The Lincoln County Historic Properties Commission has organized a workday at the Ramsour's Mill battlesite for Saturday, December 8, 2008 from 10:00 to 2:30 pm. We will be clearing away underbrush from the abutment of the old bridge at Ramsour's Mill. Bring any tools you may have for cutting bushes, shrubs, and underbrush. We should have very nice weather and a great time. We hope that you will take a few hours out of your weekend and help us at this historically significant site in Lincolnton. The Ramsour's Mill battlesite is located off North Aspen Street in Lincolnton near Lincolnton High School. Please contact Jason L. Harpe at (704) 748-9090 or <mailto:lcmh@bellsouth.net>lcmh@bellsouth.net with any questions. Thanks, Jason Jason L. Harpe Executive Director Lincoln County Historical Association Lincoln County Museum of History 403 East Main Street Lincolnton, NC 28092 (704) 748-9090 Fax: (704) 732-9057 <http://www.lincolncountyhistory.com>www.lincolncountyhistory.com

My great grandfather, Jeremiah Alexander Heatherly, ?was in the Confederate Army but deserted and ran over to the Union Army. I have his orignal discharge, and a history of him and a brother who also fought for the Union.? Merrill Wilson -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: NCLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 2:22 pm Subject: [NCLINCOL] Civil War Unionists of Alabama This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kycady Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4002/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We are engaged in an on-going genealogical and historical research project focused on the Civil War Unionists of Alabama. Two volumes have been published, a third is soon to be released, and nine more volumes are planned. Details of the project scope are at http://www.civilwarunionistsofalabama.com/. Each volume of our series includes a mix of general history of southern population migration, Native American involvement, local Alabama folklore, and Civil War activity in Alabama but also in the other southern states if there is an Alabama connection. We hope that this portion of our series will be of interest to anyone with a Civil War history or Southern connection. To keep the massi! ve amount of available data manageable, the genealogy portion is more closely confined to Unionists from Alabama who served in the Union Armies either in "named" Alabama regiments or in regiments mustered in other states, as many did. If you have genealogical data, local history, photographs, etc, related to the subject, we would like to hear from you at jsmbooks@comcast.net or reply to this message board. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CindyMcC Surnames: Harmon Classification: will Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4003/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Will of Peter Harmon In the name of God Amen, whereas I Peter Harmon of the County of Lincoln in the state of North Carolina being weak in body tough in perfect mind and memory thanks be to God for it. Do at this day the seventh of October in the year of our Lord and Saviour one thougsand seven hundred and ninety four make and publish this my Last will and Testament In manner following that is to say First of all, I give and recummend my soul into the hands, Cear (care), and keeping of Almighty God who gave it and my body to the Earth in Decent Christian burial. Secondly, I give and bequeath all my worldly affairs as following to wit: First give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Lydia the new house where I live with the orchard and barn field including the improvments and all lands as low as to the flag in the same side of the branch where the house stands with my young bay mare without the colt also my black horse. I also leave my other bay mare and money to be disposed of for an young negro woman at the discretion of my executors and the said negro to be kept in the possession of my wife during her life and at her decease to return to my beloved son Andrew. I also leave to my wife all my household furniture during her life. I also give unto my beloved son John Harmon the thirty pounds which I paid in the price of his land. I also give unto my beloved son Henry my Red Sorrel horse. I also give to my son Richard all my carpenter tools. I also give unto my son Peter English sorrel horse. I also give to my son Jacob his smith's tools and his stalion which he now has. I also give unto my son Andrew my young bay filley and the young bay mars colt. I also leave my waggon and my still for the use of my wife and my son Andrew. I also give to my son Andrew all my lands. I also ? ? ? unto my daughter Elizabeth Dickson ten pounds worth in such trade as ? ? within one year after she is of age. I also give unto my daughter ? my old bay mars colt and a cow and calf. I also give to my step son Solomon Beeson a cow and calf. I also give unto my son-in-law William Dyer the cow and calf which he now has and two guineas. I also allow Joseph Beason eight silver dollars. I also give unto my step daughter Mary Beason my loam and tackling with her bed and furniture and a cow and calf. I also leave the remainder