According to the Ancestry database "NC deaths 1993-1996", Sue Beatrice Vermillion Dellinger died 6/13/1993. The info in that database is taken off the actual death certificates. Her father's last name was listed as Vermillion. Birthdate was listed as 10/18/1951 in TN. Place of death was in Lincoln County, NC, at home, and the case was listed as a medical examiner case, which means the circumstances of the death were suspicious or warranted investigation. I would suggest that you try to contact a newspaper in Lincolnton Gastonia, or Shelby, NC, and ask if they can look for articles on or after June 13, 1993 pertaining to this lady. They can also look up the obituary for you. I would suspect there might be a charge for this. The Shelby Paper is the Star [website http://www.shelbystar.com/]. The Lincolnton paper is the Lincoln Times-News[website http://www.lincolntimesnews.com/]. The Gastonia paper is the Gaston Gazette [website http://www.gastongazette.com/]. Good luck to you on finding out more about your aunt. Lynn Wesson Hillsborough, NC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Apr 6, 2005 10:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCLINCOLN] need some help please!!!! This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: dellinger, vermillion Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/2429 Message Board Post: i'm trying to find info on my aunt. i never met her but my mom said that i absolutley worshipped her when i was little. her name was suzie vermillion. when i pulled up the death notices in ancestry.com it lists a sue beatrice dellinger vermillion from tennessee dying in lincoln, nc in 1993. the info that a cousin gave me had her name as beatrice sue instead of sue beatrice. all that i know is that her husband shot her to death. i'm not trying to bring up anything bad, i just would like to know what happened. i was also told she had 2 children named michael and candace but i don't know what their last name is b/c they were not from her husband. if anyone knows anything or remembers anything about this please contact me. thank you for anything you can help with. ==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== ==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

The Irish website I sent on my earlier email apparently is closed. I find two more that I actually checked this morning and are still in service. > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > www.ffhs.org.uk > > > > >

Cindy, I couldn't get the one for Ireland to work either. Shirley McCoy [email protected]

Don't have parents or siblings, but I do have a Serena Catherine Williams born 1856 in Tx to unk parents in Tn. She was my greatgrandmother, married a D B Doc Fortune in Tx. They came back to NC where she died 1900 buried High Shoals Cemetary I belive in Rutherford County, maybe Cleveland ( don't have info right in front of me) thanks, Melanie Malone

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: dellinger, vermillion Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/2429 Message Board Post: i'm trying to find info on my aunt. i never met her but my mom said that i absolutley worshipped her when i was little. her name was suzie vermillion. when i pulled up the death notices in ancestry.com it lists a sue beatrice dellinger vermillion from tennessee dying in lincoln, nc in 1993. the info that a cousin gave me had her name as beatrice sue instead of sue beatrice. all that i know is that her husband shot her to death. i'm not trying to bring up anything bad, i just would like to know what happened. i was also told she had 2 children named michael and candace but i don't know what their last name is b/c they were not from her husband. if anyone knows anything or remembers anything about this please contact me. thank you for anything you can help with.

Cindy, Thank you for giving us the names of the various web sites; however, I cannot get this one to work: image.vtls.com Virginia Would you mind checking this address again for us? Carol -------Original Message------- From: Cindy Date: 04/05/05 08:55:46 To: [email protected] Subject: More Websites to Try Good morning, I have decided there are by far too many interesting websites in this book not to share them all. I will not do all the groups but I will let you know that there is a group listing of websites and if you want them let me know. Adoption listings Beginners listings www.dearmyrtle.com www.daddezio.com/cemetery/index.html www.census.gov freebmd.rootsweb.com www.headstonehunter.com www.glorecords.blm.gov land records for western states DNA listings www.nia.gov.au/oz/genelist.html military service records www.afrigeneas.com African American history ccharity.com -African American history www.tartans.com Scottish clans www.feefhs.org East European history www.jewishgen.org vsalgs.org/stnemgenealogy/ Texas and New Mexico history members.aol.com/shhar Spanish home site for historical and ancestral research sunsite.utk.edu/civilwar www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/index.cfm www.skyhook.co.uk/civwar/ military history on the UK from 1638 to 1660 historicaltextarchive.com articles and documents on various topics in history www.dar.org www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html British Royal family www.historyseek.com library.thinkquest.org/20619 project about immigration to the US www.mayflowerhistory.com www.army.mil/cmh-pg/moh1.htm Medal of Honor Citations www.migrations.org theoldentimes.com/newsletterpage.html historical newspapers online www.sar.org Sons of the Rev. www.cwc.lsu.edu Civil War www.acpl.lib.in.us/genealogy This is one of the leading library genealogy depts in the US www.elmerslibrary.com Florida image.vtls.com Virginia www.oplin.lib.oh.us Ohio www.idaho.edu/special-collections/Other.Repositories.html This site lists over 2,500 other sites that hold manuscripts, archives, rare books, photographs and primary sources www.sc.edu/library/socar/books.html South Carolina www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/genfirst.html this site has resources including microfilm of all state census up to 1910. Map lisings www.chin.gc.ca Canda www.european-archival.net/archives/ www.genuki.org.uk www.local.ie/genealogy Ireland www.geneanet.org France Have Fun! Cindy

