Lynne, My mother's middle name is her maiden name, COLLINS. Her signature was Kathleen C. MITCHELL or Kathleen Collins MITCHELL. The same goes for Mother's mother and grandmother. All official docs were signed by them using the *maiden* name as the middle initial or fully spelled out as the middle name. My middle name is my maiden name, MITCHELL. We are Southern and I've never thought of it any other way until reading your post. But, now that you mention it, I suppose my dear friends from other parts of the country now after marriage commonly use their second given name as the middle name. That said, in researching my family in the north, I have seen women replace their middle name with their maiden name there too. My gg-grandmother from Maine is listed on her gravestone as Ann Elizabeth HALL - wife of Benjamin Edward FLINT. Most Southern women I know still follow the tradition after marriage and use their maiden name as their legal middle name. Family ties here were/are legally important. Husbands in SC could not sell land without wives' forfeiting DOWER'S RIGHTS (her family rights) on the contract/deed. Many very old graves list the name as Mary COLLINS (maiden), *Consort* of John T. WILSON. They were, of course, husband and wife. More recent graves might list Mary COLLINS and John WILSON or: WILSON Mary Collins - John T. Take care, Judy

This is very interesting and is reference to a North Carolina law that seems to be rare, or at least not very well known.? It might prove even more interesting ... and very helpful, too ... if an effort were made to obtain the court minutes with regard to change of the name of Jonas Beneigh to Jonas Anthony in 1801 where the Father was Benjamin Anthony of Lincoln County.? That way, we might be able to learn the attendant circumstances under which this name change came about, and perhaps learn if the same or similar circumstances were present in the particular instances in which we, as researchers in other families,?might be able to apply.? Most Lincoln County researchers are familiar with the name change of Zimmerman to Carpenter, for instance; however, that was a wide-spread or wholesale changing of surname and is not the same, in principle, as legally changing a single individual's surname in an isolated incidence. We know, from January 1814 Lincoln County Court Minutes, that the name of Salley Tucker's illegitimate daughter was "Polley Tucker", who was then?"about five years & six months old" when she was bound to "Benjn. Hull until she arrive to lawful age"; however, because ... intermittently, both?before and after?her death in Bond County, Illinois in 1887??... "Polley Tucker" used, interchangeably and was known by, these two pre-marital surnames:?Scott and Mitchum/Mitchem),?in addition to her birth?surname of Tucker ...there probably does not exist a clear-cut path to understanding what actually happened along the way in the case of "Polley"/Sarah/Sally Tucker/Scott/Mitchum/Mitchem who married Thomas Cline in Lincoln County in 1825. What a challenge ... or is this more likely a "mission impossible"? Alta Mitchem Durden ?? -----Original Message----- From: AaronGFett@aol.com To: nclincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 9:14 am Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Legal name changes Saw this on another list, it includes at least one person from Lincoln Co, NC _http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ncbertie/2003-01/1043621294_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ncbertie/2003-01/1043621294) **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

One thing to note in researching southern women. In the past and sometimes now, When southern women got married, I'm told that their maiden name became their middle name. So, if you had a Sarah Alice Crow marry Thomas Collins, Sarah might then appear on a census as Sallie C. Collins and be over looked. This is not a national practice. Until I had an office job in the South, I had never heard of this practice. I asked employees to complete a form. One lady omitted her middle name. When I took the form back to her, she said that she didn't know which name to use because she'd been married twice. I asked her to explain. According to the Department of Motor Vehicles in Lincoln County, it used to be a law for the maiden name to become the middle name. I wonder what the younger generation has decided to do. I would imagine they are following the paths of their mother. Please note, my main research is Ballards. Lincoln County Ballards migrated all over the US but mainly south west. A branch of Ballards migrated from Lincoln County to Greene County Illinois and other northern states where this practice isn't followed. I've lived in the South most of my life and didn't know this practice existed. It's something women did by decree of law and tradition. It could be confusing for a researcher having never heard of this naming practice. Lynne D. Miller **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: haroldfisher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4016.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks friend for your attempt to help me locate the name GADBERRY. That name is about all I am looking for. Gratefully HFISHER Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

-----Original Message----- From: Alta Mitchem Durden <altamdurden@aol.com> To: sully1@carolina.rr.com Cc: DerickH@charter.net; JLLYNN@aol.com; rcarpenter2@charter.net; dlamel@sw.rr.com; mitchem@carolina.rr.com; t_young@charter.net; RWRIGHT100@austin.rr.com; arboggs2i@comcast.net; MKiser1202@aol.com; carrie@buttercupfamilyroots.info; tmcgowin@earthlink.net; bobsue24@cox.net; BHULL2@triad.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 4:06 pm Subject: Re: Thomas Cline and wife Sarah of North Carolina and Bond County, Illinois THANK YOU, INDEED, KATHY, FOR "RESTORING MY RESEARCH SOUL"!? I was right, even to the detail that the biography in this book begins on page 76 ... as well as to my recollection that Henry Cline, father of Thomas Cline, b. abt. 1800, is said to have been?born in Germany ... at least that's what this informal biography indicates and what I recalled.? [I'm one of those persons who would rather be right than president, so know that I am indeed grateful to you, Kathy.] ? However, I get a different impression than you do (from this article)?about the marital status of Nathaniel Mitchum/Mitchem and Mollie/Polly Tucker.? Because the article indicates this, as to the wife of Thomas Cline, b. abt. 1800 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania: ".... Sarah Mitchem, born June 12, 1807 in Lincoln County, North Carolina, daughter of Nathaniel and Mollie (Tucker) Mitchem .... ", it is my perception .... right or wrong ... that the author of this biography has left the impression that Nathaniel Mitchum/Mitchem was the HUSBAND of, and therefore married to, Mollie/Polly Tucker.? THERE IS NO MENTION HERE, AS THERE IS ON SEVERAL DEATH CERTIFICATES ... ONE OF WHICH IS THAT OF THOMAS K. CLINE, SON OF THOMAS CLINE AND SARAH CLINE ...., INDICATING?THE MAIDEN NAME OF HIS MOTHER TO HAVE BEEN SARAH SCOTT.? Even if?Thomas K. Cline, (who gave this unaudited information to compiler Perrin), was attempting to conceal the fact that his Mother was an illegitimate child of Mollie/Polly Tucker, as you offer, he has, in this article, "legitimatized" his Mother's birth by indicating ... to me at least ... that Nathaniel Mitchum/Mitchem was not only?the Grandfather of Thomas K. Cline, but was married to his maternal grandmother, Mollie/Polly Tucker.? We KNOW that is not true.?? Rather, Nathaniel married Jemima Reynolds in October of 1801 and remained her spouse until he died in April of 1838 and when Jemima was awarded his widow's land dower in Lincoln County. I have made the mistake of assuming that Thomas K. Cline had extracted Nathaniel Mitchum's name from the 1815 marriage record of Molly/Mary Tucker to Thomas Tipps (where Nathaniel Mitchum served as bondsman ... and was NOT the groom); however, after more thought on this subject, and after reading your ideas about how this came about,?I have concluded, as you have, that Thomas K. Cline probably did not even know of the marriage of Molly/Mary Tucker to Thomas Tipps in 1815, but that his idea ... that his Mother, Sarah Scott, (or "Salley Tucker" as found in the Lincoln Court Minutes), was a daughter of Nathaniel Mitchum's ... ?likely came from his Mother?herself!? This concept makes it still more likely why?Sarah?Scott/Tucker gave her name as Sally Mitchum when she married Thomas Cline in Lincoln County in 1825!? She may even be the "fourth daughter" said to have been sired by Nathaniel Mitchum (although Nathaniel and Jemima, according to our research, had only three legitimate daughters along with ten sons, all born in Lincoln County where all thirteen of them lived to adulthood.) This is certainly refreshing, Kathy, and clears up much confusion (and consternation) that has a life of about a quarter century.? We need, now, to "free" Sally Mitchum Johnson?from ties to?Thomas Cline.? That just did not happen.? Alta -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Gunter Sullivan <sully1@carolina.rr.com> To: Alta Mitchem Durden <altamdurden@aol.com> Cc: DerickH@charter.net; JLLYNN@aol.com; rcarpenter2@charter.net; dlamel@sw.rr.com; mitchem@carolina.