of my cattle and other stock to my wife for the use of her and the family to support on. I also appoint, ordain, constitute and confirm Charles McLain and John Wilson Esqr Executors of this my last will and testament to act and do with this my Estate as they think most lawfull and expedient for the benefit of these my heirs. In witness whereof I have hereunto fixed my hand and seal this day and date above written. Peter Harmon In presents of Wooddath Samuel C. Collis Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Philip Mooney (Moony) is found in the 1870 Lincoln County census in the Ironton Township with his wife ?ancy (I can't read the first letter) sons, James and Wade ages 5 and 11/12 months. At the end of the family list is Mary Mooney age 10. Philip is age 28 and his wife 25. It is possible that they are Mary's parents but why would she be listed at the end of the children rather than the beginning as is common? She is not listed as being "at school" or as doing anything else, i. e. domestic servant, sister of one of the adults, boarder, etc. as I've seen on other people's records. Who is this Philip Mooney (and various spellings of the name Mauney)? Who is this Mary Mooney? My great grandmother was Mary Jane Mauney and this is an approximately age depending on what dates are used (tombstone or marriage license.) Where in Lincoln County is the Ironton Township? Thanks to all. Cynthia **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kycady Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4002/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We are engaged in an on-going genealogical and historical research project focused on the Civil War Unionists of Alabama. Two volumes have been published, a third is soon to be released, and nine more volumes are planned. Details of the project scope are at http://www.civilwarunionistsofalabama.com/. Each volume of our series includes a mix of general history of southern population migration, Native American involvement, local Alabama folklore, and Civil War activity in Alabama but also in the other southern states if there is an Alabama connection. We hope that this portion of our series will be of interest to anyone with a Civil War history or Southern connection. To keep the massive amount of available data manageable, the genealogy portion is more closely confined to Unionists from Alabama who served in the Union Armies either in "named" Alabama regiments or in regiments mustered in other states, as many did. If you have genealogical data, local history, photographs, etc, related to the subject, we would like to hear from you at jsmbooks@comcast.net or reply to this message board. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Terri_Rucker Surnames: Yonts Younts Younce Yonce Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4001/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on William Yonts. He married Margaret Bentley in Lincoln Co in 1794. The spelling of his name varies-Younts Yonce Younce. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: derickh1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/283.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ME TOO! Name: James KEEVER Father: Thomas KEEVER (22 Jan 1785 - 1844) Mother: Nancy REEL (1786 - abt 1880) Birth 18 Feb 1811, Lincoln County, North Carolina Occupation blacksmith Death 1907 (age 96), Cartersville, Bartow, Georgia Marriages/Children 1. Mary Jane (Polly) BRADSHAW Marriage 25 Mar 1837 (age 26), Lincoln County, North Carolina Children John Wesley KEEVER (29 Aug 1838 - 16 Aug 1881) Thomas J. KEEVER (abt 1840 - 26 May 1862) Daniel Frank KEEVER (abt 1843 - 29 Jun 1862) Jonas Ausburne KEEVER (1 Dec 1845 - 5 Oct 1927) --Derick Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brucekeever Surnames: Bradshaw Keever Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/283.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Eight years later... but I have information about her parents if you're still looking. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: llookin Surnames: Scarborough, Robinson, & others... Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/502.943.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Roy, Looks like I need to research John ROBINSON, that was married to Holly Hollinsbury. They were in Lincoln Co. in the early 1800's. I do not know anything about them at this time. I was told that they had these children: William, John, Ann, Mary, Lucretia, Frances, Martha (my ancestor), & Elizabeth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, My name is Stan Arney, and I'm currently researching a particular branch of the Arney surname. I'm looking for any currently active researchers who are researching Christian Arney, Sr. Who was born in 1750, in York County, Pennsylvania. This particular Christian Arney, Sr. would have been born to a Jacob Arney. This particular Christian Arney, Sr. would have also moved with his father, in 1767, to North Carolina. He would be the same Christian Arney, Sr. who fought in the American Revolution, and the same Christian Arney, Sr. who died in Lincoln County, NC in 1834. The reason I'm trying to find any active