Jim has sent me a good deal of information on the Needham Garner family who moved from Greene to that area of Duplin adj to Lenoir. In the Duplin Sutton deeds posted last week, there are several mentions of the Garner family in the deeds. William Garner (b. 1793) was the son of Wiley Garner (son of Needham Garner) Married Elizabeth Sutton in Duplin or Lenoir Co. Children: Winifred W. b. abt. 1820 Simeon b. 11/15/1820 Wiley Sutton b. 2/8/1824 Ann b. abt. 1825 John P. b. abt. 1825 Narcissa b 1827 Avy b. 1835 Josiah b. 1836 Elizabeth died in Coffee Co, Ala. and William died in Dale Co., AL My assumption was that this Elizabeth could have been the daughter of Simon Sutton who lived in the same area as the Garner family but nothing supports it. THe name of her son was Simeon not Simon and the spelling of Simeon indicates it was a Garner name. IF the widow of Simon was Mary who appears to have had a son Thomas, daughter Penelope who married Curtis Dail as his 3rd wife, and Phereby who married Luke Herring, then the census and the estate records do not support Elizabeth being a daughter. However, the census is inconsistent with the age of Mary and it indicates two additional sons that I can't find. The Suttons of Duplin were within walking distance of the Suttons of LEnoir. Elizabeth was not the daughter of Benjamin (Oxley) or his brother, William. John Jr is a strong possibility. Does anyone else have any information on an Elizabeth bc 1795? Martha