Owen Murphy, Will dated December 1775 - Lincoln Co., NC ......... he mentions "one shilling of Old England" .........would that indicate his origin?

Cindy, Not boring me at all. I want to absorb all the history and information I can. I hope to make it to Lincoln County sometime this coming Spring. So much of my Murphy history is there. I'm praying I can find it. Crystal Murphy

You are probably correct, Ulster's role in so many fleeing here is explained in a book called, "To Ulster's Credit" by Sam Allen. But then Dr. W. F. Marshall may have said it best in the title of his book, " Ulster Sails West" King James was a huge factor is so many leaving, apparently he not only was unkind to Protestants but he thought himself just as important as Jesus. Andrew Melville once said, " No earthly King is a lord or head of the Church of Scotland. There is King James, head of the commonwealth, and there is Christ. Jesus, the King of the Church, whose subject James the sixth is, and of whose kingdom, James the sixth is but a MEMBER." For this Andrew spent many years in the Tower of London. I hope I didn't bore anyone, I just think it's interesting to know why so many of our ancestors came here. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: [NCLINCOLN] Re: Calling ALL MURPHYs > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/2392.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Am not positive but sure enough to bet the farm that the Murphy's came from Northern Ireland, probably from the Ulster Plantations, as did so many of the other Irish families in and arround Lincoln county. I have only a few bits of Murphy information but have not pursued this family much since they are not a direct line for me. > > If they followed the path that most Scots-Irish did they would have been Presbyterian by faith. I say Scots-Irish because many of those who settled on the Ulster Plantations of Northern Ireland had originally been living in Scotland and were removed to Irelant to start the flax plantations. If you want more detail I can give you some citations. > > > ==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== > ==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== > Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC > For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page >

Yes please, I would love more detail. Thanks so much. My great-great grandfather, John Murphy, was a Methodist Minister. He had a son, John, by his first marriage to Hannah McNamare(a) who was a Baptist Minister. I would love any info you have. Many, many thanks, Crystal Murphy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/2392.1 Message Board Post: Am not positive but sure enough to bet the farm that the Murphy's came from Northern Ireland, probably from the Ulster Plantations, as did so many of the other Irish families in and arround Lincoln county. I have only a few bits of Murphy information but have not pursued this family much since they are not a direct line for me. If they followed the path that most Scots-Irish did they would have been Presbyterian by faith. I say Scots-Irish because many of those who settled on the Ulster Plantations of Northern Ireland had originally been living in Scotland and were removed to Irelant to start the flax plantations. If you want more detail I can give you some citations.

Here is a link for the Lincoln Co. newspapers known to be available. This is from the NC Newspaper Project, at the state archives and state library. I do not see any for the years that you are seeking. You might check other surrounding counties. http://statelibrary.dcr.state.nc.us/ncnp/linco.htm#Lincolnton The link for the NC Newspaper Project with links for all counties is as follows: http://statelibrary.dcr.state.nc.us/ncnp/counties.htm You probably have this info which would be found in NC Troops: Holden Stogner, resident of Gaston Co., occupation engineer, enlisted as a private 3/15/1862, and into Co. K, 49th NC infantry at the age of 38 on 4/21/1862. Died of wounds at Sharpsburg, MD, 9/17/1862. You probably can find out other info by looking at his confederate papers on microfilm. These are at the state archives in NC as well as other libraries in NC. Hope this helps! Lynn Wesson Chapel Hill, NC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 6:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCLINCOLN] Lincoln County Newspaper for year 1862 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stogner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iVB.2ACI/2391 Message Board Post: Does anyone know if there is a microfilm record at any Lincoln County library that would have copies of papers dated from September through October 1862. I am looking for a copy of Casualties among North-Carolinians for General Ransom's Brigade. I am especially interested in a Holden Stogner, who died at Sharpsburg, Sept 17, 1862. He lived in Gaston County but enlisted in Lincoln County. I found him in the Raleigh paper dated October 22, 1862; but they misspelled his name. He was listed as a casualty for the 49th, Co. K but spelled his name as Strangner. Thank you Kathy Hall ==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== ==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MURPHY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/2392 Message Board Post: Calling all Murphys by blood & marriage . . . any information on any Murphys from Lincoln Co., NC is greaty appreciated! Especially interested in when they arrived in NC, or even to America, and where they came here from. Crystal Murphy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MURPHY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/2129.1 Message Board Post: Gerald, John Murphy & Hannah McNamare(a) did indeed marry in Lincoln Co., NC - October 6, 1786. I am in the process of sending for this record, however, it has shown up in several of my searches. This John Murphy is my great-great grandfather - I am from his marriage to Lucy Hughes. I too am seeking any information on this John Murphy, his family, etc - as well as the other Murphys in Lincoln Co. Owen Murphy, Will dated December 1775, mentions wife Abigail, sons James & William, and grandson John. I am very intense on locating these Murphys, as I do wonder if this John, grandson of Owen, is the same John who married Hannah McNamare. I am considering a trip to Lincoln Co. in the Spring. Crystal Murphy Carrollton, Kentucky