researcher(s) researching this particular person, is that perhaps they would have valuable information on Christian Arney, Sr. parents. I'm trying to solve the mystery of Christian Arney, Sr.'s father, Jacob Arney. Meaning, who were Jacob Arney's parents? Who were Jacob Arney's siblings? When and where was Jacob Arney born? Was Jacob Arney born in the USA? Were Jacob Arney's parents born in the USA? My direct line of these Arney's is Christian's brother, Peter, born in 1772, in Tryon (now Lincoln) County, NC. I'm hoping that Christian Arney, Sr. kept better family records, and that it will lead me to more information on his father, Jacob Arney. If you have have any information that would help fill in any, if not all, of these blanks, on Jacob Arney, I would like to hear from you. Sincerely, Stan Arney Wichita, KS --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.

In which militia district was Seagle's Store ... or is that the name of the militia district?? Thanks. Alta -----Original Message----- From: Robert Carpenter <rcarpenter2@charter.net> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com; CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 8:15 pm Subject: [NCLINCOL] Militia districts Dear List, My good friend, Kathy Sullivan, located another post I made a number of years ago concerning militia lists and their geographic locations. She suggested that I post it on these two lists for others who may be interested in the research. If I may answer questions or expand upon this research, just let me know. I posted the following on the Catawba West list in 1999: My research has indicated that militia companies did have a distinct geographical area. Mr. Curtis Mosteller (now deceased) and I did much research on these companies quite a number of years ago. Yet, I have never seen a militia map or any description of these militia companies in any of my research at the State Archives in Raleigh. I did some analysis of the militia companies some years ago in three respects: to analyze slave populations, to discern the German populations of the districts, and to locate the militia companies which included present Catawba County. I presented a brief program to the Catawba County Genealogical Society about this issue. While I cannot verify by independent means my suppositions about location of these companies, I believe they are close to being correct. >From the 1790 Lincoln Co. census: 1st Companyeastern Catawba County 2nd Companynorth central Lincoln and south central Catawba; in the Maiden area 3rd Companynorth central Catawba 4th companywestern Catawba 5th Companynorthern Catawba Of the above I suggested that 62% of the names were of German origin 10th Companyeastern Lincoln and eastern Catawba (this company was predominantly of English-speaking origin) I hope this information may be helpful to Mr Bradshaw and to anyone else. I remind you that my sources for this list is my general knowledge of names and where they originated. So it is my opinion based on my years of research. You may find errors and may have other opinions based upon your own research. Robert Carpenter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Jack, Sorry that information was not helpful. Sometimes one never knows where one might maka a major discovery. I have never researched that family and know nothing about them. I think you are fairly correct in your assumptions about the family. I did consult Lorena Eaker's German Speaking Peoples and she gives the same basic information you did. Good luck, Robert Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jedarr@aol.com> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] NCLINCOL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 161 > > In a message dated 11/10/2007 12:06:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > nclincol-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > I found this for Derr researchers. I have no idea whether there is a > connection. > > Robert Carpenter > > > > Thanks, Robert. If you learn about any other Derr/Darr researchers who > are > focused on Lincoln/Gaston Derr/Darr's, do please let me know. I am not > aware > of any. > > I looked at Wampler's book early on in my research and found nothing about > the Lincoln County branch of the family. I am now pretty confident that > virtually all the Lincoln/Gaston Derr/Darrs come from immigrant Lorentz > Darr, who > came from Germany to Lehigh County PA in 1764, stayed until about the > middle > of the 1770s (had first son - John - in Lehigh County in 1771) and bought > the > family's first property in Lincoln County in 1776. His sons John (who > used > the spelling Darr) and Andrew (who used the spelling Derr) each had > several > sons (daughters, too), who seem to be the ancestors of the Darr/Derrs in > the > area. > > There was also an Adam Derr, who does not appear to be closely related to > these Darr/Derrs, but census records and property grantee records suggest > that > he may not have had any male descendents in the area. > > Jack Darr > San Francisco > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear List, My good friend, Kathy Sullivan, located another post I made a number of years ago concerning