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 3:16 pm Subject: Thomas Cline and wife Sarah of North Carolina and Bond County, Illinois The biography names Sarah's parents as Nathaniel Mitchum and Mollie [sic: Polly] Tucker. The biography does not state the parents were married. The Unless it can be proved that Sarah's father was not Nathaniel Mitchem/Mitchum, then the information cannot be labeled as inaccurate. Presumably the source of the information was from Sarah to her son Thomas K. Cline. William Henry Perrin, History of Bond and Montgomery Counties, Illinois (Chicago: O. L. Baskin & Co., Historical Publishers, 1882), pp. 79-80. Transcription of the biographies published in the above can be accessed here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060515050237/http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilbond/1882bios/qryindex.htm Or here [Here is a abbreviated version of the url] http://tinyurl.com/2mwtjj Either should work. Page 79. Thomas K. CLINE, farmer, P. O. Woburn, was born on the farm where he now lives, Sept. 28, 1842. Is the youngest son of Thomas CLINE, the pioneer, who was born July 15, 1800, in Lancaster County, son of Henry CLINE, from Germany, with whom he emigrated from Pennsylvania to North Carolina when young. He had several brothers and sisters, who were Amos, Martin (Thomas) and Mary. October 18, 1825, Thomas CLINE was married to Sarah MITCHEM. She was born June 12, 1807, in Lincoln County, N. C., daughter of Nathaniel and Mollie (TUCKER) MITCHEM. After marriage, they raised one crop, and made a sale that fall which amounted in all to $109.25, which they could not then collect. The same [Continued on next page] Page 80. fall, they came to this county with one old blind mare. During that winter, Mr. CLINE went to Vandalia, where he was allowed to enter eighty acres, and pay for the same when he could command the money; he after entered eighty more. This land is now owned by his son Thomas, on Section 29. It was a wilderness then; but two houses between his home and Greenville at that time. He died June 24, 1868, and for many years was identified with the Presbyterian Church, but before his death a few years joined the Methodist Episcopal Church, there being no church here at that time. Eight children were born to him who grew up: Mary, William, Nancy, Lizzie, Jennie, John, Sarah and Thomas; the two latter are residents of this township. Thomas was raised a farmer. February, 1864, he enlisted in the Third Illinois Cavalry, Company G, and served until the fall of 1865, when he was mustered out, having participated in all the battles in which his command was engaged. In 1867, he married Sallie,! born in Fayette County, daughter of Frank DOYLE. Has six children - Lucy, Willie, Jennie, Frank, Josie and Peter. In 1879, he moved to the farm he now owns, where he has recently erected a new house. He has a very fine spring on his farm, which feeds a large fish pond, which is being stocked with many varieties of fish. His mother is yet living, and is like a shock of corn, fully ripe for her Master's use. She is a member of the Free Methodist Episcopal Church. Alta Mitchem Durden wrote: Derick, Jerry, and Debra (as well as Kathy Sullivan and Robert Carpenter) ?- ? This is a scholarly report, and much appreciated; however, there is not contained here ... that I could see ... any man named Thomas Cline, born about 1800 in Pennsylvania, the son of Henry Cline, born in Germany.? I am sure that I've read some other report that contains that information (but I don't have it at hand.)? The only Thomas Cline I see?in the attached report was born in 1825 and migrated to Tennessee.? Thus he cannot be the Thomas Cline who married in 1825 in Lincoln County and removed, soon afterward, to Bond County, Illinois with his wife, Sarah. Special note to Derick:?I recall that, a few years ago when I was researching this branch of Clines, that you, too, knew of other Lincoln County families who had removed to Bond County, Illinois during this same time period.? At the time you and I were corresponding on this subject, I called and spoke with a man named Kevin John Kaegy, head of the Bond County Historical Society, who had managed to secure a copy of the out-of-print book by Perrin (where the erroneous information about Nathaniel Mitchum had been published in 1882.)? Kevin now has published a book, "Greenville and Bond County (IL) (Images of America)", which, I believe contains, among other pictures,?a photograph of the gravemarker of an American Revolutionary War soldier named Lynn (which I sent to Jerry 'way back then, but who was not believed to be within Jerry Lynn's ancestry.)? At any rate, Kevin John Kaegy cherished his copy of Perrin's work even though he recognized its flaws. Perhaps it was in Perrin's book that I read the excerpts about Henry Cline (Heinrich Klein), born in Germany and father of Thomas Cline, b. abt. 1800 in Pennsylvania who, in 1825, was married in Lincoln County, North Carolina.? If that's the source of what I'm remembering, it was probably submitted by this same Thomas Knight Cline and it, too, could very well be just as inaccurate as the statements he made about Nathaniel Mitchum.? In Perrin's book of 1882, there were profiles of many of the Lincoln County families who removed to Bond County, Illinois and surrounding counties, such as Montgomery County.? I recall one of those families, specifically, as having the surname of "Glenn", and I corresponded with, also, a few?Glenn descendants living then in Illinois (three or four years ago.)? Because one of my computers crashed and another was destroyed by lightning, I do not now have their addresses. Debra:? I believe you have some means to get, online, excerpts from Perrin's book.? Please try to find the information in that book as regards the Cline family that left Lincoln County, North Carolina and re-settled in Bond County, Illinois.?I know I am not hallucinating!? Google has recently digitalized many old books.? I don't know if Perrin's 1882 book is one of them.? With my "Charlie Brown luck", it won't be digitalized, so I will depend on you to get it from whatever means I know you have.? Thanks. Alta ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Lynne Miller Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4016.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm sorry. I don't Gadberry in my database for any county. It must be an uncommon name for that region. Do you have any other NC names? I'll be glad to check for any name with a cross reference such as date of birth and name of spouse. Lynne D. Miller Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: haroldfisher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4016.