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stogner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iVB.2ACI/2391 Message Board Post: Does anyone know if there is a microfilm record at any Lincoln County library that would have copies of papers dated from September through October 1862. I am looking for a copy of Casualties among North-Carolinians for General Ransom's Brigade. I am especially interested in a Holden Stogner, who died at Sharpsburg, Sept 17, 1862. He lived in Gaston County but enlisted in Lincoln County. I found him in the Raleigh paper dated October 22, 1862; but they misspelled his name. He was listed as a casualty for the 49th, Co. K but spelled his name as Strangner. Thank you Kathy Hall

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iVB.2ACI/384.1194.1257.1251.1263.1271.1.1 Message Board Post: I am Windell Graham responding to the message you sent to my wife Martha Graham. we are doing research on Grahams.James R Graham is one of many we are looking for. We have a line from James Graham of South Carolina by way of Pa, and by way of ireland. the line we have goes 14 generations,but cannot get the branches of that line.we would like any other info that you may have. We feel that there is a lot of the Grahams in N.C.that we may be kin to.Ttraci i sure would llike to hear from you on this.you have my email,please send me your email me at [email protected] forward to hearing from you. thanks windell w.graham

The following sites have an adjunct Web site which will provide information on how to provide help to our troops in Harm's Way. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawm/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/military.htm http://www.catawbascv.org/index.htm --Derick

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/1479.1.1 Message Board Post: Roy, please contact me personally at [email protected] We probably have information on the Dobson family to exchange. I descend from Capt. John to his son John Jr. Ann

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/1479.1 Message Board Post: I believe the name was Nancy who was his sister and Wallace Alexander who was a state Senator and his his brother was a Governor os NC

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/38.1 Message Board Post: Married Catherin Killian Had 2 children John and Nancy.

In a message dated 11/29/2004 8:59:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Oops. There is a problem here: " Vardry McBee was born about 1735 in Halifax, Co., Virginia. He married Hannah Echols in Virginia, moved to North Carolina and was Constable in Tryon (now Mecklenburg) Co., N.C. in 1770. " Tryon County was formed from Mecklenburg County in 1769. None of Tryon County is "now" Mecklenburg County. Kathy Sullivan Hi, I've been following the McBee discussion and thought I would write and try to help. My cousin is Danny McBee of Gaston Cty, NC, and has done a lot of research, he may be able to help with the McBee's. Email me and I'll give you his email address. I can't promise he'll help or have the answers but it doesn't hurt to ask. Melanie Oates Malone Researching: WOLF, WOLFE, BAILEY, DEDMON, DEADMAN, MCENTIRE, MCINTIRE, LEE, BRIDGES, GRIGG, FORTUNE, SUTTLE, BAXTER, CROWDER, CONDREY, HOLLAND, SUMMEY, OATES, WILLIAMS, ROUSE AND A FEW OTHERS

Oops. There is a problem here: " Vardry McBee was born about 1735 in Halifax, Co., Virginia. He married Hannah Echols in Virginia, moved to North Carolina and was Constable in Tryon (now Mecklenburg) Co., N.C. in 1770. " Tryon County was formed from Mecklenburg County in 1769. None of Tryon County is "now" Mecklenburg County. Kathy Sullivan > Vardry McBee and the McBee Family [Snipped] > Vardry McBee was born about 1735 in Halifax, Co., Virginia. He married > Hannah Echols in Virginia, moved to North Carolina and was Constable > in Tryon (now Mecklenburg) Co., N.C. in 1770. > [Manuscript by Carrie Lee (Shrum) McBee, 1944, courtesy of Bill Holder > of Climax Springs, MO; Northern Neck Land Grants, Book A 1722-1726] > Derick S. Hartshorn, III > 1204 4th Street Drive, SE > Conover, North Carolina 28613-1827 > [submitted to Heritage of Lincoln County (NC) , 1997, article #450]

I am searching for the parents of my great-great grandparents. Henry Robinson was born 1812 and died about 1883. He lived in Burke County, NC. He married Malinda Leonard in 1833 in Lincoln County, NC. They had ten children. Does anyone have these folks in their line? Thanks, Linda

Sorry that should have been David not Davis and I left the r off the end of Ramsour, can't spell tonight .

