On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:20 PM, nclincol-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:19:24 -0500 > From: "Brownie MacKie" <lumackie@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NCLINCOL] Find-a-Grave and Ethics in genealogy > To: nclincol@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <8b434e920803111719h21ffbafn5c106e517e87f505@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Knowing the LDS church, they will NEVER charge for this service. > > Val...don't you think that the LDS *owns *Ancestry.com and all its > subsidiaries? If not, please tell me! Thanks. > > Brownie I live not far from Salt Lake City and used to spend a week there in the library twice a year. I also have made use of the services of Ancestry. com - a membership is a lot less expensive than a trip to SLC, but not nearly so comprehensive. I find that Ancestry.com is very convenient to have here in my house now that I can no longer travel. What is expensive and what is not is a relative thing, it does cost a good deal of money to provide the service that Ancestry does, and like myself or any one else, the choice of how we want to use our money is a very private matter. It cost me a whole lot more to spend a week in SLC than have an Ancestry membership - one need not have the entire package. Yes the Family History Library is gradually getting their collection on line - and I am one of the extractors. This chore can be undertaken by anyone - they did not ask me what my religious preferences were when I signed up any more than they do at the door of the library or any of the FH Centers. I do not believe that Ancestry.com is an affiliate of the LDS Church. They do not advertise the same scope of records as one will find in the Library nor do they have the same software for sale. In fact the LDS Genealogy software can be downloaded free and Family Tree Maker offered by Ancestry.com is a bit pricy. I have always owned a MAC and so use different software. When I began I entered all info by hand on paper, software is a Godsend. We all should share our efforts with whomever needs the information, no matter how hard we worked to find it or how precious it is to us. Let us never lose sight of the fact that because someone in the past saw to it that information was preserved we are able to enrich our understanding of our ancestors. The information does not belong exclusively to us. The LDS Church, no matter if we hold with their teachings or not, has been hugely responsible for the preservation of many millions of records which they share with us freely and with great grace. Please let us not look a gift horse in the mouth, everyone works for a profit one way or another, otherwise we could not indulge ourselves by embracing this expensive little hobby. I have seldom purchased anything that has given me more entertainment or personal pleasure than this fascinating way to waste time. Sorry to be so wordy - I will shut up now and go quietly back to my corner. Agnes Cloninger
Knowing the LDS church, they will NEVER charge for this service. Val...don't you think that the LDS *owns *Ancestry.com and all its subsidiaries? If not, please tell me! Thanks. Brownie On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Val <vwilliams@juno.com> wrote: > Many of us on these genealogy lists have used the LDS Family History > Centers, so it came as good news to me that they are in the beta stages of > testing a site that will eventually have all their records on it. You can > actually use it and help test it. It's FamilySearch.org . Knowing the LDS > church, they will NEVER charge for this service. Experience in the History > Centers should testify to that. I quit Ancestry.com last year when I > heard about the LDS site. I can be patient while they get it up and > running. I think these other places which are also based in Utah > (translated--ancestry) are just trying to make their last bit of money from > those of us who seem desperate to find that one piece of information. > > Anyway, my suggestion is to continue sharing on these lists, and quit > paying for other services. Once the LDS site is up I suspect it will be as > good as or even better than Ancestry--translated rip-off. > > my two cents > val > > > -- Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> wrote: > Dear Brownie and list, > > Thanks for the kind words. I do what I can to provide information to > those who browse our "West-of-the-Catawba" pages. > The opportunities for researchers to find free genealogical > information is fast disappearing. As long as I maintain the pages > that are of help to my fellow researchers, I will endeavor to make > all web postings free and available. Many Lincoln and Gaston cemetery > pages have been restored by the efforts of those who share my > philosophy of FREE GENEALOGY. I will soon be posting the records of > the Cleveland County WPA Cemetery records on the web. > > Many folks are aware that Ann Propst and I created a CD with these > records that were originally made available to the public for a fee. > Hundreds of hours were spent in making this information available to > researchers. The only reason that a price was put on the CD was to > recoup the time and expenses incurred in creating it. Since we have > been able to break even (just barely), we are going to make the > information public, in spite of the fact that we still have a bunch > of CD's in inventory. > > I continue to solicit any and all cemetery surveys from folks who > believe as I do, that freely gathered information should be shared > with those who freely seek it. > If readers of this post