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Friend, I see that you have quite a few Lincoln County NC surnames. I wish that mine had been included. I see so few postings on Lincoln County, I wonder if you have seen my family surname? WILLIAM GADBERRY and his family were there in 1820. By 1830 he seems to have been in Mecklinburg County, NC and he apparently died there a short time later. Gratefully Harold C. Fisher Yazoo County, MS Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Lynne Miller Surnames: Ballard, Morrow, Holthouser, Noles, Patterson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4016/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Descendants of William "Staten" Ballard 1 William "Staten" Ballard b: Aug 1780 VA d: 12 Sep 1844 in NC . Maxie "Madcap" Margaret Warlcof Earp b: 27 May 1785 MD m: Abt. 1806 d: 23 Sep 1870 2 Noah Ballard b: 1807 NC d: 1875 in Mecklenburg Co NC .... Nancy "Nannie" L. Cashion b: Abt. 1810 d: Aft. 1875 2 James Ballard b: Abt. 1810 d: in moved to IN or IL .... Miss McMinn b: Abt. 1810 2 Sylvester Ballard b: 1810 NC d: 18 Jul 1859 in NC .... Mary "Polly" Jones b: 1809 Lincoln Co., NC m: Bef. 1831 d: Aft. 1870 2 Lawson Ballard b: Abt. 1812 2 Phillip Ballard b: 1816 NC d: Aft. 1880 .... Margaret Elizabeth Huggins b: 13 Oct 1843 Nontfors Cove Rutherford Co NC m: 17 Mar 1864 in Lincoln Co., NC d: 24 Jun 1925 in 6/24/25 Gaston Co., NC (Old Marvin "now Beth Haven" Lincoln Co., NC) 2 Mary Ann Ballard b: Abt. 1820 .... Charles T. Eberhardt b: Abt. 1820 m: 22 Oct 1861 in Lincoln Co., NC 2 Elisha (B.E.) Ballard b: 10 Feb 1820 Lincoln Co., NC d: 11 Jan 1886 Burial: Bur. Beth Haven Baptist Church Cem. Denver Lincoln Co., NC .... Rebecca Cashion b: 26 Apr 1822 NC m: 08 Aug 1844 d: 16 Jun 1885 Burial: Bur. Beth Haven Baptist Church Cem. Denver Lincoln Co., NC 2 John Hillary Ballard b: 28 Nov 1821 Lincoln Co., NC d: 14 Nov 1914 Burial: Beth Haven Baptist Church Cem. Denver Lincoln Co., NC .... Rosa Lovina Patterson b: 08 Apr 1818 NC m: 09 Feb 1843 in Lincoln Co., NC d: 19 Apr 1853 *2nd Wife of John Hillary Ballard: .... Mary Ann Noles b: 24 Feb 1833 Elizabeth Co., TN m: 06 Dec 1855 in Mecklenburg Co NC d: 13 Jan 1917 in Denver Lincoln Co., NC Burial: Beth Haven Baptist Church Cem. Denver Lincoln Co., NC 2 William Staten Ballard, Jr b: 05 Jan 1826 NC d: 12 Jun 1898 in Iredell Co NC Burial: McKendree Methodist Church Davidson Iredell Co NC .... Martha Elizabeth "Lizzie" Morrow b: 16 Aug 1825 m: Abt. 1848 d: Bef. 1871 *2nd Wife of William Staten Ballard, Jr: .... Mary Evelyn Mayhew Holthouser b: 06 May 1839 m: 17 Jan 1871 d: 29 Jan 1917 Burial: Willow Valley Morresville NC Statesville Iredell Co NC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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-----Original Message----- From: Alta Mitchem Durden <altamdurden@aol.com> To: DerickH@charter.net; JLLYNN@aol.com; rcarpenter2@charter.net; dlamel@sw.rr.com Cc: sully1@carolina.rr.com; mitchem@carolina.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 2:20 pm Subject: Re: Hog Henry for 3 gen. Derick, Jerry, and Debra (as well as Kathy Sullivan and Robert Carpenter) ?- ? This is a scholarly report, and much appreciated; however, there is not contained here ... that I could see ... any man named Thomas Cline, born about 1800 in Pennsylvania, the son of Henry Cline, born in Germany.? I am sure that I've read some other report that contains that information (but I don't have it at hand.)? The only Thomas Cline I see?in the attached report was born in 1825 and migrated to Tennessee.? Thus he cannot be the Thomas Cline who married in 1825 in Lincoln County and removed, soon afterward, to Bond County, Illinois with his wife, Sarah. Special note to Derick:?I recall that, a few years ago when I was researching this branch of Clines, that you, too, knew of other Lincoln County families who had removed to Bond County, Illinois during this same time period.? At the time you and I were corresponding on this subject, I called and spoke with a man named Kevin John Kaegy, head of the Bond County Historical Society, who had managed to secure a copy of the out-of-print book by Perrin (where the erroneous information about Nathaniel Mitchum had been published in 1882.)? Kevin now has published a book, "Greenville and Bond County (IL) (Images of America)", which, I believe contains, among other pictures,?a photograph of the gravemarker of an American Revolutionary War soldier named Lynn (which I sent to Jerry 'way back then, but who was not believed to be within Jerry Lynn's ancestry.)? At any rate, Kevin John Kaegy cherished his copy of Perrin's work even though he recognized its flaws. Perhaps it was in Perrin's book that I read the excerpts about Henry Cline (Heinrich Klein), born in Germany and father of Thomas Cline, b. abt. 1800 in Pennsylvania who, in 1825, was married in Lincoln County, North Carolina.? If that's the source of what I'm remembering, it was probably submitted by this same Thomas Knight Cline and it, too, could very well be just as inaccurate as the statements he made about Nathaniel Mitchum.? In Perrin's book of 1882, there were profiles of many of the Lincoln County families who removed to Bond County, Illinois and surrounding counties, such as Montgomery County.? I recall one of those families, specifically, as having the surname of "Glenn", and I corresponded with, also, a few?Glenn descendants living then in Illinois (three or four years ago.)? Because one of my computers crashed and another was destroyed by lightning, I do not now have their addresses. Debra:? I believe you have some means to get, online, excerpts from Perrin's book.? Please try to find the information in that book as regards the Cline family that left Lincoln County, North Carolina and re-settled in Bond County, Illinois.?I know I am not hallucinating!? Google has recently digitalized many old books.? I don't know if Perrin's 1882 book is one of them.? With my "Charlie Brown luck", it won't be digitalized, so I will depend on you to get it from whatever means I know you have.? Thanks. Alta -----Original Message----- From: Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> To: JLLYNN@aol.com; altamdurden@aol.com; rcarpenter2@charter.net; dlamel@sw.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 1:05 pm Subject: Hog Henry for 3 gen. Here is the promised report.? Any comments or corrections appreciated.? ? --Derick? More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

-----Original Message----- From: Alta Mitchem Durden <altamdurden@aol.com> To: JLLYNN@aol.com; dlamel@sw.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 2:44 pm Subject: Re: 1860 Bond County, Illinois Sorry to say, Jerry, I don't understand this e-mail.? Are you saying that the Thomas and Sarah Cline, on all these several Bond County, Illinois census records, are not the same Thomas and Sarah Cline who were married in Lincoln County in 1825?? If not, make it a little simpler for me!? LOL.? Alta -----Original Message----- From: JLLYNN@aol.com To: AltaMDurden@aol.com; dlamel@sw.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 1:54 pm Subject: 1860 Bond County, Illinois ? Attached is the 1860 Bond County, Illinois Census record for Thomas Cline. He is listed as being 60 and Sarah is getting younger at 54 but would have been 57, Thomas was deceased in 1870 and Sarah is even younger. There are three Thomas Clines in Ohio in 1840 and many from Ohio and Indiana settled in Illinois when it became a State. A migration from Lincoln County, NC to Indiana occurred between 1810 and 1820. Sarah may have been within that group. The Pilgrims of Lynn Mountain migrated to Indiana during that time. William Pilgrim "returned" the farm that he had obtained from John Lynn. My Great Grandfather was William Pilgrim Lynn and I suspect that he may have been a nephew of William Pilgrim who had married?a daughter of John and Rachel McElroy Lynn. ? ? ?If there was an arbitrary assignment by a Bond County researcher of the Sally Mitchem and Thomas Cline?marriage in NC being applied to the Thomas and Sarah Cline of Bond County?they have wasted countless time of many of the Mitchem researchers! Jerry Lynn The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. [Image Removed] More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