I have John ( Little John ) Ramsaur as his father, who was born Dec 5, 1791 and married Susannah Summy as his mother, I also have children Elisha J. Ramsaur born Aug 9, 1817 , and Max Ramsaur born 1823. And Vardrey McBee born Feb 18, 1821. Is any or all of this correct? Then if this is correct is there another son Jacob Hunter Ramsour born 1815. I have just contacted Bill Ramsaur again to help me straighten out my mess. He is off this line. Now he had the line coming off of Dietrich, Davis, John Ramsour Sr., John Ramsour Jr. But I have him coming off of Dietrich, Jakob, John ( Captain Gentleman) Ramsour, to John ( Little John) Ramsaur who married Susannah Summy. I couldn't get the dates to even come close the other way. Unless I have a John mixed up somewhere. With all these Johns anything is possible. Are there more siblings to Vardry McBee than the three I have above? HELP, Help Help, confused in Washington

At 05:11 PM 11/29/2004, [email protected] wrote: >Ann and All, > >The name is Vardry McBee. From years of working in Lincoln County original >records, I am familiar with his handwriting. Also, I seem to recall an >article about him that Derick Hartshorn compiled. Maybe Derick will remind >us of when/where that was printed. > >Kathy Sullivan My pleasure:: Vardry McBee and the McBee Family The McBee family, originally spelled 'Magbee', originated in Scotland, going first to Northern Ireland for several generations before coming to America. William MacBee was born on 22 Oct 1704 in Prince George's County Md. He settled in Halifax County, Virginia about 1740 and married Susannah Vardry who was born about 1710. They had the following children: Robert Walters, Samuel, Elizabeth, Howard, Joannah, Mary Ann, Austin, Vardry, James and Mathias, all born between 1730 and 1740. Vardry McBee was born about 1735 in Halifax, Co., Virginia. He married Hannah Echols in Virginia, moved to North Carolina and was Constable in Tryon (now Mecklenburg) Co., N.C. in 1770. They settled in Spartanburg District, S.C., and belonged to the Society of Friends (Quakers), but renounced this faith when the Revolution began. Vardry became a captain of the militia. After the fall of Charleston, Capt. McBee joined the "Over the Mountain Men" in N.C. and captured a Tory fort three miles from his home. The battle of Cowpens, and the battle of Cedar Springs were fought within a few miles of his home. At one time he owned property in Limestone Springs, S.C. but lost that property after the Revolution. They moved to Sumner County, Tennessee where he died 1787. His wife, Hannah McBee moved to Kentucky with her son Silas. There is a land grant to her of 200 acres in Christian County, Kentucky, dated October 8th, 1799. They had the following children: William, Silas Leroy, Gannon(?) C., Vardry Echols, Lemuel, and two daughters; one who married Joseph Morris and one who married the brother of General Elijah Clarke. Vardry Echols McBee was born on 18 Jun 1775 in Spartanburg District, S.C. He moved to Sumner County, Tennessee with his family after the Revolution; then to Kentucky; in 1794. He went to Lincoln County, North Carolina, to learn the saddle business under his brother-in-law, Joseph Morris. While there he was married in 1804 to Jane Alexander, daughter of Col. Elias Alexander of Rutherford County. Vardry McBee was elected Clerk of Court of Lincoln County in 1815, an office he held for twenty one years; during which time his signature appeared on thousands of documents. In 1815 he bought several thousand acres in and around the present town of Greenville, South Carolina and in 1817 built a flour mill on his land; later erecting a paper mill, cotton and woolen factories. He returned to Greenville in 1836 and, in a remarkable expression of charity, donated sites to almost every church in the city. He died in Greenville, South Carolina, 23 January 1864; his wife died there March 13th, of the same year. Anyone visiting the city of Greenville can't help but notice McBee Avenue and Vardry Street, Named in honor of him. Close by Greenville is the town of McBee which is also named for this extraordinary gentleman. [Manuscript by Carrie Lee (Shrum) McBee, 1944, courtesy of Bill Holder of Climax Springs, MO; Northern Neck Land Grants, Book A 1722-1726] Derick S. Hartshorn, III 1204 4th Street Drive, SE Conover, North Carolina 28613-1827 [submitted to Heritage of Lincoln County (NC) , 1997, article #450] >Ann K Propst wrote: > >>Eldon-- >> >>I've seen this as Vardry, Vardery, Vandery as well as Vandry. In >>transcribing old handwriting, Rs could very well appear as Ns. There >>are those who are much more knowledgeable than I; jump right in, folks, >>as I would like to know about this too. >> >>Ann Propst, Brevard, NC >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: eedgin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 29, >>2004 10:13 AM >>To: Ann K Propst; [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NCLINCOLN] Re: HELP Very Confused on my Ramsaur Family >>Line >> >>Do you know where the names Vandry McBee came from? Vandry McBee was >>the >>county clerk of Lincoln County about the time of the War of 1812. He >>signed >>my 2nd great grandfather's marriage bond. >> >>Eldon J. Edgin >>14908 Woodbriar Drive >>Dallas, Texas 75248-4551 >>Phone: (972) 991-4891 FAX: (972) 991-4893 >>e-mail: [email protected] >>______________________________________________ >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann K Propst" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:35 PM >>Subject: RE: [NCLINCOLN] Re: HELP Very Confused on my Ramsaur Family >>Line >> >> >> >> >>>Mimi & Carol-- >>> >>>Descendants of Vardrey McBee Ramsaur-- >>> >>>Generation No. 1 >>> >>>1. VARDREY MCBEE5 RAMSAUR (JOHN "LITTLE JOHN"4 RAMSOUR, JR., JOHN >>>"CAPT. GENTLEMAN JOHN"3, JACOB2, JOHANN DEITRICH [RAMSHOWER/RAMSEUR]1) >>>was born 18 Feb 18211,2, and died 15 May 1900 in Possibly Asheville, >>>Buncombe County, NC3. He married NANCY KATHERINE "NANNIE" RAMSOUR 15 >>>May 1850 in Lincoln County, NC3,4, daughter of SOLOMON RAMSAUR and >>>ELIZABETH WARLICK. She was born 19 Oct 1826 in NC5,6, and died 23 Mar >>>1915 in Possibly Asheville, Buncombe County, NC7,8. (I haven't had a >>>chance to check the cemetery or census books in Buncombe County yet.) >>> >>>More About NANCY KATHERINE "NANNIE" RAMSOUR: >>>Residence: Resided at Kings Mountain Station, Cleveland County, NC9 >>>Residence #2: 1905, Residing in Asheville, Buncombe County, NC10 >>> >>>More About VARDREY RAMSAUR and NANCY RAMSOUR: >>>Marriage: 15 May 1850, Lincoln County, NC11,12 >>> >>>Child of VARDREY RAMSAUR and NANCY RAMSOUR is: >>> i. ARTHUR6 RAMSAUR, b. 15 Jan 1858, >>> >>Catawba >> >> >>>County, NC13,14; d. 19 May 1913, Central, SC15,16; m. ANNIE ELIZABETH >>>GASSAWAY, 20 May 188417; b. 5 Feb 1860, Central, SC17; d. 6 Apr >>> >>194517. >> >> >>>More About ARTHUR RAMSAUR and ANNIE GASSAWAY: >>>Marriage: 20 May 188417 >>> >>>Endnotes >>> >>>1. Eaker, Lorena Shell, "The Shoe Cobbler's Kin," Vol. 2, SCK >>>Publications, P.O. Box 2125, Church Hill, TN 37632 (Genealogy of the >>>Peter (Ecker) Eaker, S, p 257. >>>2. "1870 Census, Catawba County, NC," The Catawba County Genealogical >>>Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1991, p 68. >>>3. Eaker, Lorena Shell, "The Shoe Cobbler's Kin," Vol. 2, SCK >>>Publications, P.O. Box 2125, Church Hill, TN 37632 (Genealogy of the >>>Peter (Ecker) Eaker, S, p 257. >>>4. "Marriage Bonds of Tryon & Lincoln Counties, North Carolina," >>>Abstracted and Indexed by Curtis Bynum, (Catawba County Historical >>>Association, Hickory, NC, 1929), p 191. >>>5. Eaker, Lorena Shell, "The Shoe Cobbler's Kin," Vol. 2, SCK >>>Publications, P.O. Box 2125, Church Hill, TN 37632 (Genealogy of the >>>Peter (Ecker) Eaker, S, p 257. >>>6. "1870 Census, Catawba County, NC," The Catawba County Genealogical >>>Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1991, p 68. >>>7. "Catawba Cousins," Vol. 12, No. 3, Dec 1997, The Catawba County >>>Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, p 12. >>>8. Eaker, Lorena Shell, "The Shoe Cobbler's Kin," Vol. 2, SCK >>>Publications, P.O. Box 2125, Church Hill, TN 37632 (Genealogy of the >>>Peter (Ecker) Eaker, S, p 257. >>>9. "Catawba Cousins," Vol. 10, No. 4, Mar 1996, The Catawba County >>>Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, p 1. >>>10. "Catawba Cousins," Vol. 12, No. 3, Dec 1997, The Catawba County >>>Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, p 12, Catawba >>>County News, 22 March 1905. >>> >>>Ann Propst, Brevard, NC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== >==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== >Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC >For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm >Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page >