That's a very good point--slaves were never named in the census, even on the slave schedules. Most people forget that in some communities as many as 10% of their "black" (which might include mulatto) population was free. Sue On Mar 30, 2004, at 1:21 AM, Rebecca Hill wrote: > Tammi, > > I've seen the messages you have been posting recently, as well as the > other > messages that have been posted in return by others. I don't have any > Lane > connections myself, so I can't add any data to what you are finding > about > John Lane and his ancestors. But, I wondered how you concluded that > "Dannel" and the others you named in the John Lane household of 1860 > were > "slaves." > > As I am interested in anything going on in Greene County during the > 1700 and > 1800's, I took a look at the 1860 Greene County Census, Bull Head > District, > Page No. 4. What I saw indicates that Dannel Artes, a free black male > aged > 40 and a ditcher by trade, lived alone in Household #27. Back in the > Household #26, the John Lane household, in addition to the Lane family > members, there were three free black males aged 17, 13, and 5 as well > as > three black females aged 12, 8, and 7, all with the last name Artes. > In the > previous Household #25, the Silas Bryant household, in addition to the > Bryant family members, there were two mulatto males aged 16 and 14 > with the > last name Artes. > > None of these Artes, according to the 1860 census, were slaves in > 1860. Had > they not been free blacks or mulattoes, they would not have been > listed in > that census. So, the "Dannel" who went off to the Civil War with > Christopher Lane was apparently black, but not a slave. (An alternate > spelling of the name Artes is probably Artis. There are quite a few > people > with the last name of Artis in the area today.) > > Rebecca > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alilia" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:53 PM > Subject: [NCLENOIR] Re: Lane-Dawson-Bright new info > > >> Hi John, >> >> Great to hear from you! You seem to have a lot of >> info on Lanes :) >> I've only just found my gg-grandfather JOHN LANE's >> name. At least am about 95% sure its him. Before this, >> I didnt even know my gg-grandfather's name as even >> being John, since no one in the family knew. So i've >> been searching for months and months(off and on, I get >> discouraged easily *laugh*) >> The "DANNEL" i mentioned was a slave in JOHN LANE's >> household. Dannel's father had the same name below him >> on the 1860 census though he lived in another >> household(or alone) I guess was his father, he had >> same name and was older, in his 40's i believe and >> lists his race as black also. So maybe they were named >> after the DANNEL's if he worked for them earlier. I >> know they took names of the ones who had them >> sometimes. Two of the slave children in JOHN LANE's >> household were named Juley and Washington. Juley or >> Julia was also JOHN LANE's daughter's name, and >> Washington was his son's (my g-grandfather) George's >> middle name. >> I have a list of names i've been looking at trying >> to find John's father. There was Levin Lane i had >> written down, from Pender or New Hanover counties, but >> he wasnt in the right area. Also a will for GEORGE >> LANE 1808 lists him having a son James..sometimes >> James and John were used interchangeably...though if >> John was born about 1802-1806, his father would be >> pretty old then i guess...unless he died >> young...anyway, thanks for information...anything is >> helpful, since i have NO idea at this point who JOHN >> LANE's parents were...i only have John's wife's name >> as MARY, no maiden name..i looked some at JOEL LANE of >> Raleigh, but seems his family was pretty well known >> and seems there would be more information documented >> if JOHN was his descendent. Though my grandfather used >> to drive his wagon to Raleigh but no one in family >> knows why or if he visited anyone there. So maybe >> relatives there, i dont know. >> >> Thanks! >> Tammi >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >> http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html >> >> >> > >