-----Original Message----- From: Alta Mitchem Durden <altamdurden@aol.com> To: JLLYNN@aol.com; dlamel@sw.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 1:44 pm Subject: Re: Thomas Cline Jerry -? I've seen this previously when I was, a few years ago, ?"into" researching the wife of Thomas Cline, b. abt. 1800 in Pennsylvania.? This is precisely what I remember about these people.? We also have the will of Thomas Cline, dated 1867, in which he names his wife only as "Sarah".? By the way, if you will look closely at the image you will see that son Thomas's name is actually "Thomas K.", and not "Thomas R.", as transcribed.? The scrivener "drug" his pen, which makes this look like an "R" when it is really a "K" (which stands for "Knight", son Thomas's middle name.) Thank you, as usual. Alta -----Original Message----- From: JLLYNN@aol.com To: AltaMDurden@aol.com; dlamel@sw.rr.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:38 pm Subject: Thomas Cline The 1850 Bond County, Illinois Census: ? Thomas Cline?????? 50 born in Pennsylvania Sarah?????????????????? 47 born in NC William M???????????? 21 born in Illinois Nancy?????????????????? 18 " Elizabeth?????????????? 16 " Jane????????????????????? 14 " John????????????????????? 12 " Sarah????????????????????? 9 " Thomas R????????????????8?" Attached is the actual Census. Sarah at 47 rules out Sally Michem wife of Henry Johnson. Jerry Lynn The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. [Image Removed] More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Derick, do these references include David Cline (1766-1828 who married Sarah Salome Carpenter? I have a question mark beside the parents as being Christopher Cline and Margaret Ramsaur.- I am also trying to verify that John Cline (1790-1845) who married Catherine Mull is their son. Any help is appreciated. Charlotte---- Original Message ----- From: "Derick Hartshorn" <DerickH@charter.net> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > At 11:47 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote: >>What does this mean then, Jerry, in re: Thomas Cline who married >>Sarah "Whoever" in 1825?? In that he was not yet married, he is not >>likely to be on the 1820 census as head of household, and we know he >>was in Bond County, Illinois by 1830.? Do you?find any men on 1820 >>Lincoln?census named Henry Cline in whose household there is a male >>of the age of about 20 years?? (Sometimes, Kline or Klein).? ? I >>know I didn't dream all this, but I don't now have any hard copy or >>computerized records dealing with the research done years ago in this regard.?? >>Alta > > I have limited research on this line as I have tried to focus my > efforts on Catawba County families. Since this family removed from > here, I only recorded a generation or two. Since this discussion, I > have relied on George Cline's book, "The Cline Families of North > Carolina 1750-1860 And Their European Ancestry, 1580-1750". I have > composed a report on three generations of "Hog Henry" Cline's family > with as much accuracy as I can muster. Since many of the references > come from Ciscero Cline, let the reader beware. > > I am sending this report directly to those who have participated in > the discussion. Anyone else who would like a copy (in Word/Win) > please write me as the list doesn't allow attachments (for good reason). > > --Derick > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 11:47 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote: >What does this mean then, Jerry, in re: Thomas Cline who married >Sarah "Whoever" in 1825?? In that he was not yet married, he is not >likely to be on the 1820 census as head of household, and we know he >was in Bond County, Illinois by 1830.? Do you?find any men on 1820 >Lincoln?census named Henry Cline in whose household there is a male >of the age of about 20 years?? (Sometimes, Kline or Klein).? ? I >know I didn't dream all this, but I don't now have any hard copy or >computerized records dealing with the research done years ago in this regard.?? >Alta I have limited research on this line as I have tried to focus my efforts on Catawba County families. Since this family removed from here, I only recorded a generation or two. Since this discussion, I have relied on George Cline's book, "The Cline Families of North Carolina 1750-1860 And Their European Ancestry, 1580-1750". I have composed a report on three generations of "Hog Henry" Cline's family with as much accuracy as I can muster. Since many of the references come from Ciscero Cline, let the reader beware. I am sending this report directly to those who have participated in the discussion. Anyone else who would like a copy (in Word/Win) please write me as the list doesn't allow attachments (for good reason). --Derick

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Author: WileyJarrell72 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4015/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ====================================================================== Sources source note 1: Ronald Jarrell Sebastian source note 2: Nancy Lee Jarrel Long source note 3: Betty Towery source note 4: suggested by cemetery site source note 5: enumeration - Cherryville Memorial cemetery ====================================================================== I'm looking for additional data (dates, places, spouses, significant and insignifcant others, children, and cemeteries) on the following: FAMILY EDGE PLUS EXTENDED FAMILY REPORT ====================================================================== HUSBAND: Adam JARRELL BORN: 24 Dec 1804 NC MARR: 26 Sep 1846 Lincoln Co NC DIED: 14 Mar 1905 probably, Rutherford Co NC BURIED: Mount Pleasant Baptist Church Cem, Rutherford Co NC NOTE: father born Va, mother born NC; ADD. SP: Married 1891 "Arty M." Artemia M. (Attie) ROSS (Ledford); FATHER: MOTHER: SOURCES: Birth...data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 BPlace..data supplied by source note 2, 17 Mar 2002 Death...data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 DPlace..source note 4 ====================================================================== WIFE: Margaret QUEEN BORN: circa 1815 NC DIED: before 1891 Rutherford Co NC BURIED: Mount Pleasant Baptist Church Cem, Rutherford Co NC NOTE: some sources show dob circa 1823 FATHER: ??? QUEEN b:____, NC. MOTHER: ??? ??? B:____, NC. SOURCES: BPlace..data supplied by source note 1, 4 Jul 2003 Death...data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 DPlace..source note 4 Father..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 Mother..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 ====================================================================== 1 | NAME: William Vance JARRELL M | BORN: | MARR: | DIED: living 1905 Rutherford Co NC | WIFE: ??? ??? | BORN: DIED: | SRCE: Other...data supplied by source note 3, 3 Jul 2003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by ??? ??? 1 | NAME: Joseph Cullen JARRELL M | BORN: 25 Dec 1898 Gaston Co NC | MARR: | DIED: 14 Mar 1953 Gaston Co NC | WIFE: Laura HULL | BORN: 15 Dec 1903 DIED: 3 Feb 2000 | SRCE: Oth..data supplied by source note 3, 3 Jul 2003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by ??? ??? 2 | NAME: Leona JARRELL F | BORN: 8 Feb 1893 | MARR: | DIED: 5 Jul 1975 probably, Gaston Co NC | BUR: Cherryville Memorial Cem, Cherryville, Gaston Co NC | HUSB: Robert Cletus CANIPE | BORN: 9 Jun 1892 DIED: 19 May 1972 | SRCE: Bth..source note 5 | Dth..source note 5 | DPl..source note 4 | Oth..data supplied by source note 2, 22 Nov 2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 | NAME: William JARRELL M | BORN: circa 1849 | MARR: | DIED: living 1850 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | SRCE: Other...data supplied by source note 2, 17 Mar 2002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 | NAME: Mary JARRELL F | BORN: circa 1841 | MARR: | DIED: living 1844 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | NOTE: this Mary probably isn't! | SRCE: Other...data supplied by source note 2, 17 Mar 2002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 | NAME: "Wilse" Williamson Franklin (Wilson) JARRELL M | BORN: circa 1842 Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1900 enumerated with father and stepmother, | Rutherford Co NC | WIFE: Nancy Liles EARLY | BORN: roughly 1842 DIED: | ALSO: Married Mary TOWERY; | Married 1901 Rachel BOLIN (Bolden); | NOTE: some sources show dob c 1852/1850; 1900 - widowed | SRCE: Name....Franklin supplied by source note 2, 19 Jul 2003 | Name....nick name supplied by source note 2, 19 Jul 2003 | BPlace..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 | Death...data supplied by source note 1, 21 Jun 2004 | DPlace..data supplied by source note 1, 21 Jun 2004 | Other...data supplied by source note 2, 17 Mar 2002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Nancy Liles EARLY 1 | NAME: Ella (or Ellen) JARRELL M | BORN: of, Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: | SRCE: Oth..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Nancy Liles EARLY 2 | NAME: Julie JARRELL F | BORN: of, Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: | HUSB: ??? ??? | BORN: DIED: | NOTE: raised by Avery Towery | SRCE: Oth..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Rachel BOLIN (Bolden) 1 | NAME: Isaac JARRELL M | BORN: of, Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: | SRCE: Oth..