militia lists and their geographic locations. She suggested that I post it on these two lists for others who may be interested in the research. If I may answer questions or expand upon this research, just let me know. I posted the following on the Catawba West list in 1999: My research has indicated that militia companies did have a distinct geographical area. Mr. Curtis Mosteller (now deceased) and I did much research on these companies quite a number of years ago. Yet, I have never seen a militia map or any description of these militia companies in any of my research at the State Archives in Raleigh. I did some analysis of the militia companies some years ago in three respects: to analyze slave populations, to discern the German populations of the districts, and to locate the militia companies which included present Catawba County. I presented a brief program to the Catawba County Genealogical Society about this issue. While I cannot verify by independent means my suppositions about location of these companies, I believe they are close to being correct. >From the 1790 Lincoln Co. census: 1st Companyeastern Catawba County 2nd Companynorth central Lincoln and south central Catawba; in the Maiden area 3rd Companynorth central Catawba 4th companywestern Catawba 5th Companynorthern Catawba Of the above I suggested that 62% of the names were of German origin 10th Companyeastern Lincoln and eastern Catawba (this company was predominantly of English-speaking origin) I hope this information may be helpful to Mr Bradshaw and to anyone else. I remind you that my sources for this list is my general knowledge of names and where they originated. So it is my opinion based on my years of research. You may find errors and may have other opinions based upon your own research. Robert Carpenter

Good morning, Dave!? Yes, this is ordinarily a good way to learn the Christian name of the wife; however, sometimes I've seen it as using the husband's name, like "Mrs. John Smith", which tells us nothing!? Alta -----Original Message----- From: Dave Kaylor <dwftree@yahoo.com> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 9:49 am Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Question concerning old land deal and certain procedures involved Hi Alta, It's a shame there aren't more of these types of records available because it would be a great way, in some cases, to determine the name of the wife. That information can sometimes be very difficult to find with these early pioneers. --- "Alta M. Durden" <altamdurden@aol.com> wrote: > Even today, a few of these somewhat?archaic laws are > still in effect.? For instance, in South Carolina > where I live, regarding?real estate transactions, it > is necessary for married women to be "examined" > privately as to their intentions and to sign what is > called a "Renunciation of Dower". > Alta Mitchem Durden ? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sully1@carolina.rr.com > To: nclincol@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:23 pm > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Question concerning old land > deal and certain procedures involved > > > > Dave Kaylor wrote: > > I recently ran across a document involving one of > my ancestors, Mary Herman, > that raised some interesting questions: > > > > In 1813, Mary Herman and her husband, William > Herman Jr., had sold some land > to her brother George Kaylor. This was land Mary had > inherited from her father, > Henry Kaylor. For whatever reason, they waited 13 > years to complete the process. > > They sold the land when they wanted to do so which > happened to be > thirteen years. > > > Then in April Court of 1826, Daniel Hoke, one of > the justices of Lincoln > County, was appointed by the court to personally > examine Mary Herman, separate > and apart from her husband, to ascertain if she > voluntarily approved of the > sale. Daniel Hoke determined that she did approve of > it and the deed of sale was > duly registered in July of 1826. My question is > this: Was it normal practice to > examine the wife separately in such cases, at least > if it involved land she had > inherited, or was there likely some unknown special > circumstances involved. I'm > not familiar with the laws and customs of that time > regarding such things, but I > just found it curious. > > > > Not a curious event at all. It was the law for > everyone not just for > William and Mary Herman. How the land was acquired > was not relevant > under the law because in 1826, a married woman could > not own real estate > in her own name. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check > out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Even today, a few of these somewhat?archaic laws are still in effect.? For instance, in South Carolina where I live, regarding?real estate transactions, it is necessary for married women to be "examined" privately as to their intentions and to sign what is called a "Renunciation of Dower". Alta Mitchem Durden ? -----Original Message----- From: sully1@carolina.rr.com To: nclincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:23 pm Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Question concerning old land deal and certain procedures involved Dave Kaylor wrote: > I recently ran across a document involving one of my ancestors, Mary Herman, that raised some interesting questions: > > In 1813, Mary Herman and her husband, William Herman Jr., had sold some land to her brother George Kaylor. This was land Mary had inherited from her father, Henry Kaylor. For whatever reason, they waited 13 years to complete the process. They sold the land when they wanted to do so which happened to be thirteen years. > Then in April Court of 1826, Daniel Hoke, one of the justices of Lincoln County, was appointed by the court to personally examine Mary Herman, separate and apart from her husband, to ascertain if she voluntarily approved of the sale. Daniel Hoke determined that she did approve of it and the deed of sale was duly registered in July of 1826. My question is this: Was it normal practice to examine the wife separately in such cases, at least if it involved land she had inherited, or was there likely some unknown special circumstances involved. I'm not familiar with the laws and customs of that time regarding such things, but I just found it curious. > Not a curious event at all. It was the law for everyone not just for William and Mary Herman. How the land was acquired was not relevant under the law because in 1826, a married woman could not own real estate in her own name. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Hi Alta, It's a shame there aren't more of these types of records available because it would be a great way, in some cases, to determine the name of the wife. That information can sometimes be very difficult to find with these early pioneers. --- "Alta M. Durden" <altamdurden@aol.com> wrote: > Even today, a few of these somewhat?archaic laws are > still in effect.? For instance, in South Carolina > where I live, regarding?real estate transactions, it > is necessary for married women to be "examined" > privately as to their intentions and to sign what is > called a "Renunciation of Dower". > Alta Mitchem Durden ? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sully1@carolina.rr.com > To: nclincol@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:23 pm > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Question concerning old land > deal and certain procedures involved > > > > Dave Kaylor wrote: > > I recently ran across a document involving one of > my ancestors, Mary Herman, > that raised some interesting questions: > > > > In 1813, Mary Herman and her husband, William > Herman Jr., had sold some land > to her brother George Kaylor. This was land Mary had > inherited from her father, > Henry Kaylor. For whatever reason, they waited 13 > years to complete the process. > > They sold the land when they wanted to do so which > happened to be > thirteen years. > > > Then in April Court of 1826, Daniel Hoke, one of > the justices of Lincoln > County, was appointed by the court to personally > examine Mary Herman, separate > and apart from her husband, to ascertain if she > voluntarily approved of the > sale. Daniel Hoke determined that she did approve of > it and the deed of sale was > duly registered in July of 1826. My question is > this: Was it normal practice to > examine the wife separately in such cases, at least > if it involved land she had > inherited, or was there likely some unknown special > circumstances involved. I'm > not familiar with the laws and customs of that time > regarding such things, but I > just found it curious. > > > > Not a curious event at all. It was the law for > everyone not just for > William and Mary Herman. How the land was acquired > was not relevant > under the law because in 1826, a married woman could > not own real estate > in her own name. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check > out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dave Kaylor wrote: > I recently ran across a document involving one of my ancestors, Mary Herman, that raised some interesting questions: > > In 1813, Mary Herman and her husband, William Herman Jr., had sold some land to her brother George Kaylor. This was land Mary had inherited from her father, Henry Kaylor. For whatever reason, they waited 13 years to complete the process. They sold the land when they wanted to do so which happened to be thirteen years. > Then in April Court of 1826, Daniel Hoke, one of the justices of Lincoln County, was appointed by the court to personally examine Mary Herman, separate and apart from her husband, to ascertain if she voluntarily approved of the sale. Daniel Hoke determined that she did approve of it and the deed of sale was duly registered in July of 1826. My question is this: Was it normal practice to examine the wife separately in such cases, at least if it involved land she had inherited, or was there likely some unknown special circumstances involved. I'm not familiar with the laws and customs of that time regarding such things, but I just found it curious. > Not a curious event at all. It was the law for everyone not just for William and Mary Herman. How the land was acquired was not relevant under the law because in 1826, a married woman could not own real estate in her own name.

