my opinion. Robert Carpenter."

In a message dated 11/4/2007 4:52:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, nclincol-request@rootsweb.com writes: Jack, His name was actually Jonas W. Derr. I will be glad to send you a copy of the file if you send me your physical address. We also have a piece of bar iron that is marked "J.W. Derr/Cold Blast/NC". We retrieved this artifact from the Madison Iron Furnace site that he operated. I can email you a photograph of it if you would like. Thanks, Jason Thanks, Jason. Of course it was Jonas, not Joshua. I was relying on my memory, not my notes or files, when I wrote the comments about him. Always a bad idea to rely only on my memory! I would love a copy of the file if you don't mind sending it. I can study it while recovering from hip surgery, which takes place in a week or so. An e'mailed photo of the artifact would also be great! Physical address is: Jack Darr, 1245 Camino Corto, Rohnert Park, CA 94928-3593. Thanks so much!! Jack ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Jason, No I haven't been able to narrow down where he lived in Lincoln County. I will have to get back with you when I know for sure where in Lincoln. Thanks for your help. Anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Harpe" <asso6377@bellsouth.net> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Lincoln North Carolina Voting Records for Tommie W.ADAMS > Anna, > > Do you have any idea where Tommie Adams lived in Lincoln County? We have > voting records for the years that match his time in Lincoln County, but > the > voting records are organized by voting districts. I will have my > assistant > look him up if you can narrow down where in Lincoln County he might have > lived. > > Jason > > Jason L. Harpe > Executive Director > Lincoln County Historical Association > Lincoln County Museum of History > 403 East Main Street > Lincolnton, NC 28092 > (704) 748-9090 > Fax: (704) 732-9057 > www.lincolncountyhistory.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anna's Genealogy" <AnnasGeneology@nc.rr.com> > To: <NCLINCOL@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:55 PM > Subject: [NCLINCOL] Lincoln North Carolina Voting Records for Tommie W. > ADAMS > > >> Hi, >> >> Can someone see if there is a record for Tommie W. ADAMS in the Lincoln > North Carolina Voting Records? >> >> Some background on Tommie W. ADAMS: He was born in APR-1884 in Fork, > Wayne, North Carolina, and he died in 1936 in Lincoln Co, NC. His parents > were Gray P. ADAMS (b. SEP-1856 in Wilson, Wilson, North Carolina, d. BEF. > 1913), and Della DANIEL (b. DEC-1860 in Wilson, Wilson, North Carolina, d. > 15-OCT-1913 in Folk, Wayne Co, North Carolina). >> >> Here is a recap of some of the people and places that might be involved >> in > searching a Voting Records >> >> State: North Carolina >> County: Lincoln >> Person: ADAMS, Tommie >> Alt Spellings: ADDAMS, ADAMES, and ADEMES >> >> Spouse(s): >> Inlaws: >> Parents: Gray P. ADAMS and Della DANIEL >> Brothers: Alix J. ADAMS, Eddie J. ADAMS, Albert Sidney ADAMS, Zeno > ADAMS, and Roosevelt ADAMS >> >> Thanks for any help you can give me on him. >> >> >> >> Anna Adams >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: byrona19 Surnames: Oyler, Fiffer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/1347.1404.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Matthew, at this time no one I know of, knows for sure who Jacob's parents are. Some folks incorrectly link him to Valentine Oyler, but there is no linkage. However there are lots of Jacob Oylers, but the one I am talking about is the one that married Elizabeth Fifer. What is your connection to this couple? My maternal Grandmother was an Oyler, from this line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Jack, His name was actually Jonas W. Derr. I will be glad to send you a copy of the file if you send me your physical address. We also have a piece of bar iron that is marked "J.W. Derr/Cold Blast/NC". We retrieved this artifact from the Madison Iron Furnace site that he operated. I can email you a photograph of it if you would like. Thanks, Jason Jason L. Harpe Executive Director Lincoln County Historical Association Lincoln County Museum of History 403 East Main Street Lincolnton, NC 28092 (704) 748-9090 Fax: (704) 732-9057 www.lincolncountyhistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jedarr@aol.com> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] NCLINCOL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 153 > > In a message dated 11/2/2007 12:04:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > nclincol-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > In regards to J.W. Derr, we have a copy of his estate file from the N.C. > State Archives. The list of property sold of J.W. Derr is 36 pages long. > The executors of J.W. Derr's estate were James Mullen and A.J. Derr. Pages > 1-31 address the items from the estate that they sold at the furnace > property, and 32-26 address the items sold at Catawba Springs. > > Jason > > Jason L. Harpe > Executive Director > Lincoln County Historical Association > Lincoln County Museum of History > 403 East Main Street > Lincolnton, NC 28092 > (704) 748-9090 > Fax: (704) 732-9057 > www.lincolncountyhistory.com > > > > Thanks, Jason. I guess A.J. Derr is Joshua's younger brother - the only > survivor of the Andrew Derr line that I am aware of. I hope I can figure out > who A.J.'s descendants are, if he has any, and somehow connect with them to > share information. I will also have to investigate who James Mullen is. I > suppose he could be a brother-in-law of Joshua and A.J. > > Do you think Johsua W. had a will or was it intestate succession? > > When I was researching in Lincoln County last June, I didn't know about > Joshua's connection to my ancestors so I did not try to learn any more about him > and what property he owned. From what I learned on that trip, it appears > that either he or A. J. may have occupied the property of the original Darr/Derr > immigrant, Lorentz, (who purchased Peter Johnston's patent on 7 Nov. 1776). > Next time I am in Lincoln County, I will be curious to see the file on > J.W.'s estate to see what I can learn. > > Jack Darr > San Francisco > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anna, Do you have any idea where Tommie Adams lived in Lincoln County? We have voting records for the years that match his time in Lincoln County, but the voting records are organized by voting districts. I will have my assistant look him up if you can narrow down where in Lincoln County he might have lived. Jason Jason L. Harpe Executive Director Lincoln County Historical Association Lincoln County Museum of History 403 East Main Street Lincolnton, NC 28092 (704) 748-9090 Fax: (704) 732-9057 www.lincolncountyhistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna's Genealogy" <AnnasGeneology@nc.rr.com> To: <NCLINCOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: [NCLINCOL] Lincoln North Carolina Voting Records for Tommie W. ADAMS > Hi, > > Can someone see if there is a record for Tommie W. ADAMS in the Lincoln North Carolina Voting Records? > > Some background on Tommie W. ADAMS: He was born in APR-1884 in Fork, Wayne, North Carolina, and he died in 1936 in Lincoln Co, NC. His parents were Gray P. ADAMS (b. SEP-1856 in Wilson, Wilson, North Carolina, d. BEF. 1913), and Della DANIEL (b. DEC-1860 in Wilson, Wilson, North Carolina, d. 15-OCT-1913 in Folk, Wayne Co, North Carolina). > > Here is a recap of some of the people and places that might be involved in searching a Voting Records > > State: North Carolina > County: Lincoln > Person: ADAMS, Tommie > Alt Spellings: ADDAMS, ADAMES, and ADEMES > > Spouse(s): > Inlaws: > Parents: Gray P. ADAMS and Della DANIEL > Brothers: Alix J. ADAMS, Eddie J. ADAMS, Albert Sidney ADAMS, Zeno ADAMS, and Roosevelt ADAMS > > Thanks for any help you can give me on him. > > > > Anna Adams > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message