In a message dated 11/5/2004 4:07:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Christine, the Southern Historical Collection is online with an excellent index and search engine. Martha Thanks Martha , Ron sent some links that might be helpful to others also , that was nice of him :-) this could be helpful for anyone wanting to access the Southern Historical Collection, it's a search page for their manuscripts http://www.lib.unc.edu/mss/inv.html for instance, Grimes Family papers inventory is at http://www.lib.unc.edu/mss/inv/g/Grimes_Family ron Christine Grimes Thacker Genealogy: Collecting dead relatives and sometimes a live cousin! Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.