Okay, that does make sense. Thanks for your input. I guess what made me wonder is I don't remember seeing that kind of thing mentioned with other land transactions. --- sully1@carolina.rr.com wrote: > Dave Kaylor wrote: > > I recently ran across a document involving one of > my ancestors, Mary Herman, that raised some > interesting questions: > > > > In 1813, Mary Herman and her husband, William > Herman Jr., had sold some land to her brother George > Kaylor. This was land Mary had inherited from her > father, Henry Kaylor. For whatever reason, they > waited 13 years to complete the process. > > They sold the land when they wanted to do so which > happened to be > thirteen years. > > > Then in April Court of 1826, Daniel Hoke, one of > the justices of Lincoln County, was appointed by the > court to personally examine Mary Herman, separate > and apart from her husband, to ascertain if she > voluntarily approved of the sale. Daniel Hoke > determined that she did approve of it and the deed > of sale was duly registered in July of 1826. My > question is this: Was it normal practice to examine > the wife separately in such cases, at least if it > involved land she had inherited, or was there likely > some unknown special circumstances involved. I'm not > familiar with the laws and customs of that time > regarding such things, but I just found it curious. > > > > Not a curious event at all. It was the law for > everyone not just for > William and Mary Herman. How the land was acquired > was not relevant > under the law because in 1826, a married woman could > not own real estate > in her own name. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I recently ran across a document involving one of my ancestors, Mary Herman, that raised some interesting questions: In 1813, Mary Herman and her husband, William Herman Jr., had sold some land to her brother George Kaylor. This was land Mary had inherited from her father, Henry Kaylor. For whatever reason, they waited 13 years to complete the process. Then in April Court of 1826, Daniel Hoke, one of the justices of Lincoln County, was appointed by the court to personally examine Mary Herman, separate and apart from her husband, to ascertain if she voluntarily approved of the sale. Daniel Hoke determined that she did approve of it and the deed of sale was duly registered in July of 1826. My question is this: Was it normal practice to examine the wife separately in such cases, at least if it involved land she had inherited, or was there likely some unknown special circumstances involved. I'm not familiar with the laws and customs of that time regarding such things, but I just found it curious. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In a message dated 11/10/2007 12:06:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, nclincol-request@rootsweb.com writes: I found this for Derr researchers. I have no idea whether there is a connection. Robert Carpenter Thanks, Robert. If you learn about any other Derr/Darr researchers who are focused on Lincoln/Gaston Derr/Darr's, do please let me know. I am not aware of any. I looked at Wampler's book early on in my research and found nothing about the Lincoln County branch of the family. I am now pretty confident that virtually all the Lincoln/Gaston Derr/Darrs come from immigrant Lorentz Darr, who came from Germany to Lehigh County PA in 1764, stayed until about the middle of the 1770s (had first son - John - in Lehigh County in 1771) and bought the family's first property in Lincoln County in 1776. His sons John (who used the spelling Darr) and Andrew (who used the spelling Derr) each had several sons (daughters, too), who seem to be the ancestors of the Darr/Derrs in the area. There was also an Adam Derr, who does not appear to be closely related to these Darr/Derrs, but census records and property grantee records suggest that he may not have had any male descendents in the area. Jack Darr San Francisco ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com