Good morning, I have decided there are by far too many interesting websites in this book not to share them all. I will not do all the groups but I will let you know that there is a group listing of websites and if you want them let me know. Adoption listings Beginners listings www.dearmyrtle.com www.daddezio.com/cemetery/index.html www.census.gov freebmd.rootsweb.com www.headstonehunter.com www.glorecords.blm.gov land records for western states DNA listings www.nia.gov.au/oz/genelist.html military service records www.afrigeneas.com African American history ccharity.com -African American history www.tartans.com Scottish clans www.feefhs.org East European history www.jewishgen.org vsalgs.org/stnemgenealogy/ Texas and New Mexico history members.aol.com/shhar Spanish home site for historical and ancestral research sunsite.utk.edu/civilwar www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/index.cfm www.skyhook.co.uk/civwar/ military history on the UK from 1638 to 1660 historicaltextarchive.com articles and documents on various topics in history www.dar.org www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html British Royal family www.historyseek.com library.thinkquest.org/20619 project about immigration to the US www.mayflowerhistory.com www.army.mil/cmh-pg/moh1.htm Medal of Honor Citations www.migrations.org theoldentimes.com/newsletterpage.html historical newspapers online www.sar.org Sons of the Rev. www.cwc.lsu.edu Civil War www.acpl.lib.in.us/genealogy This is one of the leading library genealogy depts in the US www.elmerslibrary.com Florida image.vtls.com Virginia www.oplin.lib.oh.us Ohio www.idaho.edu/special-collections/Other.Repositories.html This site lists over 2,500 other sites that hold manuscripts, archives, rare books, photographs and primary sources www.sc.edu/library/socar/books.html South Carolina www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/genfirst.html this site has resources including microfilm of all state census up to 1910. Map lisings www.chin.gc.ca Canda www.european-archival.net/archives/ www.genuki.org.uk www.local.ie/genealogy Ireland www.geneanet.org France Have Fun! Cindy

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In my quest to find resources to find family members I finally opened my book Genealogy Online and it offered several great websites that I have never heard of and I wanted to share with you all. This one is great source for where to look for info and it answers questions about how to look as well. http://genealogyspot.com/ This is a pay site but it was not one I have heard of www.everton.com Here are others I have not tried and if you do and it is a good site please let others know www.genealogylinks.net www.genealogypages.com Civil War site: misc.traveler.com/genealogy/ www.surnames.com www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ There are several others for specific countries, and some states (Alabama, Kentucky) if you need them let me know. I hope this helps. Cindy

Sorry but you cannot assume that The spelling of a name in a census is a typo, since they were hand written. You can assume that the census taker spelled the name they way he presumed it to be, which was often the case, you take what you get and hope for the best. You can never presume that the way you spell a name is the way your ancestor spelled it, Sometimes it depended upon the ability of that ancestor to even write. A surprising number of our ancestors signed everything with an X. If you find the will of your James you will know if he could write, since he will have signed it. You might follow his land to see where he got it, he may well have inherited from his parents or an uncle and this will give you a lead. Or after his father died he may have sold what he inherited taken the money and moved to another county, Since Grassy Creek is in Ashe county I am not sure why you are looking in Lincoln. Mitchell is in the north west part of NC and a bit removed from Lincoln it was not created until 1861 so I am surprised you were able to find him there in 1860 since there was no Mitchell then. What census were you looking at when you found the family in 1860? There could be some wills you could look at, a will index usually has a list of those who were named in the will, so an examination of Lincoln Co. will indexes could lead you in the right direction. He might even be mentioned in the will of his wife's parents You might also try to determine what religion he was and look for church records of baptisms, if you have a birth place Census records are only a beginning, there are many more records for you to examine. Of course you may already know all of this in any case good luck. Agnes C. On 4/3/05 11:00 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Cindy <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 11:34:19 -0400 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: 1830 census > > Hi, > > In the 1860 census I found James in Mitchell Co. age 41 with his wife Nancy > and several children and his name was > spelled Jonson- I am assuming this is a typo. Of course, from this census I > can not determine who his father was. > > Thanks for any help you can be. > > Cindy