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Rachel BOLIN (Bolden) 2 | NAME: Adam Shufort JARRELL M | BORN: of, Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1918 Chase City, VA | SRCE: Nme..mid name supplied by source note 2, 29 Oct 2005 | Dth..data supplied by source note 2, 29 Oct 2005 | DPl..data supplied by source note 2, 29 Oct 2005 | Oth..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Rachel BOLIN (Bolden) 3 | NAME: Saphroni Rachel JARRELL F | BORN: of, Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: | HUSB: Zero MCNEILLY | BORN: DIED: | NOTE: raised by Cullen and Sarah Ramsey Hull | SRCE: Oth..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Mary TOWERY 1 | NAME: Bertha JARRELL M | BORN: of, Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: | SRCE: Oth..data supplied by source note 3, 22 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Mary TOWERY 2 | NAME: Frank JARRELL M | BORN: of, Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 | NAME: Isaac JARRELL M | BORN: circa 1844 Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1850 Rutherford Co NC | NOTE: some sources show dob circa 1854 | SRCE: BPlace..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 | Other...data supplied by source note 2, 17 Mar 2002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 | NAME: "Tenie" Christine JARRELL F | BORN: | MARR: | DIED: before 3 Sep 1899 | HUSB: John Calvin QUEEN | BORN: DIED: before 3 Sep 1899 | SRCE: Other...data supplied by O. Eugene Queen, 30 May 2003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by John Calvin QUEEN 1 | NAME: ??? QUEEN F | BORN: | MARR: | DIED: | NOTE: unknown - added for descendancy chart purposes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 | NAME: Mary JARRELL F | BORN: circa 1849 Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1860 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | HUSB: "Frank" Franklin RANDALL | BORN: DIED: | SRCE: Birth...data supplied by source note 1, 4 Jul 2003 | BPlace..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 | Death...data supplied by source note 1, 25 Nov 2005 | DPlace..data supplied by source note 1, 25 Nov 2005 | Other...data supplied by source note 3, 3 Jul 2003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by "Frank" Franklin RANDALL 1 | NAME: ??? RANDALL F | BORN: | MARR: | DIED: | NOTE: unknown - added for descendancy chart purposes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 | NAME: Christeny JARRELL F | BORN: circa 1853 NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1870 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | NOTE: not listed by all sources; some sources show dob circa 1862 | SRCE: Other...data supplied by source note 1, 21 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 9 ? NAME: Mary E. JARRELL F ? BORN: circa 1866 NC ? MARR: ? DIED: living 1870 enumerated with Jarrell grand parents, ? Rutherford Co NC ? NOTE: not child, but grandchild of this family ? SRCE: Other...data supplied by source note 1, 21 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 ? NAME: Adam S. JARRELL M ? BORN: circa 1868 NC ? MARR: ? DIED: living 1870 enumerated with Jarrell grand parents, ? Rutherford Co NC ? NOTE: not child, but grandchild of this family ? SRCE: Other...data supplied by source note 1, 21 Jun 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 ? NAME: Frony M.C. JARRELL F ? BORN: circa 1869 NC ? MARR: ? DIED: living 1870 enumerated with Jarrell grand parents, ? Rutherford Co NC ? NOTE: not child, but grandchild of this family ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 12 | NAME: Nancy JARRELL F | BORN: 1847 Rutherford Co NC | MARR: | DIED: 1859 of Scarlet Fever, Rutherford Co NC | SRCE: Death...data supplied by source note 2, 28 Oct 2005 | DPlace..data supplied by source note 2, 28 Oct 2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 13 | NAME: Vance JARRELL M | BORN: Oct 1860 Rutherford Co NC | MARR: circa 1888 NC | DIED: living 1900 Golden Valley, Rutherford Co NC | WIFE: Mary SMITH | BORN: Jan 1865 DIED: living 1900 | NOTE: not listed by all sources | SRCE: Death...data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | DPlace..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | Other...data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Mary SMITH 1 | NAME: Christina JARRELL F | BORN: Dec 1889 NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1900 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | SRCE: Bth..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | BPl..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | Dth..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | DPl..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | Oth..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Mary SMITH 2 | NAME: Margaret JARRELL F | BORN: Nov 1891 NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1900 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | SRCE: Dth..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | DPl..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | Oth..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Mary SMITH 3 | NAME: Leona JARRELL F | BORN: Jan 1893 NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1900 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | SRCE: Dth..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | DPl..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | Oth..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Mary SMITH 4 | NAME: Julius JARRELL M | BORN: Jun 1895 NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1900 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | SRCE: Dth..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | DPl..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | Oth..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Grandchild by Mary SMITH 5 | NAME: Joseph C. JARRELL M | BORN: Dec 1899 NC | MARR: | DIED: living 1900 enumerated with parents, Rutherford Co NC | SRCE: Dth..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | DPl..data supplied by source note 1, 16 Feb 2005 | Oth..data supplied by source note 2, 24 Jul 2004 ====================================================================== If you can add, subtract, delete, change any of the above data please advise. If you have any questions about the data feel free to ask! Wiley Alston Jarrell 15610 Edenvale Friendswood Texas, 77546 wajarrell@earthlink.net 281-482-3671 <>< Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 2/14/2008 10:38:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, altamdurden@aol.com writes: What does this mean then, Jerry, in re: Thomas Cline who married Sarah "Whoever" in 1825?? In that he was not yet married, he is not likely to be on the 1820 census as head of household, and we know he was in Bond County, Illinois by 1830.? Do you?find any men on 1820 Lincoln?census named Henry Cline in whose household there is a male of the age of about 20 years?? (Sometimes, Kline or Klein).? ? I know I didn't dream all this, but I don't now have any hard copy or computerized records dealing with the research done years ago in this regard.?? Alta In 1800 Henry Cline had four sons under 10 and two daughters 10-16. In 1820 he had one son and no daughters. This son was Jacob who died in 1823 and is buried in the Old White Church Cemetery. John and Susannah Cline Butts and son John T lived close to him. in the 1820 LC Census there were possibly two other Henry Clines(one listed as H Cline) but with sons under 10. With two of the five sons listed in the 1810 LC Census for Henry Cline of Lincolnton accounted for in 1820 there is a possibility that a son named Thomas Cline migrated from Lincoln County before 1820. Is there a document existing that has Thomas Cline as the son of Henry Cline from Germany? There is also the possibility that other Henry Clines existed from the five sons of the progenitor Sebastian Cline and did not live in Lincoln County. I think that some of the oldest sons of Sebastian were born in Germany. There were 18 Cline families listed in the 1820 LC Census. There were 8 in 1800. Another's research list the five sons for Henry and Elizabeth Carpenter Cline as Henry, William, John T, Jacob, and Charles and one daughter Sarah who married John Rudisill. Jerry Lynn (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cobb/) **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

