THink this is getting complicated enough to send it to the list because know we have one good Darden researcher on the Greene list. This comes under the heading of - we got off on a tangent. Was entering some of my information on the Fields family of Lenoir and in entering the information on the branch that married into the Pope family wanted to try and do some linking. Already had a fair amount of information on John and Mary Pope of Greene Co. At least I assume it is the same John and Mary Pope since there were Popes in Pitt Co also. Col John Hardee of Pitt had a granddaughter, Mary Pope, who was probably the child of Abraham and Susannah Hardee Enloe. IS THIS MARY THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF COL JOHN HARDEE OF PITT? The few names we have don't fit the usual Hardee names. Redding W. Pope of Lenoir Co married Olivia Fields in 1868. The Fields and Pope family Bibles state Redding was the son of Redding and Nancy Pope. I have Redding Pope b 1775 md to Sarah Carr daughter of Titus Carr. They had three children, Henry, Edward and Robert who was b in 1816. No further information. This Redding Pope was the son of John and Mary Pope. John and Mary Pope also had children that we know of - Sarah b 1777 who md James Albritton Nancy Ann b 1787 who married Robert Harper John b 1779 who md Nancy How Speight and then Ann Harper One would assume that Redding Pope who md Nancy fits in this family somewhere but where. Did Nancy die and Redding remarry a sweet young thing or are we missing a generation. In the BIble that Chris has with the information on Redding and Sarah Carr Pope is the entry Nancy W. Edwards departed this life in the year of our Lord January the 24th 1837" Nancy W. Edwards was Nancy W. Darden, daughter of Abraham Darden and she married Henry Edwards. After her death, Henry married Lucretia Uzzell. Chris wants to know who the parents of Henry Edwards were. This Bible ended up in the home of Lucretia and Henry Edwards - WHY? Why was the entry in the Bible for Nancy E. Darden Edwards and what connection was there between her and the Pope family - where the name Nancy is found. ANyone have any clues? Martha and Chris >From: "Chris Croom" <cwcroom@nc.rr.com> >To: "Martha Marble" <mmarble@erols.com> >Subject: Re: Pope >Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:27:47 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > >Martha, > >Is this William Darden, Sr., William A. Darden (1804-1877) who wit. >Lucretia's 1851 Deed to the "John Holmes Tract",wit. the 1858 Deed: Wm. R. >Edwards to M. Heath, was the Justice of the Peace, sold to James M. Hines >another portion of "The John Holmes Tract" in 1846 which was joined by >Smitha Edwards, and lived near Speight's Bridge in the Hughes District >according to the 1850 census and is buried near Tabernacle Church? > >Winnifred S. Swinson: mentioned in Lucretia's 1855 Deed for "The Epps >Place"; " ...portion of land set apart by committee to Winifred S. Swinson , >from her fathers' land..., to Lucretia Edwards " sold to Lucretia Edwards by >Abraham D. Swinson. >Is this Winifred the Winnifred S. Darden who married Henry Swinson? If so, >then her father would be Abraham Darden (1781-1803) and her brother was >William A. Darden (1804-1877) and her sister was Nancy W. Darden who married >Henry Edwards. > >I'm trying to see if there is another connection between the Edwards and the >Dardens besides the Nancy W. (Darden or Pope) Edwards one. William A. Darden >(1804-1877) married Catherine Edwards daughter or Theo. and Elizabeth >Sheppard. Thomas Edwards (ca 1725-ca 1780) was Theo. father, so William A. >Darden probably inherited some of the original Thomas Edwards land grants. > >Lucretia Edwards husband (Henry?) died prior to the 1850 census. Their >children were born from 1843 to 1847. Their only son was named William >Henry. >I noticed that Ruth sent me the children of Theo. and Elizabeth which >includes a Thomas W. Edwards, b. 1809, a Theo. Thomas Edwards, b. 1813, and >a James Madison Edwards, b. 1817. Could one of these have married Lucretia? >Also, Thomas had a son Henry, b. ca. 1755 and married Nov. 7, 1787. This >Henry had a son named Henry, b.?. > >The Bible has on the left starting at the top: " Sarah Carr daughter of >Titus Carr and Winifred his wife was born the 7th day of October in the year >of Our Lord 1780 " down "Reading Pope son of John Pope and Mary his wife was >born May 29th in the year of Our Lord 1775" down " Robert Pope son of >Reading and Sally his wife was born the 20th day of Feb A.D. 1816 " back to >top across from Sarah Carr " Nancy W. Edwards departed this life in the year >of our Lord January the 24th 1837" end. > >Thanks for the info. Please forward to Ruth. > >Chris Croom > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Martha Marble" <mmarble@erols.com> >To: "Chris Croom" <cwcroom@nc.rr.com>; <ruthbf@erols.