Cindy, Only heads of households were listed in censuses until 1850 when all household occupants were enumerated. However, if you know your James Andrew Johnson was born ~1819, you can look in censuses in 1820, 1830, and 1840 for males in the household of the correct age. Lynn Hillsborough, NC -----Original Message----- From: Cindy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCLINCOLN] 1830 census Hi, I am trying to locate information on an ancestor James Andrew Johnson b. 1819 in Grassy Creek. He married Nancy Jane Buchanan. One source listed his father as Andrew Johnson. I have the 1810 and 1820 census records but they only list the head of household so there is no finding a child in the 1820 census. Does anyone have access to a 1830 or 1840 census? In the 1860 census I found James in Mitchell Co. age 41 with his wife Nancy and several children and his name was spelled Jonson- I am assuming this is a typo. Of course, from this census I can not determine who his father was. Thanks for any help you can be. Cindy ==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== ==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

Hi, I am trying to locate information on an ancestor James Andrew Johnson b. 1819 in Grassy Creek. He married Nancy Jane Buchanan. One source listed his father as Andrew Johnson. I have the 1810 and 1820 census records but they only list the head of household so there is no finding a child in the 1820 census. Does anyone have access to a 1830 or 1840 census? In the 1860 census I found James in Mitchell Co. age 41 with his wife Nancy and several children and his name was spelled Jonson- I am assuming this is a typo. Of course, from this census I can not determine who his father was. Thanks for any help you can be. Cindy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCarter, Carter, McArther Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iVB.2ACI/2428 Message Board Post: Looking for info on McCarter (Carter) family located in the upper regiment of Lincoln County at the time of the 1830-1840 census. Trying to make a connection with our family who ?relocated to Edgecombe, Greene, Lenoir & Johnston. He is possibly the father of Elisha McCarter (Carter, McArther) who married Nancy ? and later Priscilla ?. Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iVB.2ACI/2427 Message Board Post: my boyfriend, ellis J. Stevens is related to the mulls. he said that when they came off the reservation they changed their names to mulls so they would not have to go back. any info would be greatly appreciated. sandi jeffares

Would someone who has knowledge of Joshua ROBERTS parents and his siblings please contact Margaret Driskill [email protected] who is trying to become a DAR member under his name. Thank You should you be willing to assist this person. Ray

Seeking parents and siblings of these two individuals... David WILLIAMS b.1792 NC.. (believed Guilford Co. ) Mary SLINKARD b. c 1794 -1800 NC They married abt March 1814 in Smith Co., TN.... Any help appreciated.... Skip Williams

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iVB.2ACI/1306.1 Message Board Post: What evidence do you have that Christopher Porter ever lived in Lincoln Co., NC? He is found in the county records of Orange, Caswell, and Buncombe, NC. There are many Porters in Lincoln Co., but I've never ran across the name Christopher. I think you are right about the identity of the sons except for one. You have the wrong Robert Porter. The one you want died in Benton Co., AL c1840. On the tombstone of Robert Scott Porter in Parker Co., TX, is the inscrption son of William Porter.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Langdon, Alston, Severn, Ammen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iVB.2ACI/2426 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on the location of the Methodist Church Cemetery in Lincolnton, NC and also any contact to find out if some of my ancestors are buried there. It is listed on the National Register of Historic Places as the Methodist Church Cemetery although I have seen references to it as the Old Methodist Church Cemetery or Graveyard. My ggggrandfather William Langdon (1814-59) and his second wife Margaret Lander Langdon (1822-92) are supposedly buried there. I would like to find if they are actually buried there. Her brother, William Lander (1817-68) is buried there according to the Political Graveyard website. Thanks for any information anyone can provide.