Derick I did not get it either Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derick Hartshorn" <DerickH@charter.net> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > Did you get what I sent? > > --Derick > > > At 10:01 PM 2/13/2008, you wrote: > > >> >From WD Floyd's CD Set >> >>Old White Church Cemetery Lincoln Co NC >> >>Cline, Jacob 26y,??m,10d January 11, 1823 (Actual age 28 according to >>Derick) >> >>Cline, Elizabeth March 16, 1767 August 27, 1839 >> >>Cline, Henry November 3, 1765 December 24, 1843 >> >>Cline, Jane Elizabeth 17y, 23d August 12, 1842 d/o John & Elizabeth >> >>Cline, John June 13, 1796 April 12, 1857 >> >>Cline, Elizabeth December 18, 1793 November 4, 1874 >> >>Debra >> >>Robert you have the same dates but at a different cem? >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >>To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:34 PM >>Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline >> >> >> >I list Henry Cline as being buried at Emmanuels Lutheran Church Cemetery >> > with the following statistics: >> > >> > b. Nov 3, 1765; d. Dec. 24, 1843. Elizabeth is buried beside him >> > with >> > b. Mar 16, 1767; d. Aug 27, 1839. >> > >> > It has been a very long time but I believe there was another Henry >> > Cline >> > of >> > similar age. >> > >> > Robert Carpenter >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Alta Mitchem Durden" <altamdurden@aol.com> >> > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com>; <dlamel@sw.rr.com> >> > Cc: <yoderj6@charter.net>; <refgcpl@hotmail.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:26 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline >> > >> > >> >> Jerry -? Was wondering how long before you'd chimed in!? Thanks.? >> >> >> >> The sources I read, giving information about Heinrich Klein's having >> >> been >> >> born in Germany ... then coming?to Pennsylvania, and finally migrating >> >> to >> >> North Carolina ... seemed to be reliable and authentic.? Perhaps Henry >> >> "Hog" Cline is not the same person as that buried in the Old White >> >> Cemetery in Lincolnton, thought to have been the father of Thomas >> >> Cline >> >> b. >> >> abt. 1800, who was married in Lincoln County in 1825? >> >> >> >> There's a Cline?surname folder in the Jonas Library at Lincolnton, >> >> (704) >> >> 735-8044.? Perhaps a reference librarian ---??refgcpl@hotmail.com --- >> >> could let us know tomorrow the dates for the?man named Henry >> >> Cline/Heinrich Klein?buried in the Old White Cemetery in Lincolnton?? >> >> Maybe other family members are buried nearby.? I've seen a printed >> >> survey >> >> of that cemetery online, but have not looked for it tonight. >> >> >> >> Alta >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: JLLYNN@aol.com >> >> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com; dlamel@sw.rr.com >> >> Cc: yoderj6@charter.net >> >> Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 9:00 pm >> >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Alta and Debra: >> >> >> >> Henry "Hog" Cline was not born in Germany but what was to become >> >> Lincoln >> >> County. His son John T Cline who married Elizabeth Cathey became a >> >> "hatter" >> >> learning the trade from his Uncle John Butts who married a sister of >> >> Henry >> >> Cline. >> >> John T owned a shop in Lincolnton and obtained substantial assets >> >> before >> >> passing 12 April 1857 leaving a Will in the Lincolnton Courthouse. >> >> John >> >> was >> >> only >> >> 61 but the life and sanity of hatters was impacted by the use of >> >> mercury >> >> to >> >> construct the hats, hence "the Mad Hatter" story. A person that was >> >> responsible for the Cline Association of Western North Carolina was >> >> John >> >> Yoder >> >> at >> >> _yoderj6@charter.net_ (mailto:yoderj6@charter.net) in 2002. He most >> >> likely is >> >> the person that has documented much of the Cline Family. Cicero Cline >> >> has >> >> a >> >> paper in the Newton Library piecing together some of the extensive >> >> Cline >> >> Family >> >> >> >> with Sebastian (Bostian) Cline being the progenitor. I spent >> >> countless >> >> time >> >> in attempting to link the Lincolnton Clines with the Catawba County >> >> Clines but >> >> was not very successful. I do have lots of descendants of John T and >> >> Elizabeth Cathey since they are my ancestors. The name Hog Henry >> >> stems >> >> from a >> >> story >> >> related by Cicero Cline which I have not documented but had to do >> >> with >> >> his >> >> "Dutch" in using another word rather than hog. As I recall Cicero's >> >> document >> >> was not too successful in forming the exact families but had >> >> interesting >> >> information regarding the Clines. John T Cline was well educated with >> >> excellent >> >> >> >> penmanship. I descend from his daughter Nancy Caroline who married >> >> Alfred >> >> Lewis >> >> >> >> Hoke. These two are buried at St Luke Episcopal in Lincolnton >> >> although >> >> one >> >> child is buried at the Old White Church. I went through the Cline >> >> Estates >> >> at >> >> NC Archives but information regarding Henry is lacking. I have >> >> Sebastian >> >> Cline >> >> with five sons and six daughters with the first born in 1738. There >> >> would >> >> be >> >> multiple Heinrich Kleins from these five sons born before 1770. Hog >> >> Henry >> >> was more of an established Cline in Lincolnton and I do not suspect he >> >> would >> >> have had a son to migrate to Illinois. IBM migrated me to Chicago for >> >> two >> >> years and, although Chicago is a beautiful city, I knew I was >> >> migrating >> >> back to >> >> >> >> North Carolina! Getting off the subject with some bull so will close. >> >> Regards, >> >> Jerry Lynn >> >> PS: Copied John Yoder but suspect it will be returned to me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 2/13/2008 8:00:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> >> altamdurden@aol.com writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> This information is likely to be found?in Lorena Shell Eaker's book, >> >> "German-Speaking People West of the Catawba - (Years)".? I've loaned >> >> my >> >> copy to >> >> >> >> someone; otherwise, I would look it up for you.? Also, Lorena has >> >> recently >> >> changed e-mail addresses and I do not have the most current one.? >> >> Perhaps >> >> someone >> >> on this list will kindly forward this request to Lorena. >> >> >> >> Alta >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Debra LaMel <dlamel@sw.rr.com> >> >> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com >> >> Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 7:53 pm >> >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks Robert a bunch >> >> >> >> Thomas Cline came from the moon! I guess! LOL >> >> >> >> Debra >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >> >> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:34 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline >> >> >> >> >> >>> Debra, >> >>> >> >>> I am on the list. I do have some information on Henry and >> >>> Elizabeth >> >>> Carpenter Cline in Carpenters A Plenty. >> >>> >> >>> Another source would be the newly (within the last 10 years or so) >> >>> Cline >> >>> History. I do not have a copy of it but have some xeroxed pages >> >>> from >> >>> it. >> >>> >> >>> I will see if I have anything about the Henry Cline family. >> >>> >> >>> What I wrote about this family in Carpenters A Plenty was mainly >> >>> from >> >>> other >> >>> researcher's work. I did little primary source research on this >> >>> family. >> >>> >> >>> Robert Carpenter >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Debra LaMel" <dlamel@sw.rr.com> >> >>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:29 AM >> >>> Subject: [NCLINCOL] Cline >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Does anyone know if Robert C Carpenter who published Carpenter's A >> >>>> Plenty >> >>>> is on the mailing list or does someone have this book and does it >> >>>> cover >> >>>> Elizabeth Carpenter (Zimmerman) who married Henry Cline b 1765 d >> >>>> 1843 >> >>>> and >> >>>> are buried at Old White Church Cem in LC NC. >> >>>> I am trying to prove that Thomas Cline who's father was named Henry >> >>>> might >> >>>> have been a son or grandson of Henry who married Elizabeth. >> >>>> >> >>>> If so how many children they had and their names! >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Debra LaMel >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cobb/) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the >> >> Grammy >> >> Awards. 