have material relating to cemeteries in > Catawba, Lincoln, Burke, Gaston and Cleveland Counties that they > would be willing to post on the NCGenWeb pages, I will be happy to > credit the contributors and will offer the assurance that their > material will be copyrighted in their name and be freely available to > the public, in perpetuity, with any subscription fees. > > Thanks to all, > > Derick S. Hartshorn > former NC State Coordinator, NCGenWeb Project > current USGenWeb Project-County Coordinator > Catawba/Burke/Lincoln/Gaston/Cleveland, NC > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enccatawb/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encburke/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enclincol/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encgaston/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encclevel/> > > > > > At 03:50 PM 3/9/2008, you wrote: > > Dear All: > > > >*Derick Hartshorne said: Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a > good > >deal of information > >from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have > >made to make information available. * > > > >Find-a-Grave is a wonderful source; I have contributed as well, because I > >have found long lost ancestors' burial places there; however, I > recently > >was perusing FOOTNOTES.COM as a "free" member to try it out. I ran > across a > >statement where Footnotes.com will be acquiring Find-a-Grave. I decided > to > >go into deep denial, because Footnotes is initially free for limited > >research but is charging for full membership. Footnotes.com is based in > >Utah. All the good free sites are diminishing rapidly, and they're all > going > >to Utah. Must be the climate. ? I think we've all been "had." I stay > >totally confused regarding copyright laws for material that should be in > the > >public domain and available for everyone's perusal regardless of who has > >it. And I become totally irritated when I go to a "free" site, search, > and > >the answer to my query is embedded in a paid site, where I'm denied > access > >unless I join and pay for a years' membership. Happened just this > morning. > >It's a total waste of my time and energy. I don't mind paying for > postage > >and copying ever...nor paying for someone's time spent on help, but > having > >to pay to get into a site to simply view information that is over a > hundred > >years old is ludicrous. > > > > > >Brownie MacKie > >Total Skeptic and proud of it > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click for FHA loan, $0 lender fees, low rates & approvals nationwide > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mItjUqTdO2zzT7jjjvzWxkY5O7nKvHPd4FdF3usCOJMjhsi/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ceejoy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4023/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Was there ever a Park*** Drumley store in Lincoln County? I have an old photo of a toddler standing on what appears to be a sign from a store. Several of the letters in Park are missing and I'm guessing at the P. Drumley appears to be part of the name. I'm trying to identify the time period so that I can narrow down the possibilities of who the child might be. Thanks for the help. Cynthia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
My message read: >If readers of this post have material relating to cemeteries in >Catawba, Lincoln, Burke, Gaston and Cleveland Counties that they >would be willing to post on the NCGenWeb pages, I will be happy to >credit the contributors and will offer the assurance that their >material will be copyrighted in their name and be freely available to >the public, in perpetuity, with any subscription fees. That should have read: WITHOUT an any subscription fees. Sorry for the error. --Derick
Dear Brownie and list, Thanks for the kind words. I do what I can to provide information to those who browse our "West-of-the-Catawba" pages. The opportunities for researchers to find free genealogical information is fast disappearing. As long as I maintain the pages that are of help to my fellow researchers, I will endeavor to make all web postings free and available. Many Lincoln and Gaston cemetery pages have been restored by the efforts of those who share my philosophy of FREE GENEALOGY. I will soon be posting the records of the Cleveland County WPA Cemetery records on the web. Many folks are aware that Ann Propst and I created a CD with these records that were originally made available to the public for a fee. Hundreds of hours were spent in making this information available to researchers. The only reason that a price was put on the CD was to recoup the time and expenses incurred in creating it. Since we have been able to break even (just barely), we are going to make the information public, in spite of the fact that we still have a bunch of CD's in inventory. I continue to solicit any and all cemetery surveys from folks who believe as I do, that freely gathered information should be shared with those who freely seek it. If readers of this post have material relating to cemeteries in Catawba, Lincoln, Burke, Gaston and Cleveland Counties that they would be willing to post on the NCGenWeb pages, I will be happy to credit the contributors and will offer the assurance that their material will be copyrighted in their name and be freely available to the public, in perpetuity, with any subscription fees. Thanks to all, Derick S. Hartshorn former NC State Coordinator, NCGenWeb Project current USGenWeb Project-County Coordinator Catawba/Burke/Lincoln/Gaston/Cleveland, NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/ At 03:50 PM 3/9/2008, you wrote: > Dear All: > >*Derick Hartshorne said: Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a good >deal of information >from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have >made to make information available. * > >Find-a-Grave is a wonderful source; I have contributed as well, because I >have found long lost ancestors' burial places there; however, I recently >was perusing FOOTNOTES.COM as a "free" member to try it out. I ran across a >statement where Footnotes.com will be acquiring Find-a-Grave. I decided to >go into deep denial, because Footnotes is initially free for limited >research but is charging for full membership. Footnotes.com is based in >Utah. All the good free sites are diminishing rapidly, and they're all going >to Utah. Must be the climate. ? I think we've all been "had." I stay >totally confused regarding copyright laws for material that should be in the >public domain and available for everyone's perusal regardless of who has >it. And I become totally irritated when I go to a "free" site, search, and >the answer to my query is embedded in a paid site, where I'm denied access >unless I join and pay for a years' membership. Happened just this morning. >It's a total waste of my time and energy. I don't mind paying for postage >and copying ever...nor paying for someone's time spent on help, but having >to pay to get into a site to simply view information that is over a hundred >years old is ludicrous. > > >Brownie MacKie >Total Skeptic and proud of it
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WileyJarrell72 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4015.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please, please try again. Wiley Alston Jarrell 15610 Edenvale Friendswood Tx, 77546 wajarrell@earthlink.net 281-482-3671 <>< Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoyChadwick27 Surnames: Bast,Bost,Chadwick,Goodhart,Seitz. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4022/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi all, Looking for anyone with a Goodhart/Goodheart/Goodhartd connection from Lincoln/Catawba Co NC who married a William Bast/Bost, Did the Goodhart line from NC have Native American linage. Thanks very much. Roy Chadwick. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Actually, in the colonies both Male and female children were bound out, especially in the case of when a father died, the mother sometimes being able to take care of the children, so they were often bound out,,in the colonies this happened often with settlement indians, mixed=bloods, and Mulatto's.... Jeff Beard --- Robert Carpenter <rcarpenter2@charter.net> wrote: > Ray, > > Many children were apprenticed to learn a trade. > Some of these children > were orphans, some were not. Some were poor and > some were not necessarily > poor. With Germans there was a strong custom for > all children to learn a > trade so that they would be self sufficient. An > apprentice bond was a legal > binding document creating the apprentice > relationship which specified what > each party would do and would receive. I suspect > that many of these > documents have not survived. I also suspect that > many children were > apprenticed without the issuance of a bond. > > I do not know if there were any laws regulating how > old or how young an > apprentice would be. I have seen youngsters as > young as 13 and as old as 18 > being apprenticed. > > There was a major difference between guardians of > minor heirs and > apprentices. Minor children who had guardians may > or may not have lived > with them. Usually there was no apprentice > relationship with guardians of > young children. > > I hope this helps the discussion, > > Robert Carpenter > > PS Lorena, good to hear from you! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RaySmith" <rsmith2092@carolina.rr.com> > To: "Genealogy, Lincoln Co NC" > <NCLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:31 PM > Subject: [NCLINCOL] Usual age for male children to > be bound Out? > > > > Is there a usual or customary age for male > children to be bound out? > > The time period is 1759-61. > > Males are bound out, guardians are usually > appointed for female > > children are they not? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Dear All: *Derick Hartshorne said: Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a good deal of information from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have made to make information available. * Find-a-Grave is a wonderful source; I have contributed as well, because I have found long lost ancestors' burial places there; however, I recently was perusing FOOTNOTES.COM as a "free" member to try it out. I ran across a statement where Footnotes.com will be acquiring Find-a-Grave. I decided to go into deep denial, because Footnotes is initially free for limited research but is charging for full membership. Footnotes.com is based in Utah. All the good free sites are diminishing rapidly, and they're all going to Utah. Must be the climate. ? I think we've all been "had." I stay totally confused regarding copyright laws for material that should be in the public domain and available for everyone's perusal regardless of who has it. And I become totally irritated when I go to a "free" site, search, and the answer to my query is embedded in a paid site, where I'm denied access unless I join and pay for a years' membership. Happened just this morning. It's a total waste of my time and energy. I don't mind paying for postage and copying ever...nor paying for someone's time spent on help, but having to pay to get into a site to simply view information that is over a hundred years old is ludicrous. Brownie MacKie Total Skeptic and proud of it