Joseph's email no longer works so I am posting this here: ------------------------ From: Joseph F. Gantt [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 5:41 PM Jeff, I suspect (without sufficient foundation at this point) that the Ursula "Poundland" (b. 1805) who married Barnett Putman/Putnam (a son of Keziah Robert's sister, Nancy) may have actually been a daughter of John B. Fondren who lived in the same neighborhood in Rutherford Co. (now Cleveland Co.), NC during the early 1800's. This suspicion is based upon the fact that the name "Poundland" was originally given by Betty Jo Carpenter of Rutherfordton, NC (the principle researcher on Barnett & Ursula) who now cannot recall exactly where she got the name and says that it should be considered as a weak source. Since I can find no information on the name Poundland anywhere, I suspect that Ursula probably came from a nearby family with a similar sounding name. John B. Fondren (Fondlen, Fondlin, etc.) is the only one in the region that fits this description and it turns out he lived in very close proximity to Putnam, Roberts, and several other related families (like the Sanders, Weavers, Spurlings, Barnetts, Bridges and Loves). According to my notes from 1830 Census of Rutherford County, North Carolina, abstracted by Miles S. Philbeck, Jr., published by the Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County, Inc., PO Box 938, Forest City, NC 28043, 1982, the household of John Fondlen (presumably John B. Fondren) is shown as follows: 2 males (5-9 yrs): probably Morris R. and Nimrod L. 1 male (10-14 yrs): probably John R. 2 males (15-19 yrs): probably William Butler and Whitmon C. H. 1 male (50-59 yrs): John B. Fondren (Fondlin) 1 female (5-9 yrs): probably Miranda 1 female (10-14): probably Amaretta 4 females (15-19): probably Unity, Jane and two unknown daughters (or girls) 1 female (40-49): Keziah (Roberts) This shows John B. & Keziah with a total 11 children in 1830. Since John B. was probably in his early 50's and Keziah was in her late 40's, it is conceivable that they may have had at least one child not shown in the 1830 census because the child may have already married and left home (Barnett & Ursula were married about 1826). Unfortunately, I don't know what the 1820 and earlier censuses show for this family. Have you exhaustively researched the extant public records for this family in Rutherford Co. (later Cleveland Co.)? Do you know of any other researchers who may be able to shed some light on this subject? Thank you very much for your consideration. Joseph Gantt Asheville, NC ------------------------- Hello Joe... Yes, I am a habitual pack rat. Consider this a five and a half year delayed follow-up. I wanted to let you know I may have an answer to this riddle. Or worst case scenario, present you with another riddle within a riddle. Check 1830 Lincoln census page 159 (neighbor of Willis Putnam) an interesting head of household by the name of Creade Beauland: 1 male 10-15; 1 male 15-20; 1 female 40-50. This portion of the Lincoln census listed all of the inhabitants of the SW corner of Lincoln where Township 3 and 4 of Cleveland County is located today. Now for some voluntary speculation. I believe Creade was a widow and I believe she was a widow of a Mr. Bolin/Bollin/Bowland. I tend to group these names together and I am now prepared to include Bowling and even your Poundland. If you look a little deeper there is an Enoch Bowling also on the 1830 LCC and he was a newlywed. I believe Enoch was Creade's son. I also don't believe her name was Creade. Perhaps Creese or even short for Lucretia which I have seen spelled several ways. No need to speculate on this further and I'll continue to call her Creade for now. Anyway I am now prepared to speculate that Barnett Putnam was married to Ursula Bolin, sister of Enoch and daughter of the head-of-household listed as neighbor to Willis Putnam who was Barnett's brother. Jeff Martin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/1487.4 Message Board Post: Hello Michael There was an Absolom Taylor in Rowan Co, NC 1790 census, he died mid 1790's. His wife was Nicey Ann or Unisy she appears to be of Native American descent. In the 1800 census she is listed as below with a son 10-15 Series: M32 Roll: 33 Page: 339 TAYLOR NICEY ANN NC ROWAN NO TWP LISTED 1800 - 1 - - -|| 1 - - 1 1 Series: M637 Roll: 7 Page: 334 TAYLOR, ABSALOM NC ROWAN SALISBURY DIST 1790 1 2 3 0 3 If this is the parents of your Absalom Taylor please let me know David