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I wonder if anyone has made ... or might make, please ... an effort to read the headstone in the Old White Church Cemetery that Mr. W. D. Floyd notates as: "Can't read - German" just before he listed Jacob Cline??? This person died in 1801, according to Mr. Floyd. Thank you. Alta -----Original Message----- From: Alta Mitchem Durden <altamdurden@aol.com> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:42 am Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline Sorry, Derick.? I received nothing from you.? Could you please re-send ... and thanks, as always.? Alta -----Original Message----- From: Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 9:15 am Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline Did you get what I sent? --Derick At 10:01 PM 2/13/2008, you wrote: > >From WD Floyd's CD Set > >Old White Church Cemetery Lincoln Co NC > >Cline, Jacob 26y,??m,10d January 11, 1823 (Actual age 28 according to >Derick) > >Cline, Elizabeth March 16, 1767 August 27, 1839 > >Cline, Henry November 3, 1765 December 24, 1843 > >Cline, Jane Elizabeth 17y, 23d August 12, 1842 d/o John & Elizabeth > >Cline, John June 13, 1796 April 12, 1857 > >Cline, Elizabeth December 18, 1793 November 4, 1874 > >Debra > >Robert you have the same dates but at a different cem? > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:34 PM >Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > > > >I list Henry Cline as being buried at Emmanuels Lutheran Church Cemetery > > with the following statistics: > > > > b. Nov 3, 1765; d. Dec. 24, 1843. Elizabeth is buried beside him with > > b. Mar 16, 1767; d. Aug 27, 1839. > > > > It has been a very long time but I believe there was another Henry Cline > > of > > similar age. > > > > Robert Carpenter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alta Mitchem Durden" <altamdurden@aol.com> > > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com>; <dlamel@sw.rr.com> > > Cc: <yoderj6@charter.net>; <refgcpl@hotmail.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > > > > > >> Jerry -? Was wondering how long before you'd chimed in!? Thanks.? > >> > >> The sources I read, giving information about Heinrich Klein's having been > >> born in Germany ... then coming?to Pennsylvania, and finally migrating to > >> North Carolina ... seemed to be reliable and authentic.? Perhaps Henry > >> "Hog" Cline is not the same person as that buried in the Old White > >> Cemetery in Lincolnton, thought to have been the father of Thomas Cline > >> b. > >> abt. 1800, who was married in Lincoln County in 1825? > >> > >> There's a Cline?surname folder in the Jonas Library at Lincolnton, (704) > >> 735-8044.? Perhaps a reference librarian ---??refgcpl@hotmail.com --- > >> could let us know tomorrow the dates for the?man named Henry > >> Cline/Heinrich Klein?buried in the Old White Cemetery in Lincolnton?? > >> Maybe other family members are buried nearby.? I've seen a printed survey > >> of that cemetery online, but have not looked for it tonight. > >> > >> Alta > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: JLLYNN@aol.com > >> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com; dlamel@sw.rr.com > >> Cc: yoderj6@charter.net > >> Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 9:00 pm > >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Alta and Debra: > >> > >> Henry "Hog" Cline was not born in Germany but what was to become Lincoln > >> County. His son John T Cline who married Elizabeth Cathey became a > >> "hatter" > >> learning the trade from his Uncle John Butts who married a sister of > >> Henry > >> Cline. > >> John T owned a shop in Lincolnton and obtained substantial assets before > >> passing 12 April 1857 leaving a Will in the Lincolnton Courthouse. John > >> was > >> only > >> 61 but the life and sanity of hatters was impacted by the use of mercury > >> to > >> construct the hats, hence "the Mad Hatter" story. A person that was > >> responsible for the Cline Association of Western North Carolina was John > >> Yoder > >> at > >> _yoderj6@charter.net_ (mailto:yoderj6@charter.net) in 2002. He most > >> likely is > >> the person that has documented much of the Cline Family. Cicero Cline > >> has > >> a > >> paper in the Newton Library piecing together some of the extensive Cline > >> Family > >> > >> with Sebastian (Bostian) Cline being the progenitor. I spent countless > >> time > >> in attempting to link the Lincolnton Clines with the Catawba County > >> Clines but > >> was not very successful. I do have lots of descendants of John T and > >> Elizabeth Cathey since they are my ancestors. The name Hog Henry stems > >> from a > >> story > >> related by Cicero Cline which I have not documented but had to do with > >> his > >> "Dutch" in using another word rather than hog. As I recall Cicero's > >> document > >> was not too successful in forming the exact families but had interesting > >> information regarding the Clines. John T Cline was well educated with > >> excellent > >> > >> penmanship. I descend from his daughter Nancy Caroline who married > >> Alfred > >> Lewis > >> > >> Hoke. These two are buried at St Luke Episcopal in Lincolnton although > >> one > >> child is buried at the Old White Church. I went through the Cline > >> Estates > >> at > >> NC Archives but information regarding Henry is lacking. I have Sebastian > >> Cline > >> with five sons and six daughters with the first born in 1738. There > >> would > >> be > >> multiple Heinrich Kleins from these five sons born before 1770. Hog > >> Henry > >> was more of an established Cline in Lincolnton and I do not suspect he > >> would > >> have had a son to migrate to Illinois. IBM migrated me to Chicago for > >> two > >> years and, although Chicago is a beautiful city, I knew I was migrating > >> back to > >> > >> North Carolina! Getting off the subject with some bull so will close. > >> Regards, > >> Jerry Lynn > >> PS: Copied John Yoder but suspect it will be returned to me. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 2/13/2008 8:00:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >> altamdurden@aol.com writes: > >> > >> > >> This information is likely to be found?in Lorena Shell Eaker's book, > >> "German-Speaking People West of the Catawba - (Years)".? I've loaned my > >> copy to > >> > >> someone; otherwise, I would look it up for you.? Also, Lorena has > >> recently > >> changed e-mail addresses and I do not have the most current one.? Perhaps > >> someone > >> on this list will kindly forward this request to Lorena. > >> > >> Alta > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Debra LaMel <dlamel@sw.rr.com> > >> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 7:53 pm > >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks Robert a bunch > >> > >> Thomas Cline came from the moon! I guess! LOL > >> > >> Debra > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> > >> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:34 PM > >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >> > >> > >>> Debra, > >>> > >>> I am on the list. I do have some information on Henry and Elizabeth > >>> Carpenter Cline in Carpenters A Plenty. > >>> > >>> Another source would be the newly (within the last 10 years or so) > >>> Cline > >>> History. I do not have a copy of it but have some xeroxed pages from > >>> it. > >>> > >>> I will see if I have anything about the Henry Cline family. > >>> > >>> What I wrote about this family in Carpenters A Plenty was mainly from > >>> other > >>> researcher's work. I did little primary source research on this > >>> family. > >>> > >>> Robert Carpenter > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Debra LaMel" <dlamel@sw.rr.com> > >>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:29 AM > >>> Subject: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >>> > >>> > >>>> Does anyone know if Robert C Carpenter who published Carpenter's A > >>>> Plenty > >>>> is on the mailing list or does someone have this book and does it > >>>> cover > >>>> Elizabeth Carpenter (Zimmerman) who married Henry Cline b 1765 d 1843 > >>>> and > >>>> are buried at Old White Church Cem in LC NC. > >>>> I am trying to prove that Thomas Cline who's father was named Henry > >>>> might > >>>> have been a son or grandson of Henry who married Elizabeth. > >>>> > >>>> If so how many children they had and their names! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Debra LaMel > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cobb/) > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > >> Awards. 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Sorry, Derick.? I received nothing from you.? Could you please re-send ... and thanks, as always.? Alta -----Original Message----- From: Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 9:15 am Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline Did you get what I sent? --Derick At 10:01 PM 2/13/2008, you wrote: > >From WD Floyd's CD Set > >Old White Church Cemetery Lincoln Co NC > >Cline, Jacob 26y,??m,10d January 11, 1823 (Actual age 28 according to >Derick) > >Cline, Elizabeth March 16, 1767 August 27, 1839 > >Cline, Henry November 3, 1765 December 24, 1843 > >Cline, Jane Elizabeth 17y, 23d August 12, 1842 d/o John & Elizabeth > >Cline, John June 13, 1796 April 12, 1857 > >Cline, Elizabeth December 18, 1793 November 4, 1874 > >Debra > >Robert you have the same dates but at a different cem? > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> >To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:34 PM >Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > > > >I list Henry Cline as being buried at Emmanuels Lutheran Church Cemetery > > with the following statistics: > > > > b. Nov 3, 1765; d. Dec. 24, 1843. Elizabeth is buried beside him with > > b. Mar 16, 1767; d. Aug 27, 1839. > > > > It has been a very long time but I believe there was another Henry Cline > > of > > similar age. > > > > Robert Carpenter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alta Mitchem Durden" <altamdurden@aol.com> > > To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com>; <dlamel@sw.rr.com> > > Cc: <yoderj6@charter.net>; <refgcpl@hotmail.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > > > > > >> Jerry -? Was wondering how long before you'd chimed in!? Thanks.? > >> > >> The sources I read, giving information about Heinrich Klein's having been > >> born in Germany ... then coming?to Pennsylvania, and finally migrating to > >> North Carolina ... seemed to be reliable and authentic.? Perhaps Henry > >> "Hog" Cline is not the same person as that buried in the Old White > >> Cemetery in Lincolnton, thought to have been the father of Thomas Cline > >> b. > >> abt. 1800, who was married in Lincoln County in 1825? > >> > >> There's a Cline?surname folder in the Jonas Library at Lincolnton, (704) > >> 735-8044.? Perhaps a reference librarian ---??refgcpl@hotmail.com --- > >> could let us know tomorrow the dates for the?man named Henry > >> Cline/Heinrich Klein?buried in the Old White Cemetery in Lincolnton?? > >> Maybe other family members are buried nearby.? I've seen a printed survey > >> of that cemetery online, but have not looked for it tonight. > >> > >> Alta > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: JLLYNN@aol.com > >> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com; dlamel@sw.rr.com > >> Cc: yoderj6@charter.net > >> Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 9:00 pm > >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Alta and Debra: > >> > >> Henry "Hog" Cline was not born in Germany but what was to become Lincoln > >> County. His son John T Cline who married Elizabeth Cathey became a > >> "hatter" > >> learning the trade from his Uncle John Butts who married a sister of > >> Henry > >> Cline. > >> John T owned a shop in Lincolnton and obtained substantial assets before > >> passing 12 April 1857 leaving a Will in the Lincolnton Courthouse. John > >> was > >> only > >> 61 but the life and sanity of hatters was impacted by the use of mercury > >> to > >> construct the hats, hence "the Mad Hatter" story. A person that was > >> responsible for the Cline Association of Western North Carolina was John > >> Yoder > >> at > >> _yoderj6@charter.net_ (mailto:yoderj6@charter.net) in 2002. He most > >> likely is > >> the person that has documented much of the Cline Family. Cicero Cline > >> has > >> a > >> paper in the Newton Library piecing together some of the extensive Cline > >> Family > >> > >> with Sebastian (Bostian) Cline being the progenitor. I spent countless > >> time > >> in attempting to link the Lincolnton Clines with the Catawba County > >> Clines but > >> was not very successful. I do have lots of descendants of John T and > >> Elizabeth Cathey since they are my ancestors. The name Hog Henry stems > >> from a > >> story > >> related by Cicero Cline which I have not documented but had to do with > >> his > >> "Dutch" in using another word rather than hog. As I recall Cicero's > >> document > >> was not too successful in forming the exact families but had interesting > >> information regarding the Clines. John T Cline was well educated with > >> excellent > >> > >> penmanship. I descend from his daughter Nancy Caroline who married > >> Alfred > >> Lewis > >> > >> Hoke. These two are buried at St Luke Episcopal in Lincolnton although > >> one > >> child is buried at the Old White Church. I went through the Cline > >> Estates > >> at > >> NC Archives but information regarding Henry is lacking. I have Sebastian > >> Cline > >> with five sons and six daughters with the first born in 1738. There > >> would > >> be > >> multiple Heinrich Kleins from these five sons born before 1770. Hog > >> Henry > >> was more of an established Cline in Lincolnton and I do not suspect he > >> would > >> have had a son to migrate to Illinois. IBM migrated me to Chicago for > >> two > >> years and, although Chicago is a beautiful city, I knew I was migrating > >> back to > >> > >> North Carolina! Getting off the subject with some bull so will close. > >> Regards, > >> Jerry Lynn > >> PS: Copied John Yoder but suspect it will be returned to me. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 2/13/2008 8:00:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >> altamdurden@aol.com writes: > >> > >> > >> This information is likely to be found?in Lorena Shell Eaker's book, > >> "German-Speaking People West of the Catawba - (Years)".? I've loaned my > >> copy to > >> > >> someone; otherwise, I would look it up for you.? Also, Lorena has > >> recently > >> changed e-mail addresses and I do not have the most current one.? Perhaps > >> someone > >> on this list will kindly forward this request to Lorena. > >> > >> Alta > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Debra LaMel <dlamel@sw.rr.com> > >> To: nclincol@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 7:53 pm > >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks Robert a bunch > >> > >> Thomas Cline came from the moon! I guess! LOL > >> > >> Debra > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> > >> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:34 PM > >> Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >> > >> > >>> Debra, > >>> > >>> I am on the list. I do have some information on Henry and Elizabeth > >>> Carpenter Cline in Carpenters A Plenty. > >>> > >>> Another source would be the newly (within the last 10 years or so) > >>> Cline > >>> History. I do not have a copy of it but have some xeroxed pages from > >>> it. > >>> > >>> I will see if I have anything about the Henry Cline family. > >>> > >>> What I wrote about this family in Carpenters A Plenty was mainly from > >>> other > >>> researcher's work. I did little primary source research on this > >>> family. > >>> > >>> Robert Carpenter > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Debra LaMel" <dlamel@sw.rr.com> > >>> To: <nclincol@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:29 AM > >>> Subject: [NCLINCOL] Cline > >>> > >>> > >>>> Does anyone know if Robert C Carpenter who published Carpenter's A > >>>> Plenty > >>>> is on the mailing list or does someone have this book and does it > >>>> cover > >>>> Elizabeth Carpenter (Zimmerman) who married Henry Cline b 1765 d 1843 > >>>> and > >>>> are buried at Old White Church Cem in LC NC. > >>>> I am trying to prove that Thomas Cline who's father was named Henry > >>>> might > >>>> have been a son or grandson of Henry who married Elizabeth. > >>>> > >>>> If so how many children they had and their names! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Debra LaMel > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cobb/) > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > >> Awards. 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