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Littlebugbandy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4015.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I tried to email you using the link at the bottom and it keeps coming back as returned not delived. I will try again later to see if works or not. I know this family personally. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Dear Derick and All: Derick said: Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a good deal of information from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have made to make information available. Find-a-Grave is wonderful; however, I recently was perusing FOOTNOTES.COM as a "free" member to try it out. I ran across a statement somewhere where Footnotes.com will be acquiring Find-a-Grave. I decided to go into deep denial, because Footnotes is only initially free for a short period of time and is charging for membership. Footnotes.com is based in Utah. All the good free sites are diminishing rapidly, and they're all going to Utah. Must be the climate. ? I think we've all been "had." I stay totally confused regarding copyright laws for material that should be in the public domain and available for everyone's perusal regardless of who has it. And I remain totally angry when I go to a "free" site, search, and the answer to my query is embedded in a paid site, where I'm denied access unless I join. It's a total waste of my time and energy. I don't mind paying for postage and copying ever...nor paying for someone's time spent on help, but having to pay to get into a site to even see the information is ludicrous. Brownie MacKie Total Skeptic and proud of it In a message dated 3/8/2008 12:38:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, DerickH@ch arter.net writes: Dear James, I can immediately see that we are on the same page. Among my other genealogical pursuits, cemeteries and the recognition of the last resting places of Confederate soldiers takes an important part in my endeavors. I have tried to place cemetery inventories of the sites I have surveyed, and those that others have provided, in an appropriate place on the web. My philosophy seems to be the same as yours. During my 35 or so years of research, and providing assistance to others, I have never charged for my services. With the exception of a time when I had to drive to the archives in Raleigh and charged my client for actual expenses, I have always believed that "spreading my bread upon the waters" would repay me ten-fold. This has been my conviction and my experience. Bill Floyd and I worked together for some time in bringing his work to fruition on the web. In fact, I erected a page to Bill, using material from "Our State" magazine: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/WDFloyd.htm. It really came as a disappointment when Bill pulled the rug from under my feet, so to speak. I was left with some of the pages I administer (Lincoln, Gaston and Cleveland) without the cemetery listings that many researchers had relied on. I can understand Bill's concern that Internet data might be subject to use by for-profit entities. However, I have contented myself with the fact that Roots Web and the USGenWeb Project and contributors and their associates (which includes ME!) are adequately protected by existing copyright laws. What I didn't understand was the fact that Bill took material down that was not his original creation. I refer to the work done by Jan Heavner, Terry Waldrop and others. Terry offered allowed me to use his work on the web. Jan Heavner sent me copies of the survey work she had done and it has been restored to the Gaston and Lincoln pages. There are other folks who I will include in a request for similar data. Currently, I have restored many of the cemetery records that formerly existed on the pages I administer. They include: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/cemeteries.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/cemeteries.htm Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a good deal of information from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have made to make information available. However, for the purpose of individuals seeking basic vital information, there is no substitute for a simple text-oriented cemetery inventory. Both Catawba and Burke county cemetery records have been published by their respective genealogical societies, therefore I am limited what I can post relating to data that is copyrighted. I created an index for the burials in Catawba County that was never published (or copyrighted) which I have posted: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/cemetery.htm . I also created an original index for the Burke County G.S. which IS copyrighted, and is therefore not on the web. I became involved with Internet genealogy when I first created what I believe was the first county genealogical web site in the U.S.A , when I made my findings available as the "Catawba County, N.C. Genealogy" website, in 1995. Six months later, the USGenWeb Project was founded and I became one of the first county members. The rest is history. I commend you for your desire to share your information. In the remaining time the Lord has allotted me, I will continue to post whatever information that I feel will benefit those seeking it. I am copying this message to the list and to those whom I humbly solicit contributions of historic and genealogical information, that it may benefit those who would otherwise never have access without paying a fee, a subscription or purchasing a book or CD. Thank you James, and others, for your desire to retain the concept of FREE GENEALOGY. You have an advocate in me. I will do whatever is necessary to maintain this philosophy. Derick S. Hartshorn USGenWeb Project-County Coordinator Catawba/Burke/Lincoln/Gaston/Cleveland, NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/ > Derick, > >I have just finished entering the entire listing of Bethel UMC >Cemetery Denver, Lincoln County, NC. originally complied by Terry >Waldrop and his wife on June 3, 1990 as active members of the >Gaston-Lincoln Genealogical Society to Find-A-Grave. > >It can be accessed at: ><http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1980706&CScnty=1705&>h ttp://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1980706&CScnty=1705& > >I entered a total of 554 names; the original listing and many names >that I discovered during the process. > > >As you well know, in January 2007 I presented a transcript of this >listing to Bill Floyd with Terry Waldrop's permission to post on his website. >About the same time, you posted the listing to: ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/cemeteries.htm>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nc lincol/cemeteries.htm > >In June 2007 Floyd took his website down and presented his works to >the Gaston-Lincoln Genealogical Society which is now selling his >cemetery information as a set of CDs. > > At the time all of this was occuring, I was given a choice by > Mr. Floyd to redeem the data or allow him to > include it in his records. Then, I could think of no other > means to disseminate the information to the number > of people I had hoped to reach, so I allowed him to retain the > listing; thinking it best. > > Later I considered that since it was also posted on your > website, I could have approached you and asked > that it be maintained there. In hindsight, I wish I had, maybe > it would still be online and free. > > It was, is and always has been my intent and puropose that the > work I did would be available to anyone and everyone who has an > interest in and desire to access this information. I had hoped > that it would be available free of charge online in some form or > fashion indefinately. I was very disappointed when it was removed. > The listing was freely given to me in a random act of genealogical > kindness and it has always been my desire to share it. Many of my > ancestors from many branches of my family are buried at Bethel. > > I have no interest in involving you or anyone else in a > question of copyright. Like they say, I don't have a dog in that > fight. But I still wanted very much to make the Bethel listing > freely available to the general public. > > Therefore, I have once again poured over the names and dates > and put them where I hope is a safe place, where anyone and > everyone with an interest can come see for themselves the > information contained. > I have embellished the records with information from my own > files and have included parentage, marriages and children where I > had that information. I sincerely hope that it will be put to good use. > > The good Lord willing, the creek don't rise, and Find-A-Grave > doesn't get blown off the internet; the information I have entered > there will remain indefinetly, free for everyone's use. > > > I sincerely appreciate your continued personal efforts in what > you are doing to make information easily accessable online and > assist genealogy researchers in obtaining information regarding > their Piedmont North Carolina relatives and ancestors. > > > I will subsequently post a message to the Lincoln, Catawba, > Gaston and Iredell county message boards announcing the > availability of these records. > > > > Again, Thanks for all that you do. > > > > > > >---------- > > >[] > > Good Luck with Yer Diggin' > > James M. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Littlebugbandy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/476.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the 1880 Census Catawba, NC Mt. Creek under the name of Osborn Asbury list the names of Osborn Asbury 45 Louisa 40 Ida 18 Emma 17 Mary 14 Jane 7 John 5 Anna 1 _______________________________________ HENRY ASBURY, son of Daniel Asbury, the pioneer Meth- odist preacher, was born in Lincoln County, May 29, 1799. Daniel Asbury, the pioneer Methodist preacher west of the Catawba River, was born in Fairfax, VA., Feb.18,1762. On Sunday, April 15, 1825, at his home in Lincoln County, he died suddenly and his body was buried in the graveyard of Rehoboth church, in the present County of Catawba, nearby the Lincolnton and Mooresville Highway. " The Annals of Lincoln County" Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jhcline_1 Surnames: Tucker, Kids, Whitener Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4021/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I will be in NC soon and researching family of William TUCKER, b. abt 1830, and married to Nancy KIDS - farming in Lincoln, Co. Any "head starts" would be appreciated. He stated that his father was born in Virginia. Is he related to Daniel Tucker (b.1792) also of Lincoln Co.? William and Nancy's children were Clay,Mary,Julia, and Dora. William is my gg grandfather through Julia who married Socrates Alonzo "Lon" Whitener. Our family branch has the Revolutionary War rifle from the Tucker family passed on by William. But obviously used in the war by his grandfather in (presumably) Virginia. Family stories have it that William Tucker's family once moved farther west (before coming to NC? with his father?)I think it was Missouri or Alabama. Thanks, Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JamieThompsonAL Surnames: Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.lincoln/4020/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bethel UMC Cemetery-Denver, Lincoln County, NC. I have just finished entering the entire listing of Bethel UMC Cemetery Denver, Lincoln County, NC. originally complied by Terry Waldrop and his wife as members of the Gaston-Lincoln Genealogical Society on June 3, 1990, to Find-A-Grave. It can be accessed at: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1980706&CScnty=1705& I entered a total of 554 names; the original listing and many names discovered during the process. It was, is and always has been my intent and puropose that the work I did would be available to anyone and everyone who has an interest in and desire to access this information. I had hoped that it would be available free of charge online in some form or fashion indefinately. I was very disappointed when it was removed. The listing was freely given to me in a random act of genealogical kindness and it has always been my desire to share it. Many of my ancestors from many branches of my family are buried at Bethel. Therefore, I have once again poured over the names and dates and put them where I hope is a safe place, where anyone and everyone with an interest can come see for themselves the information contained. I have embellished the records with information from my own files and have included parentage, marriages and children where I had that information. I sincerely hope that it will be put to good use. The good Lord willing, the creek don't rise, and Find-A-Grave doesn't get blown off the internet; the information I have entered there will remain indefinetly, free for everyone's use. Good Luck with yer Diggin' Jamie Thompson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Dear James, I can immediately see that we are on the same page. Among my other genealogical pursuits, cemeteries and the recognition of the last resting places of Confederate soldiers takes an important part in my endeavors. I have tried to place cemetery inventories of the sites I have surveyed, and those that others have provided, in an appropriate place on the web. My philosophy seems to be the same as yours. During my 35 or so years of research, and providing assistance to others, I have never charged for my services. With the exception of a time when I had to drive to the archives in Raleigh and charged my client for actual expenses, I have always believed that "spreading my bread upon the waters" would repay me ten-fold. This has been my conviction and my experience. Bill Floyd and I worked together for some time in bringing his work to fruition on the web. In fact, I erected a page to Bill, using material from "Our State" magazine: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/WDFloyd.htm. It really came as a disappointment when Bill pulled the rug from under my feet, so to speak. I was left with some of the pages I administer (Lincoln, Gaston and Cleveland) without the cemetery listings that many researchers had relied on. I can understand Bill's concern that Internet data might be subject to use by for-profit entities. However, I have contented myself with the fact that Roots Web and the USGenWeb Project and contributors and their associates (which includes ME!) are adequately protected by existing copyright laws. What I didn't understand was the fact that Bill took material down that was not his original creation. I refer to the work done by Jan Heavner, Terry Waldrop and others. Terry offered allowed me to use his work on the web. Jan Heavner sent me copies of the survey work she had done and it has been restored to the Gaston and Lincoln pages. There are other folks who I will include in a request for similar data. Currently, I have restored many of the cemetery records that formerly existed on the pages I administer. They include: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/cemeteries.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/cemeteries.htm Regarding Find-a-Grave, I have contributed a good deal of information from my own research to them and I appreciate the efforts they have made to make information available. However, for the purpose of individuals seeking basic vital information, there is no substitute for a simple text-oriented cemetery inventory. Both Catawba and Burke county cemetery records have been published by their respective genealogical societies, therefore I am limited what I can post relating to data that is copyrighted. I created an index for the burials in Catawba County that was never published (or copyrighted) which I have posted: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/cemetery.htm . I also created an original index for the Burke County G.S. which IS copyrighted, and is therefore not on the web. I became involved with Internet genealogy when I first created what I believe was the first county genealogical web site in the U.S.A , when I made my findings available as the "Catawba County, N.C. Genealogy" website, in 1995. Six months later, the USGenWeb Project was founded and I became one of the first county members. The rest is history. I commend you for your desire to share your information. In the remaining time the Lord has allotted me, I will continue to post whatever information that I feel will benefit those seeking it. I am copying this message to the list and to those whom I humbly solicit contributions of historic and genealogical information, that it may benefit those who would otherwise never have access without paying a fee, a subscription or purchasing a book or CD. Thank you James, and others, for your desire to retain the concept of FREE GENEALOGY. You have an advocate in me. I will do whatever is necessary to maintain this philosophy. Derick S. Hartshorn USGenWeb Project-County Coordinator Catawba/Burke/Lincoln/Gaston/Cleveland, NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgaston/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/ > Derick, > >I have just finished entering the entire listing of Bethel UMC >Cemetery Denver, Lincoln County, NC. originally complied by Terry >Waldrop and his wife on June 3, 1990 as active members of the >Gaston-Lincoln Genealogical Society to Find-A-Grave. > >It can be accessed at: ><http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1980706&CScnty=1705&>http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1980706&CScnty=1705& > >I entered a total of 554 names; the original listing and many names >that I discovered during the process. > > >As you well know, in January 2007 I presented a transcript of this >listing to Bill Floyd with Terry Waldrop's permission to post on his website. >About the same time, you posted the listing to: ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/cemeteries.htm>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/cemeteries.htm > >In June 2007 Floyd took his website down and presented his works to >the Gaston-Lincoln Genealogical Society which is now selling his >cemetery information as a set of CDs. > > At the time all of this was occuring, I was given a choice by > Mr. Floyd to redeem the data or allow him to > include it in his records. Then, I could think of no other > means to disseminate the information to the number > of people I had hoped to reach, so I allowed him to retain the > listing; thinking it best. > > Later I considered that since it was also posted on your > website, I could have approached you and asked > that it be maintained there. In hindsight, I wish I had, maybe > it would still be online and free. > > It was, is and always has been my intent and puropose that the > work I did would be available to anyone and everyone who has an > interest in and desire to access this information. I had hoped > that it would be available free of charge online in some form or > fashion indefinately. I was very disappointed when it was removed. > The listing was freely given to me in a random act of genealogical > kindness and it has always been my desire to share it. Many of my > ancestors from many branches of my family are buried at Bethel. > > I have no interest in involving you or anyone else in a > question of copyright. Like they say, I don't have a dog in that > fight. But I still wanted very much to make the Bethel listing > freely available to the general public. > > Therefore, I have once again poured over the names and dates > and put them where I hope is a safe place, where anyone and > everyone with an interest can come see for themselves the > information contained. > I have embellished the records with information from my own > files and have included parentage, marriages and children where I > had that information. I sincerely hope that it will be put to good use. > > The good Lord willing, the creek don't rise, and Find-A-Grave > doesn't get blown off the internet; the information I have entered > there will remain indefinetly, free for everyone's use. > > > I sincerely appreciate your continued personal efforts in what > you are doing to make information easily accessable online and > assist genealogy researchers in obtaining information regarding > their Piedmont North Carolina relatives and ancestors. > > > I will subsequently post a message to the Lincoln, Catawba, > Gaston and Iredell county message boards announcing the > availability of these records. > > > > Again, Thanks for all that you do. > > > > > > >---------- > > >[] > > Good Luck with Yer Diggin' > > James M. 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Ray, if it is not there, I am sure that Noma and Rev. Monte Wike - their current e-mail address: Noma Wike [nomawike@sbcglobal.net] would probably be glad to help you. Ann K. Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nclincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RaySmith Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM To: Genealogy Lincoln Co NC Subject: [NCLINCOL] The Wike Family Descendants of Jacob M. Weik of North Carolina by Monte Wike Can someone tell me if the above book is available in the history room at the the Lincolnton Library? Thank You. Ray
>>Can someone tell me if the above book is available in the history room at the the Lincolnton Library?<< Don't know about that, but last time I was in the Catawba County Museum in Newton, NC, they had copies of that book for sale. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
Can someone tell me if the above book is available in the history room at the the Lincolnton Library? Thank You. Ray
If you are trying to send an attachment, it will not go through. Attachments are not allowed through rootsweb if i remember right. send a link or at least some words in the body to let us know what is coming through... thanks for trying though Johnny L Lowery 903-631-5678 cell 877-494-9105 fax LOWERY & Related Spelling DNA Project Administrator _http://www.familytreedna.com/(gbdmr1ffuwxztp45mlrwor2i)/public/LOWERYandRelat edSpellingsDNAProject/index.aspx_ (http://www.familytreedna.com/(gbdmr1ffuwxztp45mlrwor2i)/public/LOWERYandRelatedSpellingsDNAProject/index.aspx) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)