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:23 AM >Subject: Re: Pope > > >> Chris, >> >> Nancy W. Darden was born 6 March 1816 and she married Henry W. Edwards in >> 1831 and she died 24 January 1837. I think her father was Abraham Darden >> son of old William. The Darden information has no reference to another >> marriage for her. I don't know where Cliff Darden got the marriage dates >> but she was only 15 when she married Edwards - oh, they came from the >> Darden Bible. THere are no dates for Henry Edwards but didn't he die much >> later? THe Bible gives Sarah Eliza Frances Edwards daughter of Henry >> Edwards and Nancy his wife born October the 7th 1832. >> >> Old William had a daughter Sarah, but she married Joel Moye and is my >> ancestor. I see no reason for Nancy W. Darden Edwards being in this Bible >> unless everyone has missed something. >> >> William Darden Sr, brother in law to Titus Carr, also had a daughter Nancy >> by his 3rd wife but she is not in the BIble. According to information I >> have from Cliff Darden of Wilson, this Nancy married John H. Dixon. and >> their estate was divided in 1844 in Greene Co. >> >> Martha >> >> >> At 10:38 AM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote: >> >Martha, >> > >> >The bible does not indicate that Nancy W. Edwards is the daughter of >Reading >> >and Sarah Carr Pope. Your explaination is possible as to why Nancy is in >the >> >bible. Maybe she brought the bible with her from her Pope or Darden >> >homeplace after she married the Edwards. Why else would there be a Pope >> >bible in the Lucretia Uzzell Edwards homeplace? >> >I don't have anything else on Mary Pope. If you find anyhting in the >census >> >on Nancy W. Edwards (d. jan. 24, 1837) let me know. >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Chris >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Martha Marble" <mmarble@erols.com> >> >To: "Chris Croom" <cwcroom@nc.rr.com>; <ruthbf@erols.com> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 8:14 AM >> >Subject: Re: Pope >> > >> > >> >> At 10:10 PM 6/8/01 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >Martha, >> >> > >> >> >I have wondered what the Pope connection was, and the reason why the >> >Popes >> >> >are in the bible. I may have been on the wrong track to think that; >Nancy >> >W. >> >> >Edwards (died Jan. 20 1837) was Nancy W. Darden who Henry W. >Edwards >> >was >> >> >married to on Dec. 20, 1831, and after she died Henry then married >> >Lucretia >> >> >Uzzell. >> >> >> >> RUth and I think there are more children than have been identified. It >> >gets >> >> real confusing because Titus and his nephew, Lawrence Carr, my >ancestor, >> >> used the same names. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >I have: Winnie and Titus Carr (b. 1743) married in 1770 and had >> >children: >> >> > 1. Charles Carr d. 2-28-1816 age 43 >> >> > 2. Elias Carr married in 1797 Celia Johnson Hines, widow >> >> > 3. Robert Stevenson died pror to 1803 >> >> > 4. Sarah Carr b. Oct. 7, 1780 who married Reading Pope , >son >> >of >> >> >John and Mary Pope , Reading born May 29,1775 >> >> > 1. Son: Robert Pope, b. Feb. 20, 1816 >> >> > 2. Dau.: Nancy W. Pope d. Jan. 24. 1837 >and >> >> >married an Edwards >> >> >I not sure if Nancy was a Pope or a Darden before she married an >Edwards. >> >> >Could she be Nancy wife of Redding and mother of Redding W. Pope born >in >> >> >1835.? >> >> >> >> Could be. Does the Bible state that Nancy was the daughter of Redding >and >> >> Sarah Carr Pope or is that an assumption everyone has made. It is >entirely >> >> possible that Sarah died and Redding remarried Nancy Darden, then he >died >> >> and she remarried the Edwards. Not sure I am even following myself on >> >this. >> >> Will have to check the census. >> >> >> >> Then there is the question of who Mary Pope was. It is possible she was >> >the >> >> daughter of Abraham and Susannah Hardee Enloe and thus a granddaughter >of >> >> Col John Hardee of Pitt who named a granddaughter, Mary Pope, in his >will. >> >> I have an early Pope line and don't have enough information to know if >it >> >> was this John and Mary but I think it was. Unless there were two John >and >> >> Mary Pope's of the same age. >> >> >> >> Martha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 5. Titus Carr >> >> >That's all I have. >> >> > >> >> >Chris Croom (cwcroom@nc.rr.com) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >> >From: "Martha Marble" <mmarble@erols.com> >> >> >To: <cwcroom@nc.rr.com> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:57 PM >> >> >Subject: Pope >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:53:41 -0400 >> >> >> >To: swcroom@nc.rr.com >> >> >> >From: Martha Marble <mmarble@erols.com> >> >> >> >Subject: Pope >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Chris, >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I am entering some of my Fields information which runs into the >Pope >> >> >> family. I have a Redding W. Pope b 1835 son of Redding and Nancy >Pope. >> >> >> THere is no indication in the Bible your mother had that Redding and >> >Sarah >> >> >> Carr Pope had a son Redding, but there has to be a connection. Do >you >> >have >> >> >> any of their grandchildren or do you know if Redding married a 2nd >> >time. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Martha >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >